Shark move or jerk move? (2 Viewers)

[jon_mx]

So, let me gets this right, you would rather have your whole family stand in a crowded line - making the line longer, and unnecessarily crowded, than say - you guys go find a table, I'll bring the food?

A strange bunch. Does help explain the downfall of America though - intend of utilizing all of your resources efficiently, let's all stand around and do nothing...

Having more people stand in line does not make the wait any longer. Having to find or wait for a table does. It is less efficient.

 

[Norman Paperman]

So, let me gets this right, you would rather have your whole family stand in a crowded line - making the line longer, and unnecessarily crowded, than say - you guys go find a table, I'll bring the food?

A strange bunch. Does help explain the downfall of America though - intend of utilizing all of your resources efficiently, let's all stand around and do nothing...

Having more people stand in line does not make the wait any longer. Having to find or wait for a table does. It is less efficient.

Then go find a table before you get your food. Its not that hard. IF you're too lazy to get a table first, then you get what you get. Allocation of resources my friend - be more efficient and you won't have to wait as long.

I would never get in line for food knowing that I would not have a table. Thats just dumb.

 

[Norman Paperman]

Children of parents who do this usually end up working there.

Children of parents who whine in the corner about life being unfair live at home until they are 30.

hard work >>>>>> life of entitlement

 

[Christo]

Jerk move.

Technically, the tables are for customers and that point, the kids and their parents weren't customers yet.

Link to that law or rule?

Here you go.

No law about being an #######. At least I was smart enough to get a seat in a crowded restaurant.

So did I. Right next to your children. Who's their Daddy now?

 

[Nugget]

Huge jerk move.

I like going to Pei Wei more as they have an employee to prevent this. As you get in line, they give you a table number and prevent the jerks from snagging tables. More restaurants need to employ this system.

 

[Norman Paperman]

Jerk move.

Technically, the tables are for customers and that point, the kids and their parents weren't customers yet.

Link to that law or rule?

Here you go.

No law about being an #######. At least I was smart enough to get a seat in a crowded restaurant.

So did I. Right next to your children. Who's their Daddy now?

No givsies backsies imo. Wife will be with the kids - she's now yours also.

 

[TxBuckeye]

Really obvious fishing. Sad.

It's been a waste since a week ago. Sadly, people bought it.

Sadly, that is what this board has fully become. For every serious poster, there are 5 Normans dooshing up what could have been an entertaining or useful thread.

 

[Zegras11]

I wonder if the poll results reflect those who have kids, and those who don't.

Next time send your wife/gf to hold a table for you.

Don't you think its kinda a tool move to hold a table unused in a busy restaurant when people actually have food and are waiting for a table to open up? I mean it probably took them 10-15 minutes to get through the line, i didn't stick around. So that table sat unused for 10 minutes plus while people were waiting.

Do people stay and chat when they are done eating? Or is everyone wolfing down their food and leaving immediately?

I have no problem sending kids/wife to find a table at a busy restaurant so we don't stand around later when all the tables are full.

and another table always opens up. This is a non issue.

If anyone has to wait with food in hand while you're still in line and your kid is sitting there it's an issue.

never seen it happen. Another table always opens up and I/we cause no damage.

If another table "always" opens up why do you have the need to hold a table while your kid buys food?

I fell forty feet off a cliff 8 years ago on an ATV. Standing on hard surfaces for more than a few minutes tightens up my back muscles big time. I watch and check to see if I'm actually taking a table from someone and another table always opens up. The only place I ever go to where this is possibly an issue in In N Out.

 

[Zegras11]

No one ever has to break. Always cut ahead of the semi that's going too slow and always has room in front of him.

I do all this all the time and I've never made anyone break ever.

Oh, this is the thread where people make stuff up and tell outrageous lies? I missed that.

You must be the suck at driving. If I spot a semi, the move is gold. If I don't. I just merge over right there.

 

[the moops]

A few places around here, non fast food joints, have a "do not sit until your food is ordered" policy. They have a few signs up. People still blatantly ignore the rule though. Always fun to see management tell them to wait until they order though. See people get all pissy and act like they didn't see the sign or know the rule.

 

[aardball44]

Sherk move. Or, jark move.

 

[jon_mx]

So, let me gets this right, you would rather have your whole family stand in a crowded line - making the line longer, and unnecessarily crowded, than say - you guys go find a table, I'll bring the food?

A strange bunch. Does help explain the downfall of America though - intend of utilizing all of your resources efficiently, let's all stand around and do nothing...

Having more people stand in line does not make the wait any longer. Having to find or wait for a table does. It is less efficient.

Then go find a table before you get your food. Its not that hard. IF you're too lazy to get a table first, then you get what you get. Allocation of resources my friend - be more efficient and you won't have to wait as long.I would never get in line for food knowing that I would not have a table. Thats just dumb.

It is called being considerate and efficient.

 

[Binky The Doormat]

So, let me gets this right, you would rather have your whole family stand in a crowded line - making the line longer, and unnecessarily crowded, than say - you guys go find a table, I'll bring the food?

A strange bunch. Does help explain the downfall of America though - intend of utilizing all of your resources efficiently, let's all stand around and do nothing...

Having more people stand in line does not make the wait any longer. Having to find or wait for a table does. It is less efficient.

Then go find a table before you get your food. Its not that hard. IF you're too lazy to get a table first, then you get what you get. Allocation of resources my friend - be more efficient and you won't have to wait as long.I would never get in line for food knowing that I would not have a table. Thats just dumb.

It is called being considerate and efficient.

Considerate is the key word. WTF is with people these days? There is no doubt that the "me first," entitlement attitude just continues to keep growing. I applaud those restaurants that are setting and enforcing the no seats before food rules.

Nice reflection on our society ...common courtesy has to be enforced.

 

[TxBuckeye]

No one ever has to break. Always cut ahead of the semi that's going too slow and always has room in front of him.

I do all this all the time and I've never made anyone break ever.

Oh, this is the thread where people make stuff up and tell outrageous lies? I missed that.

You must be the suck at driving. If I spot a semi, the move is gold. If I don't. I just merge over right there.

You said you have NEVER made anyone break EVER. Sorry, guaranteed lie.

 

[Zegras11]

No one ever has to break. Always cut ahead of the semi that's going too slow and always has room in front of him.

I do all this all the time and I've never made anyone break ever.

Oh, this is the thread where people make stuff up and tell outrageous lies? I missed that.

You must be the suck at driving. If I spot a semi, the move is gold. If I don't. I just merge over right there.

You said you have NEVER made anyone break EVER. Sorry, guaranteed lie.

Sorry, you're wrong here.

 

[Norman Paperman]

So, meanwhile, you lazy ####s, instead of planning ahead, proceed to hover over everyone while they are trying to eat. Super annoying. You should probably stick to take out - it's more your speed. Eating out is obviously too complicated for you to handle.

 

[The General]

Jerk move.

Technically, the tables are for customers and that point, the kids and their parents weren't customers yet.

Link to that law or rule?

Here you go.

No law about being an #######. At least I was smart enough to get a seat in a crowded restaurant.

So did I. Right next to your children. Who's their Daddy now?

No givsies backsies imo. Wife will be with the kids - she's now yours also.

You sound like you have a lovely family.Do you have your kids run out and save parking spots also?

 

[TxBuckeye]

No one ever has to break. Always cut ahead of the semi that's going too slow and always has room in front of him.

I do all this all the time and I've never made anyone break ever.

Oh, this is the thread where people make stuff up and tell outrageous lies? I missed that.

You must be the suck at driving. If I spot a semi, the move is gold. If I don't. I just merge over right there.

You said you have NEVER made anyone break EVER. Sorry, guaranteed lie.

Sorry, you're wrong here.

No, we both know I'm not. But you've decided that since you threw it out there, you're going to defend it to your last breath rather than admit it was over the top hyperbole and BS. In other words, you're doing the usual FFA thing. That's fine, have at it. No one believes you. But fight the good fight. This thread has become nothing but another turd in the punchbowl anyways.

 

[Norman Paperman]

Jerk move.

Technically, the tables are for customers and that point, the kids and their parents weren't customers yet.

Link to that law or rule?

Here you go.

No law about being an #######. At least I was smart enough to get a seat in a crowded restaurant.

So did I. Right next to your children. Who's their Daddy now?

No givsies backsies imo. Wife will be with the kids - she's now yours also.

You sound like you have a lovely family.Do you have your kids run out and save parking spots also?

that's just silly. I drop them off so they can grab a table while I find a place to park.

 

[jon_mx]

So, meanwhile, you lazy ####s, instead of planning ahead, proceed to hover over everyone while they are trying to eat. Super annoying. You should probably stick to take out - it's more your speed. Eating out is obviously too complicated for you to handle.

No, we are hovering around a bunch of tables with snooty nosed kids picking their noses while their fat-### inconsiderate parents hold up the line for fifteen minutes while they decide what itis they actually want.

 

[The General]

Jerk move.

Technically, the tables are for customers and that point, the kids and their parents weren't customers yet.

Link to that law or rule?

Here you go.

No law about being an #######. At least I was smart enough to get a seat in a crowded restaurant.

So did I. Right next to your children. Who's their Daddy now?

No givsies backsies imo. Wife will be with the kids - she's now yours also.

You sound like you have a lovely family.Do you have your kids run out and save parking spots also?

that's just silly. I drop them off so they can grab a table while I find a place to park.

What a putz your are. Driving needlessly around a parking lot while a good spot is just sitting there waiting for your kids to hold.

 

[Zegras11]

No one ever has to break. Always cut ahead of the semi that's going too slow and always has room in front of him.

I do all this all the time and I've never made anyone break ever.

Oh, this is the thread where people make stuff up and tell outrageous lies? I missed that.

You must be the suck at driving. If I spot a semi, the move is gold. If I don't. I just merge over right there.

You said you have NEVER made anyone break EVER. Sorry, guaranteed lie.

Sorry, you're wrong here.

No, we both know I'm not. But you've decided that since you threw it out there, you're going to defend it to your last breath rather than admit it was over the top hyperbole and BS. In other words, you're doing the usual FFA thing. That's fine, have at it. No one believes you. But fight the good fight. This thread has become nothing but another turd in the punchbowl anyways.

LOL... I take pride in actually creating more room for those behind the semi so they are less likely to brake. Sorry you can't see it. Guess i need AZRon to make a drawing for you.

 

[Insein]

So, meanwhile, you lazy ####s, instead of planning ahead, proceed to hover over everyone while they are trying to eat. Super annoying. You should probably stick to take out - it's more your speed. Eating out is obviously too complicated for you to handle.

No, we are hovering around a bunch of tables with snooty nosed kids picking their noses while their fat-### inconsiderate parents hold up the line for fifteen minutes while they decide what itis they actually want.

This really sounds like the worst imaginable place to eat. No food is worth this hassle.

 

[pollardsvision]

Five Guys doesn't have this problem.

 

[Insein]

Five Guys doesn't have this problem.

Yep. Long lines but there is at least 20-30 tables at everyone Ive been at. Does this hole in the wall burger joint revel in making customers stand around because theyre too cheap to buy more seating?

 

[Glass Joe]

Five Guys doesn't have this problem.

Yep. Long lines but there is at least 20-30 tables at everyone Ive been at. Does this hole in the wall burger joint revel in making customers stand around because theyre too cheap to buy more seating?

This is a problem at chipotle at lunch time too.

 

[Politician Spock]

Five Guys doesn't have this problem.

Gotta admit, there was a ton of available seating at Five Guys the handful of times I went.

Having to pay for unutilized square footage explains why their food costs so ####### much.

Well that and the "free" peanuts.

Oh, and the ridiculous amount of fries they give you.

 

[NutterButter]

At Disney, they don't let you sit until you have your food

 

[Norman Paperman]

At Disney, they don't let you sit until you have your food

Must be new - we went a couple of years ago - kids and Mrs. Paperman went to grab a seat, I went to get the food, just like every other family there - 1 parent getting food, i parent herding kids.

 

[NutterButter]

At Disney, they don't let you sit until you have your food

Must be new - we went a couple of years ago - kids and Mrs. Paperman went to grab a seat, I went to get the food, just like every other family there - 1 parent getting food, i parent herding kids.

This was last year at one of the bigger eateries in magic kingdom

 

[Christo]

At Disney, they don't let you sit until you have your food

Must be new - we went a couple of years ago - kids and Mrs. Paperman went to grab a seat, I went to get the food, just like every other family there - 1 parent getting food, i parent herding kids.

Yeah, it was in response to all of you jerks.

 

[Fariq]

Five Guys doesn't have this problem.

Yep. Long lines but there is at least 20-30 tables at everyone Ive been at. Does this hole in the wall burger joint revel in making customers stand around because theyre too cheap to buy more seating?

This is a problem at chipotle at lunch time too.

This Chipotle seemed to pop up six months ago and now is popular. It is like McDonald's in 1956.

 

[Ignoramus]

So, let me gets this right, you would rather have your whole family stand in a crowded line - making the line longer, and unnecessarily crowded, than say - you guys go find a table, I'll bring the food?

A strange bunch. Does help explain the downfall of America though - intend of utilizing all of your resources efficiently, let's all stand around and do nothing...

Having more people stand in line does not make the wait any longer. Having to find or wait for a table does. It is less efficient.

Then go find a table before you get your food. Its not that hard. IF you're too lazy to get a table first, then you get what you get. Allocation of resources my friend - be more efficient and you won't have to wait as long.I would never get in line for food knowing that I would not have a table. Thats just dumb.

A table full of people not eating in a restaurant is pretty much the opposite of effiency, Copernicus.

 

[Insein]

So, let me gets this right, you would rather have your whole family stand in a crowded line - making the line longer, and unnecessarily crowded, than say - you guys go find a table, I'll bring the food?

A strange bunch. Does help explain the downfall of America though - intend of utilizing all of your resources efficiently, let's all stand around and do nothing...

Having more people stand in line does not make the wait any longer. Having to find or wait for a table does. It is less efficient.

Then go find a table before you get your food. Its not that hard. IF you're too lazy to get a table first, then you get what you get. Allocation of resources my friend - be more efficient and you won't have to wait as long.I would never get in line for food knowing that I would not have a table. Thats just dumb.

A table full of people not eating in a restaurant is pretty much the opposite of effiency, Copernicus.

A line with 30 extra people (including kids) not going to order isnt efficient either.The real problem is that these businesses were not ready to deal with success and if theyre doing this much business for more than a month, its on them to provide adequate accomodations for their customers. If seating is so scarce that one family in a line of 18 saving a seat us such a burden then youre still going to have people standing around with food looking for a seat regardless of those forward thinkers taking them.

 

[mr roboto]

So, let me gets this right, you would rather have your whole family stand in a crowded line - making the line longer, and unnecessarily crowded, than say - you guys go find a table, I'll bring the food?

A strange bunch. Does help explain the downfall of America though - intend of utilizing all of your resources efficiently, let's all stand around and do nothing...

Having more people stand in line does not make the wait any longer. Having to find or wait for a table does. It is less efficient.

Then go find a table before you get your food. Its not that hard. IF you're too lazy to get a table first, then you get what you get. Allocation of resources my friend - be more efficient and you won't have to wait as long.I would never get in line for food knowing that I would not have a table. Thats just dumb.

A table full of people not eating in a restaurant is pretty much the opposite of effiency, Copernicus.

A line with 30 extra people (including kids) not going to order isnt efficient either.

It doesn't take capacity from anyone though. So the line is 40ft instead of 25ft - why does that matter?

 

[aardball44]

So, let me gets this right, you would rather have your whole family stand in a crowded line - making the line longer, and unnecessarily crowded, than say - you guys go find a table, I'll bring the food?

A strange bunch. Does help explain the downfall of America though - intend of utilizing all of your resources efficiently, let's all stand around and do nothing...

Having more people stand in line does not make the wait any longer. Having to find or wait for a table does. It is less efficient.

Then go find a table before you get your food. Its not that hard. IF you're too lazy to get a table first, then you get what you get. Allocation of resources my friend - be more efficient and you won't have to wait as long.I would never get in line for food knowing that I would not have a table. Thats just dumb.

A table full of people not eating in a restaurant is pretty much the opposite of effiency, Copernicus.

A line with 30 extra people (including kids) not going to order isnt efficient either.

It doesn't take capacity from anyone though. So the line is 40ft instead of 25ft - why does that matter?

Don't let those kids anywhere near the order window. Mom and dad decide the kids need the life experience of ordering their own meals; an eternity of indecision immediately ensues. Trust me -- I just walked out of a "single line order" fast food franchise (made famous by a certain Jared) for this exact reason.

 

[Billy Bats]

It's ok when there are two people in front of you and 6 tables open. Get away from me kids and go grab a table. But with so many in line and one table available it is just ruining the system and being a #### in the process.

 

[Billy Bats]

The people who do this are the same ones that zoom up in merge lanes on the freeway during traffic, passing all the cars already on there who are doing 20 mph. Thus ensuring that everyone behind has to brake as he merges in at the last second.

That's actually the proper way to merge, use the entire lane given and merge every other car. It's called a zipper merge:http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2014/05/the-zipper-merge-convincing-motorists-isnt-a-snap.html

I really wish people would learn this.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

I don't know that I have ever been in a situation as crowded as described by the OP, but my family routinely does the "you get the food I'll grab a table" plan. This thread has been an eye opener.

 

[Norman Paperman]

So, let me gets this right, you would rather have your whole family stand in a crowded line - making the line longer, and unnecessarily crowded, than say - you guys go find a table, I'll bring the food?

A strange bunch. Does help explain the downfall of America though - intend of utilizing all of your resources efficiently, let's all stand around and do nothing...

Having more people stand in line does not make the wait any longer. Having to find or wait for a table does. It is less efficient.

Then go find a table before you get your food. Its not that hard. IF you're too lazy to get a table first, then you get what you get. Allocation of resources my friend - be more efficient and you won't have to wait as long.I would never get in line for food knowing that I would not have a table. Thats just dumb.

A table full of people not eating in a restaurant is pretty much the opposite of effiency, Copernicus.

For who? For me -epitomy of efficiency - walk into a restaurant and there are two jobs - get a table, get food. No reason for a group of 5 to all do both things at the same time. One orders, while the other wait for a table. Then when food is ready, table is ready, everyone wins.

Restaurant does not care if you eat standing up or sitting down. If its a capacity issue - that is separate from someone grabbing a table before their order is ready.

And since I assume you will counter with "well the restaurant will lose my business if I have to stand around" Two things: Restaurant is not going to miss you; and two, you have implied that your problem is with someone sitting at at table before they have food - so that your problem is not with having to stand around with your food - because that could easily be the result of the 3 guys in front of you grabbing the last 3 tables. So, if your problem is not standing around with your #### i your hand looking for a table, why abandon the restaurant?

Really the bigger culprit here are you single eaters who are taking up a 4-top table. You want to talk about inefficient. You guys are the suck. Why don't you have any friends?

 

[jwb]

Kids alone at tables should be told there's no Santa Claus.

 

[Ignoramus]

I don't know that I have ever been in a situation as crowded as described by the OP, but my family routinely does the "you get the food I'll grab a table" plan. This thread has been an eye opener.

Clearly if there are plenty of empty tables, grabbing one while someone else orders is not an issue.

 

[Ignoramus]

So, let me gets this right, you would rather have your whole family stand in a crowded line - making the line longer, and unnecessarily crowded, than say - you guys go find a table, I'll bring the food?

A strange bunch. Does help explain the downfall of America though - intend of utilizing all of your resources efficiently, let's all stand around and do nothing...

Having more people stand in line does not make the wait any longer. Having to find or wait for a table does. It is less efficient.

Then go find a table before you get your food. Its not that hard. IF you're too lazy to get a table first, then you get what you get. Allocation of resources my friend - be more efficient and you won't have to wait as long.I would never get in line for food knowing that I would not have a table. Thats just dumb.

A table full of people not eating in a restaurant is pretty much the opposite of effiency, Copernicus.

For who? For me -epitomy of efficiency - walk into a restaurant and there are two jobs - get a table, get food.

Precisely. Good for you, bad for everyone else. Jerk move.

 

[jonessed]

I don't see the big deal. If I walk in with my family generally only one of us stands in line to order. The rest of us sit down somewhere with the kids. There's no point in all of us standing in line.

I don't recall seeing a family saving a table with an article of clothing. That's a good way to lose said clothing.

 

[Zegras11]

Today I did it three times. Passed two semi's in the freeway. No one had to break behind me. Third time I passed a slow moving grandma. Add grandma's to your list.

3-3!! Passed about 50 cars total. No one had to break.

 

[rockaction]

Today I did it three times. Passed two semi's in the freeway. No one had to break behind me. Third time I passed a slow moving grandma. Add grandma's to your list.

3-3!! Passed about 50 cars total. No one had to break.

This is such a jerk move, yet so accurate. Can't stand it. Semi's and grandmas. It's true. They just don't hit the gas pedal fast enough to cause a logjam.

 

[ghostguy123]

So if a few families come in at once using this philosphy, theoretically we can have a restaurant full of people sitting down and not eating while 20 people have food in their hand and nowhere to sit.

This is probably why legitimate restaurants seat you.

It's a shark move cause it gets you what you want faster, and a #### move cause it screws other people who were there before you who didn't want to be jerks to the people who got there before them.

It's efficient for YOU, but royally inefficient for everyone else. It's not really about being smart. This isn't the business world. This would be the kind of practice that gets you locked up in the business world.

That said, not even sure if I would do it or not. Probably depends on how big of a hurry I am in. Everyone is allowed to be a #### sometimes, right?

 

[Insein]

So if a few families come in at once using this philosphy, theoretically we can have a restaurant full of people sitting down and not eating while 20 people have food in their hand and nowhere to sit.

This is probably why legitimate restaurants seat you.

It's a shark move cause it gets you what you want faster, and a #### move cause it screws other people who were there before you who didn't want to be jerks to the people who got there before them.

It's efficient for YOU, but royally inefficient for everyone else. It's not really about being smart. This isn't the business world. This would be the kind of practice that gets you locked up in the business world.

That said, not even sure if I would do it or not. Probably depends on how big of a hurry I am in. Everyone is allowed to be a #### sometimes, right?

Taking advantage of an opportunity gets you locked up in the business world? Lots of felons out there then.

 

[Fat Nick]

I'll be 100% honest...the wife and I do this all the time. I'm also the guy who drives all the way down to the end at a merge. I don't cut people off, but I'll look for merge spots much further down than most will. I pass people on the right hand side if they're lollygagging in the passing lane. I take shortcuts through neighborhoods and parking lots when there's traffic. In general, if it's not implicitly illegal or against the rules, I'll typically do it if it saves me time.

I get why some people are upset...but my basic view is that anyone else could do the same thing. I'd probably ##### a little if I didn't do it and someone else took a table doing it this way. I'd rather take control of what I can control and do it to get my own table. I'm not going to stand in a long line and wait for a table if I could help it. Ultimately, if everyone did this, people would still get tables first-come, first-served. It's no different than if I got my food after you, but skipped condiments and went straight to a table.

 

[Gianni Verscotchie]

If there are no tables, I eat standing up in the aisle with my ### next to your kid's face.