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Maybe - seems very game script dependent. He could very easily have more games of 12-15 carries against tough defenses, and/or while the skins are playing catch-up.
secondary, which opened up everything on the ground against the 3rd string linebacking corps.
The beauty of this silly game is that we will know for sure in time.Maybe - seems very game script dependent. He could very easily have more games of 12-15 carries against tough defenses, and/or while the skins are playing catch-up.
Kelley could do what he wanted against GB because cousins was slinging the ball all over the place against GBs shot to
but against a decent defense this is probably very much what you can expect from Kelley. A 2-down plodder.
Tough to trust.
Should be very soon since the next game is against the very much "for real" AZ defense.
I also questioned the play call at the time and believe it was Jordan Reed that totally whiffed his blocking assignment. I'm not shocked by the lack of production on the 14 carries. Kelley's strength is not speed or incredible change of direction, yet i saw a lot of runs going sideways instead of north/south. If they had played to his strengths and got a little better line play...and blocking from their TE, the stat line would have benefited.
So you think the key to this game would have been running Kelley up the middle, into the teeth of their run defense?
Yikes....that's absolutely brutal.
I'm pretty sure from here out it's going to be bad game, bad game, bad game, bad game, etc.
The usual Shark Pool way to play the game is more along the lines of:
I think its more like this.
While a truly hilarious summary, IMO this topic has run well beyond this scope since week 1.
up and it's hard to knock the guy for that. But the big picture sure seems like he took what the Packers game him (which was a lot!) and in a very favorable game script. 
I don't see this at all. I've been down on him plenty and never once disappeared after he had a good game.
I own Kelley and will be looking to offload him this offseason. I do believe the Washington situation plays a HUGE part in his success. But we have seen what good systems can do for backs. (see Denver). Do I believe he is an elite player? No. Do I believe he is a just a guy? No. I believe he is somewhere in the middle. As sauce pointed out above, the next few weeks will be telling. Sadly, my trade deadline has passed so I'm frozen until the offseason. Hopefully, his value goes up. If he tears it up despite the tough matchups, I might consider keeping him based on situation alone. The Redskins keep defenses honest and sustain drives. That is a recipe for success.
I agree with his post, we could all use to try to be a little more unbiased. I do what he said too but I try my best to be aware of it and not do it. Intellectual honesty helps the board be better. We are all wrong all the time, no reason we can't admit it.I don't see this at all. I've been down on him plenty and never once disappeared after he had a good game.
going through this topic I don't see anything resembling this ridiculous narrative.
Most are discussing FFB and the prospects of a vey unlikely RB performing.
but hey, way to make it personal and insult 99% of the forum with a sweeping generalization / personal attack.
Speaking only for myself, my self-worth has nothing to do with whether or not I make a good or bad call about an NFL player. I'm reasonably sure that 99% you just called out simply enjoys discussing fantasy football and most of them have the betterment of the community at heart when offering insight/opinion.
What a negative twisted view of the members here you have. Wow.
Agreed, it shouldn't be insulting. It's human nature and we are all striving to rise above our biases to make good evaluations.georg013 said:
I think you're close - he is a JAG who sometimes has above average vision. I've been impressed by his ability to turn -3 yards into 0 yards.
If THAT was insulting, please dont set foot in the Eric Ebron thread. That comment was Diet Coke. If it doesn't apply to you, move on. But for some, that DEFINITELY ressonated.
Ok.georg013 said:
Oh I didn't think it was, I just disagree that 99% of the forum is that emotionally invested in what they post. Most of it's just throwing crap at the wall to see what sticks.
It's all good, I didn't mean to call anyone out for being wrong if that's how it came across. Just reminding us, including myself, that fantasy scoring output and stats isn't always the complete picture which we sometimes get caught up in.
In the 4th quarter yesterday Kelly did get a carry where it looked like the ball broke the goal line, but the Skins didn't challenge it (the announcers were saying threy should have.). The next play was the QB sneak for a TD. SO FRUSTRATING!
Pretty sure that train has sailed, but what seems likely is that Kelley may have played himself out of a possible starting gig next season.
What struggles? His YPC in the games since he took over: 4.1, 4.4, 5.7, 2.6, 4.5 and ZERO fumbles.
Nothing in the skins losses can be attributed to Kelley. His numbers being down have been driven down by Dallas having a big lead and being in catch up mode and AZ having a good defense and the lead. He still has a couple of tough match ups on the schedule but barring injury he has secured the job for good over Jones.
PHI, CAR, CHI dont look like tough matchups to me. He could get 20 carries a game. All those teams are terrible.
I agree for this year - what do you think about his prospects of entering 2017 as the starting RB?
My hope is that CAR packs it in! That is our Championship week and I am the favorite at 11-2.
I see him starting the year as the starter but if he doesn't burnish his receiving chops he may not keep it. Would be nice if he pulled an Ingram and started catching passes like Ingram did last year.
yeah me too. I have 7 WRs on my team (most of them WR2-3s) and I am still leaning towards flexing Kelley over two of these Adams, Moncrief, & Pryor.
