Should ESPN do anything? Jason Kelce smashes student's phone (1 Viewer)

[Joe Bryant]

I realize everyone may not see this distinction or perhaps haven't actually watched the video but there is nuance here in how to Kelce using the slur in that he turned it back on him by using the original slur saying "who's the f__ now" vs. calling a person that slur. Context here matters imo.

Feels like this is getting swept away in the news cycle. It's also subtle when putting a slur back on someone, it can be read several different ways.

Really?

I don’t think it’s more nuanced than someone saying “you’re a jerk”, followed by the response “no, YOU’RE THE jerk”.

Agreed. That's how it seemed to me.

 

[SFBayDuck]

What about the kid? I mean this isn’t the Ravens asshat fan, who deserves prison and his career being ruined, but surprised he hasn’t been doxxed yet. Or has he?

For his sake I hope he isn’t, and he takes the L on this one and learns from it not to be a jackhole.

 

[massraider]

What about the kid? I mean this isn’t the Ravens asshat fan, who deserves prison and his career being ruined, but surprised he hasn’t been doxxed yet. Or has he?

For his sake I hope he isn’t, and he takes the L on this one and learns from it not to be a jackhole.

He might love it.

 

[ghostguy123]

What about the kid? I mean this isn’t the Ravens asshat fan, who deserves prison and his career being ruined, but surprised he hasn’t been doxxed yet. Or has he?

For his sake I hope he isn’t, and he takes the L on this one and learns from it not to be a jackhole.

He might love it.

He sure will if Kelce gets punished and he doesn't.

 

[bigbottom]

I also think that Kelece should reach out and offer to replace the cell phone

I heard he called, but the kid didn't answer his phone.

 

[northern exposure]

I voted no suspension. I don't have a super high opinion of either of the Kelce brothers, but I think professional repercussions should be reserved for much more serious offenses than this. Also, I think it's a bunch of baloney that people think they can with no consequences just harass guys who could obviously beat the crap out of them. Still, grabbing and smashing the dude's phone makes him look like a tool. If he feels he can't just ignore it, he can easily stop and confront him and the guy would probably be pissing in his pants scared. There's just no need for him to damage property or anything of the sort to put a stop to it and get his point across.

I agree. Kelce could have stopped and glared at the guy. That would have been intimidating enough to shut him up. Kelce is a big guy. Given how much phones cost these days, I don't think Kelce's actions were warranted.

Since Joe wants to throw out hypotheticals in here, what if the celebrity/athlete that smashed the phone was a much smaller guy than the owner of the phone?

Kelce is an NFL center. Used to taking punishment and giving it. So I think he would do that to anyone.

I highly doubt 5-8 160lb Ricky Fowler would turn to a 6-4 250lb man and try to smash his phone no matter what he said

Exactly. So, Kelce at 6'3" 295 lbs (he might have slimmed down since he retired) knew he could smash the guy's phone and face no physical repercussions.
Should ESPN suspend or fine Kelce? No.
Should Kelce have smashed the guy's phone? Also, no.

 

[bigbottom]

any loss there will be nothing compared to the civil suit he's likely to see

As a lawyer - he is not going to lose a lot of money on a civil case here.

Worst case scenario - a jury would award nominal damages of $1.

Really, the gentleman who lost his phone will have a tough time finding a lawyer who wants to take on this case on a contingency fee.

You're the lawyer and I'm not so I trust what you say but it seems to me like it would be considered a crime to destroy someones property. I agree with you that if he got a sympathetic jury that not alot would happen and I also agree that there are likely alot of lawyers that wouldn't want to touch this case but am I wrong to assume that Kelce could be held criminally and civilly liable for this?

Yes, it’s definitely possible that he could be held criminally and civilly liable. If the kid called the cops or wanted to press charges, Kelce might get charged with assault and destruction of property. If the kid decided to sue him, Kelce could be found liable for damages amounting to the cost of the kid’s phone. It’s possible that there might be emotional distress damages on top of that, but I would think such a finding by a jury would likely be remote under the circumstances.

 

[Terminalxylem]

I realize everyone may not see this distinction or perhaps haven't actually watched the video but there is nuance here in how to Kelce using the slur in that he turned it back on him by using the original slur saying "who's the f__ now" vs. calling a person that slur. Context here matters imo.

Feels like this is getting swept away in the news cycle. It's also subtle when putting a slur back on someone, it can be read several different ways.

Really?

I don’t think it’s more nuanced than someone saying “you’re a jerk”, followed by the response “no, YOU’RE THE jerk”.

What else are you reading into the exchange?

He didn't call him a f__, he asked the question who's the f___ now, after the kid used the slur. Again, it's nuanced but important imo, and if you don't see the difference you may not and I understand. Ideally he wouldn't have used the word at all, but it's different than just screaming the slur back at him.

Yes, I understand, and don’t think it’s complicated at all. Kid used the slur, likely without homophobic intent, and Kelce mockingly parroted his insult, also without homophobic underpinnings.

 

[General Malaise]

I'm confused. Does Kelce even NEED ESPN? Isn't his Podcast one of the most popular in the world? He makes commercials, has generational wealth....if ESPN did anything couldn't he just laugh at them?

 

[kupcho1]

I realize everyone may not see this distinction or perhaps haven't actually watched the video but there is nuance here in how to Kelce using the slur in that he turned it back on him by using the original slur saying "who's the f__ now" vs. calling a person that slur. Context here matters imo.

Feels like this is getting swept away in the news cycle. It's also subtle when putting a slur back on someone, it can be read several different ways.

Really?

I don’t think it’s more nuanced than someone saying “you’re a jerk”, followed by the response “no, YOU’RE THE jerk”.

Agreed. That's how it seemed to me.

Except in this case jerk wasn't the word being bandied about.
F__, much like n_____ and r_____ are "3rd rail" words these days. Given that f__ was the word and not jerk, almost anything could happen in 2024.

Perhaps the Chinese cursed us because we do indeed live in interesting times.

 

[kupcho1]

I'm confused. Does Kelce even NEED ESPN? Isn't his Podcast one of the most popular in the world? He makes commercials, has generational wealth....if ESPN did anything couldn't he just laugh at them?

I think being on ESPN greatly enhances his "brand."

 

[General Malaise]

I'm confused. Does Kelce even NEED ESPN? Isn't his Podcast one of the most popular in the world? He makes commercials, has generational wealth....if ESPN did anything couldn't he just laugh at them?

I think being on ESPN greatly enhances his "brand."

Dan Patrick has done okay without ESPN. Dan LeBetard. Bill Simmons. David Pollack and on and on and on.

New YorkCNN —
Yet another podcast has inked a deal upwards of $100 million.

Brothers and NFL stars Jason and Travis Kelce signed a deal with Amazon’s podcast studio Wondery for their “New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce” podcast. The agreement brings exclusive ad-sales and distribution rights for all audio and video episodes to Wondery. It also includes the entire back catalog.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Does it matter that Kelce used the same slur at the end of the video?

Did not know Kelce slurred him back. All was good until that part. Been best to smash phone and keep walking.

Or just keep walking

 

[massraider]

I'm confused. Does Kelce even NEED ESPN? Isn't his Podcast one of the most popular in the world? He makes commercials, has generational wealth....if ESPN did anything couldn't he just laugh at them?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/08/27/business/kelce-brothers-sign-usd100-million-podcast-deal-with-amazons-wondery

Massive podcast deal. I had no idea.

On the other hand, if Kelce is angling for a color job, that's very real money.

Which is neither here nor there. No one is walking away from Kelce because of this.

 

[kupcho1]

I'm confused. Does Kelce even NEED ESPN? Isn't his Podcast one of the most popular in the world? He makes commercials, has generational wealth....if ESPN did anything couldn't he just laugh at them?

I think being on ESPN greatly enhances his "brand."

Dan Patrick has done okay without ESPN. Dan LeBetard. Bill Simmons. David Pollack and on and on and on.

New YorkCNN —
Yet another podcast has inked a deal upwards of $100 million.

Brothers and NFL stars Jason and Travis Kelce signed a deal with Amazon’s podcast studio Wondery for their “New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce” podcast. The agreement brings exclusive ad-sales and distribution rights for all audio and video episodes to Wondery. It also includes the entire back catalog.

Two things can be true.
ESPN does enhance his (their - not in the current pronoun sense; I mean his and his brother's) brand.
They also can have generational wealth.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Does it matter that Kelce used the same slur at the end of the video?

Did not know Kelce slurred him back. All was good until that part. Been best to smash phone and keep walking.

Or just keep walking

Kelce slurred back at him after Kelce dropped the phone, went to pick it up and the kid bumped in to him. At that point kelce could have shoved him back but chose to ask the slur back to him. Mad restraint at that part by kelce cause he could have shoved the kid back.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Does it matter that Kelce used the same slur at the end of the video?

Did not know Kelce slurred him back. All was good until that part. Been best to smash phone and keep walking.

Or just keep walking

Kelce slurred back at him after Kelce dropped the phone, went to pick it up and the kid bumped in to him. At that point kelce could have shoved him back but chose to ask the slur back to him. Mad restraint at that part by kelce cause he could have shoved the kid back.

Eh, why not just keep walking ? Why stop at all?

 

[culdeus]

Does it matter that Kelce used the same slur at the end of the video?

Did not know Kelce slurred him back. All was good until that part. Been best to smash phone and keep walking.

Or just keep walking

Kelce slurred back at him after Kelce dropped the phone, went to pick it up and the kid bumped in to him. At that point kelce could have shoved him back but chose to ask the slur back to him. Mad restraint at that part by kelce cause he could have shoved the kid back.

Eh, why not just keep walking ? Why stop at all?

CTE. PED use. Alcohol intake?

 

[Courtjester]

Since I retired last year, I have found myself scrolling on TikTok way more than i should, but for those of you that don't frequent social media, there is a whole subculture of content creators that this is their MO. One guy goes around and purposefully rams his shopping cart into other carts. Another group puts those five gallon buckets on people's heads and then run. There are "auditors" that film people in businesses just to get a reaction in the name of freedom of speech. There is no shortage of these jerks and they just hope to get someone to react for clicks or likes.

One creator used to get really aggressive with people and film their responses You can search up Tanner Cook on YouTube and he ended up getting shot by his mark. The guy was found not guilty at trial.

I guarantee this kid was looking for content for his page and ultimately ended up getting it. ESPN should do nothing and let this event go by the wayside. My only observation is how smart was it for Kelce (as a well known celebrity) to just be walking through a large crowd without some form of bodyguard or even a handler to help defuse this kind of situation.

 

[ghostguy123]

Does it matter that Kelce used the same slur at the end of the video?

Did not know Kelce slurred him back. All was good until that part. Been best to smash phone and keep walking.

Or just keep walking

Kelce slurred back at him after Kelce dropped the phone, went to pick it up and the kid bumped in to him. At that point kelce could have shoved him back but chose to ask the slur back to him. Mad restraint at that part by kelce cause he could have shoved the kid back.

Eh, why not just keep walking ? Why stop at all?

Yeah, so the dude can keep harassing him for who knows how much longer?
In this case I'd prefer to focus the blame on the blatant instigator who was harassing Kelce and even getting personal doing it.
Dude is beyond lucky all that happened was his phone was gronk slammed.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

My only observation is how smart was it for Kelce (as a well known celebrity) to just be walking through a large crowd without some form of bodyguard or even a handler to help defuse this kind of situation.

Again and this is the last time I’ll write it. Maybe.

Dude is a grown *** man with millions of dollars who lives in the public eye. All he has to do was ignore the lil doosh

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Yeah, so the dude can keep harassing him for who knows how much longer?

Yes?

 

[General Malaise]

My only observation is how smart was it for Kelce (as a well known celebrity) to just be walking through a large crowd without some form of bodyguard or even a handler to help defuse this kind of situation.

Again and this is the last time I’ll write it. Maybe.

Dude is a grown *** man with millions of dollars who lives in the public eye. All he has to do was ignore the lil doosh

Maybe people don't want to ignore hatred, bigotry, racism, homophonia, etc....maybe some people are tired of hearing the "F" word or the "N" word hurled their way. We get it, you're a grown up. It rolls off your back. Maybe try wearing the sneakers of somebody else to see how they feel about it?

 

[Cowboysfan8]

My only observation is how smart was it for Kelce (as a well known celebrity) to just be walking through a large crowd without some form of bodyguard or even a handler to help defuse this kind of situation.

Again and this is the last time I’ll write it. Maybe.

Dude is a grown *** man with millions of dollars who lives in the public eye. All he has to do was ignore the lil doosh

Maybe people don't want to ignore hatred, bigotry, racism, homophonia, etc....maybe some people are tired of hearing the "F" word or the "N" word hurled their way. We get it, you're a grown up. It rolls off your back. Maybe try wearing the sneakers of somebody else to see how they feel about it?

So your stance would be different if the kid would have called his brother anything else? Ignore the idiot kid and move on with your life unless it’s a gay slur then it’s time to jump into action?

FWIW, I’m not sure Jason Kelce has had the f (he’s married with children) or n (he’s pretty white) word hurled his way very often

 

[CGRdrJoe]

My only observation is how smart was it for Kelce (as a well known celebrity) to just be walking through a large crowd without some form of bodyguard or even a handler to help defuse this kind of situation.

Again and this is the last time I’ll write it. Maybe.

Dude is a grown *** man with millions of dollars who lives in the public eye. All he has to do was ignore the lil doosh

Maybe people don't want to ignore hatred, bigotry, racism, homophonia, etc....maybe some people are tired of hearing the "F" word or the "N" word hurled their way. We get it, you're a grown up. It rolls off your back. Maybe try wearing the sneakers of somebody else to see how they feel about it?

So your stance would be different if the kid would have called his brother anything else? Ignore the idiot kid and move on with your life unless it’s a gay slur then it’s time to jump into action?

FWIW, I’m not sure Jason Kelce has had the f (he’s married with children) or n (he’s pretty white) word hurled his way very often

so you’re pro troll, cool

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Does it matter that Kelce used the same slur at the end of the video?

Did not know Kelce slurred him back. All was good until that part. Been best to smash phone and keep walking.

Or just keep walking

Kelce slurred back at him after Kelce dropped the phone, went to pick it up and the kid bumped in to him. At that point kelce could have shoved him back but chose to ask the slur back to him. Mad restraint at that part by kelce cause he could have shoved the kid back.

Eh, why not just keep walking ? Why stop at all?

CTE. PED use. Alcohol intake?

amazing how many pro say what you want but don’t expect consequences posters there are on here

 

[ghostguy123]

Yeah, so the dude can keep harassing him for who knows how much longer?

Yes?

You had a 50/50 shot at getting that answer correct and you missed

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

whatever happened to "sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me."

Welcome to 2024, where a 36 year old man can act 20 years younger

 

[Cowboysfan8]

My only observation is how smart was it for Kelce (as a well known celebrity) to just be walking through a large crowd without some form of bodyguard or even a handler to help defuse this kind of situation.

Again and this is the last time I’ll write it. Maybe.

Dude is a grown *** man with millions of dollars who lives in the public eye. All he has to do was ignore the lil doosh

Maybe people don't want to ignore hatred, bigotry, racism, homophonia, etc....maybe some people are tired of hearing the "F" word or the "N" word hurled their way. We get it, you're a grown up. It rolls off your back. Maybe try wearing the sneakers of somebody else to see how they feel about it?

So your stance would be different if the kid would have called his brother anything else? Ignore the idiot kid and move on with your life unless it’s a gay slur then it’s time to jump into action?

FWIW, I’m not sure Jason Kelce has had the f (he’s married with children) or n (he’s pretty white) word hurled his way very often

so you’re pro troll, cool

That’s not what I wrote all. But you be you I guess

 

[Cowboysfan8]

whatever happened to "sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me."

Welcome to 2024, where a 36 year old man can act 20 years younger

This

 

[CGRdrJoe]

whatever happened to "sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me."

Welcome to 2024, where a 36 year old man can act 20 years younger

whatever happened to be prepared to back up your insulting words?

 

[Cowboysfan8]

My only observation is how smart was it for Kelce (as a well known celebrity) to just be walking through a large crowd without some form of bodyguard or even a handler to help defuse this kind of situation.

Again and this is the last time I’ll write it. Maybe.

Dude is a grown *** man with millions of dollars who lives in the public eye. All he has to do was ignore the lil doosh

Maybe people don't want to ignore hatred, bigotry, racism, homophonia, etc....maybe some people are tired of hearing the "F" word or the "N" word hurled their way. We get it, you're a grown up. It rolls off your back. Maybe try wearing the sneakers of somebody else to see how they feel about it?

So your stance would be different if the kid would have called his brother anything else? Ignore the idiot kid and move on with your life unless it’s a gay slur then it’s time to jump into action?

FWIW, I’m not sure Jason Kelce has had the f (he’s married with children) or n (he’s pretty white) word hurled his way very often

so you’re pro troll, cool

That’s not what I wrote all. But you be you I guess

i should have figured a cowboy/dodger fan wouldn’t understand their own words

There’s really no sense in making this topic personal. Take a breath dude

ETA: grow up

 

[CGRdrJoe]

My only observation is how smart was it for Kelce (as a well known celebrity) to just be walking through a large crowd without some form of bodyguard or even a handler to help defuse this kind of situation.

Again and this is the last time I’ll write it. Maybe.

Dude is a grown *** man with millions of dollars who lives in the public eye. All he has to do was ignore the lil doosh

Maybe people don't want to ignore hatred, bigotry, racism, homophonia, etc....maybe some people are tired of hearing the "F" word or the "N" word hurled their way. We get it, you're a grown up. It rolls off your back. Maybe try wearing the sneakers of somebody else to see how they feel about it?

So your stance would be different if the kid would have called his brother anything else? Ignore the idiot kid and move on with your life unless it’s a gay slur then it’s time to jump into action?

FWIW, I’m not sure Jason Kelce has had the f (he’s married with children) or n (he’s pretty white) word hurled his way very often

so you’re pro troll, cool

That’s not what I wrote all. But you be you I guess

i should have figured a cowboy/dodger fan wouldn’t understand their own words

There’s really no sense in making this topic personal. Take a breath dude

ETA: grow up

what happened to sticks and stones and just not responding? whoops, see

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

whatever happened to be prepared to back up your insulting words?

ummmm thats really not how our society works or at least not how it should. This isn't the 1700's

 

[Terminalxylem]

I realize everyone may not see this distinction or perhaps haven't actually watched the video but there is nuance here in how to Kelce using the slur in that he turned it back on him by using the original slur saying "who's the f__ now" vs. calling a person that slur. Context here matters imo.

Feels like this is getting swept away in the news cycle. It's also subtle when putting a slur back on someone, it can be read several different ways.

Really?

I don’t think it’s more nuanced than someone saying “you’re a jerk”, followed by the response “no, YOU’RE THE jerk”.

Agreed. That's how it seemed to me.

Except in this case jerk wasn't the word being bandied about.
F__, much like n_____ and r_____ are "3rd rail" words these days. Given that f__ was the word and not jerk, almost anything could happen in 2024.

Perhaps the Chinese cursed us because we do indeed live in interesting times.

Respectfully, disagree. I guess we'll see how big a deal this becomes.

 

[ghostguy123]

whatever happened to "sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me."

Welcome to 2024, where a 36 year old man can act 20 years younger

Whatever happened to don't follow people and purposely instigate them with personal insults in a harassing manner?

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

whatever happened to "sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me."

Welcome to 2024, where a 36 year old man can act 20 years younger

Whatever happened to don't follow people and purposely instigate them with personal insults in a harassing manner?

to be fair, I never argued that what the kid did is right although I think that a free speech absolutist could argue that he has the right to say what he did. My argument is that a 36 year old should have acted like a 36 year old and not reacted to a blatantly false statement.

 

[Terminalxylem]

My only observation is how smart was it for Kelce (as a well known celebrity) to just be walking through a large crowd without some form of bodyguard or even a handler to help defuse this kind of situation.

Again and this is the last time I’ll write it. Maybe.

Dude is a grown *** man with millions of dollars who lives in the public eye. All he has to do was ignore the lil doosh

Maybe people don't want to ignore hatred, bigotry, racism, homophonia, etc....maybe some people are tired of hearing the "F" word or the "N" word hurled their way. We get it, you're a grown up. It rolls off your back. Maybe try wearing the sneakers of somebody else to see how they feel about it?

They're certainly wrong in their word choice, but I'd hardly call what happened there homophonia.

 

[General Malaise]

My only observation is how smart was it for Kelce (as a well known celebrity) to just be walking through a large crowd without some form of bodyguard or even a handler to help defuse this kind of situation.

Again and this is the last time I’ll write it. Maybe.

Dude is a grown *** man with millions of dollars who lives in the public eye. All he has to do was ignore the lil doosh

Maybe people don't want to ignore hatred, bigotry, racism, homophonia, etc....maybe some people are tired of hearing the "F" word or the "N" word hurled their way. We get it, you're a grown up. It rolls off your back. Maybe try wearing the sneakers of somebody else to see how they feel about it?

So your stance would be different if the kid would have called his brother anything else? Ignore the idiot kid and move on with your life unless it’s a gay slur then it’s time to jump into action?

FWIW, I’m not sure Jason Kelce has had the f (he’s married with children) or n (he’s pretty white) word hurled his way very often

Yeah, I think it would be.

There is a viral video of a white woman calling a black woman the *N* word in a public area. The black woman proceeds to beat the brakes off the white woman and tells her to call her an *N* word again. She doesn't. She cries and begs for her life. Bet she won't call a black person an *N* word again.

And I would hope this hooded punk who had his phone smashed would think twice before calling another person a F***ot again.

Using the *S* word as a slur for Hispanics, or the *CH* for Asians or the *R* word for people with intellectual disability.....all of that needs to go the way of the dinosaur. We can do better as a society, as humans. And I believe it's up to ALL of us to help stop it and correct the people who continue to peddle hate and hurt. It's unnecessarily cruel to use those words.

You might find them "silly" but I think you should consider that others feel differently. I'll say it again, if you called my gay son a Fa**ot anywhere near me, my fist would need to be surgically removed from your esophagus. Forget your iPhone.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

My only observation is how smart was it for Kelce (as a well known celebrity) to just be walking through a large crowd without some form of bodyguard or even a handler to help defuse this kind of situation.

Again and this is the last time I’ll write it. Maybe.

Dude is a grown *** man with millions of dollars who lives in the public eye. All he has to do was ignore the lil doosh

Maybe people don't want to ignore hatred, bigotry, racism, homophonia, etc....maybe some people are tired of hearing the "F" word or the "N" word hurled their way. We get it, you're a grown up. It rolls off your back. Maybe try wearing the sneakers of somebody else to see how they feel about it?

So your stance would be different if the kid would have called his brother anything else? Ignore the idiot kid and move on with your life unless it’s a gay slur then it’s time to jump into action?

FWIW, I’m not sure Jason Kelce has had the f (he’s married with children) or n (he’s pretty white) word hurled his way very often

so you’re pro troll, cool

That’s not what I wrote all. But you be you I guess

i should have figured a cowboy/dodger fan wouldn’t understand their own words

There’s really no sense in making this topic personal. Take a breath dude

ETA: grow up

what happened to sticks and stones and just not responding? whoops, see

My only observation is how smart was it for Kelce (as a well known celebrity) to just be walking through a large crowd without some form of bodyguard or even a handler to help defuse this kind of situation.

Again and this is the last time I’ll write it. Maybe.

Dude is a grown *** man with millions of dollars who lives in the public eye. All he has to do was ignore the lil doosh

Maybe people don't want to ignore hatred, bigotry, racism, homophonia, etc....maybe some people are tired of hearing the "F" word or the "N" word hurled their way. We get it, you're a grown up. It rolls off your back. Maybe try wearing the sneakers of somebody else to see how they feel about it?

So your stance would be different if the kid would have called his brother anything else? Ignore the idiot kid and move on with your life unless it’s a gay slur then it’s time to jump into action?

FWIW, I’m not sure Jason Kelce has had the f (he’s married with children) or n (he’s pretty white) word hurled his way very often

Yeah, I think it would be.

There is a viral video of a white woman calling a black woman the *N* word in a public area. The black woman proceeds to beat the brakes off the white woman and tells her to call her an *N* word again. She doesn't. She cries and begs for her life. Bet she won't call a black person an *N* word again.

And I would hope this hooded punk who had his phone smashed would think twice before calling another person a F***ot again.

Using the *S* word as a slur for Hispanics, or the *CH* for Asians or the *R* word for people with intellectual disability.....all of that needs to go the way of the dinosaur. We can do better as a society, as humans. And I believe it's up to ALL of us to help stop it and correct the people who continue to peddle hate and hurt. It's unnecessarily cruel to use those words.

You might find them "silly" but I think you should consider that others feel differently. I'll say it again, if you called my gay son a Fa**ot anywhere near me, my fist would need to be surgically removed from your esophagus. Forget your iPhone.

That’s the 2nd time (at least) you’ve brought your child into this thread. I’m posting about Kelce.
It’s my opinion that he would’ve been better off ignoring this idiot kid in this instance and moving on with his day. You disagree. That’s cool. Have a great night!

 

[bigbottom]

I agree that Kelce would have been better off ignoring the guy. But I also agree that the guy who got his phone spiked on the ground got what was coming to him. Both things can be true.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

I agree that Kelce would have been better off ignoring the guy. But I also agree that the guy who got his phone spiked on the ground got what was coming to him. Both things can be true.

I agree. And if kid continues to act like that things will get worse for him. That can be said for Kelce too imo

 

[TripItUp]

I agree that Kelce would have been better off ignoring the guy. But I also agree that the guy who got his phone spiked on the ground got what was coming to him. Both things can be true.

This is where I'm at.

Liberal Disney may opt for nominal punishment here...will be interesting to see how it plays out.

 

[bigbottom]

I agree that Kelce would have been better off ignoring the guy. But I also agree that the guy who got his phone spiked on the ground got what was coming to him. Both things can be true.

I agree. And if kid continues to act like that things will get worse for him. That can be said for Kelce too imo

Yep.

 

[General Malaise]

My only observation is how smart was it for Kelce (as a well known celebrity) to just be walking through a large crowd without some form of bodyguard or even a handler to help defuse this kind of situation.

Again and this is the last time I’ll write it. Maybe.

Dude is a grown *** man with millions of dollars who lives in the public eye. All he has to do was ignore the lil doosh

Maybe people don't want to ignore hatred, bigotry, racism, homophonia, etc....maybe some people are tired of hearing the "F" word or the "N" word hurled their way. We get it, you're a grown up. It rolls off your back. Maybe try wearing the sneakers of somebody else to see how they feel about it?

So your stance would be different if the kid would have called his brother anything else? Ignore the idiot kid and move on with your life unless it’s a gay slur then it’s time to jump into action?

FWIW, I’m not sure Jason Kelce has had the f (he’s married with children) or n (he’s pretty white) word hurled his way very often

so you’re pro troll, cool

That’s not what I wrote all. But you be you I guess

i should have figured a cowboy/dodger fan wouldn’t understand their own words

There’s really no sense in making this topic personal. Take a breath dude

ETA: grow up

what happened to sticks and stones and just not responding? whoops, see

My only observation is how smart was it for Kelce (as a well known celebrity) to just be walking through a large crowd without some form of bodyguard or even a handler to help defuse this kind of situation.

Again and this is the last time I’ll write it. Maybe.

Dude is a grown *** man with millions of dollars who lives in the public eye. All he has to do was ignore the lil doosh

Maybe people don't want to ignore hatred, bigotry, racism, homophonia, etc....maybe some people are tired of hearing the "F" word or the "N" word hurled their way. We get it, you're a grown up. It rolls off your back. Maybe try wearing the sneakers of somebody else to see how they feel about it?

So your stance would be different if the kid would have called his brother anything else? Ignore the idiot kid and move on with your life unless it’s a gay slur then it’s time to jump into action?

FWIW, I’m not sure Jason Kelce has had the f (he’s married with children) or n (he’s pretty white) word hurled his way very often

Yeah, I think it would be.

There is a viral video of a white woman calling a black woman the *N* word in a public area. The black woman proceeds to beat the brakes off the white woman and tells her to call her an *N* word again. She doesn't. She cries and begs for her life. Bet she won't call a black person an *N* word again.

And I would hope this hooded punk who had his phone smashed would think twice before calling another person a F***ot again.

Using the *S* word as a slur for Hispanics, or the *CH* for Asians or the *R* word for people with intellectual disability.....all of that needs to go the way of the dinosaur. We can do better as a society, as humans. And I believe it's up to ALL of us to help stop it and correct the people who continue to peddle hate and hurt. It's unnecessarily cruel to use those words.

You might find them "silly" but I think you should consider that others feel differently. I'll say it again, if you called my gay son a Fa**ot anywhere near me, my fist would need to be surgically removed from your esophagus. Forget your iPhone.

That’s the 2nd time (at least) you’ve brought your child into this thread. I’m posting about Kelce.
It’s my opinion that he would’ve been better off ignoring this idiot kid in this instance and moving on with his day. You disagree. That’s cool. Have a great night!

You called the slur "silly". I'm trying to illustrate how for a lot of other people, it's not silly. We disagree. You have a great night.

 

[ghostguy123]

whatever happened to "sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me."

Welcome to 2024, where a 36 year old man can act 20 years younger

Whatever happened to don't follow people and purposely instigate them with personal insults in a harassing manner?

to be fair, I never argued that what the kid did is right although I think that a free speech absolutist could argue that he has the right to say what he did. My argument is that a 36 year old should have acted like a 36 year old and not reacted to a blatantly false statement.

Does a free speech absolutist think it's ok to follow people to continually harass them?

 

[mr. furley]

Kelce should have picked that kid up by his belt and the scruff of his neck, then deposited him in a dumpster

 

[SWC]

free speach is the first thing morons yell when they have harassed someone and gotten whats coming to them hth take that to the bank brohans

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

whatever happened to "sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me."

Welcome to 2024, where a 36 year old man can act 20 years younger

Whatever happened to don't follow people and purposely instigate them with personal insults in a harassing manner?

to be fair, I never argued that what the kid did is right although I think that a free speech absolutist could argue that he has the right to say what he did. My argument is that a 36 year old should have acted like a 36 year old and not reacted to a blatantly false statement.

Does a free speech absolutist think it's ok to follow people to continually harass them?

I don't know, you'd have to find one and ask them.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

whatever happened to "sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me."

Welcome to 2024, where a 36 year old man can act 20 years younger

Whatever happened to don't follow people and purposely instigate them with personal insults in a harassing manner?

to be fair, I never argued that what the kid did is right although I think that a free speech absolutist could argue that he has the right to say what he did. My argument is that a 36 year old should have acted like a 36 year old and not reacted to a blatantly false statement.

Does a free speech absolutist think it's ok to follow people to continually harass them?

“Freedom of Speech” is a mostly misunderstood concept that has very little, if nothing, to do with this situation.