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Should ESPN do anything? Jason Kelce smashes student's phone (1 Viewer)

Should ESPN do anything?


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I'm a big proponent in we need to institute more punches to the mouth.

That's interesting too.

Let's say Kelce had punched the student in the mouth and broken his jaw.

What do you think ESPN should do in that situation?
Nothing.
We have a legal system for a reason. This isn't rape or assault with a weapon or breaking and entering of DV..........this was some DB being a DB and would have deserved a punch in the face.
ESPN SHOULD back their guys in that case
Would they? Probably not
 
I'm a big proponent in we need to institute more punches to the mouth.

That's interesting too.

Let's say Kelce had punched the student in the mouth and broken his jaw.

What do you think ESPN should do in that situation?
They’d at least suspend him pending criminal investigations. If Kelce punched a kid, while the internet would cheer that as well, he’d be in serious trouble. Glad he showed some composure.
How old was the "kid"?
 
I'm a big proponent in we need to institute more punches to the mouth.

That's interesting too.

Let's say Kelce had punched the student in the mouth and broken his jaw.

What do you think ESPN should do in that situation?
Joe, You shouldn't go here. This thread will devolve into all kinds of "woulda, coulda, shoulda" all by itself.

You may be right. I did think it was interesting though about being a big proponent of more punches in the mouth.
You can help set the level of discussion here.
This is High school/college nonsense. Your demo is men in their 40's, 50's 60's+.
I don't think most of us are here for this nonsense.
As a man in my 50s if I did something like this kid there would be a punch in the mouth. And then my father would probably have told me to stop being an ******* and you won't get punched in the mouth. People nowadays have free reign of acting like aholes with no repercussions other than some meaningless verbal condemnation. Then the "kid" will just do it again :shrug:
 
I'm a big proponent in we need to institute more punches to the mouth.

That's interesting too.

Let's say Kelce had punched the student in the mouth and broken his jaw.

What do you think ESPN should do in that situation?

What should they do: Nothing

But bigger question - why are we adding hypotheticals here?

Let's say the kid (do we even know he is a student?) pulled a gun, and Kelce knocked it out of the kid's hands, while the crowd subdued the kid.

What do you think ESPN should do in that situation?

I wonder how many would agree with you that ESPN should do nothing if Kelce were to punch a heckler in the mouth and break his jaw?
I'm anti heckler. I was even partially on Blount side after his game in college. Just because you bought a ticket doesn't give you the right to be a complete tool bag. Always felt this way. And it's worse now with socials.

*I don't mind harmless clean creative heckling

Screaming at some dude that he sucks xyz is just obnoxious

So I would hope ESPN did nothing and let law handle it which I hope gets thrown out

*If I'm off the clock and get in a fight should my employer suspend me?
 
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Did I miss something recently in the news about Travis Kelce?

Travis Kelce is not gay, correct?

If that is the case, was Jason Kelce taking offense at the inference that Travis is gay, rather than the use of the homophobic slur?

I don't see it as any type of defense of gay men as some are spinning it.
 
Did I miss something recently in the news about Travis Kelce?

Travis Kelce is not gay, correct?

If that is the case, was Jason Kelce taking offense at the inference that Travis is gay, rather than the use of the homophobic slur?

I don't see it as any type of defense of gay men as some are spinning it.
Well all the alleged gay people on Twitter are supporting Kelce.

And I think he was annoyed at just getting followed around from this dork.
 
Did I miss something recently in the news about Travis Kelce?

Travis Kelce is not gay, correct?

If that is the case, was Jason Kelce taking offense at the inference that Travis is gay, rather than the use of the homophobic slur?

I don't see it as any type of defense of gay men as some are spinning it.
Well all the alleged gay people on Twitter are supporting Kelce.
Perhaps they haven't given it that much thought.
 
I'm a big proponent in we need to institute more punches to the mouth.

That's interesting too.

Let's say Kelce had punched the student in the mouth and broken his jaw.

What do you think ESPN should do in that situation?
I think ESPN should ask the kid's parents if they can pinpoint how and where they failed as a parent to raise a child who thinks its ok to use homophobic slurs and act like this.
 
Just watched the full video. Kelce was just minding his own business walking to the game wasn't even on the clock. Why would EsPN even have a say?
Joe makes these posts in here from time to time to farm engagement and hope for provocative discussion. Since the politics forum is closed, he uses threads like this. It's a pattern.
Oh knock it off.

Joe isn't looking for clicks, he's being intellectually honest and is curious for people's reaction.
 
Did I miss something recently in the news about Travis Kelce?

Travis Kelce is not gay, correct?

If that is the case, was Jason Kelce taking offense at the inference that Travis is gay, rather than the use of the homophobic slur?

I don't see it as any type of defense of gay men as some are spinning it.
I’ll go out on a limb here, and guess the provocateur wasn’t trying to make a reasoned argument about Kelce’s sexual orientation.
As a second leap of faith, I'm gonna guess Jason Kelce didn't smash that phone in defense of the LGBT+ community.
 
Can we just take a moment to address the idiocy and ridiculousness of calling Travis Kelce a slur for a gay person for dating the most successful woman on the planet? Make that make sense to me.
well there's a political element to this, (that we're not allowed to discuss here)
No there isn't. Not everything involves politics
 
Just watched the full video. Kelce was just minding his own business walking to the game wasn't even on the clock. Why would EsPN even have a say?
Joe makes these posts in here from time to time to farm engagement and hope for provocative discussion. Since the politics forum is closed, he uses threads like this. It's a pattern.
Agree 100%.

It is hypocrisy at it’s finest. And then takes away a stinking laugh emoji to prove some kind of point.

Just don’t get it sometimes.
 
Absolutely no suspension. He was being harassed and only busted the guy's phone. If he had put his hands on the kid then that would have been a different story. I thought he showed great restraint. Sadly he'll probably have to buy the kid a new phone though. Well worth it imo.
 
I'm interested in what the public thinks ESPN should do
I don't think people care if a real life troll gets his phone smashed by someone they have no opinion of.

Kelce? Everyone's favorite beer-slamming teddy bear? I'd be shocked if there's any pressure whatsoever.

All the meathead sports media will love it, and they're especially online. Who's gonna be mad at Kelce? Maybe that little turd's mom.
 
I'm a big proponent in we need to institute more punches to the mouth.

That's interesting too.

Let's say Kelce had punched the student in the mouth and broken his jaw.

What do you think ESPN should do in that situation?
Joe, You shouldn't go here. This thread will devolve into all kinds of "woulda, coulda, shoulda" all by itself.

You may be right. I did think it was interesting though about being a big proponent of more punches in the mouth.
You can help set the level of discussion here.
This is High school/college nonsense. Your demo is men in their 40's, 50's 60's+.
I don't think most of us are here for this nonsense.
As a man in my 50s if I did something like this kid there would be a punch in the mouth. And then my father would probably have told me to stop being an ******* and you won't get punched in the mouth. People nowadays have free reign of acting like aholes with no repercussions other than some meaningless verbal condemnation. Then the "kid" will just do it again :shrug:
Agreed.

Had Kelce punched him in the face and broken his nose, I would have said that Kelce went too far, but I also wouldn't have felt the least bit sorry for the "kid."
 
I'm a big proponent in we need to institute more punches to the mouth.

That's interesting too.

Let's say Kelce had punched the student in the mouth and broken his jaw.

What do you think ESPN should do in that situation?
They’d at least suspend him pending criminal investigations. If Kelce punched a kid, while the internet would cheer that as well, he’d be in serious trouble. Glad he showed some composure.
How old was the "kid"?
He was a college student - but even punching an adult in the face can land you in legal trouble.
 
I find it interesting how many posters are saying the person should have been punched in the face over a silly word
 
Can we just take a moment to address the idiocy and ridiculousness of calling Travis Kelce a slur for a gay person for dating the most successful woman on the planet? Make that make sense to me.
It’s probably not like this where you live but here in the East some college kids will drink alcoholic beverages.
 
I find it interesting how many posters are saying the person should have been punched in the face over a silly word
Some people have to learn the hard way that being respectful is a good thing. Shrug. Not saying he needs to be KO’ed or have his jaw broken but sometimes immediate consequences are the best kind.
 
I wonder how the response to this would be if it were Tyreek Hill or Aaron Rodgers who smashed the phone?
I would still say the heckler deserves what he gets, but I’d also be rooting for the phone to bounce into Tyreek’s/Aaron’s groin and leave shrapnel.
 
You left "fire him" off the options

Seriously though, I assume ESPN will do something, although the financial penalty from a suspension will be immaterial compared to the financial windfall he's seeing from overexposure; any loss there will be nothing compared to the civil suit he's likely to see.
 
You left "fire him" off the options

Seriously though, I assume ESPN will do something, although the financial penalty from a suspension will be immaterial compared to the financial windfall he's seeing from overexposure; any loss there will be nothing compared to the civil suit he's likely to see.

Best answer for "Fire him" would be the "4+ week suspension". What would you say is appropriate?

And I'm not at all sure they will do something.

As I expected, the internet response continues to be supporting Kelce.
 
I wonder how the response to this would be if it were Tyreek Hill or Aaron Rodgers who smashed the phone?
Hill would likely not get any benefit of the doubt because of his history, which is well documented.

Rodgers would result in a lot of "sounds like he needs to smoke more ganja and chill out"-type comments. lol

Neither imaginary scenario is revelant to this incident, though.
 
I don’t think ESPN should do anything. But I also think Kelce broke the law and could rightfully be found liable either criminally or civilly if the student were to push the matter (which I suspect he won’t).
 
Best answer for "Fire him" would be the "4+ week suspension". What would you say is appropriate?
The "fire him" suggestion was made tongue firmly planted in cheek.

I honestly have no opinion on what is appropriate primarily because - short of actually firing him, which I don't believe ESPN will do - it really doesn't matter. I'm sure there's a war room in Bristol right now where they're trying to figure out what punishment is appropriate. And that decision will be based on public perception. Based on the responses here (which I assume are representative of ESPN's key demographic), as well as the embrace by the LGBTQ+ community of Kelce as a defender of the realm, that punishment is likely to be very light, if there is any punishment at all.

(Apologies for the run-on sentences; I've just finished my morning 32oz. coffee.)
 
I don’t think ESPN should do anything. But I also think Kelce broke the law and could rightfully be found liable either criminally or civilly if the student were to push the matter (which I suspect he won’t).
You have far more faith in humanity than I do my friend.
 
ESPN should do nothing, and doing so makes him look guilty of something which could add fuel to the potential lawsuit. If the kid is a student he should be expelled.
 
I don’t think ESPN should do anything. But I also think Kelce broke the law and could rightfully be found liable either criminally or civilly if the student were to push the matter (which I suspect he won’t).
You have far more faith in humanity than I do my friend.

Even from a purely self-serving angle, do you think that kid wants to out himself publicly as the guy who thinks it’s fun to yell horrible gay slurs? That kid still needs to live on a college campus when he sobers up and get a job at some point down the road.
 
I wonder how the response to this would be if it were Tyreek Hill or Aaron Rodgers who smashed the phone?
Hill would likely not get any benefit of the doubt because of his history, which is well documented.

Rodgers would result in a lot of "sounds like he needs to smoke more ganja and chill out"-type comments. lol

Neither imaginary scenario is revelant to this incident, though.

Sure. This situation is this situation. But I wonder how much the responses are based on the person.

In theory, how we see a person being heckled with a slur, smashing the heckler's phone, and then the person using the slur themself back to the heckler should be independent of who the person is.

I wonder if that's the case.
 
I don’t think ESPN should do anything. But I also think Kelce broke the law and could rightfully be found liable either criminally or civilly if the student were to push the matter (which I suspect he won’t).
You have far more faith in humanity than I do my friend.

Even from a purely self-serving angle, do you think that kid wants to out himself publicly as the guy who thinks it’s fun to yell horrible gay slurs? That kid still needs to live on a college campus when he sobers up and get a job at some point down the road.
You raise a good point, but the family might see life-changing money and opt to take their chances.
 
I wonder how the response to this would be if it were Tyreek Hill or Aaron Rodgers who smashed the phone?
Hill would likely not get any benefit of the doubt because of his history, which is well documented.

Rodgers would result in a lot of "sounds like he needs to smoke more ganja and chill out"-type comments. lol

Neither imaginary scenario is revelant to this incident, though.

Sure. This situation is this situation. But I wonder how much the responses are based on the person.

In theory, how we see a person being heckled with a slur, smashing the heckler's phone, and then the person using the slur themself back to the heckler should be independent of who the person is.

I wonder if that's the case.
That's not realistic. Who a person is and what their history is matters. And it should.
 
I wonder how the response to this would be if it were Tyreek Hill or Aaron Rodgers who smashed the phone?
Hill would likely not get any benefit of the doubt because of his history, which is well documented.

Rodgers would result in a lot of "sounds like he needs to smoke more ganja and chill out"-type comments. lol

Neither imaginary scenario is revelant to this incident, though.

Sure. This situation is this situation. But I wonder how much the responses are based on the person.

In theory, how we see a person being heckled with a slur, smashing the heckler's phone, and then the person using the slur themself back to the heckler should be independent of who the person is.

I wonder if that's the case.
That's not realistic. Who a person is and what their history is matters. And it should.

Thanks. That'll be interesting in the public perception vs the legal framework which puts less emphasis on who he is.
 
Best answer for "Fire him" would be the "4+ week suspension". What would you say is appropriate?
The "fire him" suggestion was made tongue firmly planted in cheek.

I honestly have no opinion on what is appropriate primarily because - short of actually firing him, which I don't believe ESPN will do - it really doesn't matter. I'm sure there's a war room in Bristol right now where they're trying to figure out what punishment is appropriate. And that decision will be based on public perception. Based on the responses here (which I assume are representative of ESPN's key demographic), as well as the embrace by the LGBTQ+ community of Kelce as a defender of the realm, that punishment is likely to be very light, if there is any punishment at all.

(Apologies for the run-on sentences; I've just finished my morning 32oz. coffee.)
The guys in the war room are secretly giving high fives and slapping Kelce on the backside.
 
I realize everyone may not see this distinction or perhaps haven't actually watched the video but there is nuance here in how to Kelce using the slur in that he turned it back on him by using the original slur saying "who's the f__ now" vs. calling a person that slur. Context here matters imo.
 
I don’t think ESPN should do anything. But I also think Kelce broke the law and could rightfully be found liable either criminally or civilly if the student were to push the matter (which I suspect he won’t).
You have far more faith in humanity than I do my friend.
It’s probably not worth it, as I’m sure Kelce will pay for a new phone (which is the extent of his damages unless they want to throw in some emotional distress claims which wouldn’t likely be viewed well in light of the racial slur).
 
Best answer for "Fire him" would be the "4+ week suspension". What would you say is appropriate?
The "fire him" suggestion was made tongue firmly planted in cheek.

I honestly have no opinion on what is appropriate primarily because - short of actually firing him, which I don't believe ESPN will do - it really doesn't matter. I'm sure there's a war room in Bristol right now where they're trying to figure out what punishment is appropriate. And that decision will be based on public perception. Based on the responses here (which I assume are representative of ESPN's key demographic), as well as the embrace by the LGBTQ+ community of Kelce as a defender of the realm, that punishment is likely to be very light, if there is any punishment at all.

(Apologies for the run-on sentences; I've just finished my morning 32oz. coffee.)
The guys in the war room are secretly giving high fives and slapping Kelce on the backside.
No doubt about it.

Similarily, I would bet money that athletes everywhere are applauding Joel Embiid for "shoving" (or whatever he did) that reporter yesterday.
 

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