Scott Walker WI governor vs the Packers & teachers (2 Viewers)

[Phase of the Game]

He does it all the time. The beauty of it all is he is considered a joke and has no clue about that. It's funny, sad and pathetic but it is funny watching someone continue to make a complete fool of himself.

He's a joke.

Not at all. I'll debate with people until they sling mud and turn this into a personal attack.

 

[cr8f]

Looks like heavy turnout at the polls early.

If you are in Madison Union Cab is offering free rides to the polls. Call Union cab 242-2000

Hope there are no negative incidents today. Vote your conscience. I voted a few days ago-Wis has same day and early voting.

 

[sho nuff]

Looks like heavy turnout at the polls early.If you are in Madison Union Cab is offering free rides to the polls. Call Union cab 242-2000Hope there are no negative incidents today. Vote your conscience. I voted a few days ago-Wis has same day and early voting.

They allow you to copy and paste votes too?

 

[Statorama]

My big fear is that a lot of hot headed idiots will make the Supreme Court election a "one issue" election in regards to collective bargaining. Obviously, Kloppenberg will side with the unions on any piece of legislation brought before her. But there are other issues at stake in Wisconsin's future that you don't want a far left leaning court deciding. Gun rights. Property rights. Business and Economy growth. Personal freedoms. A victory by Kloppenberg will strangle the life out of Wisconsin's growth potential.

Help save Wisconsin. Vote Prosser.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Not at all. I'll debate with people until they sling mud and turn this into a personal attack. This is about Wisconsin and maybe the future of the country is these recalls work.

Looks like another possible crony gets a huge raise

Have any of the Walker backers addressed the substance of this piece?

Just in his mid-20s, Brian Deschane has no college degree, very little management experience and two drunken-driving convictions.

Yet he has landed an $81,500-per-year job in Gov. Scott Walker's administration overseeing environmental and regulatory matters and dozens of employees at the Department of Commerce. Even though Walker says the state is broke and public employees are overpaid, Deschane already has earned a promotion and a 26% pay raise in just two months with the state.

How did Deschane score his plum assignment with the Walker team?

It's all in the family.

His father is Jerry Deschane, executive vice president and longtime lobbyist for the Madison-based Wisconsin Builders Association, which bet big on Walker during last year's governor's race.

The group's political action committee gave $29,000 to Walker and his running mate, Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch, last year, making it one of the top five PAC donors to the governor's successful campaign. Even more impressive, members of the trade group funneled more than $92,000 through its conduit to Walker's campaign over the past two years.

Total donations: $121,652.

WTF? Where is the outrage?

 

[Johnnymac]

Not at all. I'll debate with people until they sling mud and turn this into a personal attack. This is about Wisconsin and maybe the future of the country is these recalls work.

Looks like another possible crony gets a huge raise

Have any of the Walker backers addressed the substance of this piece?

Just in his mid-20s, Brian Deschane has no college degree, very little management experience and two drunken-driving convictions.

Yet he has landed an $81,500-per-year job in Gov. Scott Walker's administration overseeing environmental and regulatory matters and dozens of employees at the Department of Commerce. Even though Walker says the state is broke and public employees are overpaid, Deschane already has earned a promotion and a 26% pay raise in just two months with the state.

How did Deschane score his plum assignment with the Walker team?

It's all in the family.

His father is Jerry Deschane, executive vice president and longtime lobbyist for the Madison-based Wisconsin Builders Association, which bet big on Walker during last year's governor's race.

The group's political action committee gave $29,000 to Walker and his running mate, Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch, last year, making it one of the top five PAC donors to the governor's successful campaign. Even more impressive, members of the trade group funneled more than $92,000 through its conduit to Walker's campaign over the past two years.

Total donations: $121,652.

WTF? Where is the outrage?

I'm shocked by this news...

 

[tommyGunZ]

Mr Pack? Stat? Other Walker backers? What say you?

 

[Statorama]

Mr Pack? Stat? Other Walker backers? What say you?

Got to pay a little more to get and keep good employees.That article assumes that he got his job/raise due to family connections. Without even exploring his qualifications, that article comes across as just another hit piece against Walker.Edit to add: the timing on this is horrible.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Not at all. I'll debate with people until they sling mud and turn this into a personal attack. This is about Wisconsin and maybe the future of the country is these recalls work.

Looks like another possible crony gets a huge raise

Have any of the Walker backers addressed the substance of this piece?

Just in his mid-20s, Brian Deschane has no college degree, very little management experience and two drunken-driving convictions.

Yet he has landed an $81,500-per-year job in Gov. Scott Walker's administration overseeing environmental and regulatory matters and dozens of employees at the Department of Commerce. Even though Walker says the state is broke and public employees are overpaid, Deschane already has earned a promotion and a 26% pay raise in just two months with the state.

How did Deschane score his plum assignment with the Walker team?

It's all in the family.

His father is Jerry Deschane, executive vice president and longtime lobbyist for the Madison-based Wisconsin Builders Association, which bet big on Walker during last year's governor's race.

The group's political action committee gave $29,000 to Walker and his running mate, Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch, last year, making it one of the top five PAC donors to the governor's successful campaign. Even more impressive, members of the trade group funneled more than $92,000 through its conduit to Walker's campaign over the past two years.

Total donations: $121,652.

WTF? Where is the outrage?

Walker campaigned on this, but you probably weren't paying attention. People who were "paying attention", as that term has come to be used in Wisconsin, know that when he said, "I will create jobs", that clearly meant, "I will hire the unqualified children of my campaign donors."

 

[Johnnymac]

Mr Pack? Stat? Other Walker backers? What say you?

Got to pay a little more to get and keep good employees.That article assumes that he got his job/raise due to family connections. Without even exploring his qualifications, that article comes across as just another hit piece against Walker.Edit to add: the timing on this is horrible.

That hardly seems like the resume of a qualified employee, would you agree? Look, I'm not going to bash Walker over this cuz it happens all the time, but you have to at least admit that this guy got his job due to political connections...

 

[sho nuff]

Mr Pack? Stat? Other Walker backers? What say you?

Got to pay a little more to get and keep good employees.That article assumes that he got his job/raise due to family connections. Without even exploring his qualifications, that article comes across as just another hit piece against Walker.Edit to add: the timing on this is horrible.

That hardly seems like the resume of a qualified employee, would you agree? Look, I'm not going to bash Walker over this cuz it happens all the time, but you have to at least admit that this guy got his job due to political connections...

In all liklihood he did...as you said, happens all the time (which does not make it right) and I hate it every time it does happen.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Not at all. I'll debate with people until they sling mud and turn this into a personal attack. This is about Wisconsin and maybe the future of the country is these recalls work.

Looks like another possible crony gets a huge raise

Have any of the Walker backers addressed the substance of this piece?

Just in his mid-20s, Brian Deschane has no college degree, very little management experience and two drunken-driving convictions.

Yet he has landed an $81,500-per-year job in Gov. Scott Walker's administration overseeing environmental and regulatory matters and dozens of employees at the Department of Commerce. Even though Walker says the state is broke and public employees are overpaid, Deschane already has earned a promotion and a 26% pay raise in just two months with the state.

How did Deschane score his plum assignment with the Walker team?

It's all in the family.

His father is Jerry Deschane, executive vice president and longtime lobbyist for the Madison-based Wisconsin Builders Association, which bet big on Walker during last year's governor's race.

The group's political action committee gave $29,000 to Walker and his running mate, Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch, last year, making it one of the top five PAC donors to the governor's successful campaign. Even more impressive, members of the trade group funneled more than $92,000 through its conduit to Walker's campaign over the past two years.

Total donations: $121,652.

WTF? Where is the outrage?

Walker campaigned on this, but you probably weren't paying attention. People who were "paying attention", as that term has come to be used in Wisconsin, know that when he said, "I will create jobs", that clearly meant, "I will hire the unqualified children of my campaign donors."

Wasn't it Biggie who said "Mo DUIs, Mo Money", or something like that?

 

[timschochet]

I can't stand Walker. But this latest story is, unfortunately, irrelevant. I wish we lived in a society where our politicians didn't do this sort of crap, but we don't. And there is really no distinction between Democrats and Republicans in that regard. Therefore, if you supported Walker because you agree with his political positions and actions, you should continue to do so. This type of story should really have no effect on your thinking.

 

[tommyGunZ]

I can't stand Walker. But this latest story is, unfortunately, irrelevant. I wish we lived in a society where our politicians didn't do this sort of crap, but we don't. And there is really no distinction between Democrats and Republicans in that regard. Therefore, if you supported Walker because you agree with his political positions and actions, you should continue to do so. This type of story should really have no effect on your thinking.

Thanks for telling us what to think tim. It's one thing to appoint friends/supporters to positions that they are obviously qualified for. It's another to hand irresponsible drunken kids in their mid-20s w/o college degrees $80k+ supervisory gigs in areas they have no expertise. The "both sides do it card" is so lame. I'd feel the exact same way if Obama or any Democratic governor did this.

 

[snogger]

I can't stand Walker. But this latest story is, unfortunately, irrelevant. I wish we lived in a society where our politicians didn't do this sort of crap, but we don't. And there is really no distinction between Democrats and Republicans in that regard. Therefore, if you supported Walker because you agree with his political positions and actions, you should continue to do so. This type of story should really have no effect on your thinking.

It is a sad state of affairs that something like this now days gets a and a from everyone in the US no matter which side does it. This country is run on the notion of "You scratch my back I'll double scratch yours" :(Someday things will change.. Probably not in my lifetime, but I will continue to vote hoping for that change.

 

[snogger]

I can't stand Walker. But this latest story is, unfortunately, irrelevant. I wish we lived in a society where our politicians didn't do this sort of crap, but we don't. And there is really no distinction between Democrats and Republicans in that regard. Therefore, if you supported Walker because you agree with his political positions and actions, you should continue to do so. This type of story should really have no effect on your thinking.

Thanks for telling us what to think tim. It's one thing to appoint friends/supporters to positions that they are obviously qualified for. It's another to hand irresponsible drunken kids in their mid-20s w/o college degrees $80k+ supervisory gigs in areas they have no expertise. The "both sides do it card" is so lame. I'd feel the exact same way if Obama or any Democratic governor did this.

And you should.. But outrage?? If this was the first or 2nd time something like this happened then yes.

After hundreds of appointments made like this on both sides of the aisles it is hard to work up a at this time no matter who does it.

 

[sho nuff]

I can't stand Walker. But this latest story is, unfortunately, irrelevant. I wish we lived in a society where our politicians didn't do this sort of crap, but we don't. And there is really no distinction between Democrats and Republicans in that regard. Therefore, if you supported Walker because you agree with his political positions and actions, you should continue to do so. This type of story should really have no effect on your thinking.

Thanks for telling us what to think tim. It's one thing to appoint friends/supporters to positions that they are obviously qualified for. It's another to hand irresponsible drunken kids in their mid-20s w/o college degrees $80k+ supervisory gigs in areas they have no expertise. The "both sides do it card" is so lame. I'd feel the exact same way if Obama or any Democratic governor did this.

I think the card is played more from the stance of "that is why there is not a lot of outrage about it".Its just expected.Other than Stat's post...not sure I would see anyone actually supporting that move.

 

[tommyGunZ]

But outrage?? If this was the first or 2nd time something like this happened then yes.After hundreds of appointments made like this on both sides of the aisles it is hard to work up a at this time no matter who does it.

You've seen hundreds of appointments on both sides of the aisle that are as blatantly ridiculous as this one? I'm calling BS.

 

[Phase of the Game]

I can't stand Walker. But this latest story is, unfortunately, irrelevant. I wish we lived in a society where our politicians didn't do this sort of crap, but we don't. And there is really no distinction between Democrats and Republicans in that regard. Therefore, if you supported Walker because you agree with his political positions and actions, you should continue to do so. This type of story should really have no effect on your thinking.

Thanks for telling us what to think tim. It's one thing to appoint friends/supporters to positions that they are obviously qualified for. It's another to hand irresponsible drunken kids in their mid-20s w/o college degrees $80k+ supervisory gigs in areas they have no expertise. The "both sides do it card" is so lame. I'd feel the exact same way if Obama or any Democratic governor did this.

The ignoring that Dems do this too is so lame. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=washingtonstory&sid=adfv4RHV3Kmk

 

[snogger]

But outrage?? If this was the first or 2nd time something like this happened then yes.

After hundreds of appointments made like this on both sides of the aisles it is hard to work up a at this time no matter who does it.

You've seen hundreds of appointments on both sides of the aisle that are as blatantly ridiculous as this one? I'm calling BS.

Ok, so they all didn't get through but:Clintons' Judaical appointment controversies

George Bush's

So much for bipartisain

Geroge Bush's recess appointments

Again, not saying "whats good for the goose "..

Just saying this happens almost every day now so it is hard to get outraged by it.

 

[tommyGunZ]

I can't stand Walker. But this latest story is, unfortunately, irrelevant. I wish we lived in a society where our politicians didn't do this sort of crap, but we don't. And there is really no distinction between Democrats and Republicans in that regard. Therefore, if you supported Walker because you agree with his political positions and actions, you should continue to do so. This type of story should really have no effect on your thinking.

Thanks for telling us what to think tim. It's one thing to appoint friends/supporters to positions that they are obviously qualified for. It's another to hand irresponsible drunken kids in their mid-20s w/o college degrees $80k+ supervisory gigs in areas they have no expertise. The "both sides do it card" is so lame. I'd feel the exact same way if Obama or any Democratic governor did this.

The ignoring that Dems do this too is so lame. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=washingtonstory&sid=adfv4RHV3Kmk

From that article, the first few people appointed were:- A former vice chairman of corporate and investment banking at Citi-Group.- CEO of a Palo Alto law firm.- CEO of Wildbrain Inc.- Partner at Williams and Connolly, LLP- Partner at Munger, Tolles, and Olson, LLP- Professor at St. Johns University.That's EXACTLY the same as giving a 25 yr old kid with no college degree and multiple DUI's a nice gig in the state house.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I can't stand Walker. But this latest story is, unfortunately, irrelevant. I wish we lived in a society where our politicians didn't do this sort of crap, but we don't. And there is really no distinction between Democrats and Republicans in that regard. Therefore, if you supported Walker because you agree with his political positions and actions, you should continue to do so. This type of story should really have no effect on your thinking.

I am certainly not saying Walker hiring this kid is something I approve. But I don't know what it has to do with Walker's actions against the union.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

He does it all the time. The beauty of it all is he is considered a joke and has no clue about that. It's funny, sad and pathetic but it is funny watching someone continue to make a complete fool of himself.

He's a joke.

Not at all. I'll debate with people until they sling mud and turn this into a personal attack. This is about Wisconsin and maybe the future of the country is these recalls work.

Looks like another possible crony gets a huge raise

You may say you're willing to debate with people but I have yet to so you actually do so. You didn't magically get your label of being a serial cut and paster who refuses to debate just because people decided they don't like you.

 

[snogger]

Round two coming to a state (Wisconsin) near you??

Gov. Scott Walker's union bargaining measure could be passed a second time as part of the next state budget, a top Republican lawmaker said Tuesday.

The measure repealing most collective bargaining for most public employees was passed by the Legislature and signed by the Republican governor last month. But it's been hit by legal challenges and at least for now has been blocked by a Dane County judge.

Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald (R-Juneau) said Tuesday that the measure could be included in the 2011-'13 state budget and passed a second time if the bill remains hung up in court.

"Ultimately, it'll be part of the state budget if it isn't fixed or dealt with in the courts," Fitzgerald said.

Previously, Fitzgerald had said only that the measure wouldn't be taken up again and passed as a stand-alone bill.

So, they first need to pass the bill that one of the democrats has proposed to prevent legislators from running away to another state. Then things could get interesting.

 

[Mr.Pack]

I can't stand Walker. But this latest story is, unfortunately, irrelevant. I wish we lived in a society where our politicians didn't do this sort of crap, but we don't. And there is really no distinction between Democrats and Republicans in that regard. Therefore, if you supported Walker because you agree with his political positions and actions, you should continue to do so. This type of story should really have no effect on your thinking.

I am certainly not saying Walker hiring this kid is something I approve. But I don't know what it has to do with Walker's actions against the union.

I agree 100%

 

[timschochet]

I can't stand Walker. But this latest story is, unfortunately, irrelevant. I wish we lived in a society where our politicians didn't do this sort of crap, but we don't. And there is really no distinction between Democrats and Republicans in that regard. Therefore, if you supported Walker because you agree with his political positions and actions, you should continue to do so. This type of story should really have no effect on your thinking.

I am certainly not saying Walker hiring this kid is something I approve. But I don't know what it has to do with Walker's actions against the union.

I agree 100%

So you can't stand Walker either?

 

[tommyGunZ]

I can't stand Walker. But this latest story is, unfortunately, irrelevant. I wish we lived in a society where our politicians didn't do this sort of crap, but we don't. And there is really no distinction between Democrats and Republicans in that regard. Therefore, if you supported Walker because you agree with his political positions and actions, you should continue to do so. This type of story should really have no effect on your thinking.

I am certainly not saying Walker hiring this kid is something I approve. But I don't know what it has to do with Walker's actions against the union.

I agree 100%

Any thoughts on the appointment Mr. Pack?

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I can't stand Walker. But this latest story is, unfortunately, irrelevant. I wish we lived in a society where our politicians didn't do this sort of crap, but we don't. And there is really no distinction between Democrats and Republicans in that regard. Therefore, if you supported Walker because you agree with his political positions and actions, you should continue to do so. This type of story should really have no effect on your thinking.

I am certainly not saying Walker hiring this kid is something I approve. But I don't know what it has to do with Walker's actions against the union.

I agree 100%

Any thoughts on the appointment Mr. Pack?

I'm not Pack but I think I was pretty clear when I said it's not something I approve. I think Mr. Pack was pretty clear when he said he agreed with me.I'm not okay with this appointment. I don't see what this appointment has to do with Walker's actions against the union.

 

[tommyGunZ]

I can't stand Walker. But this latest story is, unfortunately, irrelevant. I wish we lived in a society where our politicians didn't do this sort of crap, but we don't. And there is really no distinction between Democrats and Republicans in that regard. Therefore, if you supported Walker because you agree with his political positions and actions, you should continue to do so. This type of story should really have no effect on your thinking.

I am certainly not saying Walker hiring this kid is something I approve. But I don't know what it has to do with Walker's actions against the union.

I agree 100%

Any thoughts on the appointment Mr. Pack?

I'm not Pack but I think I was pretty clear when I said it's not something I approve. I think Mr. Pack was pretty clear when he said he agreed with me.I'm not okay with this appointment. I don't see what this appointment has to do with Walker's actions against the union.

Who said it did?

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I can't stand Walker. But this latest story is, unfortunately, irrelevant. I wish we lived in a society where our politicians didn't do this sort of crap, but we don't. And there is really no distinction between Democrats and Republicans in that regard. Therefore, if you supported Walker because you agree with his political positions and actions, you should continue to do so. This type of story should really have no effect on your thinking.

I am certainly not saying Walker hiring this kid is something I approve. But I don't know what it has to do with Walker's actions against the union.

I agree 100%

Any thoughts on the appointment Mr. Pack?

I'm not Pack but I think I was pretty clear when I said it's not something I approve. I think Mr. Pack was pretty clear when he said he agreed with me.I'm not okay with this appointment. I don't see what this appointment has to do with Walker's actions against the union.

Who said it did?

Then why the hell bring it up? Or continue to mention it in this thread?

 

[tommyGunZ]

I can't stand Walker. But this latest story is, unfortunately, irrelevant. I wish we lived in a society where our politicians didn't do this sort of crap, but we don't. And there is really no distinction between Democrats and Republicans in that regard. Therefore, if you supported Walker because you agree with his political positions and actions, you should continue to do so. This type of story should really have no effect on your thinking.

I am certainly not saying Walker hiring this kid is something I approve. But I don't know what it has to do with Walker's actions against the union.

I agree 100%

Any thoughts on the appointment Mr. Pack?

I'm not Pack but I think I was pretty clear when I said it's not something I approve. I think Mr. Pack was pretty clear when he said he agreed with me.I'm not okay with this appointment. I don't see what this appointment has to do with Walker's actions against the union.

Who said it did?

Then why the hell bring it up? Or continue to mention it in this thread?

Figured this was the Scott Walker thread. Do we really need more threads on Scott Walker?

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I can't stand Walker. But this latest story is, unfortunately, irrelevant. I wish we lived in a society where our politicians didn't do this sort of crap, but we don't. And there is really no distinction between Democrats and Republicans in that regard. Therefore, if you supported Walker because you agree with his political positions and actions, you should continue to do so. This type of story should really have no effect on your thinking.

I am certainly not saying Walker hiring this kid is something I approve. But I don't know what it has to do with Walker's actions against the union.

I agree 100%

Any thoughts on the appointment Mr. Pack?

I'm not Pack but I think I was pretty clear when I said it's not something I approve. I think Mr. Pack was pretty clear when he said he agreed with me.I'm not okay with this appointment. I don't see what this appointment has to do with Walker's actions against the union.

Who said it did?

Then why the hell bring it up? Or continue to mention it in this thread?

Figured this was the Scott Walker thread. Do we really need more threads on Scott Walker?

You just want to start a fight. Nobody is actually for this type of political nonsense. It's an unfortunate part of the game.

 

[tommyGunZ]

You just want to start a fight. Nobody is actually for this type of political nonsense. It's an unfortunate part of the game.

So the answer is to ignore it? It's not to be brought up in discussion?And since the defense from you guys seems to be "both sides do it all the time", it shouldn't be hard to find an example of like this from a Democrat, right? I'm not talking about Obama appointing CEOs and law firm partners to ambassadorships - I'm talking about democrats (Obama included) handing out leadership positions to kids in their mid 20s w/o college degrees with multiple DUIs.I'll hold my breath.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Looks like Walker did the right thing here in more or less reversing this decision, or at least reversing the promotion. So the kid still gets a job and contributes to the 250,000 jobs Walker said he would create in his first term without raising taxes. I suppose things like this happen and would say this is probably the least offensive of the political pay-back we've seen from his admin in the few months he's been in office.

Walker demotes son of campaign contributorBy Patrick Marley of the Journal SentinelApril 5, 2011 4:40 p.m. |(5) CommentsMadison — Gov. Scott Walker abruptly reversed course today and demoted the son of a large campaign contributor to his former job with the state Department of Regulation and Licensing.The move comes one day after the Journal Sentinel reported that Brian Deschane, 27, had landed an $81,500-a-year job in Walker's administration overseeing environmental and regulatory matters and dozens of employees at the Department of Commerce. The promotion amounted to a raise of 26%.His father is Jerry Deschane, executive vice president and longtime lobbyist for the Madison-based Wisconsin Builders Association. The group's political action committee gave $29,000 to Walker and his running mate, Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch, last year, making it one of the top five PAC donors to the governor's successful campaign. Members of the trade group also funneled more than $92,000 through its conduit to Walker's campaign over the past two years.The younger Deschane has no college degree, little management experience and two drunken driving convictions."Brian was moved to (the Department of) Commerce at the request of (Regulation and Licensing) Deputy Secretary John Scocos to head up a division that was eventually going to be moved to DRL," the statement said. "Deputy Secretary Scocos worked with Brian at DRL earlier this year and thought he could help with the transition of the Commerce division to DRL."When Governor Walker learned of the details of this agency staffing decision, he directed his administration to move in another direction."Walker chief of staff Keith Gilkes recommended Brian Deschane for a job with the Regulation and Licensing Department. In January, he became bureau director of board services, a position that paid $62,728 a year.His pay will return to the lower amount when he resumes duties Wednesday at the Department of Regulation and Licensing, Walker spokesman Cullen Werwie said.

http://www.jsonline.com/newswatch/119283094.html

 

[Dr. Awesome]

You just want to start a fight. Nobody is actually for this type of political nonsense. It's an unfortunate part of the game.

So the answer is to ignore it? It's not to be brought up in discussion?And since the defense from you guys seems to be "both sides do it all the time", it shouldn't be hard to find an example of like this from a Democrat, right? I'm not talking about Obama appointing CEOs and law firm partners to ambassadorships - I'm talking about democrats (Obama included) handing out leadership positions to kids in their mid 20s w/o college degrees with multiple DUIs.I'll hold my breath.

If this is the Walker thread, go ahead an mention it. Folk gave it a thumbs down. You want to go to every single poster and ask their opinion on this matter?I see it as campaign contributions buying an unqualified individual a job. Democrats and Republicans both do it.I don't care if you're a lawyer. That means you're qualified in your area of law. It doesn't mean you're qualified for any other job.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Looks like Walker did the right thing here in more or less reversing this decision, or at least reversing the promotion. So the kid still gets a job and contributes to the 250,000 jobs Walker said he would create in his first term without raising taxes. I suppose things like this happen and would say this is probably the least offensive of the political pay-back we've seen from his admin in the few months he's been in office.

Walker demotes son of campaign contributorBy Patrick Marley of the Journal SentinelApril 5, 2011 4:40 p.m. |(5) CommentsMadison — Gov. Scott Walker abruptly reversed course today and demoted the son of a large campaign contributor to his former job with the state Department of Regulation and Licensing.The move comes one day after the Journal Sentinel reported that Brian Deschane, 27, had landed an $81,500-a-year job in Walker's administration overseeing environmental and regulatory matters and dozens of employees at the Department of Commerce. The promotion amounted to a raise of 26%.His father is Jerry Deschane, executive vice president and longtime lobbyist for the Madison-based Wisconsin Builders Association. The group's political action committee gave $29,000 to Walker and his running mate, Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch, last year, making it one of the top five PAC donors to the governor's successful campaign. Members of the trade group also funneled more than $92,000 through its conduit to Walker's campaign over the past two years.The younger Deschane has no college degree, little management experience and two drunken driving convictions."Brian was moved to (the Department of) Commerce at the request of (Regulation and Licensing) Deputy Secretary John Scocos to head up a division that was eventually going to be moved to DRL," the statement said. "Deputy Secretary Scocos worked with Brian at DRL earlier this year and thought he could help with the transition of the Commerce division to DRL."When Governor Walker learned of the details of this agency staffing decision, he directed his administration to move in another direction."Walker chief of staff Keith Gilkes recommended Brian Deschane for a job with the Regulation and Licensing Department. In January, he became bureau director of board services, a position that paid $62,728 a year.His pay will return to the lower amount when he resumes duties Wednesday at the Department of Regulation and Licensing, Walker spokesman Cullen Werwie said.

http://www.jsonline.com/newswatch/119283094.html

This is better than the promotion, though I'm still interested in how he landed the $62k gig in the first place.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Looks like Walker did the right thing here in more or less reversing this decision, or at least reversing the promotion. So the kid still gets a job and contributes to the 250,000 jobs Walker said he would create in his first term without raising taxes. I suppose things like this happen and would say this is probably the least offensive of the political pay-back we've seen from his admin in the few months he's been in office.

Walker demotes son of campaign contributor

By Patrick Marley of the Journal Sentinel

April 5, 2011 4:40 p.m. |(5) Comments

Madison — Gov. Scott Walker abruptly reversed course today and demoted the son of a large campaign contributor to his former job with the state Department of Regulation and Licensing.

The move comes one day after the Journal Sentinel reported that Brian Deschane, 27, had landed an $81,500-a-year job in Walker's administration overseeing environmental and regulatory matters and dozens of employees at the Department of Commerce. The promotion amounted to a raise of 26%.

His father is Jerry Deschane, executive vice president and longtime lobbyist for the Madison-based Wisconsin Builders Association. The group's political action committee gave $29,000 to Walker and his running mate, Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch, last year, making it one of the top five PAC donors to the governor's successful campaign. Members of the trade group also funneled more than $92,000 through its conduit to Walker's campaign over the past two years.

The younger Deschane has no college degree, little management experience and two drunken driving convictions.

"Brian was moved to (the Department of) Commerce at the request of (Regulation and Licensing) Deputy Secretary John Scocos to head up a division that was eventually going to be moved to DRL," the statement said. "Deputy Secretary Scocos worked with Brian at DRL earlier this year and thought he could help with the transition of the Commerce division to DRL.

"When Governor Walker learned of the details of this agency staffing decision, he directed his administration to move in another direction."

Walker chief of staff Keith Gilkes recommended Brian Deschane for a job with the Regulation and Licensing Department. In January, he became bureau director of board services, a position that paid $62,728 a year.

His pay will return to the lower amount when he resumes duties Wednesday at the Department of Regulation and Licensing, Walker spokesman Cullen Werwie said.

http://www.jsonline.com/newswatch/119283094.html

This is better than the promotion, though I'm still interested in how he landed the $62k gig in the first place.

I've seen your posts. You're not this dense. You know how he landed this gig.

 

[timschochet]

If I had to guess, he probably wasn't even aware of it. Some staffer did it, ####ed up. I doubt a governor is going to be aware of everyone who gets hired. If he was aware of it, I doubt he would have done something so obviously stupid. It's an embarrassment for him.

Anyhow, there's lots of reasons to dislike this guy (Walker) and I do. I don't really care about this one.

 

[tommyGunZ]

This is better than the promotion, though I'm still interested in how he landed the $62k gig in the first place.

I've seen your posts. You're not this dense. You know how he landed this gig.

I know what my first guess would be. I like to call it white-man's-affirmative-action.

 

[cr8f]

They predicted normal turnout for this kind of election(20% ) but voter turnout in Madison is a lot higher so far.

http://www.cityofmadison.com/clerk/documents/April2011Turnout.pdf

 

[The Kerminator]

If I had to guess, he probably wasn't even aware of it. Some staffer did it, ####ed up. I doubt a governor is going to be aware of everyone who gets hired. If he was aware of it, I doubt he would have done something so obviously stupid. It's an embarrassment for him. Anyhow, there's lots of reasons to dislike this guy (Walker) and I do. I don't really care about this one.

That is what I hear as well. The original hire was made by a staffer. Certainly a poor political move in the current environment. Glad to see he reversed the hiring.

 

[The Kerminator]

They predicted normal turnout for this kind of election(20% ) but voter turnout in Madison is a lot higher so far.http://www.cityofmadison.com/clerk/documents/April2011Turnout.pdf

No real surprise at all to see a high turnout in Madison. Madison and Milwaukee both have races going on this election (mayoral and county exec) besides the supreme court race. Traditionally both Dane County and Milwaukee County have strong democratic support. Not good for Prosser.

 

[The Kerminator]

National Union Spokesman sent talking points to AWOL senators

National union spokesman sent talking points to Senate Democrats

By Jason Stein of the Journal Sentinel

Updated: April 5, 2011 1:28 p.m. |(436) Comments

Madison -- The same day Senate Democrats left the state to boycott a vote on Gov. Scott Walker’s collective bargaining bill, a union official from Washington, D.C., provided the Democrats' leader with talking points.

Emails released by the office of Senate Minority Leader Mark Miller (D-Monona) show how Democratic senators sought to explain their unusual action to drive to Illinois to block a vote on Walker’s measure, which would end most collective bargaining by public employee unions. The measure ultimately passed the Legislature but is now facing legal challenges.

One of the people offering suggestions to Senate Democrats was Blaine Rummel, a spokesperson from the national office of the public workers union AFSCME, also known as the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees.

Rummel sent an email marked “TPs,” for talking points, to Miller spokesman Mike Browne late on Feb. 17 after Senate Democrats had crossed the state line that morning.

Also that day, Rummel had helped coordinate AFSCME’s opposition to the bill in Wisconsin, speaking to media outlets like the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

Rummel sent the talking points to the personal email of Miller spokesman Mike Browne, but the email turned up in an open records request by the Journal Sentinel because it was forwarded on to Miller’s official email account.

“We’re on the job. The fact is, Wisconsin legislators are sworn to protect people’s rights, not take them away. And we are fulfilling our oath,” one of the talking points reads.

Browne said that exchanges like that one were meant to share what different opponents to Walker’s bill were saying publicly. He noted that Senate Democrats were already making similar comments to outlets like the Journal Sentinel before receiving the email from Rummel.

“I think everybody was communicating about what they were saying publicly,” Browne said.

Rummel said in an email that it was natural for a public employee union to reach out to senators who were defending its members.

"These state senators were taking a brave stand to protect the rights of nurses, teachers and EMTs against a well funded attack by Scott Walker and the Koch brothers," Rummel said, refering to the conservative billionaires Charles and David Koch. "Of course we reached out to them, just as we reach out to all allies of the working middle class in Wisconsin and across the country."

Browne pointed out that Republicans also benefited from the support and advice of national figures in mounting their campaign in support of the bill. He pointed to a Feb. 23 meeting Walker held with national political consultant and pollster Frank Luntz.

No real surprise here but the AWOL senators were just the puppets and the national union leaders were pulling the strings.

 

[cr8f]

Election still too close to call-may be a recount. If polling places ran out of ballots or voters were denied them they can request provisional ballots that get counted bhy hand.

Breakdown by county.

Northern counties went for Kloppenburg as did Paul Ryan's county(Rock). Waukesha went big for Prosser.

ADDING

24 of the 26 precincts yet to be counted went for Kloppenburg in their counties so this could change. Right now she is 585 votes behind.

Map of how each county voted

 

[cr8f]

Update - latest AP report has Kloppenburg up by 140 votes with 10 precincts left.

If anyone wins by .5% a recount is free. This could be like the Bush recount or Franken-Coleman.

 

[dfwboiler]

National Union Spokesman sent talking points to AWOL senators

National union spokesman sent talking points to Senate Democrats

By Jason Stein of the Journal Sentinel

Updated: April 5, 2011 1:28 p.m. |(436) Comments

Madison -- The same day Senate Democrats left the state to boycott a vote on Gov. Scott Walker’s collective bargaining bill, a union official from Washington, D.C., provided the Democrats' leader with talking points.

Emails released by the office of Senate Minority Leader Mark Miller (D-Monona) show how Democratic senators sought to explain their unusual action to drive to Illinois to block a vote on Walker’s measure, which would end most collective bargaining by public employee unions. The measure ultimately passed the Legislature but is now facing legal challenges.

One of the people offering suggestions to Senate Democrats was Blaine Rummel, a spokesperson from the national office of the public workers union AFSCME, also known as the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees.

Rummel sent an email marked “TPs,” for talking points, to Miller spokesman Mike Browne late on Feb. 17 after Senate Democrats had crossed the state line that morning.

Also that day, Rummel had helped coordinate AFSCME’s opposition to the bill in Wisconsin, speaking to media outlets like the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

Rummel sent the talking points to the personal email of Miller spokesman Mike Browne, but the email turned up in an open records request by the Journal Sentinel because it was forwarded on to Miller’s official email account.

“We’re on the job. The fact is, Wisconsin legislators are sworn to protect people’s rights, not take them away. And we are fulfilling our oath,” one of the talking points reads.

Browne said that exchanges like that one were meant to share what different opponents to Walker’s bill were saying publicly. He noted that Senate Democrats were already making similar comments to outlets like the Journal Sentinel before receiving the email from Rummel.

“I think everybody was communicating about what they were saying publicly,” Browne said.

Rummel said in an email that it was natural for a public employee union to reach out to senators who were defending its members.

"These state senators were taking a brave stand to protect the rights of nurses, teachers and EMTs against a well funded attack by Scott Walker and the Koch brothers," Rummel said, refering to the conservative billionaires Charles and David Koch. "Of course we reached out to them, just as we reach out to all allies of the working middle class in Wisconsin and across the country."

Browne pointed out that Republicans also benefited from the support and advice of national figures in mounting their campaign in support of the bill. He pointed to a Feb. 23 meeting Walker held with national political consultant and pollster Frank Luntz.

No real surprise here but the AWOL senators were just the puppets and the national union leaders were pulling the strings.

The pure as the driven snow Republicans have never taken talking points from an outside group.It happens, get over it.

 

[Eric Stratton]

Election still too close to call-may be a recount. If polling places ran out of ballots or voters were denied them they can request provisional ballots that get counted bhy hand.

Breakdown by county.

Northern counties went for Kloppenburg as did Paul Ryan's county(Rock). Waukesha went big for Prosser.

Based on this map it sure seems a lot of northern counties went for Prosser.http://media.jsonline.com/images/SUPREME06G.jpg

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

National Union Spokesman sent talking points to AWOL senators

National union spokesman sent talking points to Senate Democrats

By Jason Stein of the Journal Sentinel

Updated: April 5, 2011 1:28 p.m. |(436) Comments

Madison -- The same day Senate Democrats left the state to boycott a vote on Gov. Scott Walkers collective bargaining bill, a union official from Washington, D.C., provided the Democrats' leader with talking points.

Emails released by the office of Senate Minority Leader Mark Miller (D-Monona) show how Democratic senators sought to explain their unusual action to drive to Illinois to block a vote on Walkers measure, which would end most collective bargaining by public employee unions. The measure ultimately passed the Legislature but is now facing legal challenges.

One of the people offering suggestions to Senate Democrats was Blaine Rummel, a spokesperson from the national office of the public workers union AFSCME, also known as the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees.

Rummel sent an email marked TPs, for talking points, to Miller spokesman Mike Browne late on Feb. 17 after Senate Democrats had crossed the state line that morning.

Also that day, Rummel had helped coordinate AFSCMEs opposition to the bill in Wisconsin, speaking to media outlets like the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

Rummel sent the talking points to the personal email of Miller spokesman Mike Browne, but the email turned up in an open records request by the Journal Sentinel because it was forwarded on to Millers official email account.

Were on the job. The fact is, Wisconsin legislators are sworn to protect peoples rights, not take them away. And we are fulfilling our oath, one of the talking points reads.

Browne said that exchanges like that one were meant to share what different opponents to Walkers bill were saying publicly. He noted that Senate Democrats were already making similar comments to outlets like the Journal Sentinel before receiving the email from Rummel.

I think everybody was communicating about what they were saying publicly, Browne said.

Rummel said in an email that it was natural for a public employee union to reach out to senators who were defending its members.

"These state senators were taking a brave stand to protect the rights of nurses, teachers and EMTs against a well funded attack by Scott Walker and the Koch brothers," Rummel said, refering to the conservative billionaires Charles and David Koch. "Of course we reached out to them, just as we reach out to all allies of the working middle class in Wisconsin and across the country."

Browne pointed out that Republicans also benefited from the support and advice of national figures in mounting their campaign in support of the bill. He pointed to a Feb. 23 meeting Walker held with national political consultant and pollster Frank Luntz.

No real surprise here but the AWOL senators were just the puppets and the national union leaders were pulling the strings.

The pure as the driven snow Republicans have never taken talking points from an outside group.It happens, get over it.

That's a weak response, and you know it.Since Walker began this legislation, the left has framed themselves as protecting the middle class. They've painted Walker as a pawn of big business, beholden to their wants and desires.

I think it's now pretty clear that the Senators here are no different. They are beholden to their union bosses, and are only interseted in perserving union power.

My only wish is that the middle class, the folks that are going to pay for this crap either way, would wise up to this. Neither side has our best interests in mind, despite the rhetoric.

 

[cr8f]

As of right now AP has Kloppenburg up by 235 votes with just Lake Mills left to count, but there should be a recount(it isn't automatic). It needs to be requested within 3 days.

The last precinct in Supreme Court race is in Jefferson County

Madison - The results of a single township in Jefferson County should be known by about 1 p.m. Wednesday after local officials finish examining votes from Tuesday’s election.

About 220 votes were cast in Town of Lake Mills - apparently not enough for Justice Dave Prosser to make up the votes he would need to defeat challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg.

The township’s board of canvassers began meeting at 11:45 a.m. to count ballots, said Jane Hintzmann, a deputy county clerk.

The meeting was publicly noticed and it was her understanding that members of the public were on site in the Town of Lake Mills watching the vote counting.

Hintzmann said the township did not complete its work Tuesday because the process of counting both write-in ballots and paper ballots was not done properly. She did not provide details on what steps were not followed correctly.

Some paper ballots were used in the township because officials ran out of official ballots.

After the township’s board of canvassers finishes its work, the results will be announced by the Jefferson County Clerk.

Jefferson County’s board of canvassers will meet Thursday to certify the vote, Hintzmann said.

 

[tommyGunZ]

I think it's now pretty clear that the Senators here are no different. They are beholden to their union bosses, and are only interseted in perserving union power.My only wish is that the middle class, the folks that are going to pay for this crap either way, would wise up to this. Neither side has our best interests in mind, despite the rhetoric.

Don't union bosses work on behalf of union workers (i.e. middle class folks) to advance the interests of union workers?Isn't the argument that unions have benefits and pay exceeding that of the average private worker? Wouldn't that mean that "union bosses" have in fact been extremely effective negotiators and have done an outstanding job bargaining for the rights of union workers?