Sherman is a tool (2 Viewers)

[Hang 10]

Why do you think it is that everyone wants to punch Sherman in the face? Anytime in my life that I knew of someone who got that reaction from people, it's been because the guy was a real asswhole. That's not a normal reaction that people should have. At what point will you finally get it?

Sherman was being a real ### after the game when he was asking how the injured 49er players were doing and then he had the nerve to ask one of the 49er players to tell Bowman he hopes he has a speedy recovery. What an ###!People don't seem to understand Sherman has a switch and he's different on the field than he is off the field. The smack talk is part of his game. The Crabtree thing he took a little far because of their history off the field, but he later apologized. That should be end of story but I guess Sherman is the only person in the entire world to ever make a mistake.

Go check out what a rude asswhole he was on a TV interview with Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless. He doesn't switch off the douchiness once he leaves the field.

That was maybe the greatest interview ever. Bayless is the supreme grand leader of doosh bags.Any guy who goes on tv and trashes Stephen Smith and Skip Bayless is a national hero.

Yeah, it was great the way that he stumbled over his words and acted like a nervous wreck talking to Bayless.

 

[CapnJB]

you just get the feeling that Manning and his group of talented WR's are going to make Sherman look

absolutely silly on SB Sunday...

watch how Manning gets him to bite on a pump fake and scores a TD pass..

Manning was 11-16/163 yards/1 TD in the preseason matchup of these two teams..now,granted, he played until the 6:02 mark of the 2nd Q, but those numbers are staggering..Sherman was playing..

Julius Thomas was a beast in the first half of that game..shades of things to come next week..

Weren't the Broncos losing 24-7 at that point?

 

[ImTheScientist]

you just get the feeling that Manning and his group of talented WR's are going to make Sherman look

absolutely silly on SB Sunday...

watch how Manning gets him to bite on a pump fake and scores a TD pass..

Manning was 11-16/163 yards/1 TD in the preseason matchup of these two teams..now,granted, he played until the 6:02 mark of the 2nd Q, but those numbers are staggering..Sherman was playing..

Julius Thomas was a beast in the first half of that game..shades of things to come next week..

I don't have that feeling at all.

Especially considering the Hawks are healthy now and were not in the preseason game. Im going to enjoy seeing Avril strip sack Peyton and the CBs playin press/disturbing Mannings timing. Everything the Hawks do is exactly what Manning hates.

 

[JuniorNB]

you just get the feeling that Manning and his group of talented WR's are going to make Sherman look

absolutely silly on SB Sunday...

watch how Manning gets him to bite on a pump fake and scores a TD pass..

Manning was 11-16/163 yards/1 TD in the preseason matchup of these two teams..now,granted, he played until the 6:02 mark of the 2nd Q, but those numbers are staggering..Sherman was playing..

Julius Thomas was a beast in the first half of that game..shades of things to come next week..

Seattle will have weather on it's side this time. Not saying they still won't beat them, but the Super Bowl being in New York is a Godsend to the Seahawks. Everything has lined up in their favor this season.

 

[ghostguy123]

So let me see...............what Sherman did isn't a natural and acceptable reaction, yet what crabtree did is?

I suppose every time someone is a dik to you (if you even assume that is what Sherman was doing), I guess the natural and acceptable reaction is to put your hand on their face and shove them away??

Weren't some of you talking about how if you did what Sherman did at your job you would get fired? Pretty sure Crabb's offense would get more people fired than someone offering up a sarcastic congratulations.

Crabtree's seems like a natural reaction.

Sherman getting pissed at Crabtree...then turning to mock Kaepernick in response does not seem to be a natural reaction does it?

Then going off screaming how great you are also does not seem to be a natural reaction to what Crabtree did.

Both were poor showings by both players.

Its not that hard to see that, accept it, and move on.

Natural, and illegal. Most places that is called assault actually. Try it at work, see how it goes.

A shove like that is not illegal, nor assault in nearly any case.

Thanks for going completely overboard about it though.

In the workplace, I beg to differ. Like I said, try it out. I am sure there is someone at your job you don't like. Go do that, and make sure people see it. You'll be fine, swear.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Seattle will have weather on it's side this time. Not saying they still won't beat them, but the Super Bowl being in New York is a Godsend to the Seahawks. Everything has lined up in their favor this season.

Don't both teams play in the same weather?

 

[Ghost Rider]

Why do you think it is that everyone wants to punch Sherman in the face? Anytime in my life that I knew of someone who got that reaction from people, it's been because the guy was a real asswhole. That's not a normal reaction that people should have. At what point will you finally get it?

Sherman was being a real ### after the game when he was asking how the injured 49er players were doing and then he had the nerve to ask one of the 49er players to tell Bowman he hopes he has a speedy recovery. What an ###!People don't seem to understand Sherman has a switch and he's different on the field than he is off the field. The smack talk is part of his game. The Crabtree thing he took a little far because of their history off the field, but he later apologized. That should be end of story but I guess Sherman is the only person in the entire world to ever make a mistake.

Go check out what a rude asswhole he was on a TV interview with Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless. He doesn't switch off the douchiness once he leaves the field.

That was maybe the greatest interview ever. Bayless is the supreme grand leader of doosh bags.

Any guy who goes on tv and trashes Stephen Smith and Skip Bayless is a national hero.

 

[JuniorNB]

Seattle will have weather on it's side this time. Not saying they still won't beat them, but the Super Bowl being in New York is a Godsend to the Seahawks. Everything has lined up in their favor this season.

Don't both teams play in the same weather?

I realize that you're one of the least knowledgeable football guys on this site and basically just a Seahawks troll, but I'll try to explain this in a simple manner.....Adverse weather affects a passing team way more than it does a running team/defensive team.

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

 

[ghostguy123]

Why do you think it is that everyone wants to punch Sherman in the face? Anytime in my life that I knew of someone who got that reaction from people, it's been because the guy was a real asswhole. That's not a normal reaction that people should have. At what point will you finally get it?

Sherman was being a real ### after the game when he was asking how the injured 49er players were doing and then he had the nerve to ask one of the 49er players to tell Bowman he hopes he has a speedy recovery. What an ###!People don't seem to understand Sherman has a switch and he's different on the field than he is off the field. The smack talk is part of his game. The Crabtree thing he took a little far because of their history off the field, but he later apologized. That should be end of story but I guess Sherman is the only person in the entire world to ever make a mistake.

Go check out what a rude asswhole he was on a TV interview with Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless. He doesn't switch off the douchiness once he leaves the field.

That was maybe the greatest interview ever. Bayless is the supreme grand leader of doosh bags.Any guy who goes on tv and trashes Stephen Smith and Skip Bayless is a national hero.

I second this. Great interview. Always an early Christmas present to see bayless look like the fool that he is.

 

[JuniorNB]

Why do you think it is that everyone wants to punch Sherman in the face? Anytime in my life that I knew of someone who got that reaction from people, it's been because the guy was a real asswhole. That's not a normal reaction that people should have. At what point will you finally get it?

Sherman was being a real ### after the game when he was asking how the injured 49er players were doing and then he had the nerve to ask one of the 49er players to tell Bowman he hopes he has a speedy recovery. What an ###!People don't seem to understand Sherman has a switch and he's different on the field than he is off the field. The smack talk is part of his game. The Crabtree thing he took a little far because of their history off the field, but he later apologized. That should be end of story but I guess Sherman is the only person in the entire world to ever make a mistake.

Go check out what a rude asswhole he was on a TV interview with Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless. He doesn't switch off the douchiness once he leaves the field.

That was maybe the greatest interview ever. Bayless is the supreme grand leader of doosh bags.Any guy who goes on tv and trashes Stephen Smith and Skip Bayless is a national hero.

I second this. Great interview. Always an early Christmas present to see bayless look like the fool that he is.

Didn't all that anger stem from the fact that Bayless had the nerve to give the opinion that Darrell Revis was a better corner than Sherman?

 

[Ghost Rider]

Why do you think it is that everyone wants to punch Sherman in the face? Anytime in my life that I knew of someone who got that reaction from people, it's been because the guy was a real asswhole. That's not a normal reaction that people should have. At what point will you finally get it?

Sherman was being a real ### after the game when he was asking how the injured 49er players were doing and then he had the nerve to ask one of the 49er players to tell Bowman he hopes he has a speedy recovery. What an ###!People don't seem to understand Sherman has a switch and he's different on the field than he is off the field. The smack talk is part of his game. The Crabtree thing he took a little far because of their history off the field, but he later apologized. That should be end of story but I guess Sherman is the only person in the entire world to ever make a mistake.

Go check out what a rude asswhole he was on a TV interview with Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless. He doesn't switch off the douchiness once he leaves the field.

That was maybe the greatest interview ever. Bayless is the supreme grand leader of doosh bags.Any guy who goes on tv and trashes Stephen Smith and Skip Bayless is a national hero.

I second this. Great interview. Always an early Christmas present to see bayless look like the fool that he is.

Mark Cuban embarrassing him was still far more entertaining. He basically demonstrated how little Bayless knows about basketball.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Seattle will have weather on it's side this time. Not saying they still won't beat them, but the Super Bowl being in New York is a Godsend to the Seahawks. Everything has lined up in their favor this season.

Don't both teams play in the same weather?

I realize that you're one of the least knowledgeable football guys on this site and basically just a Seahawks troll, but I'll try to explain this in a simple manner.....Adverse weather affects a passing team way more than it does a running team/defensive team.

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Sounds like excuses to me. Would playing in a dome would favor Denver? I wouldn't argue that for a second.

You can continue to regurgitate #### you hear from the media or you can think for yourself. Its painfully obvious people are setting up the excuse for the Bronco loss next week.

QQ

 

[JuniorNB]

Seattle will have weather on it's side this time. Not saying they still won't beat them, but the Super Bowl being in New York is a Godsend to the Seahawks. Everything has lined up in their favor this season.

Don't both teams play in the same weather?

I realize that you're one of the least knowledgeable football guys on this site and basically just a Seahawks troll, but I'll try to explain this in a simple manner.....Adverse weather affects a passing team way more than it does a running team/defensive team.

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Sounds like excuses to me. Would playing in a dome would favor Denver? I wouldn't argue that for a second.

You can continue to regurgitate #### you hear from the media or you can think for yourself. Its painfully obvious people are setting up the excuse for the Bronco loss next week.

QQ

Again, I can only explain it. If you don't think a blustery, windy day would benefit the defense over a passing team, then there's nothing anyone could ever say to make you smarter. Sorry.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Seattle will have weather on it's side this time. Not saying they still won't beat them, but the Super Bowl being in New York is a Godsend to the Seahawks. Everything has lined up in their favor this season.

Don't both teams play in the same weather?

I realize that you're one of the least knowledgeable football guys on this site and basically just a Seahawks troll, but I'll try to explain this in a simple manner.....Adverse weather affects a passing team way more than it does a running team/defensive team.

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Sounds like excuses to me. Would playing in a dome would favor Denver? I wouldn't argue that for a second.

You can continue to regurgitate #### you hear from the media or you can think for yourself. Its painfully obvious people are setting up the excuse for the Bronco loss next week.

QQ

Again, I can only explain it. If you don't think a blustery, windy day would benefit the defense over a passing team, then there's nothing anyone could ever say to make you smarter. Sorry.

Last time I checked Offense, Defense, and Special Teams exist. The best TEAM wins regardless of weather. Keep making excuses. It makes you look pathetic.

 

[JuniorNB]

Seattle will have weather on it's side this time. Not saying they still won't beat them, but the Super Bowl being in New York is a Godsend to the Seahawks. Everything has lined up in their favor this season.

Don't both teams play in the same weather?

I realize that you're one of the least knowledgeable football guys on this site and basically just a Seahawks troll, but I'll try to explain this in a simple manner.....Adverse weather affects a passing team way more than it does a running team/defensive team.

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Sounds like excuses to me. Would playing in a dome would favor Denver? I wouldn't argue that for a second.

You can continue to regurgitate #### you hear from the media or you can think for yourself. Its painfully obvious people are setting up the excuse for the Bronco loss next week.

QQ

Again, I can only explain it. If you don't think a blustery, windy day would benefit the defense over a passing team, then there's nothing anyone could ever say to make you smarter. Sorry.

Last time I checked Offense, Defense, and Special Teams exist. The best TEAM wins regardless of weather. Keep making excuses. It makes you look pathetic.

Ok troll. I've already given you way more responses than I should have. Enjoy your mom's basement.

 

[Chaka]

Eh, Crabtree was being a sore loser, but Sherman made it personal on national TV and then went on to proclaim himself king of the NFL. I still say Sherman was a MUCH bigger tool in this scenario.

Really? If Crabtree had acted like the mature, respectful sportsman that everyone wants to see (allegedly) then I think it is reasonable to suggest that Sherman's choke gesture and rant would have never occurred. Sherman tried to be the respectful sportsman everyone in here says he isn't, does he deserve no credit for that?

It's called taking the high ground. Sherman not only stooped to Crabtree's level, he went a couple of notches further and then showed absolutely no remorse until he saw what a doosh it made him look like.

Did he really take it a couple notches further than shoving a player in the face?

Do you honestly think Sherman goes on that rant if Crabtree demonstrates mature and respectful sportsmanship by returning Sherman's gesture?

Yes

No. Still doesn't excuse him.

So let's get this straight...

So Crabtree and Sherman have this ongoing feud dating back to the summer when Crabtree tried to fight Sherman because **** wanted to shake Michael's hand at a charity event. Fast forward to the NFC title game where they are trash talking the entire game and Sherman makes a play that likely ends the game. Sherman sprints across the endzone to catch up to Crabtree to slap him on the ### and congratulate him. Now we are to believe that **** was being sincere and not trying to rub salt in the wound? I wonder why the official flagged Sherman for taunting if he was just trying to tell an opponent "helluva game"?

Might have also had something to do with the choke gesture he was giving to Kaepernick. Yeah, Sherman is a classy guy. A lot to like about him.

Oh, I see! He was trying to congratulate Crabtree but taunt his QB. Sure that makes sense.

Choke gesture came after Crabtree pushed Sherman in the face.

Just sayin'.

Choke gesture came completely unprovoked from Kaepernick.

Just sayin'

It definitely was uncalled for, and he was flagged for it (was Crabtree?), but again I don't think it happens if Crabtree responded like a good sportsman.

And frankly after Kaepernick mocked Cam the week before I am not that sympathetic to him. That was a pretty big ###### move too.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Seattle will have weather on it's side this time. Not saying they still won't beat them, but the Super Bowl being in New York is a Godsend to the Seahawks. Everything has lined up in their favor this season.

Don't both teams play in the same weather?

I realize that you're one of the least knowledgeable football guys on this site and basically just a Seahawks troll, but I'll try to explain this in a simple manner.....Adverse weather affects a passing team way more than it does a running team/defensive team.

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Sounds like excuses to me. Would playing in a dome would favor Denver? I wouldn't argue that for a second.

You can continue to regurgitate #### you hear from the media or you can think for yourself. Its painfully obvious people are setting up the excuse for the Bronco loss next week.

QQ

Again, I can only explain it. If you don't think a blustery, windy day would benefit the defense over a passing team, then there's nothing anyone could ever say to make you smarter. Sorry.

Last time I checked Offense, Defense, and Special Teams exist. The best TEAM wins regardless of weather. Keep making excuses. It makes you look pathetic.

Ok troll. I've already given you way more responses than I should have. Enjoy your mom's basement.

So unoriginal.

 

[Chaka]

Why do you think it is that everyone wants to punch Sherman in the face? Anytime in my life that I knew of someone who got that reaction from people, it's been because the guy was a real asswhole. That's not a normal reaction that people should have. At what point will you finally get it?

Sherman was being a real ### after the game when he was asking how the injured 49er players were doing and then he had the nerve to ask one of the 49er players to tell Bowman he hopes he has a speedy recovery. What an ###!People don't seem to understand Sherman has a switch and he's different on the field than he is off the field. The smack talk is part of his game. The Crabtree thing he took a little far because of their history off the field, but he later apologized. That should be end of story but I guess Sherman is the only person in the entire world to ever make a mistake.

Go check out what a rude asswhole he was on a TV interview with Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless. He doesn't switch off the douchiness once he leaves the field.

That was maybe the greatest interview ever. Bayless is the supreme grand leader of doosh bags.

Any guy who goes on tv and trashes Stephen Smith and Skip Bayless is a national hero.

He didn't trash Stephen A. IMO. It seemed to be all about Bayless and I gotta admit I laughed at the entire exchange even if it was painful at times.

 

[Chaka]

Sherman is no doubt setting himself up to get burned and it will definitely happen at some point. At that point everyone who dislikes him will be brimming with joy and balance will be restored to the universe so until then just enjoy the ride.

 

[Chaka]

Seattle will have weather on it's side this time. Not saying they still won't beat them, but the Super Bowl being in New York is a Godsend to the Seahawks. Everything has lined up in their favor this season.

Don't both teams play in the same weather?

I realize that you're one of the least knowledgeable football guys on this site and basically just a Seahawks troll, but I'll try to explain this in a simple manner.....Adverse weather affects a passing team way more than it does a running team/defensive team.

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

Sounds like excuses to me. Would playing in a dome would favor Denver? I wouldn't argue that for a second.

You can continue to regurgitate #### you hear from the media or you can think for yourself. Its painfully obvious people are setting up the excuse for the Bronco loss next week.

QQ

Again, I can only explain it. If you don't think a blustery, windy day would benefit the defense over a passing team, then there's nothing anyone could ever say to make you smarter. Sorry.

Yes and no. The conditions will impact the Seattle passing game too allowing the Den D to focus more on the run.

Even in poor weather the Denver passing game is still far superior to the Sea passing game so the impact should remain relatively equal.

The Denver D also shut down the New England rushing game (129 YPG & 4.4 YPA to Seattle's 137 YPG & 4.3 YPA) and the weather was not helping them out.

We are also not certain that the weather will be bad at all, cold certainly but we don't know if there will be rain, winds or snow.

And ultimately this is the team that Denver chose to build (knowing that the weather in Denver can also be kind of, y'know, horrible) and they need to sink or swim with it.

To quote the greatest super hero of all time "You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred."

 

[Neofight]

Fix Sports producer claims they cut away from Sherman post game interview because it started to get a little "dangerous"...

http://nfl.si.com/2014/01/23/richard-sherman-interview-fox-sports-erin-andrews/

So bad they're good.

ETA: the "Fix" was a typo, but I can't bring myself to correct it.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Sherman is no doubt setting himself up to get burned and it will definitely happen at some point. At that point everyone who dislikes him will be brimming with joy and balance will be restored to the universe so until then just enjoy the ride.

I pray ol'noodle arm try's to throw over Sherman....INT. He's the best corner in the game, when you try him with any of the sorry WRs the bronco's have thats the results you're gonna get.

 

[JuniorNB]

Sherman is no doubt setting himself up to get burned and it will definitely happen at some point. At that point everyone who dislikes him will be brimming with joy and balance will be restored to the universe so until then just enjoy the ride.

I pray ol'noodle arm try's to throw over Sherman....INT. He's the best corner in the game, when you try him with any of the sorry WRs the bronco's have thats the results you're gonna get.

You're trying too hard

 

[ImTheScientist]

Sherman is no doubt setting himself up to get burned and it will definitely happen at some point. At that point everyone who dislikes him will be brimming with joy and balance will be restored to the universe so until then just enjoy the ride.

I pray ol'noodle arm try's to throw over Sherman....INT. He's the best corner in the game, when you try him with any of the sorry WRs the bronco's have thats the results you're gonna get.

You're trying too hard

Aren't you an eagles fan?

 

[Hoss Style]

Sherman is no doubt setting himself up to get burned and it will definitely happen at some point. At that point everyone who dislikes him will be brimming with joy and balance will be restored to the universe so until then just enjoy the ride.

I pray ol'noodle arm try's to throw over Sherman....INT. He's the best corner in the game, when you try him with any of the sorry WRs the bronco's have thats the results you're gonna get.

You're trying too hard

I think there's something wrong with him, and I'm being serious. Just let him be. Most everything he says seems to be wrong if it's about other teams, and then it's extreme hyperbole if it's about his team.

Thankfully, I've found a lot of knowledgable guys in the Seattle thread who give some good insight to their side of the fence. It more than balances out whatever is going in with this guy (or gal).

 

[sho nuff]

So let me see...............what Sherman did isn't a natural and acceptable reaction, yet what crabtree did is?

I suppose every time someone is a dik to you (if you even assume that is what Sherman was doing), I guess the natural and acceptable reaction is to put your hand on their face and shove them away??

Weren't some of you talking about how if you did what Sherman did at your job you would get fired? Pretty sure Crabb's offense would get more people fired than someone offering up a sarcastic congratulations.

Crabtree's seems like a natural reaction.

Sherman getting pissed at Crabtree...then turning to mock Kaepernick in response does not seem to be a natural reaction does it?

Then going off screaming how great you are also does not seem to be a natural reaction to what Crabtree did.

Both were poor showings by both players.

Its not that hard to see that, accept it, and move on.

Natural, and illegal. Most places that is called assault actually. Try it at work, see how it goes.

A shove like that is not illegal, nor assault in nearly any case.

Thanks for going completely overboard about it though.

In the workplace, I beg to differ. Like I said, try it out. I am sure there is someone at your job you don't like. Go do that, and make sure people see it. You'll be fine, swear.

Well, since you want to go to the workplace...how would slapping the ### of a colleague go?

Its not assault or illegal...just as ridiculous as those being offended by what Sherman did...going overboard with that shove is just as idiotic.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Sherman is no doubt setting himself up to get burned and it will definitely happen at some point. At that point everyone who dislikes him will be brimming with joy and balance will be restored to the universe so until then just enjoy the ride.

I pray ol'noodle arm try's to throw over Sherman....INT. He's the best corner in the game, when you try him with any of the sorry WRs the bronco's have thats the results you're gonna get.

You're trying too hard

I think there's something wrong with him, and I'm being serious. Just let him be. Most everything he says seems to be wrong if it's about other teams, and then it's extreme hyperbole if it's about his team.

Thankfully, I've found a lot of knowledgable guys in the Seattle thread who give some good insight to their side of the fence. It more than balances out whatever is going in with this guy (or gal).

This post is hidden because you have chosen to ignore posts by ImTheScientist. View it anyway?

 

[Chaka]

Sherman is no doubt setting himself up to get burned and it will definitely happen at some point. At that point everyone who dislikes him will be brimming with joy and balance will be restored to the universe so until then just enjoy the ride.

I pray ol'noodle arm try's to throw over Sherman....INT. He's the best corner in the game, when you try him with any of the sorry WRs the bronco's have thats the results you're gonna get.

You're trying too hard

I would hate to see what no effort at all looks like. Or perhaps I would love to see it?

 

[MaxThreshold]

Sherman is no doubt setting himself up to get burned and it will definitely happen at some point. At that point everyone who dislikes him will be brimming with joy and balance will be restored to the universe so until then just enjoy the ride.

I pray ol'noodle arm try's to throw over Sherman....INT. He's the best corner in the game, when you try him with any of the sorry WRs the bronco's have thats the results you're gonna get.

You're trying too hard

I think there's something wrong with him, and I'm being serious. Just let him be. Most everything he says seems to be wrong if it's about other teams, and then it's extreme hyperbole if it's about his team.

Thankfully, I've found a lot of knowledgable guys in the Seattle thread who give some good insight to their side of the fence. It more than balances out whatever is going in with this guy (or gal).

Pretty sure ITS is a "she", and I think she's about 7 or 8 years old.

 

[Somebody]

Didn't see this posted, but admittedly didn't look hard: http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/10346713/richard-sherman-seattle-seahawks-fined-7875-taunting-nfc-championship-game

 

[biju]

Didn't see this posted, but admittedly didn't look hard: http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/10346713/richard-sherman-seattle-seahawks-fined-7875-taunting-nfc-championship-game

Fox news should pay that fine for him.

 

[The Kerminator]

Didn't see this posted, but admittedly didn't look hard: http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/10346713/richard-sherman-seattle-seahawks-fined-7875-taunting-nfc-championship-game

But how can they fine a man who was being sincere in his congrats?

 

[Chaka]

Didn't see this posted, but admittedly didn't look hard: http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/10346713/richard-sherman-seattle-seahawks-fined-7875-taunting-nfc-championship-game

But how can they fine a man who was being sincere in his congrats?

Stay gold Ponyboy

 

[monessen]

They can eliminate extra points, so fining a guy for comments evidently is no big deal. A Cowboys DLman tugged Peyton's facemask and was fined. That is also rare.

As for Sherman, he is very shrewd. He fixated on "thug" as a code for the n-word. I didn't actually count the total of characterizations of him as a thug compared to "punk." My take is he was referred to much more often as a punk. But altering the narrative as a referendum on race and such is clever.

It doesn't mean he isn't a punk. A Stanford degree doesn't delete that personality trait.

 

[Gandalf the Grey]

They can eliminate extra points, so fining a guy for comments evidently is no big deal. A Cowboys DLman tugged Peyton's facemask and was fined. That is also rare.

As for Sherman, he is very shrewd. He fixated on "thug" as a code for the n-word. I didn't actually count the total of characterizations of him as a thug compared to "punk." My take is he was referred to much more often as a punk. But altering the narrative as a referendum on race and such is clever.

It doesn't mean he isn't a punk. A Stanford degree doesn't delete that personality trait.

This doesn't make any sense. He fixated on "thug" as code for the n-word because many people-myself included-believe it is. A "thug" is a violent threatening criminal. Sherman is not a violent criminal so why would people call him that based on his outburst?

Because it fits the narrative of some whites to portray assertive young black males as threatening, without the cost of using the n-word and being explicitly racist.

"Thug" and "punk" have different connotations. A punk can be anyone, it connotes a wiseass or someone with no respect for authority. White kids are called "punks" all the time. I've only seen "thug" used for a white person in limited contexts, for example, mafia henchman,or say, Russian gangsters. In contrast, there are posters on this board who were calling Colin Kaepernick a "thug" based on nothing other than his dress.

It doesn't matter whether "punk" was used more frequently to describe Sherman after his outburst. That wasn't the objectionable word. So he didn't "alter" any narrative

 

[monessen]

They can eliminate extra points, so fining a guy for comments evidently is no big deal. A Cowboys DLman tugged Peyton's facemask and was fined. That is also rare.

As for Sherman, he is very shrewd. He fixated on "thug" as a code for the n-word. I didn't actually count the total of characterizations of him as a thug compared to "punk." My take is he was referred to much more often as a punk. But altering the narrative as a referendum on race and such is clever.

It doesn't mean he isn't a punk. A Stanford degree doesn't delete that personality trait.

This doesn't make any sense. He fixated on "thug" as code for the n-word because many people-myself included-believe it is. A "thug" is a violent threatening criminal. Sherman is not a violent criminal so why would people call him that based on his outburst?

Because it fits the narrative of some whites to portray assertive young black males as threatening, without the cost of using the n-word and being explicitly racist.

"Thug" and "punk" have different connotations. A punk can be anyone, it connotes a wiseass or someone with no respect for authority. White kids are called "punks" all the time. I've only seen "thug" used for a white person in limited contexts, for example, mafia henchman,or say, Russian gangsters. In contrast, there are posters on this board who were calling Colin Kaepernick a "thug" based on nothing other than his dress.

It doesn't matter whether "punk" was used more frequently to describe Sherman after his outburst. That wasn't the objectionable word. So he didn't "alter" any narrative

Yes,he did. And we are not disagreeing. Sherman, in my estimation, is no thug and the word does connote contemporary code as a subtle racial slur. We concur. My point is he shifted the focus from his unfortunate emotional outburst in the heat of the moment to some separate issue earning potential exoneration by citing his critics as racist ("thug"). It was a predictable strategy; the critics are in the wrong and don't know the real him. But his actions in this mess and a few prior instances qualify him as punk-like and arrogant ("I'm the best corner in the game."). How often is irrelevant---that is true. To some extent, his attitude comes with the territory of the role he plays in the defense.

 

[monessen]

And I'd add narcissistic to the description since he reacted like the win was about him and how dare a QB throw to a guy Sherman is covering?

 

[Scoresman]

I hate how the fact that he went to Stanford is used as a counter to people calling him classless. I know a lot of people who went to Stanford and they are all jerks. Everyone who went to Stanford is an #######. It's like people send their kids to Stanford just to become #######s.

 

[Neofight]

This thread is awesome. The hate for the Cardinal is an unexpected twist.

 

[Chaka]

I hate how the fact that he went to Stanford is used as a counter to people calling him classless. I know a lot of people who went to Stanford and they are all jerks. Everyone who went to Stanford is an #######. It's like people send their kids to Stanford just to become #######s.

Going to Stanford is a counter to the notion that he is a stupid...uhhh...what is the preferred nomenclature? It's all so confusing.

 

[ghostguy123]

So let me see...............what Sherman did isn't a natural and acceptable reaction, yet what crabtree did is?

I suppose every time someone is a dik to you (if you even assume that is what Sherman was doing), I guess the natural and acceptable reaction is to put your hand on their face and shove them away??

Weren't some of you talking about how if you did what Sherman did at your job you would get fired? Pretty sure Crabb's offense would get more people fired than someone offering up a sarcastic congratulations.

Crabtree's seems like a natural reaction.

Sherman getting pissed at Crabtree...then turning to mock Kaepernick in response does not seem to be a natural reaction does it?

Then going off screaming how great you are also does not seem to be a natural reaction to what Crabtree did.

Both were poor showings by both players.

Its not that hard to see that, accept it, and move on.

Natural, and illegal. Most places that is called assault actually. Try it at work, see how it goes.

A shove like that is not illegal, nor assault in nearly any case.

Thanks for going completely overboard about it though.

In the workplace, I beg to differ. Like I said, try it out. I am sure there is someone at your job you don't like. Go do that, and make sure people see it. You'll be fine, swear.

Well, since you want to go to the workplace...how would slapping the ### of a colleague go?

Its not assault or illegal...just as ridiculous as those being offended by what Sherman did...going overboard with that shove is just as idiotic.

Right. The whole thing has been blown out of proportion. It's f'ING football.

 

[Hang 10]

If Sherman got fined almost 8k, how much did Crabtree get fined for starting the whole thing?

 

[Hoss Style]

Sherman is no doubt setting himself up to get burned and it will definitely happen at some point. At that point everyone who dislikes him will be brimming with joy and balance will be restored to the universe so until then just enjoy the ride.

I pray ol'noodle arm try's to throw over Sherman....INT. He's the best corner in the game, when you try him with any of the sorry WRs the bronco's have thats the results you're gonna get.

You're trying too hard

I think there's something wrong with him, and I'm being serious. Just let him be. Most everything he says seems to be wrong if it's about other teams, and then it's extreme hyperbole if it's about his team.

Thankfully, I've found a lot of knowledgable guys in the Seattle thread who give some good insight to their side of the fence. It more than balances out whatever is going in with this guy (or gal).

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Yeah, you have a point, Big. Let me explain, though. I enjoy reading the forums over all, and though I don't respond to many of his posts, I do enjoy the silly banter that goes back and forth between him and some others many times.

It's kind of like watching the dude out on the basketball court during a pick-up game who obviously thinks he's way better than he actually is, and he's talking smack to everyone, fouling, shooting up bricks. When that guy gets dunked on hard - it's one of the most enjoyable things to watch.

Basically, I like watching him get dunked on by other posters. Maybe that's wrong of me. But I must admit I get a kick out of it.

 

[Hoss Style]

They can eliminate extra points, so fining a guy for comments evidently is no big deal. A Cowboys DLman tugged Peyton's facemask and was fined. That is also rare.

As for Sherman, he is very shrewd. He fixated on "thug" as a code for the n-word. I didn't actually count the total of characterizations of him as a thug compared to "punk." My take is he was referred to much more often as a punk. But altering the narrative as a referendum on race and such is clever.

It doesn't mean he isn't a punk. A Stanford degree doesn't delete that personality trait.

This doesn't make any sense. He fixated on "thug" as code for the n-word because many people-myself included-believe it is. A "thug" is a violent threatening criminal. Sherman is not a violent criminal so why would people call him that based on his outburst?

Because it fits the narrative of some whites to portray assertive young black males as threatening, without the cost of using the n-word and being explicitly racist.

"Thug" and "punk" have different connotations. A punk can be anyone, it connotes a wiseass or someone with no respect for authority. White kids are called "punks" all the time. I've only seen "thug" used for a white person in limited contexts, for example, mafia henchman,or say, Russian gangsters. In contrast, there are posters on this board who were calling Colin Kaepernick a "thug" based on nothing other than his dress.

It doesn't matter whether "punk" was used more frequently to describe Sherman after his outburst. That wasn't the objectionable word. So he didn't "alter" any narrative

Yes,he did. And we are not disagreeing. Sherman, in my estimation, is no thug and the word does connote contemporary code as a subtle racial slur. We concur. My point is he shifted the focus from his unfortunate emotional outburst in the heat of the moment to some separate issue earning potential exoneration by citing his critics as racist ("thug"). It was a predictable strategy; the critics are in the wrong and don't know the real him. But his actions in this mess and a few prior instances qualify him as punk-like and arrogant ("I'm the best corner in the game."). How often is irrelevant---that is true. To some extent, his attitude comes with the territory of the role he plays in the defense.

This is a great point and absolutely correct.

I, like you, think it's silly to think someone is a "thug" or "punk" for a heated rant minutes after a huge play in the biggest game of his life.

Yet, he created a shield with the "race card". After the deflection the target was moved a bit. It was a great move. Did he do it on purpose? Did he accidentally do it and he only brought it up because the word really bothered him? Or both? Sherman being a smart man, I tend to think he knew exactly what he was doing.

Considering the entire issue was being overblown, I think it was a slick move to put the onus back on the attacker - the media. The media rushed in, like it normally does, without thinking it through, and Sherman hit them with a parry that set them on their heels a bit.

The more I think about it, the more I like it.

 

[sho nuff]

So let me see...............what Sherman did isn't a natural and acceptable reaction, yet what crabtree did is?

I suppose every time someone is a dik to you (if you even assume that is what Sherman was doing), I guess the natural and acceptable reaction is to put your hand on their face and shove them away??

Weren't some of you talking about how if you did what Sherman did at your job you would get fired? Pretty sure Crabb's offense would get more people fired than someone offering up a sarcastic congratulations.

Crabtree's seems like a natural reaction.

Sherman getting pissed at Crabtree...then turning to mock Kaepernick in response does not seem to be a natural reaction does it?

Then going off screaming how great you are also does not seem to be a natural reaction to what Crabtree did.

Both were poor showings by both players.

Its not that hard to see that, accept it, and move on.

Natural, and illegal. Most places that is called assault actually. Try it at work, see how it goes.

A shove like that is not illegal, nor assault in nearly any case.

Thanks for going completely overboard about it though.

In the workplace, I beg to differ. Like I said, try it out. I am sure there is someone at your job you don't like. Go do that, and make sure people see it. You'll be fine, swear.

Well, since you want to go to the workplace...how would slapping the ### of a colleague go?

Its not assault or illegal...just as ridiculous as those being offended by what Sherman did...going overboard with that shove is just as idiotic.

Right. The whole thing has been blown out of proportion. It's f'ING football.

Agreed...the reaction by some is getting worse than the comments he made in the first place. Though, he also stirred it up a bit adding the race part to it later. (though, I have no doubt he saw idiotic messages to him after the comments that were probably quite racist).

 

[Bayhawks]

Agreed...the reaction by some is getting worse than the comments he made in the first place. Though, he also stirred it up a bit adding the race part to it later. (though, I have no doubt he saw idiotic messages to him after the comments that were probably quite racist).

The idea that Sherman added race to the discussion is a little silly. I'd say the racist jerks calling him the n word, monkey, gorilla and others were responsible for adding race to the discussion. Sherman just brought it up, and for some reason a lot of people don't want to hear about it (or want to blame the discussion on Sherman.)

Why do you think that is?

Because Sherman is hard to like, unless you are a Seahawk fan.

He is one of the (if not THE) best cornerbacks in the game, but his attitude is not generally appreciated. TO was the best (or one of the best) WRs in the game for many years, yet many people detested him. Most people like our stars to be humble & gracious in victory, not shout "I'm the best, don't try to test me!" Even if it is true, or at least arguable.

So when he tries to defend himself, or shift the attention (whichever you feel he is doing), he gets the blame. It's the nature of the role he's playing (and I do think it's a role, because he seems to be very intelligent; intelligent enough to know that this kind of attitude/behavior is not generally well-received).

 

[cacksman]

16 pages in 5 days, and this is par for the course for every forum/news outlet in the country. Sherman is winning and those that keep bringing him up and trying to knock him are just making his margin of victory even higher.

 

[toxic]

I hate how the fact that he went to Stanford is used as a counter to people calling him classless. I know a lot of people who went to Stanford and they are all jerks. Everyone who went to Stanford is an #######. It's like people send their kids to Stanford just to become #######s.

Spot on. Absolutes are always true.* I quickly perused a list of all 211,000 alumni and couldn't find a single exception to your statement. Scoresman, I presume you were on that list somewhere?

* Irony intended.

 

[MaxThreshold]

I hate how the fact that he went to Stanford is used as a counter to people calling him classless. I know a lot of people who went to Stanford and they are all jerks. Everyone who went to Stanford is an #######. It's like people send their kids to Stanford just to become #######s.

Spot on. Absolutes are always true.* I quickly perused a list of all 211,000 alumni and couldn't find a single exception to your statement. Scoresman, I presume you were on that list somewhere?

* Irony intended.

I believe he's listed on it twice.

 

[ghostguy123]

Wait, are some of you saying the word "thug" doesnt have some racial connotation to it?

I don't think Sherman made it a race issue. All the people criticizing him did that all on their own, and he just happened to point it out. Is he wrong for doing so?

I have seen guys play the race card and try to act like the victim. This...............is not one of those cases. It's not like he is saying that people are all over his case for what he did because he is black. He is simply referring to the comments made about him afterwards.