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Scott Walker WI governor vs the Packers & teachers (1 Viewer)

Have to say too that love him or hate him, (and I know a lot of you love him) Scott Walker is a winner. He has now won 3 major elections in 4 years in a battleground state. He has challenged progressives each time. He kind of is starting to remind me of Richard Nixon (not in ethics- don't get me wrong) in that he seems to be a normal guy, rather dull IMO, without any personal charisma that I can see- and yet the guy keeps winning. I think the Republicans really need to think about putting this guy on the national ticket.
Walker/Haley

Haley/Walker

I'd be good with those. Not sure about Wisconsinites, but at least down here in the south Walker is viewed a a pretty effective governor. He'd get a lot of play down here.

 
Have to say too that love him or hate him, (and I know a lot of you love him) Scott Walker is a winner. He has now won 3 major elections in 4 years in a battleground state. He has challenged progressives each time. He kind of is starting to remind me of Richard Nixon (not in ethics- don't get me wrong) in that he seems to be a normal guy, rather dull IMO, without any personal charisma that I can see- and yet the guy keeps winning. I think the Republicans really need to think about putting this guy on the national ticket.
Walker/Haley

Haley/Walker

I'd be good with those. Not sure about Wisconsinites, but at least down here in the south Walker is viewed a a pretty effective governor. He'd get a lot of play down here.
It would be interesting to see. I don't think Wisconsin democrats have given him much of a fight. On a national level, he'd probably face criticism on his education and experience - he's a college drop-out with essentially zero work experience outside of politics. He has been a politician since his mid-20's His only employment as an adult outside of political office was selling IBM warranties and fund-raising for the Red Cross.

 
Have to say too that love him or hate him, (and I know a lot of you love him) Scott Walker is a winner. He has now won 3 major elections in 4 years in a battleground state. He has challenged progressives each time. He kind of is starting to remind me of Richard Nixon (not in ethics- don't get me wrong) in that he seems to be a normal guy, rather dull IMO, without any personal charisma that I can see- and yet the guy keeps winning. I think the Republicans really need to think about putting this guy on the national ticket.
Walker/Haley

Haley/Walker

I'd be good with those. Not sure about Wisconsinites, but at least down here in the south Walker is viewed a a pretty effective governor. He'd get a lot of play down here.
It would be interesting to see. I don't think Wisconsin democrats have given him much of a fight. On a national level, he'd probably face criticism on his education and experience - he's a college drop-out with essentially zero work experience outside of politics. He has been a politician since his mid-20's His only employment as an adult outside of political office was selling IBM warranties and fund-raising for the Red Cross.
So slightly better than the current POTUS.

 
tommy300 said:
You've got to be under a rock to not see that Burke may have been the most unqualified candidate that either party has ever put up in any state.
Do you think a more qualified D candidate could have won against Walker yesterday?
:yes: I do think so..

There are many independents that are looking for someone to vote for.. The majority have supported Walker the past 3 elections because of the candidate the Democrats put up made you think "What the Hell are they thinking??"

first it was a failed candidate in Barrett( twice) and now Burke.. hmmmmm. maybe the voters in Wisconsin just don't like those with a "B" last name :oldunsure:
Not sure if you are from Wisconsin, but the reason nobody else would run was because the few Democrats with any credibility (Feingold, Kind) knew they had no chance of beating him. All other Dem pols in Wisconsin are certified buffoons. They have as weak a bench as I have ever seen. Even when Johnson is up, unless Kind takes him on, I fail to see who they will put up that will not look like a fool. Plus Walker at the head of the presidential ticket will not help matters for the dems.
Live in Western Wisconsin so my opinion maybe skewed due to very limited news coverage of Wisconsin news here but...

I do think that if the Democrats stopped running "has been" failed candidates ( Barrett Twice) or those tied to what many Wisconsinites consider a failed Administration( Doyle/Burke) then they would have a chance to bring in the independent voters and make it a closer race then the 6 to 7% difference that Walker has won by 3 times now.

As for Walker as the Presidential Nominee.. I'd give it less then 25% chance.. I think Paul Ryan has a better shot then him when it comes to nominees from Wisconsin.. :shrug:

 
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/12/walker-to-jewish-chairman-thanks-and-molotov.html?mid=twitter_nymag

Scott Walker Responds to Letter Regarding Menorah: Thank You and Molotov

While gearing up for a potential 2016 presidential run, Republican Wisconsin governor Scott Walker has been forced to acquaint himself with donor bases whose cultures he's not exactly familiar with. Like Judaism, for example!

Madison.com reports that Walker, the son of a Baptist preacher, courted Jewish donors last spring at the Republican Jewish Coalition spring meeting in Las Vegas. But unfortunately for Walker, all this newfound "common ground with the Jewish faith" is dredging up old memories of a time when he wasn't so familiar with the commonalities of monotheistic religions.

One Wisconsin Now dug up an undated letter that Walker sent in response to chairman Franklyn Gimbel's request that he display a menorah during the holiday season:

Walker told Gimbel his office would be happy to display a menorah celebrating "The Eight Days of Chanukah" at the Milwaukee County Courthouse, and asked Gimbel to have a representative from Lubavitch of Wisconsin contact Walker's secretary, Dorothy Moore, to set it up.

The letter is signed, "Thank you again and Molotov."

 
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/12/walker-to-jewish-chairman-thanks-and-molotov.html?mid=twitter_nymag

Scott Walker Responds to Letter Regarding Menorah: Thank You and Molotov

While gearing up for a potential 2016 presidential run, Republican Wisconsin governor Scott Walker has been forced to acquaint himself with donor bases whose cultures he's not exactly familiar with. Like Judaism, for example!

Madison.com reports that Walker, the son of a Baptist preacher, courted Jewish donors last spring at the Republican Jewish Coalition spring meeting in Las Vegas. But unfortunately for Walker, all this newfound "common ground with the Jewish faith" is dredging up old memories of a time when he wasn't so familiar with the commonalities of monotheistic religions.

One Wisconsin Now dug up an undated letter that Walker sent in response to chairman Franklyn Gimbel's request that he display a menorah during the holiday season:

Walker told Gimbel his office would be happy to display a menorah celebrating "The Eight Days of Chanukah" at the Milwaukee County Courthouse, and asked Gimbel to have a representative from Lubavitch of Wisconsin contact Walker's secretary, Dorothy Moore, to set it up.

The letter is signed, "Thank you again and Molotov."
Yeah, that's pretty bad. I'm simply beside myself with outrage like you. Maybe we should try and recall him again over this? You get the paperwork started and i'll sign it. Glad you brought this to my attention.

 
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/12/walker-to-jewish-chairman-thanks-and-molotov.html?mid=twitter_nymag

Scott Walker Responds to Letter Regarding Menorah: Thank You and Molotov

While gearing up for a potential 2016 presidential run, Republican Wisconsin governor Scott Walker has been forced to acquaint himself with donor bases whose cultures he's not exactly familiar with. Like Judaism, for example!

Madison.com reports that Walker, the son of a Baptist preacher, courted Jewish donors last spring at the Republican Jewish Coalition spring meeting in Las Vegas. But unfortunately for Walker, all this newfound "common ground with the Jewish faith" is dredging up old memories of a time when he wasn't so familiar with the commonalities of monotheistic religions.

One Wisconsin Now dug up an undated letter that Walker sent in response to chairman Franklyn Gimbel's request that he display a menorah during the holiday season:

Walker told Gimbel his office would be happy to display a menorah celebrating "The Eight Days of Chanukah" at the Milwaukee County Courthouse, and asked Gimbel to have a representative from Lubavitch of Wisconsin contact Walker's secretary, Dorothy Moore, to set it up.

The letter is signed, "Thank you again and Molotov."
Yeah, that's pretty bad. I'm simply beside myself with outrage like you. Maybe we should try and recall him again over this? You get the paperwork started and i'll sign it. Glad you brought this to my attention.
One-Legged Sandpiper ‏@OneLegSandpiper ·

It takes real Choots-bah to say #thankyouandmolotov. What a smock.

M Brogunier ‏@mbroguni ·

A real munsch, that Scotty! #thankyouandmolotov

King Kaufman ‏@king_kaufman ·

Dunno but my next band will be the Mazel Tov Cocktails

 
Looks like Walker might be making some noise...

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Scott Walker wows Iowa conservatives at weekend convention sizing up 2016 candidates ‘Go big and go bold,’ the typically plain-spoken Wisconsin governor said Saturday at the Iowa Freedom Summit.Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker waves to the crowd during the Iowa Freedom Summit in Des Moines, where he reportedly drew multiple standing ovatons during his speech.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker appeared to be the early winner of high-profile conservative summit in the early-voting state of Iowa this weekend.

Walker, who has indicated he’s seriously considering a 2016 presidential bid, delivered the line of the weekend, telling an enthusiastic crowd at the Iowa Freedom Summit that the GOP needed to “go big and go bold”

“I think that sends a powerful message to Republicans in Washington and around the country — if you’re not afraid to go big and go bold, you can actually get results,” he said.

Walker spent much of his time on the stage at summit — a grassroots convention designed for Hawkeye State conservatives to get a taste of their prospective presidential nominees — toting his conservative credentials and listing his accomplishments in Wisconsin, including cutting taxes, reducing spending and taking a stand against President Obama’s executive actions on immigration reform.

He also displayed a few moments of passion and uncharacteristic flash that critics of a potential Walker candidacy had said he lacked.

"There's a reason we take a day off to celebrate the 4th of July and not the 15th of April,” Walker said, during one instance in which he pushed on the theme of patriotism. “In America we value our independence from the government, not our dependence on it."

Walker reportedly drew multiple standing ovations and left a stronger impression than many of the other prospective candidates, including Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee.

Earlier this month, Walker sparked chatter that he would likely run for President in 2016 after he expanded his team of political advisers and hired former RNC political consultant Rick Wiley.
http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.2091150

Usually it's the Democrats who seem to be reaching for an alternative, in 2016 it may be the goppers too.

 
I was just thinking how funny it would be if he had to deal with a recall election at the same time as a presidential bid....................

 
He's getting lit up in WI after slamming the door on the Kenosha Casino, and by A LOT of conservatives.

If he does run, he may not carry WI just because of the Casino issue

 
I was just thinking how funny it would be if he had to deal with a recall election at the same time as a presidential bid....................
You think there'd be an attempt at another recall election? The money spent for the first one was dumb enough and you think the Dems are going to put more money down?

How dumb are you?

 
He's getting lit up in WI after slamming the door on the Kenosha Casino, and by A LOT of conservatives.

If he does run, he may not carry WI just because of the Casino issue
He had little to no choice to turn it down due to the Compacts. Unless the Potowotomi were willing to budge, I don't think they were, then he had no say in the matter. Conservatives that are "lighting" him up just don't want to realize this. Walker tried to work the diplomatic way about this, rightfully so, but this was pretty much dead on arrival.

Belling needs to grow up about some things and direct his anger where it needs to go.

 
I was just thinking how funny it would be if he had to deal with a recall election at the same time as a presidential bid....................
You think there'd be an attempt at another recall election? The money spent for the first one was dumb enough and you think the Dems are going to put more money down?

How dumb are you?
I say let them do it! That way we can hopefully rid WI of the Democratic Party altogether.

 
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He's getting lit up in WI after slamming the door on the Kenosha Casino, and by A LOT of conservatives.

If he does run, he may not carry WI just because of the Casino issue
He had little to no choice to turn it down due to the Compacts. Unless the Potowotomi were willing to budge, I don't think they were, then he had no say in the matter. Conservatives that are "lighting" him up just don't want to realize this. Walker tried to work the diplomatic way about this, rightfully so, but this was pretty much dead on arrival.

Belling needs to grow up about some things and direct his anger where it needs to go.
Yeah, Doyle gave away the farm in order to buy votes for him and his Democrat cronies. He and the Democrats sold WI out with these deals and screwed us, just like he tried to screw WI on the Talgo choo-choo trains.

This is all on the Democrats.

 
He's getting lit up in WI after slamming the door on the Kenosha Casino, and by A LOT of conservatives.

If he does run, he may not carry WI just because of the Casino issue
He had little to no choice to turn it down due to the Compacts. Unless the Potowotomi were willing to budge, I don't think they were, then he had no say in the matter. Conservatives that are "lighting" him up just don't want to realize this. Walker tried to work the diplomatic way about this, rightfully so, but this was pretty much dead on arrival.

Belling needs to grow up about some things and direct his anger where it needs to go.
Yeah, Doyle gave away the farm in order to buy votes for him and his Democrat cronies. He and the Democrats sold WI out with these deals and screwed us, just like he tried to screw WI on the Talgo choo-choo trains.

This is all on the Democrats.
I understand that and agree. But blaming Doyle is getting old, he blames Doyle for Wisconsin's problems as much as Obama blames Bush. I'm getting sick of it. Just make it right and do the right thing.

 
I was just thinking how funny it would be if he had to deal with a recall election at the same time as a presidential bid....................
You think there'd be an attempt at another recall election? The money spent for the first one was dumb enough and you think the Dems are going to put more money down?

How dumb are you?
Are you kidding? Say he got enough duck dynastiers to get him through the primary, its him vs Clinton,, all they have to do is get a % of signatures, they wouldn't even need to run a candidate per se.

 
I was just thinking how funny it would be if he had to deal with a recall election at the same time as a presidential bid....................
You think there'd be an attempt at another recall election? The money spent for the first one was dumb enough and you think the Dems are going to put more money down?

How dumb are you?
Are you kidding? Say he got enough duck dynastiers to get him through the primary, its him vs Clinton,, all they have to do is get a % of signatures, they wouldn't even need to run a candidate per se.
I'm afraid to ask but what the hell are you talking about?

 
He's getting lit up in WI after slamming the door on the Kenosha Casino, and by A LOT of conservatives.

If he does run, he may not carry WI just because of the Casino issue
He had little to no choice to turn it down due to the Compacts. Unless the Potowotomi were willing to budge, I don't think they were, then he had no say in the matter. Conservatives that are "lighting" him up just don't want to realize this. Walker tried to work the diplomatic way about this, rightfully so, but this was pretty much dead on arrival.

Belling needs to grow up about some things and direct his anger where it needs to go.
Yeah, Doyle gave away the farm in order to buy votes for him and his Democrat cronies. He and the Democrats sold WI out with these deals and screwed us, just like he tried to screw WI on the Talgo choo-choo trains.

This is all on the Democrats.
I understand that and agree. But blaming Doyle is getting old, he blames Doyle for Wisconsin's problems as much as Obama blames Bush. I'm getting sick of it. Just make it right and do the right thing.
Um, do you understand how Compacts work? Walker's hands are tied unless the Potowotami is willing to agree to new terms of some kind. Precedents have been set and are "in stone". The Governor just can't break them. The court's would overturn anything any Governor does in regards to this unless the Pot are willing to rework the deal.

Can't blame Walker. I'm more worried about this dumb trolley in Milwaukee. The train idea from Milwaukee to Madison to Minneapolis, I can understand and would be in favor of something... but this trolley is just stupid.

 
I was just thinking how funny it would be if he had to deal with a recall election at the same time as a presidential bid....................
You think there'd be an attempt at another recall election? The money spent for the first one was dumb enough and you think the Dems are going to put more money down?

How dumb are you?
Are you kidding? Say he got enough duck dynastiers to get him through the primary, its him vs Clinton,, all they have to do is get a % of signatures, they wouldn't even need to run a candidate per se.
I'm afraid to ask but what the hell are you talking about?
A recall election,, you gotta lay off the weed my friend.

 
I was just thinking how funny it would be if he had to deal with a recall election at the same time as a presidential bid....................
You think there'd be an attempt at another recall election? The money spent for the first one was dumb enough and you think the Dems are going to put more money down?

How dumb are you?
Are you kidding? Say he got enough duck dynastiers to get him through the primary, its him vs Clinton,, all they have to do is get a % of signatures, they wouldn't even need to run a candidate per se.
I'm afraid to ask but what the hell are you talking about?
A recall election,, you gotta lay off the weed my friend.
$$$$$ Who is going to put up the money? You? :lol: Not with your lack of knowledge.

 
I was just thinking how funny it would be if he had to deal with a recall election at the same time as a presidential bid....................
You think there'd be an attempt at another recall election? The money spent for the first one was dumb enough and you think the Dems are going to put more money down?

How dumb are you?
Are you kidding? Say he got enough duck dynastiers to get him through the primary, its him vs Clinton,, all they have to do is get a % of signatures, they wouldn't even need to run a candidate per se.
I'm afraid to ask but what the hell are you talking about?
A recall election,, you gotta lay off the weed my friend.
$$$$$ Who is going to put up the money? You? :lol: Not with your lack of knowledge.
:lol: I just do not see where the need for money comes in. I think paying people to collect signatures would be illegal.

 
I was just thinking how funny it would be if he had to deal with a recall election at the same time as a presidential bid....................
You think there'd be an attempt at another recall election? The money spent for the first one was dumb enough and you think the Dems are going to put more money down?

How dumb are you?
Are you kidding? Say he got enough duck dynastiers to get him through the primary, its him vs Clinton,, all they have to do is get a % of signatures, they wouldn't even need to run a candidate per se.
I'm afraid to ask but what the hell are you talking about?
A recall election,, you gotta lay off the weed my friend.
$$$$$ Who is going to put up the money? You? :lol: Not with your lack of knowledge.
:lol: I just do not see where the need for money comes in. I think paying people to collect signatures would be illegal.
Are you going to pay for the paper, ink, fuel, compiling, etc. of the signatures? Advertising, tv commercials, radio commercials, print ads letting the citizens know of said recall election? FaceBook posts, YouTube videos? Are you going to drive around the state letting people know about a second recall election? Ballot printing?

You don't think much do you?

 
I was just thinking how funny it would be if he had to deal with a recall election at the same time as a presidential bid....................
You think there'd be an attempt at another recall election? The money spent for the first one was dumb enough and you think the Dems are going to put more money down?

How dumb are you?
Are you kidding? Say he got enough duck dynastiers to get him through the primary, its him vs Clinton,, all they have to do is get a % of signatures, they wouldn't even need to run a candidate per se.
I'm afraid to ask but what the hell are you talking about?
A recall election,, you gotta lay off the weed my friend.
$$$$$ Who is going to put up the money? You? :lol: Not with your lack of knowledge.
:lol: I just do not see where the need for money comes in. I think paying people to collect signatures would be illegal.
Are you going to pay for the paper, ink, fuel, compiling, etc. of the signatures? Advertising, tv commercials, radio commercials, print ads letting the citizens know of said recall election? FaceBook posts, YouTube videos? Are you going to drive around the state letting people know about a second recall election? Ballot printing?

You don't think much do you?
A troll event this grand,, I think they could raise a few bucks. Or, maybe even better, they could try to get the state to pay for it, and when Walker denies it, they could claim that Walker is being a dictator and subverting the peoples' will.

 
Are you going to pay for the paper, ink, fuel, compiling, etc. of the signatures? Advertising, tv commercials, radio commercials, print ads letting the citizens know of said recall election? FaceBook posts, YouTube videos? Are you going to drive around the state letting people know about a second recall election? Ballot printing?

You don't think much do you?
A troll event this grand,, I think they could raise a few bucks. Or, maybe even better, they could try to get the state to pay for it, and when Walker denies it, they could claim that Walker is being a dictator and subverting the peoples' will.
Um, sure. Are you going to get this started? Go back to playing WoW or Minecraft.

 
I think there will have to be an announcement when a rock or pop band finally gives their stamp of approval to any GOP candidate using one of their songs.
Aren't most bands "small businesses"? One would think they would be lining up to back GOP candidates.
Yes, they first and foremost make their money by way of quality of their art and personally I like my artists as radical as they can get. IMO to be even a decent artist you have to be radical in the first place.

I love the Murphys btw.

 
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He's getting lit up in WI after slamming the door on the Kenosha Casino, and by A LOT of conservatives.

If he does run, he may not carry WI just because of the Casino issue
He had little to no choice to turn it down due to the Compacts. Unless the Potowotomi were willing to budge, I don't think they were, then he had no say in the matter. Conservatives that are "lighting" him up just don't want to realize this. Walker tried to work the diplomatic way about this, rightfully so, but this was pretty much dead on arrival.

Belling needs to grow up about some things and direct his anger where it needs to go.
Yeah, Doyle gave away the farm in order to buy votes for him and his Democrat cronies. He and the Democrats sold WI out with these deals and screwed us, just like he tried to screw WI on the Talgo choo-choo trains.

This is all on the Democrats.
I understand that and agree. But blaming Doyle is getting old, he blames Doyle for Wisconsin's problems as much as Obama blames Bush. I'm getting sick of it. Just make it right and do the right thing.
Um, do you understand how Compacts work? Walker's hands are tied unless the Potowotami is willing to agree to new terms of some kind. Precedents have been set and are "in stone". The Governor just can't break them. The court's would overturn anything any Governor does in regards to this unless the Pot are willing to rework the deal.

Can't blame Walker. I'm more worried about this dumb trolley in Milwaukee. The train idea from Milwaukee to Madison to Minneapolis, I can understand and would be in favor of something... but this trolley is just stupid.
Yes.

The "Doyle tied my hands with the Potawatomi compact" is a cop-out. He was never going to approve it, hence the reason he waited until after the election.

He pandered to the Religious Right and used the Doyle compact excuse.

Excuses excuses, blah blah blah

 
Pack... question for you (as well as others if they desire to answer).

If Walker wins the Republican nomination for 2016... will you still vote for him or no?

If your answer is that you will still vote for him, then this issue doesn't hurt him at all. I'd be willing to bet no more than .5% of the people would change their vote on this one issue.

And, the Compact is not an excuse at all. It is what it is. Blame Doyle and blame Potowotomi for not wanting more jobs in the state. The people of Wisconsin would have lost money in this deal so if Walker can spin this issue that way, it can be a win for him. I'd look at something else to go in the Kenosha/Racine area that can bring Illinois money into Wisconsin. What might that be? I don't know off the top of my head but there are many other alternatives.

 
Mario Kart said:
Pack... question for you (as well as others if they desire to answer).

If Walker wins the Republican nomination for 2016... will you still vote for him or no?

If your answer is that you will still vote for him, then this issue doesn't hurt him at all. I'd be willing to bet no more than .5% of the people would change their vote on this one issue.

And, the Compact is not an excuse at all. It is what it is. Blame Doyle and blame Potowotomi for not wanting more jobs in the state. The people of Wisconsin would have lost money in this deal so if Walker can spin this issue that way, it can be a win for him. I'd look at something else to go in the Kenosha/Racine area that can bring Illinois money into Wisconsin. What might that be? I don't know off the top of my head but there are many other alternatives.
No. ;)

 
I don't think he has a chance to win the nomination and I don't want him to.. Is to much like Obama, except from the right.. Many will Love him and many will hate him and there will be very few in between.

It is cliche, and a view from a world where the sky is purple and Unicorns still live ;)

But, we need someone who will unite us and not continue to divide us.

Wish someone like Jon Huntsman would jump to the Independent Party and run so we'd have a 3rd party choice who would have a chance.

 
Mario Kart said:
Pack... question for you (as well as others if they desire to answer).

If Walker wins the Republican nomination for 2016... will you still vote for him or no?

If your answer is that you will still vote for him, then this issue doesn't hurt him at all. I'd be willing to bet no more than .5% of the people would change their vote on this one issue.

And, the Compact is not an excuse at all. It is what it is. Blame Doyle and blame Potowotomi for not wanting more jobs in the state. The people of Wisconsin would have lost money in this deal so if Walker can spin this issue that way, it can be a win for him. I'd look at something else to go in the Kenosha/Racine area that can bring Illinois money into Wisconsin. What might that be? I don't know off the top of my head but there are many other alternatives.
I can't think of many alternatives for the large amount of property where the dog track resides, please not another mall. If the compact is the main stop-gap why wait so long to announce you do not support it? I know Iowa Conservatives wrote a petition to Walker signed by 600 Conservatives basically informing him it would be in his best interest to not support the casino if he has aspirations of becoming the presidential nominee for the Iowa Caucaus. I find it interesting that he announced he was against the casino then a day or two later he is speaking to the Iowa GOP and we hear how great his speech was.

I live 15 minutes from the dog track, personally I think the casino would have been a great opportunity for increased jobs within an area that has some very high unemployment. I hope he does not run for president, because if he wins then we have R. Kleefish as our next Governor.

 
Mario Kart said:
Pack... question for you (as well as others if they desire to answer).

If Walker wins the Republican nomination for 2016... will you still vote for him or no?

If your answer is that you will still vote for him, then this issue doesn't hurt him at all. I'd be willing to bet no more than .5% of the people would change their vote on this one issue.

And, the Compact is not an excuse at all. It is what it is. Blame Doyle and blame Potowotomi for not wanting more jobs in the state. The people of Wisconsin would have lost money in this deal so if Walker can spin this issue that way, it can be a win for him. I'd look at something else to go in the Kenosha/Racine area that can bring Illinois money into Wisconsin. What might that be? I don't know off the top of my head but there are many other alternatives.
I can't think of many alternatives for the large amount of property where the dog track resides, please not another mall. If the compact is the main stop-gap why wait so long to announce you do not support it? I know Iowa Conservatives wrote a petition to Walker signed by 600 Conservatives basically informing him it would be in his best interest to not support the casino if he has aspirations of becoming the presidential nominee for the Iowa Caucaus. I find it interesting that he announced he was against the casino then a day or two later he is speaking to the Iowa GOP and we hear how great his speech was.

I live 15 minutes from the dog track, personally I think the casino would have been a great opportunity for increased jobs within an area that has some very high unemployment. I hope he does not run for president, because if he wins then we have R. Kleefish as our next Governor.
If I can interject (admittedly this is a WI issue)...

...I come from one of the first states (I think) to gin up the casino idea and personally I think they're terrible for everyone. Maybe states and communities need to come up with ideas that generate real business and not massive gambling halls where people drain away their assets and time.

Create something, build something, reinvigorate the main street or downtown, whatever the case, but find the best in a community and do that.

 
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Mario Kart said:
Pack... question for you (as well as others if they desire to answer).

If Walker wins the Republican nomination for 2016... will you still vote for him or no?

If your answer is that you will still vote for him, then this issue doesn't hurt him at all. I'd be willing to bet no more than .5% of the people would change their vote on this one issue.

And, the Compact is not an excuse at all. It is what it is. Blame Doyle and blame Potowotomi for not wanting more jobs in the state. The people of Wisconsin would have lost money in this deal so if Walker can spin this issue that way, it can be a win for him. I'd look at something else to go in the Kenosha/Racine area that can bring Illinois money into Wisconsin. What might that be? I don't know off the top of my head but there are many other alternatives.
I can't think of many alternatives for the large amount of property where the dog track resides, please not another mall. If the compact is the main stop-gap why wait so long to announce you do not support it? I know Iowa Conservatives wrote a petition to Walker signed by 600 Conservatives basically informing him it would be in his best interest to not support the casino if he has aspirations of becoming the presidential nominee for the Iowa Caucaus. I find it interesting that he announced he was against the casino then a day or two later he is speaking to the Iowa GOP and we hear how great his speech was.

I live 15 minutes from the dog track, personally I think the casino would have been a great opportunity for increased jobs within an area that has some very high unemployment. I hope he does not run for president, because if he wins then we have R. Kleefish as our next Governor.
If I can interject (admittedly this is a WI issue)...

...I come from one of the first states (I think) to gin up the casino idea and personally I think they're terrible for everyone. Maybe states and communities need to come up with ideas that generate real business and not massive gambling halls where people drain away their assets and time.

Create something, build something, reinvigorate the main street or downtown, whatever the case, but find the best in a community and do that.
Agreed, unfortunately the state "sold its soul" for the gambling dollar years ago, building 5 dog tracks as well as casinos throughout the state. Now it is a where do we go from here, we have this large property just sitting there with only one use as it stands. To convert this into something else will need significant amount of money, some if which will end up being state and local tax benefits to build. This was a great opportunity to put vacant land to good use. My understanding is now that this casino is not going through one will be built accross the border in Illinois.

Again I am disappointed in the timing of the announcement, just before his big Iowa speech for his forthcoming preidential run.

 

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