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With Brown out for 4 weeks, we have some backup to protect Schaub's backside from Demarcus Ware.....seems bad. Plus, you have AJ with a tweaked ankle....

Wrestling with the decision to start Vick over him or not. Started Vick last week and luckily only missed out on 9 points extra from Schaub.

Thoughts?

 
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Odd, i have the same 2 qb's in one of my dynasties and i have the same concerns as well as being a homer and telling everyone to cool just a tad on the texans about to beat the snicks off of the cowboys but with D.Brown out 4 game and facing Ward this week this will be rough for my texans and possible FF outlook for Schaub. I got a tough matchup and dont want to get too cute but i think i will wait till kickoff before who i decide.

You raise a helleva question though. I think it impacts his numbers....How much i dont know.

 
This is a bigger issue than some realize. Brown likely would not have needed help vs. Ware. Butler definitely will, which means either a RB or TE will have to stay in and block instead of running a pattern they normally might have.

I have no interest in this fantasy-wise... just figuring out what to make of it from a betting perspective.

 
This is a bigger issue than some realize. Brown likely would not have needed help vs. Ware. Butler definitely will, which means either a RB or TE will have to stay in and block instead of running a pattern they normally might have.I have no interest in this fantasy-wise... just figuring out what to make of it from a betting perspective.
Yes, I find this very interesting. I didn't know about Brown being out. Sunday's game will give a nice scouting report for the Raiders week #4 matchup against the Texans. Perhaps this is exploitable?
 
From Fanball:

Adam Caplan with Fox Sports reports the Houston Texans will be without left tackle Duane Brown following a four-game suspension mandated by the NFL for violating the league's policy on performance enhancing substances.The suspension was announced on Tuesday as the Texans were absorbing the glories of one of the best starts to the 2010 NFL season, putting the Arian Foster wood to the Indianapolis Colts and pulling an overtime win off the arm of Matt Schaub in Washington last week. Both of those games were supported by one of the best offensive-line efforts we've seen through two weeks.However, Brown struggled a bit last week as the 'Skins were bringing the rush from all sides, giving up nine quarterback hits for five sacks as a unit (I would put two of those sacks on Brown). We remember Brown was hampered all through the latter part of the 2009 season by a nagging knee strain, and now he comes off the disappointing performance with positive conclusions and we get the news that he's failed the urine drop (I would guess he's trying to keep the knee in check, but that's pure speculation) and will be spending four weeks (a) letting his knee get healthy, and (b) letting Rashad Butler audition for his job.Butler, drafted in the third round in 2006 by the Carolina Panthers, has struggled to crack a starting lineup through five years in preparation for this opportunity. He has yet to register an official start with the league but he has appeared in 24 total games, including several in relief of Brown while hampered with the knee last season. Most of his time has come on special teams, and while he has done well, there's a reason he wasn't given the job coming out of training camp.Now he's getting DeMarcus Ware, Richard Seymour, Justin Tuck, and Tamba Hali as his official audition tape moving forward… and that's why we have labeled this situation as bad.Having a veteran backup is clearly of benefit for the Texans (depth we used to praise this line during our regular season evaluations) and Butler seems excited about the opportunity. However, Brown is a significant upgrade (thus earning the right to keep his job and paycheck despite the injury woes) and there is an undeniable need for worry as the Texans turn to the secondary option covering Schaub's blind side. Dallas comes in ranked sixth in the NFL in rushing defense (3.0 yards per carry, 63.5 rushing yards per game) and thus it's hard to imagine Foster can serve as the point of emphasis. If the Texans want to keep winning, they need leadership and performance from Schaub.With Butler now facing four of the premier pass rushers in professional football in support of that effort, we cannot deny the emotion of concern that follows.
 
it only becomes an issue if dallas gets a large lead forcing the texans to pass pass pass with no run action.

doubt that will happen.

plus dallas doesn't get any turnovers.

 
it only becomes an issue if dallas gets a large lead forcing the texans to pass pass pass with no run action.doubt that will happen.plus dallas doesn't get any turnovers.
Right, Ware is at his most dangerous when the Cowboys have a lead and he's allowed to pin his ears back and go after the QB every play. If that situation happens, then yes you can worry.However, I see Houston trying to bring in a heavy dose of the run as well, at least to start to see if they can move the chains that way. A. Foster had a huge preseason game against the Cowboys a few weeks back and I would at least think they would test to see if they can duplicate it in the regular season.Bottom line, I wouldn't be overly concerned about Ware. He may get a sack or two but that shouldn't slow down Schaub too much.
 
Good points made in here. From a fantasy perspective, the questions are, "How much of a downgrade for Schaub?" and "Does that down-tick put him equal to or below my QB2"? In my case, the answer to the second question is "no" but individual mileage may vary...

 
Iwannabeacowboybaby! said:
cowboyz said:
it only becomes an issue if dallas gets a large lead forcing the texans to pass pass pass with no run action.doubt that will happen.plus dallas doesn't get any turnovers.
Right, Ware is at his most dangerous when the Cowboys have a lead and he's allowed to pin his ears back and go after the QB every play. If that situation happens, then yes you can worry.However, I see Houston trying to bring in a heavy dose of the run as well, at least to start to see if they can move the chains that way. A. Foster had a huge preseason game against the Cowboys a few weeks back and I would at least think they would test to see if they can duplicate it in the regular season.Bottom line, I wouldn't be overly concerned about Ware. He may get a sack or two but that shouldn't slow down Schaub too much.
Right and that's been their MO when I got to see them. RUN. Brown wasn't playing well though. Schaub has looked so much more comfy with a running game-he looked elite to me when I saw him. I flipped the channels and no one looked as good as him. There's no way the Texans go away from that run game (that didn't exactly rely on Brown) after seeing how wonderfully it can compliment Schaub.The run, quick passes to the WR (ala Charlie Weiss), screens to under-utilized Slaton could impact Ware too. Ware's great. I don't think teams stop Ware-he's a game changer. Even if some dopey gameplan had 3-4 guys eventually chipping at him before he got to the QB, well then he made an impact. The Texans just have to be ready for a play by Ware and take it. Go down and absorb the sack or the tackle behind the line of scrimmage. The rest of the Cowboys D is not playing well enough to beat them at all. They (the Boys and their D) play as if they have no pride. The Texans will destroy them if they don't "step up" today. People are talking about their season (all but) ending, coach getting fired etc. They play as if someone tells them "good job" after a loss and is all congratulatory. Get angry, play with some fire.It starts with the coach being results oriented. Make everyone win their matchup or sit, carry on from there. Put in a revolving door on both lines as they all seem to take a play off here and there and get oWned. I mean c'mon Phillips!Put Barber in often because he runs with the beast attitude that the whole team needs to have today.RN- Owen Daniels has been hurt and IMO their (former quarterbacks playing) TE aren't very good blockers.
 
Sorry for previous but the Cowboys coaching is horrible and a replacement now just doesn't seem possible. The whole thing kinda angers or frustrates me.

If I were Jones I'd be the first owner to suspend coaches and let DeCamillis run the team for a week or two. That throwback would have them eating nails in practice and if Phillips and Garrett won't be results oriented well then Jones will. They need attitude more than anything.

Plus I can't believe anyone would sit a Texan after watching the Cowboys

 
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Child Please said:
Im more concerned of a Schaub injury with a leaky blindside. We all know his history.
We Texans fans know his history, but I don't think you do, as evidenced by the implications of your post.To answer the OP....I wouldn't bench Schaub because of Duane Brown's suspension. Butler is no rookie and is not lacking in the confidence department, so he intends to use this opportunity to win a starting job in the NFL. He's practiced with this team for a long time now and knows his responsibilities. I don't expect a huge dropoff in production from the overall line play because Duane Brown isn't exactly the bees knees as a left tackle.
 
However, Brown struggled a bit last week as the 'Skins were bringing the rush from all sides, giving up nine quarterback hits for five sacks as a unit (I would put two of those sacks on Brown).

and schaub still threw for 500.

like that other guy said, I'm more worried about injury than anything else.

I hope they keep a rb in on every play.

 
Schaub isn't brittle so y'all shouldn't worry about injuries. He was taken out by dirty hits in the games he missed a few seasons ago. I too almost benched him for Vick, but I figure the Cowgirls will stop the run and the Texans will have to pass. I expect some points to be put up today.

 
I'm not very worried about this having a profound effect on Shaub's production. I would be more worried if I was an Arian Foster owner considering that he will most likely be staying in to chip block and help out the LT. You drafted Shaub to produce, don't bench him in a game that Houston wants to win more than any game this year. I think he's out to make a statement today, roll with him and smile.

 
I'm not very worried about this having a profound effect on Shaub's production. I would be more worried if I was an Arian Foster owner considering that he will most likely be staying in to chip block and help out the LT. You drafted Shaub to produce, don't bench him in a game that Houston wants to win more than any game this year. I think he's out to make a statement today, roll with him and smile.
Over Vick?
 
I'm not very worried about this having a profound effect on Shaub's production. I would be more worried if I was an Arian Foster owner considering that he will most likely be staying in to chip block and help out the LT. You drafted Shaub to produce, don't bench him in a game that Houston wants to win more than any game this year. I think he's out to make a statement today, roll with him and smile.
Over Vick?
Yea, I would.
 
You drafted Shaub to produce, don't bench him in a game that Houston wants to win more than any game this year.
Sorry for the off topic post, but this statement is crazy. We Texans fans may want to win this game badly, but winning today's game is not anywhere close to the top of the wish list for the team and coaching staff. I'm pretty sure they'd all exchange a home loss against an NFC opponent if it meant winning on the road at Indy, Tennessee, and Jacksonville.
 
The solution was to use Roy? Well whatever works, I sure wouldn't have predicted RW would do well

 

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