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i think that's a silly question. he's a qb and he has all the qualities/intangibles of a qb other than being a few inches too short. wilson can makes things happen with his feet which helps his case in being so short and if he's given an opportunity, he could make something of it. will he ever get the opportunity though?
i agree with OP... if he was 6'2", he'd be in discussion for the top 15-20.
And if my grandmother had wheels she'd be a wagon.4th rounder is the absolute earliest. More likely 5th. Think Troy Smith.
I was thinking Seneca Wallace, but Smith works too.
Doesn't matter, Drew Brees is amazing and he gets balls batted down at the line. Plus DL look to do that more often in the NFL.If he's football smart, he could transition to safety. Solid size and a 4.5 guy, plus he has an insight into what offenses are trying to do.i think that's a silly question. he's a qb and he has all the qualities/intangibles of a qb other than being a few inches too short. wilson can makes things happen with his feet which helps his case in being so short and if he's given an opportunity, he could make something of it. will he ever get the opportunity though?
ETA: i saw a tweet from a scout stating wilson only had 3 passes batted down all season. that's him throwing over the mammoth line at wisco. he can find lanes to throw through with his feet. i saw another scout saying that his throwing height is about 6'1" in comparison to where the ball comes out.
Would you love to see the Seahawks choose Russel Wilson over Weeden, Cousins and Foles?
Yes, I don't like Weeden, Cousins or Foles.... Cousins is the only one I would actually be ok with regardless of how late they got him. Niether Foles nor Weeden is a good fit for their system.Actually I think Wilson is the 3rd best QB in the draft this year. The only place he fails to not exceed NFL standards is height. Look what he did on the field.
They're playing football, not giving speeches at a Toastmasters meeting.I don't think any of us were talking about eloquence.
"Aside from not living up to one of the most important factors for an NFL quarterback..."
and yet another
I agree. He took a Wisconsin team that is normally run first and added a really good passing dimension. I would like to see him go to Denver as I think he would look great running the offense that Tebow ran last year. He can throw better than Tebow and has some of his elusiveness and smarts. He throws on the run well too. But I do agree with the others that I will be surprised to see him go before the fourth round because the NFL tends to see QBs like him and assume they are too short or because they are athletic assume they can't play QB.
Have you ever heard Tyrod Taylor speak?
Drew Brees laughs at you. That one inch he has on Wilson must be the difference maker.
Of course I have. He's not a bumbling idiot, far from it. But Wilson possesses rare eloquence. The kind that shocks you when you hear it.
"Oh there they go. There they go! Every time I start talkin 'bout boxing, a white man got to pull Rocky Marciano out their ###. That's their one, that's their one! Rocky Marciano. Rocky Marciano. Let me tell you something once and for all. Rocky Marciano was good, but compared to Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano ain't ####. "
It's a huge difference since Brees is barely tall enough to begin with...and is absolutely the one exception to the rule that we've seen in just about ever.
Are you the king of Zamoonda?
Give a hand to my band, Sexual Chocolate!
Maybe he can convince D-linemen not to bat his balls down at the line of scrimmage.
"Joe Louis was 137 years old when he fought Rocky Marciano." One of my favorite exchanges in movie history.Back on topic, I'm a believer in Wilson and I'm hoping that with the NFL changing a bit in terms of the QB position, he'll get a shot. But is he willing to sit around and wait for an opportunity for a few years when it seems like he has a chance to pursue baseball career?Give a hand to my band, Sexual Chocolate!
Agree that Buffalo would be the best spot for him. If Gailey made Thigpen look good, then he could really develop a dynamic offense with Wilson. And he could sit for a year or two behind Fitzpatrick.
Wilson is a much better QB than Tebow, but if he literally ran the same offense as Tebow did last year in Denver, I doubt Wilson would survive the pounding. He is strong and tough, but not many QBs are built to take the punishment of constant running up the middle.
The problem is that he is a much better QB than baseball player. And as good as he has been at football, he never dedicated himself to it year round, since he was always playing baseball too.Frankly, I don't think he has much of a future in baseball. In 2009, his last year at State, he batted .236. In two minor league seasons in single A, he has a composite batting average of just .229. If he dedicated himself to baseball, it's conceivable he could improve a lot, but is he major league material? IMO that is pretty doubtful.Meanwhile, he should be good enough to make an NFL roster next season. IMO that makes it an easy decision for him to choose football.'benson_will_lead_the_way said:
He's a lifelong backup QB, but good point. I didn't know his baseball stats.
Good article. I have watched 90% of Wilson's college football games and I've followed his career closely. I agree with a lot of the comments here: he has outstanding character, he is a strong leader, he is very intelligent, he is a playmaker, he doesn't get rattled, he can make all the throws, and he obviously has excellent mobility.He walked into Wisconsin last year at the start of fall practice, having never met his teammates or taken a snap in the offense, immediately mastered the offense and earned his teammates' trust to the point of being named captain, and went on to have a dominant season. That is pretty impressive.'KingPrawn said:
That's better than a lifelong minor league baseball player.
Haha very trueThat's better than a lifelong minor league baseball player.
Nicely done JWB. I agree that, based on seeing him play, I would think Wilson is a better quarterback than Smith, Wallace or Taylor, but I'm with you...his physical limitations make his success at the next level unlikely. Impossible? No, of course not. But unlikely.
Out of curiousity, I had to google Doug Fluties draft position. He was selected as the 285th pick in the 11th round by the LA Rams.
Flynn's contract is actually very cap friendly and he's not making that much.
The bold above is the biggest lie I see repeated consistently. I don't understand how agents and the media are able to twist words so much as to con the average fan. I read recently that Seattle is one of two teams that haven't invested in a first round quarterback or a $20 million guaranteed contract at the quarterback position. Seattle continues to not throw money at quarterbacks like the rest of the league.
it's schtick!
you are right that it is not 20 millionos my brother hooper but it is a three year 19.5 millionos contract which is pretty dang close and the point is that they are not paying russell the sports acessory company that much or even close and whether you want to say they donot overpay qbs or whatever 19.5 is a lot and not easily overlooked and they are going to give that 19.5 a chance to pan out before they start a rook they just drafted but i feel pretty confident in saying that if they had not spent just about 20 millionos for flynn and it was the sports accessory company versus whitehurst or jackson you know pretty darned well who would be starting and if flynn was just some joe they drafted rather than someone they paid that money to i bet russell would start then too take that to the bank you have my prediction and i stand by it
You're still not getting it. Its not a three year 19.5 million dollar contract. That's just what the agent and ESPN report. The only dollar amount that has any relevance is the guaranteed money. All the rest is distraction and nonsense. Flynn is guaranteed just over half of that dollar amount over two years. Flynn isn't even getting paid enough to be considered an average NFL starter. This notion that the team has invested big dollars in Flynn is absurd.
