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Seahawks Michael Bennett threatened by police (1 Viewer)
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JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
Maybe he was scared of getting shot? ? You make it sound like he was the only dude running from the club.
Maybe he was scared the cops were going to blame him for whatever was going on inside?
Maybe he is one paranoid dude and he freaked the #### out?
Assuming he was breaking the law and guilty of something is ... weird.
pantherclub
Footballguy
Hang 10
Footballguy
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
also, hasn't the LVPD stated that the report of gunshots was erroneous?
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You think it's weird to think that someone running from the cops might be guilty of something?
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
Help me out. Where do I go to get a supreme understanding. As of right now, I only see the NFL saying he has been accused of doing anything actionable and the LVPD saying they are still looking into whether Bennett was involved in some sort of altercation.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
was he the only dude running away from the scene? And isn't it only the cops who are saying "he was running away from the cops"?
Hang 10
Footballguy
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Henry Ford
Footballguy
All possible.
Also possible: he was there with another woman and doesn't want his wife finding out
He was fighting with a drug dealer and that's why the police were called
He was breaking open and stealing from that gambling machine, not hiding behind it
He called the officer a racial slur
He's actually black Jesus and the police are working for Satan.
So many possibilities right now. Once competing statements came out showing he was definitely telling the truth about some of the bad stuff and that the police also had reasons for the arrest, it's time to let an investigation happen.
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
seems like you guys have cracked the case already. good work. LVPD is going appreciate it.
Sweet J
Footballguy
General Malaise
Footballguy
Good read here, which sums up the microcosm of entrenched, preconceived opinions of FFA posters pretty well on both sides.
After details of Michael Bennett’s police detainment in Las Vegas spilled out Wednesday, I’m confident you were shocked, angered and saddened, as I was — as any compassionate human would be.
But here’s what I don’t know. Were you shocked, angered and saddened at the injustice being done to Bennett, indicative of the wider issue of systemic inequality against which he had already been protesting? Or shocked, angered and saddened that, once again, hard-working cops were having to defend their methods in a chaotic, life-threatening moment when it’s impossible to discern who poses a threat?
My strong hunch is that you saw this incident through the prism of your previously held beliefs. People are hunkered down on this issue — as they are on so many issues in our increasingly divided society — and I doubt many were moved to change their opinion. I hope I’m wrong. But it’s like there are two different realities taking place in our world, and each side is dumbfounded that the other isn’t seeing the same one they do.
That’s a scary place to be. Our country is as splintered as I’ve seen it since the 1960s, when the Vietnam War and civil rights inflamed passions from coast to coast. My hope is that Bennett’s experience will inspire some sort of compassion and empathy, along with a desire to come together in search of a solution … but it’s not looking good.
Already you can see the factions digging in,
On Wednesday, Seahawks receiver Doug Baldwin addressed how difficult it is to separate the emotion of the moment from the serious issues raised by what happened in Vegas. He and cornerback Richard Sherman were among the teammates that Bennett reached out to for help in deciding how to move forward.
“My initial reaction was, ‘Let’s think this through,’ ” Baldwin said. “ ‘Let’s not allow our first order of thought, which is based on emotion, to cloud our better judgment.’ Not to say that he was doing anything or saying anything wrong. I just wanted to make sure that his message was going to get clearly across, because we have seen before how the message can get lost in translation. We wanted to make sure that the essential part of his message of what actually happened, the details of what actually happened, and that there weren’t other stories being created. That was very important to us.”
But when asked if he feared Bennett’s message was getting sidetracked over the details and the question of who was right or wrong, Baldwin replied, “The fact you’re asking me says yes. If you’re asking me that question, then obviously.
“Again, my challenge and my encouragement to everybody who’s interacting and engaging with this story, is to be empathetic. I can’t say it any more. I think that’s our No. 1 problem in society, that we’re just not empathetic. I understand everybody has their own political views, their own ideals of what’s right and what’s wrong. But if you put yourself in someone else’s shoes, just for a moment, maybe you might act and think differently than you normally do.
“And same for the other side. If they put themselves in the other side’s shoes, maybe they’d act and think differently as well. But is there a possibility this story could get crossed up with other agendas? Absolutely.”
From my viewpoint, the predominant takeaway is that a truly traumatic experience was endured by Bennett. If you didn’t see that in the video of him lying helplessly on the ground pleading to the cops, if you didn’t hear it in Bennett’s emotional responses at his news conference Wednesday, then certainly you can discern it from the reports of teammates and friends. Defensive lineman Cliff Avril, for instance, said he’d never seen Bennett as shaken and upset as he was in the aftermath of the Vegas incident.
Baldwin could relate, because he said he had something similar happen to him in high school, as did Sherman while at Stanford. It’s an extremely common occurrence for African-Americans — “a day in the life,’’ Sherman said. “I mean, you live in inner city, that is just how it goes.”
Remember, Bennett was innocent, and he knew it, and yet he found himself on the ground, handcuffed, with a weapon pointed at him. What got him into that situation will continue to be debated, but I would never try to minimize how terrifying that would be. When Baldwin says, “It changes the course of your life forever,” I believe it. And it provides the prism through which he and others similarly afflicted, and those with empathy toward them, look at many police interactions.
“Those are extremely traumatizing situations to be in, when you feel like your life is in somebody else’s hands,” Baldwin said. “You truly feel like your life is flashing before your eyes, because you don’t have control of the situation. You have lost all control. I know it’s hard for some people to put themselves in that mind-set or put themselves in someone else’s shoes. It is very hard for humans to be empathetic. But that is my challenge.”
I certainly have respect for the often-thankless job that police officers do, and I’ll be waiting for a full accounting of precisely what went on that night in the tumult of a Vegas casino. We may never get a definitive rendering, however. In the end, I suspect, your processing of what happened in Vegas ultimately will come down to what you already believe.
KCitons
Footballguy
Should I put my head back in the sand? Sounds to me like you want conditional support.
T J
Footballguy
Hang 10
Footballguy
Sweet J
Footballguy
This was the statement:
These types of comments are exactly why things are getting worse, not better.
The ONLY people for whom "things are getting worse" is white people. Black people are finally getting to a place where they don't have to be worried that they can be killed by a mob of whites at any given time. It's been a hard fought 60 or so years to get to this place. But it IS much better.
But black folk aren't so quiet anymore about their displeasure with how things used to be, and how things still are (and need to get better). Now, just because a black person can't be indiscriminately murdered by a white person anymore, doesn't mean there aren't still problems. There are. But they are better.
The statement that gets thrown around a lot is "when you're used to privilege, equality feels like oppression." I like the spirit behind it. When a person says something really silly like "race relations are getting worse in this country" it shows ignorance. We are on a good trajectory. Better than in the 50s and 60s, for sure. Better than in the 80s. But it's not perfect. And it is somewhat dangerous still, because there are a lot of poor angry white people who have seen their economic stability slip through their fingers, have seen wealthy america turn its back on them, and are angry.
Put your head in the sand. Don't. It doesn't much affect me. It's a shame that some people can't see or understand a reality that other people have to live in. But it's human nature I guess.
Sweet J
Footballguy
Yeah, I'm sure there are a TON of black folks who would rather live in 1957 rather than 2017.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
T J
Footballguy
the moops
Footballguy
What exactly are you worried about?ok buddy. I will return to Whitesville USA and not worry about a thing here.
Harry Manback
Footballguy
Cops. Apparently there weren't any gunshots, making it impossible to run from them
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Dedfin
Footballguy
Hang 10
Footballguy
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
There were tons of people fleeing the area. Obviously there was something to flee, whether it was reports of gunshots or whatever. Do you think they were all fleeing the police? It's not a high school kegger.
kentric
Footballguy
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
only the guilty black criminals were fleeing. The rest were exiting in an expeditious and guilt-free fashion.
JerseyToughGuys
Tough Guy
I don't presume to know what is running through a young black male's mind in that situation.He is black after all, so he should have been scared, right?
kentric
Footballguy
Which is beside the point as many people in the casino (including Bennett) believed there was gunfire. Do you expect the police to go into the situation thinking the report of gunfire was erroneous? They go in expecting to be shot at. Which is also why I initially found Bennett's allegations strange. Why would the police just pick out someone who wasn't a suspect/suspicious when they were going into a prospective shooting zone? Especially a guy as huge a Bennett. Logic would suggest otherwise.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Harry Manback
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kentric
Footballguy
Largely agree with what you wrote here. Things are definitely getting better. I think the people who believe it is getting worse are saying so because of the large amount of publicity which has been prevalent on the issue over the past few years (BLM, other).
Harry Manback
Footballguy
And here we were, thinking the downtrodden white trailer man was going to finally get some satisfaction with Trump in office, and they still can't find a safe space where they won't be hurt or made uncomfortable by words.
Hang 10
Footballguy
kentric
Footballguy
The police were called because people believed there was gunfire. It doesn't matter whether there was or not in the sense of how the police handled the situation. When they arrived they believed there was gunfire involved and that is why they detained Bennett (after seeing him hide and then run away from them).
Harry Manback
Footballguy
Obviously anything written by a women is hogwash, as women are inferior, right? RIGHT?
Harry Manback
Footballguy
How did they announce themselves when they arrived?
What would your reaction be if you were minding your own business and police burst into a casino, guns drawn? Is it illegal to remove yourself from a situation like that? And if "people" believed their was gunfire, wouldn't it make sense they'd be fleeing the scene of a potential terrorist attack?
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