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Silicon Valley - New Mike Judge 8-Part HBO Series (5 Viewers)

So where do we think this goes. No way Richard actually succeeds with Gavin. I can see Gavin building a Hooli rival on the back of Richards idea though. With him getting none of the money or credit

 
AcerFC said:
So where do we think this goes. No way Richard actually succeeds with Gavin. I can see Gavin building a Hooli rival on the back of Richards idea though. With him getting none of the money or credit
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I'm all about a Gavin/Pied Piper partnership - think there is huge potential for interactions between all of them and Gavin... Could give the show another 4-5 years of gold. 

 
AcerFC said:
Can someone actually explain to me what Richard wants to do. Make some new Internet. Why do we need that
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He wants to take control of the internet away from the serves, I believe. Since he can get the compression so good, each phone can be it's own server. 

I think 

 
AcerFC said:
So where do we think this goes. No way Richard actually succeeds with Gavin. I can see Gavin building a Hooli rival on the back of Richards idea though. With him getting none of the money or credit
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i think there's got to be a showdown between Action Jack and Gavin. obviously, Richard hates them both so i'm not sure who "wins" in the end. 

at this point, i just want to see the palupa get built and Erlich taking hits from a 3' tall Tiki-bong. 

 
AcerFC said:
Can someone actually explain to me what Richard wants to do. Make some new Internet. Why do we need that
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He's looking to use his algorithm in the same manner he was for compression. Basically a peer to peer internet that uses all of the processing power of your phone to create an open-access internet which would be faster and without the need for providers. 

 
Great episode. My one quibble, and I realize it had to go down the way it did just to hang a ton of future plot points on, is that at the point Gavin is burning up the contract, telling Richard the idea will never work, the play is to buy the patent from Gavin for peanuts, not divulge your algorithm and plan to actually make it work. But then Richard wouldn't be Richard and we wouldn't get Gilfoyle and Gavin scenes.

 
Gr00vus said:
Great episode. My one quibble, and I realize it had to go down the way it did just to hang a ton of future plot points on, is that at the point Gavin is burning up the contract, telling Richard the idea will never work, the play is to buy the patent from Gavin for peanuts, not divulge your algorithm and plan to actually make it work. But then Richard wouldn't be Richard and we wouldn't get Gilfoyle and Gavin scenes.
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I thought Gavin said something along the lines of... You are never getting this patent

 
Gr00vus said:
Great episode. My one quibble, and I realize it had to go down the way it did just to hang a ton of future plot points on, is that at the point Gavin is burning up the contract, telling Richard the idea will never work, the play is to buy the patent from Gavin for peanuts, not divulge your algorithm and plan to actually make it work. But then Richard wouldn't be Richard and we wouldn't get Gilfoyle and Gavin scenes.
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The whole idea that Gavin somehow has a patent on Richard's new idea, and that he can negotiate the patent rights oh behalf of Hooli even though he was deposed, is all very vaguely-developed. Accepting that circumstance, Richard's approach still made no sense.

 
CletiusMaximus said:
The whole idea that Gavin somehow has a patent on Richard's new idea, and that he can negotiate the patent rights oh behalf of Hooli even though he was deposed, is all very vaguely-developed. Accepting that circumstance, Richard's approach still made no sense.
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I think it's been well established by now that Richard is a brilliant programmer whose people skills, common sense, and business skills are as lacking as his technical acumen is impressive.

 
I would like to see them eventually riff on Zuckerberg via Richard. It would mean he (they) would have to finally get over the hump and become successful/stable, but I think there's entertainment to be mined from that scenario (and nothing to prevent them from having a massive fall from grace sometime down the road).

 
CletiusMaximus said:
The whole idea that Gavin somehow has a patent on Richard's new idea, and that he can negotiate the patent rights oh behalf of Hooli even though he was deposed, is all very vaguely-developed. Accepting that circumstance, Richard's approach still made no sense.
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Hooli doesn't own the patent, Gavin does.

Gavin and Peter Gregory were partners back when Gregory had the idea that Richard is working on (while they were still trying to get Hooli up and running). But Peter couldn't make it work, and Gavin didn't want him wasting time on trying to figure it out, rather to focus on Hooli instead. So he patented the idea so that Peter couldn't do anything with it anyway and Peter gave up on it.

Now Richard's algorithm and the ubiquitousness of mobile computing devices, such as tablets and smartphones, make Peter's idea possible. But now Richard couldn't develop it on his own for the same reason Peter had to stop working on it, Gavin personally owns the patent.

 
Evilgrin 72 said:
I think it's been well established by now that Richard is a brilliant programmer whose people skills, common sense, and business skills are as lacking as his technical acumen is impressive.
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Right.  I mean, he starting to essentially write down his intellectual property on Gavin's property... and in my head, before reminding myself it's just a comedy, I'm screaming Nooooooo! you moron, this is how your algorithm got out in the first place. 

 
Gr00vus said:
I would like to see them eventually riff on Zuckerberg via Richard. It would mean he (they) would have to finally get over the hump and become successful/stable, but I think there's entertainment to be mined from that scenario (and nothing to prevent them from having a massive fall from grace sometime down the road).
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Right.  I know the show's creators have commented that they think they lose material once/if these guys actually "make it," but, really, I think it would be really entertaining to see them stumble through fame and fortune.  I mean, some characters kind of have already (Bighead, Erlich, even Richard to an extent) and it's been extremely funny.  At the very least, I'd love to see what Dinesh and Gilfoyle do with mountains of cash. 

 
Zow said:
I think it's just friendly rivalry.  No way Gilfoyle hangs around somebody that often that he doesn't like. 
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One of my favorite parts of the show. Jared and Erlich are also fantastic.

The shows writing and the actors are just dialed in. Like the Seinfeld glory years where every episode has multiple funny things happening.

 
Zow said:
Right.  I know the show's creators have commented that they think they lose material once/if these guys actually "make it," but, really, I think it would be really entertaining to see them stumble through fame and fortune.  I mean, some characters kind of have already (Bighead, Erlich, even Richard to an extent) and it's been extremely funny.  At the very least, I'd love to see what Dinesh and Gilfoyle do with mountains of cash. 
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Ehhh it would kind of just be a nerdy Entourage at that point.  Might be entertaining for a bit I guess

 
Zow said:
Right.  I know the show's creators have commented that they think they lose material once/if these guys actually "make it," but, really, I think it would be really entertaining to see them stumble through fame and fortune.  I mean, some characters kind of have already (Bighead, Erlich, even Richard to an extent) and it's been extremely funny.  At the very least, I'd love to see what Dinesh and Gilfoyle do with mountains of cash. 
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Dinesh as CEO was fantastic, wish it had lasted longer

 
As a tech geek and some one who enjoys the business side of things, my interest in this (stipulating that it would ever be feasible) would be the underestimation on Richards part about the internet being free.

I believe he would just be moving the problem.  

Even if you could remove every ISP server in the world, the technology that carries the data is not free.  My guess is that the cell phone carriers (which in some cases is the same as the ISP's) would find a way to monetize their bandwidth that was carrying the peer to peer connections.

 
NewlyRetired said:
As a tech geek and some one who enjoys the business side of things, my interest in this (stipulating that it would ever be feasible) would be the underestimation on Richards part about the internet being free.

I believe he would just be moving the problem.  

Even if you could remove every ISP server in the world, the technology that carries the data is not free.  My guess is that the cell phone carriers (which in some cases is the same as the ISP's) would find a way to monetize their bandwidth that was carrying the peer to peer connections.
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We're here for the free internet show, take this crazy talk to the nerd thread.

 
Evilgrin 72 said:
I think it's been well established by now that Richard is a brilliant programmer whose people skills, common sense, and business skills are as lacking as his technical acumen is impressive.
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Some of this show's best moments are Richard avoiding human contact.

 
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NewlyRetired said:
As a tech geek and some one who enjoys the business side of things, my interest in this (stipulating that it would ever be feasible) would be the underestimation on Richards part about the internet being free.

I believe he would just be moving the problem.  

Even if you could remove every ISP server in the world, the technology that carries the data is not free.  My guess is that the cell phone carriers (which in some cases is the same as the ISP's) would find a way to monetize their bandwidth that was carrying the peer to peer connections.
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I have no idea what any of this means.  

 
Zow said:
I have no idea what any of this means.  
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It  means your phone is basically useless as a communications device without a network it communicates over. We all pay for mobile network access through our mobile network service provider. So if the mobile phone network became the main infrastructure for the "new internet" we'd just end up paying more to our mobile phone providers (and/or the already existing terrestrial network providers if you use wifi rather than the mobile network). Maybe he's inventing some new kind of peer to peer protocol that every phone is going to utilize via wifi. There's still the problem that the price of most phones is subsidized by being bundled with the carrier's plan - so decoupling the phone from a carrier's network wouldn't mean things are totally free, the price of your device would probably go up. It's not really worth going in to more detail - it's basically a b.s. technology they're thrown together just to keep some plot going.

To put it more succinctly, for the purposes of the show, it's not important - just enjoy the ride.

 
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NewlyRetired said:
As a tech geek and some one who enjoys the business side of things, my interest in this (stipulating that it would ever be feasible) would be the underestimation on Richards part about the internet being free.

I believe he would just be moving the problem.  

Even if you could remove every ISP server in the world, the technology that carries the data is not free.  My guess is that the cell phone carriers (which in some cases is the same as the ISP's) would find a way to monetize their bandwidth that was carrying the peer to peer connections.
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ah

 
NewlyRetired said:
As a tech geek and some one who enjoys the business side of things, my interest in this (stipulating that it would ever be feasible) would be the underestimation on Richards part about the internet being free.

I believe he would just be moving the problem.  

Even if you could remove every ISP server in the world, the technology that carries the data is not free.  My guess is that the cell phone carriers (which in some cases is the same as the ISP's) would find a way to monetize their bandwidth that was carrying the peer to peer connections.
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It sort of sounds like the idea is to move all the content on the internet off servers and into a cloud environment using people's mobile devices instead of server farms. Richard's algorithm would allow for high speed transfer of data among these devices. It would mean that something like AWS (which I'm guessing is a similar service to what Hooli offers) no longer needed. And while you'd still have to pay for network access, theoretically no one would have to pay to host apps and content.

 
bcdjr1 said:
It sort of sounds like the idea is to move all the content on the internet off servers and into a cloud environment using people's mobile devices instead of server farms. Richard's algorithm would allow for high speed transfer of data among these devices. It would mean that something like AWS (which I'm guessing is a similar service to what Hooli offers) no longer needed. And while you'd still have to pay for network access, theoretically no one would have to pay to host apps and content.
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AWS has been mentioned often by Erlich. Wondering if that is a subtle sponsorship.

 
bcdjr1 said:
Wasn't he cursing it? Is that something a company would want to pay for?
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It's never bad press, but it's come up multiple times this season. We haven't heard them name a single other real company this season. It just struck me when I heard it again.

 
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