Juxtatarot
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Self-explanatory.
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Should the Eagles-style quarterback sneak be banned? (4 Viewers)
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unckeyherb
Footballguy
I’m an Eagles fan so no.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Isn’t there already a whole topic about tje “push the pile” play?
Amused to Death
Footballguy
I voted no, don't ban the play. But if they banned pushing ANY player in the back any place on the field, then I'm fine with that.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
QB sneak conversion rates were at 82.8% in 2022 and 78.7% since 2016. The Eagles converted 29 of 33 4th and 1 attempts in 2022 an 87.8% rate. So the push in the back accounted for a 10% increase in standard numbers. For the Eagles, that would have been 3 less conversions over the course of the season.
Marauder
Footballguy
I voted yes but I agree with this. I was assuming we were talking about banning any offensive player from pushing the ball carrier in the back, not just this specific play.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
I don't know what the OPs intention was, but some say ban it for the QB under center.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
It'll rectify itself when the defenses adjust and Hurts gets injured.
SproutDaddy
Footballguy
Isn’t there a thread already whining about this?
jm192
Footballguy
This.
I don't have a problem with it in general. But if we're looking at it from being "too advantageous" for the offense--then I'm ok with it so long as there's very real down side for the offense. And there is.
1. You may fail on 4th and short. Josh Allen did that time vs the Titans.
2. There's a very real chance your franchise QB gets seriously hurt. How many times per season do you want your QB under a bunch of 250-350 lb DL and LB's?
jm192
Footballguy
I don't feel it's an issue.
People are acting like it's ruining the game. Did the NFL have historical low ratings for the Regular season or Super Bowl? I would imagine the ratings did just fine.
The Eagles are the team everyone keeps linking this to. They didn't win the Super Bowl. So it's not like the team that does it all the time won 1 superbowl with it, let alone multiples.
Secondarily, they beat the absolute hell out of NYG and SF. The sneak isn't why they made it to the Super bowl.
People are acting like it's ruining the game. Did the NFL have historical low ratings for the Regular season or Super Bowl? I would imagine the ratings did just fine.
The Eagles are the team everyone keeps linking this to. They didn't win the Super Bowl. So it's not like the team that does it all the time won 1 superbowl with it, let alone multiples.
Secondarily, they beat the absolute hell out of NYG and SF. The sneak isn't why they made it to the Super bowl.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I would like to see this play removed from the game. It's just unaesthetic, is all.
(Full disclosure: my team ran this play a bunch of times in 2022. I just don't like it, and I would everyone to remove this one from their playbook.)
(Full disclosure: my team ran this play a bunch of times in 2022. I just don't like it, and I would everyone to remove this one from their playbook.)
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Just commenting - because I played rugby and love the game - to say this type of play is not seen anywhere in rugby whatsoever. Wanted to say it in the other thread but held my tongue. It's nothing like a scrum or a ruck, in which the ball by definition is on the ground. If anything it is similar to a maul (in which the ball carrier remains upright) but the play in a maul is governed by strict and somewhat complex rules, unlike anything we see on a qb sneak. So please, for me, don't call it a rugby scrum.
Voted No.
Voted No.
Terpman22
Footballguy
This surely isn't the only unaesthetic legal play in the NFL, no? Would open pandoras box IMO if we just go down a list of plays "nah not eye pleasing enough"
QB being allowed to just legally Intentional Ground comes to mind for me, an Aaron Rodgers staple
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Ban the Philly Special!
While we’re at it, ban that stupid ish Andy Reid did against the Raiders, then again in the superbowl where they go into a pinwheel merry go round thing out of the huddle. It’s confusing and I don’t like it.
Terpman22
Footballguy
Also, not pleasing to the eyeBan the Philly Special!
While we’re at it, ban that stupid ish Andy Reid did against the Raiders, then again in the superbowl where they go into a pinwheel merry go round thing out of the huddle. It’s confusing and I don’t like it.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’m actually glad there’s a 2nd topic about this with a vote.
Once it’s closed we can send it to Roger Goodell, and I’m sure he’ll get right to the bottom of it. He’ll just check with the boys down at the lab, they’ll get four more guys working on the case. He’ll have them working in shifts.
Once it’s closed we can send it to Roger Goodell, and I’m sure he’ll get right to the bottom of it. He’ll just check with the boys down at the lab, they’ll get four more guys working on the case. He’ll have them working in shifts.
renesauz
IBL Representative
Or defensive players pushing defensive team-mates in the back....which happens all the time all over the field to stack up RB's and WR's and land multiple players on top of the offensive player, clearly just as dangerous if not more so since these guys often have more momentum at time of impact.
If it's good for the goose..........
