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Ryan Mathews & Mike Tolbert, RBs, San Diego Chargers (1 Viewer)
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Walton Goggins
Footballguy
I really hope so since I own Matthews and Tolbert and sick of them in and out of the lineup with nagging injuries.'Gr00vus said:If Matthews is out, Tolbert will be getting just about all of the RB targets out of the backfield this week, so the potential for touches via receptions is not trivial. If Tolbert is healthy enough to go (and that's what it sounds like) he'll be a good start this week.'Walton Goggins said:He hasn't caught more than 5 passes since week 2. I'm not in a PPR league.(Tolbert owner)'RBM said:Sure, he will catch like 7-8 passes'Walton Goggins said:Will Tobert be a sneaky play if GB gets up 21 points on SD quickly?'scrumptrulescent said:If Tolbert is back to healthy and practicing, I'm all for it. Let Mathews sit and watch Tolbert do well. Maybe that will motivate him a little to get rid of the dress and start playing football. And a healthy Tolbert this week could be a sneaky excellent play against Green Bay.'lexdizzle said:Per RotoworldAccording to the San Diego Union-Tribune's Kevin Acee, "it is feared" Ryan Mathews (groin) will be unavailable for Week 9.Acee is one of the most reliable beat writers in the country, so his word should not be taken lightly. With San Diego's Wednesday practice coming less than 48 hours after Monday's loss, Mathews will almost certainly sit out. That means the first real clue as to his Sunday status will come on Thursday. You should tentatively plan on being without him this weekend.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
You'll continue to be in for a long season then.I really hope so since I own Matthews and Tolbert and sick of them in and out of the lineup with nagging injuries.'Gr00vus said:If Matthews is out, Tolbert will be getting just about all of the RB targets out of the backfield this week, so the potential for touches via receptions is not trivial. If Tolbert is healthy enough to go (and that's what it sounds like) he'll be a good start this week.'Walton Goggins said:He hasn't caught more than 5 passes since week 2. I'm not in a PPR league.(Tolbert owner)'RBM said:Sure, he will catch like 7-8 passes'Walton Goggins said:Will Tobert be a sneaky play if GB gets up 21 points on SD quickly?'scrumptrulescent said:If Tolbert is back to healthy and practicing, I'm all for it. Let Mathews sit and watch Tolbert do well. Maybe that will motivate him a little to get rid of the dress and start playing football. And a healthy Tolbert this week could be a sneaky excellent play against Green Bay.'lexdizzle said:Per Rotoworld
According to the San Diego Union-Tribune's Kevin Acee, "it is feared" Ryan Mathews (groin) will be unavailable for Week 9.
Acee is one of the most reliable beat writers in the country, so his word should not be taken lightly. With San Diego's Wednesday practice coming less than 48 hours after Monday's loss, Mathews will almost certainly sit out. That means the first real clue as to his Sunday status will come on Thursday. You should tentatively plan on being without him this weekend.
Walton Goggins
Footballguy
Go through it every week with having them and Blount and Beanie and Murray as my RB group.You'll continue to be in for a long season then.I really hope so since I own Matthews and Tolbert and sick of them in and out of the lineup with nagging injuries.'Gr00vus said:If Matthews is out, Tolbert will be getting just about all of the RB targets out of the backfield this week, so the potential for touches via receptions is not trivial. If Tolbert is healthy enough to go (and that's what it sounds like) he'll be a good start this week.'Walton Goggins said:He hasn't caught more than 5 passes since week 2. I'm not in a PPR league.(Tolbert owner)'RBM said:Sure, he will catch like 7-8 passes'Walton Goggins said:Will Tobert be a sneaky play if GB gets up 21 points on SD quickly?'scrumptrulescent said:If Tolbert is back to healthy and practicing, I'm all for it. Let Mathews sit and watch Tolbert do well. Maybe that will motivate him a little to get rid of the dress and start playing football. And a healthy Tolbert this week could be a sneaky excellent play against Green Bay.'lexdizzle said:Per Rotoworld
According to the San Diego Union-Tribune's Kevin Acee, "it is feared" Ryan Mathews (groin) will be unavailable for Week 9.
Acee is one of the most reliable beat writers in the country, so his word should not be taken lightly. With San Diego's Wednesday practice coming less than 48 hours after Monday's loss, Mathews will almost certainly sit out. That means the first real clue as to his Sunday status will come on Thursday. You should tentatively plan on being without him this weekend.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
I've got those same 3 guys in one league. Fortunately I also have Peterson and Fred Jackson, along with McGahee. Yeah, I front loaded my RBs.
Walton Goggins
Footballguy
Yea, thank god my QBs are Rodgers and CAM with Graham as TE and Wallace as one of my WR or I'd be toast (with Roddy will wake up)Rodgers has single handily won me a few games this year. Glad I drafted him instead of Vick in my first round.May try and trade CAM for Fred Jackson so I won't have to worry about one RB spot
Gr00vus
Footballguy
I question whether Jackson can continue this pace, but you should try and work something out with that surplus at QB. It's weird, the team of mine I mentioned now has Cam at QB (taking over for my wasted 3rd round Rivers) too.
Walton Goggins
Footballguy
I would love more options but the league I am in it's filled with quirky owners who will not trade at all. Only one team is shown they want to trade and their best RB is Jackson.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Sorry for the hijack.
Swing 51
Footballguy
CBS says Tolbert practiced today while Mathews & Brinkley did not.
BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
Dynasty league question: I believe Tolbert is a Free Agent after the year. Do you think they resign him or let him go? As a Matthews owner I am tempted to deal him and not mess with the RBBC but he does have alot of talent.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Wednesday: Full practice for Tolbert. Concerned neither Matthews nor Brinkley will be able to go on Sunday.
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Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
After a season and a half of watching Matthews I truly believe that he will be one of those guys who is always nicked with nagging little injuries. I really do not see Matthews ever playing a full season, plus he does not seem to have any urgency to get back in the game when he gets banged.
Dought Man
Footballguy
Tolbert in line for about 22 carries, 114 yards, 2 touchdowns and 6 catches for 46 yards today. 
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Mathews' prospects for success @ CHI look pretty dim. What are y'all doing with him this week?
I'm praying Gore is inactive so I can roll with Hunter vs. Arizona instead.
I'm praying Gore is inactive so I can roll with Hunter vs. Arizona instead.
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
Starting him with confidence. I predict he breaks the century mark in receiving yards this week, and scores a TD.Mathews' prospects for success @ CHI look pretty dim. What are y'all doing with him this week?I'm praying Gore is inactive so I can roll with Hunter vs. Arizona instead.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Over a buck in receiving yards ALONE?No offense, butStarting him with confidence. I predict he breaks the century mark in receiving yards this week, and scores a TD.Mathews' prospects for success @ CHI look pretty dim. What are y'all doing with him this week?I'm praying Gore is inactive so I can roll with Hunter vs. Arizona instead.
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shadyridr
Footballguy
link to your twitter feed please so I can be appraised of all your doingsMathews' prospects for success @ CHI look pretty dim. What are y'all doing with him this week?I'm praying Gore is inactive so I can roll with Hunter vs. Arizona instead.
I'm curious about the opinions regarding tolbert and Matthews dynasty and this seasons prospects?
Over a buck in receiving yards ALONE?No offense, butStarting him with confidence. I predict he breaks the century mark in receiving yards this week, and scores a TD.Mathews' prospects for success @ CHI look pretty dim. What are y'all doing with him this week?I'm praying Gore is inactive so I can roll with Hunter vs. Arizona instead.
phillybirds
Footballguy
The Bears D has looked really good the last 2 weeks. But in my PPR league, Matthews has done well most every week. I can't bench him just because the Raiders out game-planned and out coached San Diego last Thursday. Starting him with fingers crossed.Mathews' prospects for success @ CHI look pretty dim. What are y'all doing with him this week?I'm praying Gore is inactive so I can roll with Hunter vs. Arizona instead.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
McNeil out and his fill in at LT was a revolving door against Oakland. Peppers just may kill Rivers this weekend.Common sense tells me SD should consider using the strength of their team and run the ball.....a lot. Turner doesn't consider common sense much though so instead they may throw the ball 45 times.Bears D is good, I don't see Tolbert doing much at all. If healthy though, I could see an explosive guy like Mathews having a big day. J Best, McCoy, J Stewart, and Deangelo Williams have all had success against the Bears D. If Mathews truly is healthy now, and he should be with as little as he's done the past few weeks, he could do well against Chicago.Line is Chicago by 3.5 right now so no one is predicting a Bears' blowout. And the O/U is 45 so there will be points put on the board. This could be one of those games SD is supposed to lose but ends up looking really good.The Bears D has looked really good the last 2 weeks. But in my PPR league, Matthews has done well most every week. I can't bench him just because the Raiders out game-planned and out coached San Diego last Thursday. Starting him with fingers crossed.Mathews' prospects for success @ CHI look pretty dim. What are y'all doing with him this week?I'm praying Gore is inactive so I can roll with Hunter vs. Arizona instead.
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tommyGunZ
Footballguy
Worst line I've seen in the NFL this year. Obviously anything can happen when you have a HOF QB and quality weapons like VJax, Gates, and Mathews, but this should be Chicago in a cakewalk.I'm enough of a homer that I hardly ever throw against my boys since it ruins the entire weekend, but I'm tempted to put ~ 500 on the Bears. The Chargers are a MASH unit right now and Chicago is humming like a Ferrari. Screams easy money to me.'scrumptrulescent said:
⚡DEADHEAD⚡
Footballguy
HOF?
Chargers Hall of Fame sure. He'd have to win a Super Bowl to go to Canton, there is no doubt about that.
Tau837
Footballguy
I'm not saying he will go, but this isn't true. There are QBs in the HOF with no rings.
I'm just saying, I think there's no doubt that in Rivers' case, it is true. Did I say that there are not QBs in the HOF with no rings? Didn't think so. I guess it's for another thread, but if you think he is a HOF, make your case. I'll just say this, the numbers say he's good QB, not a great one. He's on pace to average about 3,900 yards over six seasons, while averaging 24 TDs per season. We are not witnessing greatness here. If you don't win a title, your numbers better be great, in my opinion. It would be a disservice to to those in the HOF to put Rivers if he continues at his current rate. Let's compare him to Eli Manning. His six full seasons as starter averages are 3,600 yards and 25 TDs. He's obviously won a Super Bowl. I don't consider Eli a HOF at this point, but I would make the argument that he's more accomplished than Rivers. Neither one has anywhere near an MVP-type of season, which I'd like to see out of a HOF QB. Rivers' winning percentage is better, but Eli stepped in as the starter right away, while Rivers stood on the sidelines for 2 years. Anyway, back to Mathews and Tolbert. I see Mathews going for 70 yards rushing, 50 receiving against Chicago, 1 TD. Big day but Bears win of course. I agree that they'll have to get Mathews (And Gates) going to have a chance with that busted up o-line.
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⚡DEADHEAD⚡
Footballguy
I don't think he's even close. I haven't looked at the numbers but I'd guess Eli's numbers are close to his and and he's got a ring. And I don't think Eli is a HOF QB either. Hell, people even say Warner is borderline.
books always love sd, as a homer you should know that by now. regardless, lol at worst line of the yr.Worst line I've seen in the NFL this year. Obviously anything can happen when you have a HOF QB and quality weapons like VJax, Gates, and Mathews, but this should be Chicago in a cakewalk.I'm enough of a homer that I hardly ever throw against my boys since it ruins the entire weekend, but I'm tempted to put ~ 500 on the Bears. The Chargers are a MASH unit right now and Chicago is humming like a Ferrari. Screams easy money to me.'scrumptrulescent said:
Tau837
Footballguy
Warner is a lock. Eli probably has a very good shot, given he already has a ring and has good genes in terms of durability and likelihood to play for a long time.
AngryPatriot
Footballguy
So how about Mathews and Tolbert this week? Any thoughts about the topic? Looks like Mathews is healthy and could be due for a good game, maybe 15/90, 3/50/1.
shadyridr
Footballguy
sd oline is decimated. i think mathews has a good game receiving but not much running room
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
1st & goal at the 8. No touches for either RB on three plays.
God, I hate this team -- for a million different reasons.
God, I hate this team -- for a million different reasons.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
AND now a fumble.
Where's my buddy shady to remind me how awesome Mathews is?
Where's my buddy shady to remind me how awesome Mathews is?
TheFootballJesus
Footballguy
Yeah, that post you deleted about him being on a 200 yard pace wasn't premature at all.AND now a fumble.Where's my buddy shady to remind me how awesome Mathews is?
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Yeah, it was COMPLETELY serious too.Yeah, that post you deleted about him being on a 200 yard pace wasn't premature at all.AND now a fumble.Where's my buddy shady to remind me how awesome Mathews is?
TheFootballJesus
Footballguy
The sarcasm in it actually was pretty obvious which makes me wonder why you deleted it.Yeah, it was COMPLETELY serious too.Yeah, that post you deleted about him being on a 200 yard pace wasn't premature at all.AND now a fumble.Where's my buddy shady to remind me how awesome Mathews is?
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
It's called common courtesy. I deleted it because I was about to make my third consecutive post, and I hate Hippling threads.The sarcasm in it actually was pretty obvious which makes me wonder why you deleted it.Yeah, it was COMPLETELY serious too.Yeah, that post you deleted about him being on a 200 yard pace wasn't premature at all.AND now a fumble.Where's my buddy shady to remind me how awesome Mathews is?
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
If we can get back on topic, is the writing on the wall with this situation, or what?
He fumbles, and then he doesn't get to play with the older kids anymore. Just stands on the sidelines sulking. I would unload him for a box of crayons if our trade deadline hadn't passed. If he (and Tolbert, for that matter) don't have a productive game at home vs. Denver next week, it's officially panic time.
He fumbles, and then he doesn't get to play with the older kids anymore. Just stands on the sidelines sulking. I would unload him for a box of crayons if our trade deadline hadn't passed. If he (and Tolbert, for that matter) don't have a productive game at home vs. Denver next week, it's officially panic time.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
He's wearing big-boy pants now. No games against San Jose State on the schedule.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Will there be a game in the next several weeks where he has 130 rushing, 85 receiving and 2 TDs? Probably.But predicting when that will happen is the problem. He's far from an automatic start at this point. It's all matchup-based down the stretch.
That's a good point. I think his third year can only be his best as he adjusts to the speed of the NFL. Maybe if he played in the SEC, he'd have stepped in as a rookie and tore it up. He did make strides this season even if there's been some inconsistencies caused by a myriad of factors (line, Rivers' turnovers, a ####ty defense that allows opponents to eat up the clock, a couple injuries).
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shadyridr
Footballguy
ya think? his schedule is really tough and he only has 3tds ALL year
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
If it's gonna happen, next week at home vs. Denver would be one of the obvious spots.
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