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nittanylion
Footballguy
Woke up this AM to find this unposted from yesterday. Sorry.
13.02: Danny Woodhead, RB Chargers...Fiddles PM'd.
13.02: Danny Woodhead, RB Chargers...Fiddles PM'd.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Did not get a PM I was up.
13.16 Miami Dolphins-Def/ST
14.01 Greg Z-PK
13.16 Miami Dolphins-Def/ST
14.01 Greg Z-PK
BroadwayG
Footballguy
13.09 201. KRSone21 Giants, New York NYG Def13.10 202. Carolina Hustler Manuel, E.J. BUF QB13.11 203. Renesauz Cowboys, Dallas DAL Def13.12 204. Fullback Fro Vikings, Minnesota MIN Def13.13 205. Broadway G Redskins, Washington WAS Def13.14 206. Go Pack Gostkowski, Stephen NEP PK 13.15 207. Jeff Pasquino Bryant, Matt ATL PK13.16 208. Ministry of Pain Dolphins, Miami MIA Def 14.01 209. Ministry of Pain Zuerlein, Greg STL PK 14.02 210. Jeff Pasquino Titans, Tennessee TEN Def 14.03 211. Go Pack Thomas, Daniel MIA RB 14.04 212. Broadway G Walsh, Blair MIN PK14.05 213. Fullback Fro Saints, New Orleans NOS Def 14.06 214. Renesauz Prater, Matt DEN PK14.07 215. Carolina Hustler Floyd, Malcom SDC WR14.08 216. KRSone21 Burleson, Nate DET WR14.09 217. Shawdowfax Walker, Delanie TEN TE14.10 218. Dpeease Greene, Shonn TEN RB14.11 219. Comet Tucker, Justin BAL PK
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Sorry guys - was monitoring all weekend on my phone to keep up to date... couldn't PM. (Was lucky not to miss a pick, actually).
We're good on time now. I think we finish this week if we stay on top of it. Good draft so far.
We're good on time now. I think we finish this week if we stay on top of it. Good draft so far.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
I updated Post 1 again.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
surprising turn of events today.
Somewhat surprised with the slowness at this turn, and the lack of pre-drafting at this stage - but mostly surprised that captain Hook hasn't had an embolism yet.
Somewhat surprised with the slowness at this turn, and the lack of pre-drafting at this stage - but mostly surprised that captain Hook hasn't had an embolism yet.
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nittanylion
Footballguy
14.14 Kai Forbath, PK Redskins - Fiddles
14.15 Garrett Hartley, PK Saints - nittanylion
HNR PM'd
14.15 Garrett Hartley, PK Saints - nittanylion
HNR PM'd
krsone21
Footballguy
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Seriously?
No predraft at the turn?
No predraft at the turn?
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
11.15 175. Jeff Pasquino Patriots, New England NEP Def Fri May 10 12:27:43 p.m. ET 2013 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List7.15 111. Jeff Pasquino Moore, Denarius OAK WR Mon May 6 8:01:54 p.m. ET 2013 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List
8.02 114. Jeff Pasquino Rivers, Philip SDC QB Mon May 6 9:01:22 p.m. ET 2013 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List
9.15 143. Jeff Pasquino Sanders, Emmanuel PIT WR Wed May 8 11:33:16 a.m. ET 2013 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List Absolutely thrilled to see him still here. I almost took him last round when I took Denarius Moore, so very glad to get both of them and have Sanders as my WR4. (Comments Added Wed May 8 11:50:40 a.m. ET 2013)
10.02 146. Jeff Pasquino Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB Wed May 8 1:09:50 p.m. ET 2013
For my last 4 picks, I went WR3, QB2, WR4 and RB3.
The reasons are pretty simple - supply and demand.
I have maybe 24-25 QBs that I think are locked in as starters and worth owning. I don't want to be wondering if I will get a zero from my QB2, so I wanted to lock that position down first as my first backup (QB2). The scarcity at QB for starters told me all I needed to know as far as what to target at the 7/8 turn. I sort of wanted Bradford instead of Rivers, but once Bradford went (nice pick Broadway G) I took my WR3 in Denarius Moore first (knowing I'd get Rivers or another QB on my list right behind him) after MoP's 2 picks.
Having done WSL and PDSL and knowing that the QB2 run would come, the time was right to get Rivers before it got to the bottom of the barrel.
As for Moore, I like Oakland to throw more and Denarius should be the top target, especially with Myers gone. I nearly took Emmanuel Sanders there, and I was thrilled to see him come all the way back to me at WR4, which is arguably the most important backup on a survivor team (covers 3 WR byes).
The last pick has boom/bust written all over it, but DeAngelo Williams is a home-run hitting RB and as my RB3 with about 45 RBs already gone, I love the value I got in him. I think he sticks in Carolina one more season.
Team:
QB - Matt Ryan (6), Philip Rivers (8)
RB - Alfred Morris (5), Vick Ballard (8), DeAngelo Williams (4)
WR - Wes Welker (9), Stevie Johnson (12), Denarius Moore (7), Emmanuel Sanders (5)
TE - Jason Witten (11)
12.02 178. Jeff Pasquino Celek, Brent PHI TE Fri May 10 2:01:43 p.m. ET 2013
13.15 207. Jeff Pasquino Bryant, Matt ATL PK Sun May 12 4:17:49 p.m. ET 2013 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List
14.02 210. Jeff Pasquino Titans, Tennessee TEN Def Sun May 12 7:30:48 p.m. ET 2013
15.15 239. Jeff Pasquino Moss, Santana WAS WR Tue May 14 1:14:50 p.m. ET 2013
The last 6 picks were about defense, kicker, and depth. Went with the Patritos due to a solid (soft) schedule and a usual Top 10 finish, so that's a good start there. Locked up Tennessee as my DEF2 for NE's bye (Jax Week 10 for TEN).
Took Celek as my TE2 as I think Chip Kelly will use 3 TEs early and often - and they will get lots of snaps and targets. Celek will remain the TE1 for one more year in Philly, and I think he's a value pick at TE this year.
PK - Took Matt Bryant as I love dome kickers for high scoring teams. Locking up my second kicker with the Round 16 pick comes next. Just got Mason Crosby, who is a solid option with very little threat in Green Bay (despite rumors to the contrary). The Pack scores a lot, and him as my PK 2 is solid. especially with some big question marks around the league at kicker.
WR5 - Santana Moss. Wanted Justin Hunter to fall (nice pick) or even Markus Wheaton to handcuff to Emmanuel Sanders (that'd be a great strategy) - but alas, didn't happen. Someone else must be high on Wheaton too. I think PITT throws a lot again this year as they try and figure out their ground game. Considered Lloyd (who just went) and Joseph Morgan (don't like him that much) here as well. Just can't trust Lloyd at this point without a home. Moss isn't sexy, but he is a solid WR5.
QB - Matt Ryan (6), Philip Rivers (8)
RB - Alfred Morris (5), Vick Ballard (8), DeAngelo Williams (4)
WR - Wes Welker (9), Stevie Johnson (12), Denarius Moore (7), Emmanuel Sanders (5), Santana Moss (5)
TE - Jason Witten (11), Brent Celek (12)
PK - Matt Bryant (6), Mason Crosby (4)
DEF/ST - New England (10), Tennessee (8)
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Shadowfax
Footballguy
15.16 240. Ministry of Pain Lloyd, Brandon FA* WR Tue May 14 1:33:22 p.m. ET 2013
16.01 241. Ministry of Pain Morgan, Joseph NOS WR Tue May 14 1:34:09 p.m. ET 2013
16.02 242. Jeff Pasquino Crosby, Mason GBP PK Tue May 14 1:34:10 p.m. ET 2013
16.03 243. Go Pack Hauschka, Steven SEA PK Tue May 14 3:23:38 p.m. ET 2013
16.04 244. Broadway G Kerley, Jeremy NYJ WR Tue May 14 3:23:39 p.m. ET 2013
16.05 245. Fullback Fro Henery, Alex PHI PK Tue May 14 5:23:14 p.m. ET 2013
16.06 246. Renesauz Powell, Bilal NYJ RB Tue May 14 5:23:15 p.m. ET 2013
16.07 247. Carolina Hustler Barth, Connor TBB PK Tue May 14 5:23:15 p.m. ET 2013
16.08 248. KRSone21 Bironas, Rob TEN PK Tue May 14 5:23:15 p.m. ET 2013
16.09 249. Shadowfax Brown, Josh NYG PK Tue May 14 5:39:44 p.m. ET 2013
16.01 241. Ministry of Pain Morgan, Joseph NOS WR Tue May 14 1:34:09 p.m. ET 2013
16.02 242. Jeff Pasquino Crosby, Mason GBP PK Tue May 14 1:34:10 p.m. ET 2013
16.03 243. Go Pack Hauschka, Steven SEA PK Tue May 14 3:23:38 p.m. ET 2013
16.04 244. Broadway G Kerley, Jeremy NYJ WR Tue May 14 3:23:39 p.m. ET 2013
16.05 245. Fullback Fro Henery, Alex PHI PK Tue May 14 5:23:14 p.m. ET 2013
16.06 246. Renesauz Powell, Bilal NYJ RB Tue May 14 5:23:15 p.m. ET 2013
16.07 247. Carolina Hustler Barth, Connor TBB PK Tue May 14 5:23:15 p.m. ET 2013
16.08 248. KRSone21 Bironas, Rob TEN PK Tue May 14 5:23:15 p.m. ET 2013
16.09 249. Shadowfax Brown, Josh NYG PK Tue May 14 5:39:44 p.m. ET 2013
Captain Hook
Footballguy
Did we lose HitNRun? There hasn't been a pick since last night
Tried to PM him and he can't receive any new messages
No email listed and hasn't registered his email on MFL
Tried to PM him and he can't receive any new messages
No email listed and hasn't registered his email on MFL
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krsone21
Footballguy
I tried PM'ing him last night but got the same message as you.
Hopefully he shows up well before he times out at 3:21 PM Eastern time.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Let's get it going. Leaving town later tonight/tom morn
nittanylion
Footballguy
Well, considering that at the point of my last post I was digging myself out of a self-inflicted hole at QB, that was then compounded by the QB Run, I don't think this has wound up half-bad, with only 2 picks remaining.
Got caught on the end of that run, but still managed to land a QB from my list, although he was just one spot above the cut to undraftable, in Jake Locker. Locker comes with some 'if's' - can he stay healthy, and will the Titans be tempted to sub in Ryan Fitz if Locker falters - like Cassell in Minny, Fitz was brought in to pressure Locker into being better...wish I could have gotten someone more stable/durable because it's likely Big Ben will get nicked at some point, although an improved and more versatile running game based around Bell could keep Ben out of harm's way.
At 9.02 I had to start thinking about Ben Tate...would he last 'til 10.15? I thought there was a small chance, maybe 30%, that he'd get back to me, so I looked at where the Draft looked to be headed, and figured I'd take my chances, and still have plenty of options if I missed. Last year, I would have thought differently. I'm very confident in what's going on in Arizona. With that offense receiving some semblance of normalcy, and a year under his belt, I think Mike Floyd has a great chance to outperform ADP, and I was pleased to add him as part of my WR3BC. Feel better about Tampa Mike Williams now...plenty of RB besides Tate were gone by the time it came back to me, but I was pleased that two of the remaining ones were Goodson and Pierre Thomas. Considering Ivory went 6.14, Getting Goodson at 10.15 screams value to me. Yes, he has issues all his own, and that aggregate situation in NYJ isn't great, but still. Pierre Thomas is a great RB3/4 in this format. Really, really enjoyed that pick.
Next turn: 12.15/13.2: Falcons D/ST, Danny Woodhead - didn't reach early on a D, and got Falcons at D/ST 11, very pleased with that. Falcons O is going to benefit the Defense, I think, and put them in position to play with a lead, which I like. Woodhead is a nice add to my RB3BC for PPR.
Next turn: 14.15/15.2: Garret Hartley, Andre Roberts - didn't reach on PK either and landed Hartley at PK9 - dome, check, high scoring offense, check. Love it. Andre Roberts gives me Floyd/Roberts...I don't remotely think the Cards are going to generate enough O to give me 2 studs, but Roberts should generate PPR a-plenty, and it wouldn't surprise me if Floyd and Roberts both put up WR3/4 worthy #'s. I think it's a sensible gamble, because I'm not expecting any more than that out of them, and if they deliver, I'm doing OK.
Just landed Nugent as complimentary PK, and have 2 more selections to go. Feeling better about this Team thanks to some nice depth pickups.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Time to skip him and move this thing forward.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
I skipped the 2nd pick for Hit n Run. He can pick whenever to replace.
krsone21
Footballguy
I'm not sure what you mean by this? If you mean you should have got more time when your 2nd pick was up? But that is not the case. In these survivor mocks people on the tail end get 1 time clock. If you time out on the first pick you time out on both picks at the same time and the draft moves on. That is how its always been.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
I didn't know that and haven't looked at the rules to verify, but I would think the picks on the ends would be treated seperately....that only seems fair....meaning you time out on the first one, then your clock is shortened to 4 hours on the second one......no dog in the race, but I was just on the end in a draft and am curious.....Bass?
if you hadn't previously timed out, you would realistically get 12 hours to get both picks in but you would be on a 4 hour clock the rest of the way
krsone21
Footballguy
This is what it says up top in the rules. "No additional time for the people on the tail end of the snake." How I interpret that is you get 8 hours on the end for both picks. But I couild be wrong, it wouldn't be the firist time. lol
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Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
hmmm...just saw this....
"No additional time for the people on the tail end of the snake."
not 100% sure as to what exactly that means, but if it means both your picks get skipped personally I think it kind of sucks.....getting your clock cut in half is already the punishment....you shouldn't get your second pick skipped too.....if you get in before that second 4 hours is over you should be able to make both your picks and carry on with a 4 hour clock the rest of the way....
as far as holding the draft hostage for 12 hours or something......if a guy on the ends really wanted to be a d-bag he could hold it hostage for darn near 16 hours without breaking a rule.....
"No additional time for the people on the tail end of the snake."
not 100% sure as to what exactly that means, but if it means both your picks get skipped personally I think it kind of sucks.....getting your clock cut in half is already the punishment....you shouldn't get your second pick skipped too.....if you get in before that second 4 hours is over you should be able to make both your picks and carry on with a 4 hour clock the rest of the way....
as far as holding the draft hostage for 12 hours or something......if a guy on the ends really wanted to be a d-bag he could hold it hostage for darn near 16 hours without breaking a rule.....
HitNRun
Footballguy
I didn't know that......sounds pretty dumb though.....I guess it is good to know. Never timed out before. Nice double whammy. Lol. No biggie. I made my picks. Let's move on.
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BassNBrew
Footballguy
Owners in the 1 and 16 positions only get one clock for both picks together. As you stated. They could hold the draft hostage for nearly 24 hours everytime. This way they are in the same boat as the rest of us except they are only there half as often. The rule has been this way and enforced this way.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
GL everyone, I'll be lucky to make SSL3 next year.
BroadwayG
Footballguy
Flacco - 8 (6)
Bradford - 11 (7)
L. Bell - 5 (5)
B Brown - 12 (9)
B Pierce - 8 (10)
J Randel - 11 (17)
J Jones - 6 (1)
V Cruz - 9 (3)
D Bowe - 10 (4)
K Wright - 8 (8)
J Kerley - 10 (16)
B Gibson - 6 (18)
R Gronkowski - 10 (2)
R Housler - 9 (11)
B Walsh - 5 (14)
N Novak - 8 (15)
Packers - 4 (12)
Redskins - 5 (13)
K and D completed, gave extra weight for early byes. Added Randle, Kerley, and Gibson at positions. I tossed Gilleslee and Randle around for my RB4, opted for Randle despite the thumb issue solely for the better offense and the likelihood of Murray missing time. Gibson steps into the Bess role, which was pretty lucrative in the past, was happy to get him in the last round. Kerley is another slot guy going extremely late that I think will well outperform his draft position.
I ended up with a middling to weak QB duo, which I will take considering my wait and the massive early QB runs. RB is obviously a disaster with no obvious RB1, but there's a large amount of potential, which at least one of the 4 will need to tap for me to compete. I feel pretty stacked at WR once Cruz signs, and will need a hot start at this position to keep me alive until (hopefully) one of the RBs pans out to be a consistent scorer. Gronkowski's health could be the key to surviving past the first few weeks.
Overall I'm feeling pretty good. A lot of these are won with train wrecks of a RB squad, but I never hear about winners skimping by on 3 part time receivers.
Prediction: Out before the byes when both QBs have a stinker, then a lot of wasted high scores in the latter half of the season.
Bradford - 11 (7)
L. Bell - 5 (5)
B Brown - 12 (9)
B Pierce - 8 (10)
J Randel - 11 (17)
J Jones - 6 (1)
V Cruz - 9 (3)
D Bowe - 10 (4)
K Wright - 8 (8)
J Kerley - 10 (16)
B Gibson - 6 (18)
R Gronkowski - 10 (2)
R Housler - 9 (11)
B Walsh - 5 (14)
N Novak - 8 (15)
Packers - 4 (12)
Redskins - 5 (13)
K and D completed, gave extra weight for early byes. Added Randle, Kerley, and Gibson at positions. I tossed Gilleslee and Randle around for my RB4, opted for Randle despite the thumb issue solely for the better offense and the likelihood of Murray missing time. Gibson steps into the Bess role, which was pretty lucrative in the past, was happy to get him in the last round. Kerley is another slot guy going extremely late that I think will well outperform his draft position.
I ended up with a middling to weak QB duo, which I will take considering my wait and the massive early QB runs. RB is obviously a disaster with no obvious RB1, but there's a large amount of potential, which at least one of the 4 will need to tap for me to compete. I feel pretty stacked at WR once Cruz signs, and will need a hot start at this position to keep me alive until (hopefully) one of the RBs pans out to be a consistent scorer. Gronkowski's health could be the key to surviving past the first few weeks.
Overall I'm feeling pretty good. A lot of these are won with train wrecks of a RB squad, but I never hear about winners skimping by on 3 part time receivers.
Prediction: Out before the byes when both QBs have a stinker, then a lot of wasted high scores in the latter half of the season.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
wow you guys picked my lists clean. Wanted Avery or Kerley - gone. Wanted JRandle or a 'cuff in Brown to VBallard - both gone. Good picks.
Not sure if Gillislee will help me or not, but worth a shot as a RB4.
Not sure if Gillislee will help me or not, but worth a shot as a RB4.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Why did Shadowfax get skipped?
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
I backed it up to his turn.... didn't see why he'd be skipped.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
17.15 271. Jeff Pasquino Williams, Terrance DAL WR Wed May 15 11:48:33 p.m. ET 2013 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List11.15 175. Jeff Pasquino Patriots, New England NEP Def Fri May 10 12:27:43 p.m. ET 2013 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List7.15 111. Jeff Pasquino Moore, Denarius OAK WR Mon May 6 8:01:54 p.m. ET 2013 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List
8.02 114. Jeff Pasquino Rivers, Philip SDC QB Mon May 6 9:01:22 p.m. ET 2013 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List
9.15 143. Jeff Pasquino Sanders, Emmanuel PIT WR Wed May 8 11:33:16 a.m. ET 2013 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List Absolutely thrilled to see him still here. I almost took him last round when I took Denarius Moore, so very glad to get both of them and have Sanders as my WR4. (Comments Added Wed May 8 11:50:40 a.m. ET 2013)
10.02 146. Jeff Pasquino Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB Wed May 8 1:09:50 p.m. ET 2013
For my last 4 picks, I went WR3, QB2, WR4 and RB3.
The reasons are pretty simple - supply and demand.
I have maybe 24-25 QBs that I think are locked in as starters and worth owning. I don't want to be wondering if I will get a zero from my QB2, so I wanted to lock that position down first as my first backup (QB2). The scarcity at QB for starters told me all I needed to know as far as what to target at the 7/8 turn. I sort of wanted Bradford instead of Rivers, but once Bradford went (nice pick Broadway G) I took my WR3 in Denarius Moore first (knowing I'd get Rivers or another QB on my list right behind him) after MoP's 2 picks.
Having done WSL and PDSL and knowing that the QB2 run would come, the time was right to get Rivers before it got to the bottom of the barrel.
As for Moore, I like Oakland to throw more and Denarius should be the top target, especially with Myers gone. I nearly took Emmanuel Sanders there, and I was thrilled to see him come all the way back to me at WR4, which is arguably the most important backup on a survivor team (covers 3 WR byes).
The last pick has boom/bust written all over it, but DeAngelo Williams is a home-run hitting RB and as my RB3 with about 45 RBs already gone, I love the value I got in him. I think he sticks in Carolina one more season.
Team:
QB - Matt Ryan (6), Philip Rivers (8)
RB - Alfred Morris (5), Vick Ballard (8), DeAngelo Williams (4)
WR - Wes Welker (9), Stevie Johnson (12), Denarius Moore (7), Emmanuel Sanders (5)
TE - Jason Witten (11)
12.02 178. Jeff Pasquino Celek, Brent PHI TE Fri May 10 2:01:43 p.m. ET 2013
13.15 207. Jeff Pasquino Bryant, Matt ATL PK Sun May 12 4:17:49 p.m. ET 2013 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List
14.02 210. Jeff Pasquino Titans, Tennessee TEN Def Sun May 12 7:30:48 p.m. ET 2013
15.15 239. Jeff Pasquino Moss, Santana WAS WR Tue May 14 1:14:50 p.m. ET 2013
16.02 242. Jeff Pasquino Crosby, Mason GBP PK Tue May 14 1:34:10 p.m. ET 2013 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List
The last 6 picks were about defense, kicker, and depth. Went with the Patritos due to a solid (soft) schedule and a usual Top 10 finish, so that's a good start there. Locked up Tennessee as my DEF2 for NE's bye (Jax Week 10 for TEN).
Took Celek as my TE2 as I think Chip Kelly will use 3 TEs early and often - and they will get lots of snaps and targets. Celek will remain the TE1 for one more year in Philly, and I think he's a value pick at TE this year.
PK - Took Matt Bryant as I love dome kickers for high scoring teams. Locking up my second kicker with the Round 16 pick comes next. Just got Mason Crosby, who is a solid option with very little threat in Green Bay (despite rumors to the contrary). The Pack scores a lot, and him as my PK 2 is solid. especially with some big question marks around the league at kicker.
WR5 - Santana Moss. Wanted Justin Hunter to fall (nice pick) or even Markus Wheaton to handcuff to Emmanuel Sanders (that'd be a great strategy) - but alas, didn't happen. Someone else must be high on Wheaton too. I think PITT throws a lot again this year as they try and figure out their ground game. Considered Lloyd (who just went) and Joseph Morgan (don't like him that much) here as well. Just can't trust Lloyd at this point without a home. Moss isn't sexy, but he is a solid WR5.
QB - Matt Ryan (6), Philip Rivers (8)
RB - Alfred Morris (5), Vick Ballard (8), DeAngelo Williams (4)
WR - Wes Welker (9), Stevie Johnson (12), Denarius Moore (7), Emmanuel Sanders (5), Santana Moss (5)
TE - Jason Witten (11), Brent Celek (12)
PK - Matt Bryant (6), Mason Crosby (4)
DEF/ST - New England (10), Tennessee (8)
18.02 274. Jeff Pasquino Gillislee, Mike MIA RB Thu May 16 12:17:27 a.m. ET 2013 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List
Final two picks for depth, RB4 and WR6. Thought I might get J. Randle or even D. Brown to go with V. Ballard - but no such luck. (Was going WR before RB since MoP likely wasn't going for a RB5). Sniped on both backs - good job drafting. Gillislee is a shot in the dark, and depends on if Lamar Miller falls flat or not. Gillislee might see some touches, who knows. They drafted him for a reason.
WR6 - again, wanted someone link Kerley or Avery, but no such luck. Hopefully TWilliams gets deep and open a few times for Romo.
With any luck, if my first 16 picks are solid, the 17/18 turn shouldn't matter much. If that's my worst complaint then I've had a good draft.
Fun draft, and it should be interesting to see it play out.
Final Roster:
QB - Matt Ryan (6), Philip Rivers (8)
RB - Alfred Morris (5), Vick Ballard (8), DeAngelo Williams (4), Mike Gillislee (6)
WR - Wes Welker (9), Stevie Johnson (12), Denarius Moore (7), Emmanuel Sanders (5), Santana Moss (5), Terrance Williams (11)
TE - Jason Witten (11), Brent Celek (12)
PK - Matt Bryant (6), Mason Crosby (4)
DEF/ST - New England (10), Tennessee (8)
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Shadowfax
Footballguy
Thanks. Don't know if it mattered or not with me taking Vinatieri. For an 18th round pick, I struggled a lot debating whether to take a second kicker or backup my QB2/Flynn with Tyler Wilson. I don't like the Week 12 bye for Russell Wilson with Flynn as my QB2. Flynn could lose the job by then but I gambled he doesn't and that the extra PK scoring will help more often. Still not sure I made the right choice.
krsone21
Footballguy
2.08 Tom Brady QB NE (10)
8.08 Carson Palmer QB ARI (9)
I'm pleased with my two QB's. I wasn't really targeting a QB early but Brady seemed like too good of value to not pick him at 2.08. Brady should remain in the top 4 in scoring this year, he averaged 29.5 points in this scoring format last season. I'm glad I was able to land Carson Palmer with the 8.08 pick. After getting Tom Brady I knew I would want to wait as long as possible to get my backup while working on my WR and RB core in between. I was worried there for a moment that I waited 1 round too long and was going to be left with an undesirable backup QB. I think Carson Palmer will make an excellent later round round backup. Palmer averaged 22.8 points a game last year in this format and with a better WR core to throw too I can't see him getting any worse and probably improve on those numbers slightly.
1.09 Ray Rice RB BAL (8)
3.09 Darren Sproles RB NO (7)
7.09 Shane Vereen RB NE (10)
17.09 Mike Tolbert RB CAR (4)
I like my RB group. I got a #1 RB in Ray Rice & my #2 RB in Darren Sproles. Vereen & Tolbert can have the occasional big game which is perfect for this format. I should be able to get 2 good scored most weeks.
4.08 Reggie Wayne WR IND (8)
5.09 James Jones WR GB (4)
6.08 Miles Austin WR DAL (11)
11.09 Greg Little WR CLE 10)
14.08 Nate Burleson WR DET (9)
18.08 Jacoby Ford WR OAK (7)
I like my WR group as well. As long as Austin and Ford stay healthy then I think this group will get me 3 good scored every week. Don't get me wrong this group does have its question marks and has some risk in it. Will Austin and Ford stay healthy? Will Little continue to show improvement? Finally, will Burleson be able to hold on to the #2 receiving job? If the answer is yes too those 3 questions then I have no doubt this group will do well for me.
9.09 Fred Davis TE WAS (5)
10.08 Tyler Eifert TE CIN (12)
I wanted to try something different and see how long I could wait before I had to start getting my TE's because usally I get a TE early. Well that plan didn't work out so well I waited 1 round too long and ended up with Fred Davis and Eifert. This is bar far my weekest group. That being said this may not be a total loss. IF Davis can get back to what he did in 2011 and IF Eifert gets all used as often at I think the Bengals will use him I might be o.k. at this position. That's a lot of IF's though. If this were a 20 round draft instead of an 18 round draft I would have drafted a third TE to give another option just in case, but with only 18 spots those last couple of pick had to be used on my RB and WR core.
15.09 Dan Bailey PK DAL (11)
16.08 Roob Bironas PK TEN (8)
Normally I wait as long as possible to get my kickers but once again I wanted to try something different in this draft and get a couple early and see how that worked for me for a change. Bailey will score in the top 10 range for kickers and Bironas is a good kicker that gets the job done and should be a top 20 kicker.
12.08 Chicago Bears D/ST (8)
13.09 New York Giants D/ST (9)
I tried the same strategy with my defenses this time around as well. Normally I wait as long as possible and just grab any two defenses but I wanted to grab a couple early and see how that worked. The Bears finished first last year and the Giants finished 16th in this format last year. If Both can finish in the top 16 again this year I should do well at the D/ST position this year.
Other than my TE's I like this team. Only time will tell though if I drafted well or not.
8.08 Carson Palmer QB ARI (9)
I'm pleased with my two QB's. I wasn't really targeting a QB early but Brady seemed like too good of value to not pick him at 2.08. Brady should remain in the top 4 in scoring this year, he averaged 29.5 points in this scoring format last season. I'm glad I was able to land Carson Palmer with the 8.08 pick. After getting Tom Brady I knew I would want to wait as long as possible to get my backup while working on my WR and RB core in between. I was worried there for a moment that I waited 1 round too long and was going to be left with an undesirable backup QB. I think Carson Palmer will make an excellent later round round backup. Palmer averaged 22.8 points a game last year in this format and with a better WR core to throw too I can't see him getting any worse and probably improve on those numbers slightly.
1.09 Ray Rice RB BAL (8)
3.09 Darren Sproles RB NO (7)
7.09 Shane Vereen RB NE (10)
17.09 Mike Tolbert RB CAR (4)
I like my RB group. I got a #1 RB in Ray Rice & my #2 RB in Darren Sproles. Vereen & Tolbert can have the occasional big game which is perfect for this format. I should be able to get 2 good scored most weeks.
4.08 Reggie Wayne WR IND (8)
5.09 James Jones WR GB (4)
6.08 Miles Austin WR DAL (11)
11.09 Greg Little WR CLE 10)
14.08 Nate Burleson WR DET (9)
18.08 Jacoby Ford WR OAK (7)
I like my WR group as well. As long as Austin and Ford stay healthy then I think this group will get me 3 good scored every week. Don't get me wrong this group does have its question marks and has some risk in it. Will Austin and Ford stay healthy? Will Little continue to show improvement? Finally, will Burleson be able to hold on to the #2 receiving job? If the answer is yes too those 3 questions then I have no doubt this group will do well for me.
9.09 Fred Davis TE WAS (5)
10.08 Tyler Eifert TE CIN (12)
I wanted to try something different and see how long I could wait before I had to start getting my TE's because usally I get a TE early. Well that plan didn't work out so well I waited 1 round too long and ended up with Fred Davis and Eifert. This is bar far my weekest group. That being said this may not be a total loss. IF Davis can get back to what he did in 2011 and IF Eifert gets all used as often at I think the Bengals will use him I might be o.k. at this position. That's a lot of IF's though. If this were a 20 round draft instead of an 18 round draft I would have drafted a third TE to give another option just in case, but with only 18 spots those last couple of pick had to be used on my RB and WR core.
15.09 Dan Bailey PK DAL (11)
16.08 Roob Bironas PK TEN (8)
Normally I wait as long as possible to get my kickers but once again I wanted to try something different in this draft and get a couple early and see how that worked for me for a change. Bailey will score in the top 10 range for kickers and Bironas is a good kicker that gets the job done and should be a top 20 kicker.
12.08 Chicago Bears D/ST (8)
13.09 New York Giants D/ST (9)
I tried the same strategy with my defenses this time around as well. Normally I wait as long as possible and just grab any two defenses but I wanted to grab a couple early and see how that worked. The Bears finished first last year and the Giants finished 16th in this format last year. If Both can finish in the top 16 again this year I should do well at the D/ST position this year.
Other than my TE's I like this team. Only time will tell though if I drafted well or not.
Mr. Irrelevant
IBL Representative
I'm interloping from SSL4, but our two teams are so similar in strategy and character I couldn't resist (and If I'd pulled the trigger on James Jones at 6.15 instead of taking Josh Freeman, they'd be almost identical).
Seems like another validation of the theory that despite the heavy PPR scoring system, getting 2 RB's early was the way to go this year. Beyond that you've got a good mix of consistent performers and high-upside guys, experience and youth, and even some decent depth with guys like Palmer, Vereen, and Little (a flat-out steal at 11.09). I think you'll be a real tough out.
I hope Eifert bombs, though, because instead of Davis and Eifert as my TEBC I've got Davis and Gresham.
krsone21
Footballguy
Maybe if we are both lucky Eifert & Gresham are the new Gronkowski & Hernandez.I'm interloping from SSL4, but our two teams are so similar in strategy and character I couldn't resist (and If I'd pulled the trigger on James Jones at 6.15 instead of taking Josh Freeman, they'd be almost identical).
Seems like another validation of the theory that despite the heavy PPR scoring system, getting 2 RB's early was the way to go this year. Beyond that you've got a good mix of consistent performers and high-upside guys, experience and youth, and even some decent depth with guys like Palmer, Vereen, and Little (a flat-out steal at 11.09). I think you'll be a real tough out.
I hope Eifert bombs, though, because instead of Davis and Eifert as my TEBC I've got Davis and Gresham.
A guy can hope can't he. 
Shadowfax
Footballguy
Take a seat...this is going to be a while.
4.09 Russell Wilson-12, QB9
9.08 Matt Flynn-7, QB29
Good. Better if Flynn is the starter all year.
2.09 Steven Jackson-6, RB13
3.08 David Wilson-9, RB20
8.09 Mark Ingram-7, RB37
15.08 Michael Bush-8, RB61
Like it. Jackson/Wilson good RB1s. Expecting Ingram to be more involved this year. Bush is a great RB4…will score and could become a RB1/2 if Forte is injured.
5.08 Greg Jennings-5, WR27
6.09 Cecil Shorts-9, WR35
7.08 Danario Alexander-8, WR41
10.09 Aaron Dobson-10, WR53
12.09 Brandon LaFell-4, WR66
17.08 Donnie Avery-10, WR81
Weak link in the team but receiving corps is better if TE is included. Would really help if DX stays healthly and repeats numbers from last year…that and if Dobson can be somewhat relevant. He should play Lloyd’s position last year and he got 130 targets.
1.08 Jimmy Graham-7, TE1
14.09 Delanie Walker-8, TE28
Stud plus potential.
16.09 Josh Brown-9, PK20
18.09 Adam Vinatieri-8, PK28
11.08 San Francisco-9, DST2
13.08 St. Louis-11, DST16
Overall, I think Flynn and the WR corps will make or break this team.
Thoughts during the draft...
1.08 Jimmy Graham-7, TE1
I wanted to change it up for this draft and not start off with a RB. My feeling was I could get 2 similar RBs in rounds 2-3 and start the draft with the #1 player at WR or TE. Calvin was gone and Rice almost made me change my mind but stuck with my plan. You're welcome krsone21.
2.09 Steven Jackson-6, RB13
3.08 David Wilson-9, RB20
As I thought, I was able to get 2 very good RB1s. IMO, Jackson is in line for a great year. Great offense, he’ll have room to run, get majority of carries, his YPC will increase, he can catch, GL back…this should add up to 1500 total yards and double digit TDs. I was hoping for Bush or Ridley but settled on Wilson. Hopefully, he lives up to 3rd round status. Thought about Sproles but didn’t want to double dip on NO players this early. Almost took Vincent Jackson here but getting 2 solid starting RBs was the priority.
4.09 Russell Wilson-12, QB9
Round 4 seems to be the value round for QBs this year. Couldn’t believe Cam almost dropped to me here (nice pickup by rene in the 4th). Decided on Wilson over RGIII (injury concern), Stafford (same bye as David Wilson) and Romo (preference). I was targeting Wayne here but krsone21 sniped him right before me…and it became a damn theme with him the whole draft. In hindsight, I think it worked out ok because my QB tier was wiped clean before my round 5 pick.
5.08 Greg Jennings-5, WR27
6.09 Cecil Shorts-9, WR35
7.08 Danario Alexander-8, WR41
4 rounds and no WRs yet so time to hammer away at this position. Risky with Ponder and Gabbert throwing to my top 2 but they’re going to have to get targets. Make the most of ‘em boys! DX is a mismatch 1 on 1 but seems like he struggles with double coverage so hopefully with Brown/Allen/Floyd/Gates, he won’t see that safety over the top. Overall, I’m ok with this group and have some hopes for it despite waiting 4 1/2 rounds.
8.09 Mark Ingram-7, RB37
9.08 Matt Flynn-7, QB29
2 picks I regret. I like Ingram this year. He seemed to come on a bit at the end of last year and with him and Graham, I’m hoping for a plethora of TDs. And with all the teams after me in need of RB3, I went with Ingram , bucked the stupid QB2 run (damn krsone who sniped Palmer), hoped others would follow. That backfired and I should have taken Locker with 8.09. I panicked and then followed up that mistake with drafting Flynn. Carolina Hustler, Go Pack and MOP all needed QB2 so I needed to pull the trigger. Not sure if they would have drafted him, as they all continued to pass on QB2 for a couple rounds more. It might work out but will Flynn even be starting the season, let alone week 12 when I need him? Could be a wasted pick in the 9th round and I should have went with my gut in WRs Hopkins or Sanders.
10.09 Aaron Dobson-10, WR53
11.08 San Francisco-9, DST2
12.09 Brandon LaFell-4, WR66
13.08 St. Louis-11, DST16
14.09 Delanie Walker-8, TE28
15.08 Michael Bush-8, RB61
16.09 Josh Brown-9, PK20
17.08 Donnie Avery-10, WR81
18.09 Adam Vinatieri-8, PK28
Time to fill out the rest of squad with depth and PK/DEF. Dobson might have been early but I didn’t care for anyone else so he was my swing for the fences pick. Followed him up with LaFell, who should be good for 8-10 points per week and really score for me those weeks with a TD. Avery’s the #2 in KC right now , caught 60 balls last year and should score every now and then.
Wanted Cameron as my TE2 but his ADP is rising so I sloughed this position off as long as I could. Was between Walker and Miller (Sea) but I may not have a QB in Week 12 so I didn’t want any other players on that bye week, so Walker it was. Bush is a good RB4 (RB61) and surprised he lasted this long. Didn’t have a great year last year due to injuries but doesn’t need a lot of carries to score for me due to vulturing Forte’s TDs…and Bush has proven to be able to carry the load for a while if Forte does go down.
Unusual for me but went early on defenses grabbing SF and StL. Didn’t think about at the time but wonder if I shouldn’t be drafting team from the same division? I felt I could wait on PK, as some teams like to only draft 1 PK and there don’t seem to be as many questions right now with the PK position…and it seems to work out. Still not sure if drafting Vinatieri was the better move then protecting my round 9 Flynn pick with Tyler Wilson. I’m regretting my decision a little but I think I would be regretting my decision either way. I’d like to know what you guys would have done…PK2 or Wilson?
4.09 Russell Wilson-12, QB9
9.08 Matt Flynn-7, QB29
Good. Better if Flynn is the starter all year.
2.09 Steven Jackson-6, RB13
3.08 David Wilson-9, RB20
8.09 Mark Ingram-7, RB37
15.08 Michael Bush-8, RB61
Like it. Jackson/Wilson good RB1s. Expecting Ingram to be more involved this year. Bush is a great RB4…will score and could become a RB1/2 if Forte is injured.
5.08 Greg Jennings-5, WR27
6.09 Cecil Shorts-9, WR35
7.08 Danario Alexander-8, WR41
10.09 Aaron Dobson-10, WR53
12.09 Brandon LaFell-4, WR66
17.08 Donnie Avery-10, WR81
Weak link in the team but receiving corps is better if TE is included. Would really help if DX stays healthly and repeats numbers from last year…that and if Dobson can be somewhat relevant. He should play Lloyd’s position last year and he got 130 targets.
1.08 Jimmy Graham-7, TE1
14.09 Delanie Walker-8, TE28
Stud plus potential.
16.09 Josh Brown-9, PK20
18.09 Adam Vinatieri-8, PK28
11.08 San Francisco-9, DST2
13.08 St. Louis-11, DST16
Overall, I think Flynn and the WR corps will make or break this team.
Thoughts during the draft...
1.08 Jimmy Graham-7, TE1
I wanted to change it up for this draft and not start off with a RB. My feeling was I could get 2 similar RBs in rounds 2-3 and start the draft with the #1 player at WR or TE. Calvin was gone and Rice almost made me change my mind but stuck with my plan. You're welcome krsone21.
2.09 Steven Jackson-6, RB13
3.08 David Wilson-9, RB20
As I thought, I was able to get 2 very good RB1s. IMO, Jackson is in line for a great year. Great offense, he’ll have room to run, get majority of carries, his YPC will increase, he can catch, GL back…this should add up to 1500 total yards and double digit TDs. I was hoping for Bush or Ridley but settled on Wilson. Hopefully, he lives up to 3rd round status. Thought about Sproles but didn’t want to double dip on NO players this early. Almost took Vincent Jackson here but getting 2 solid starting RBs was the priority.
4.09 Russell Wilson-12, QB9
Round 4 seems to be the value round for QBs this year. Couldn’t believe Cam almost dropped to me here (nice pickup by rene in the 4th). Decided on Wilson over RGIII (injury concern), Stafford (same bye as David Wilson) and Romo (preference). I was targeting Wayne here but krsone21 sniped him right before me…and it became a damn theme with him the whole draft. In hindsight, I think it worked out ok because my QB tier was wiped clean before my round 5 pick.
5.08 Greg Jennings-5, WR27
6.09 Cecil Shorts-9, WR35
7.08 Danario Alexander-8, WR41
4 rounds and no WRs yet so time to hammer away at this position. Risky with Ponder and Gabbert throwing to my top 2 but they’re going to have to get targets. Make the most of ‘em boys! DX is a mismatch 1 on 1 but seems like he struggles with double coverage so hopefully with Brown/Allen/Floyd/Gates, he won’t see that safety over the top. Overall, I’m ok with this group and have some hopes for it despite waiting 4 1/2 rounds.
8.09 Mark Ingram-7, RB37
9.08 Matt Flynn-7, QB29
2 picks I regret. I like Ingram this year. He seemed to come on a bit at the end of last year and with him and Graham, I’m hoping for a plethora of TDs. And with all the teams after me in need of RB3, I went with Ingram , bucked the stupid QB2 run (damn krsone who sniped Palmer), hoped others would follow. That backfired and I should have taken Locker with 8.09. I panicked and then followed up that mistake with drafting Flynn. Carolina Hustler, Go Pack and MOP all needed QB2 so I needed to pull the trigger. Not sure if they would have drafted him, as they all continued to pass on QB2 for a couple rounds more. It might work out but will Flynn even be starting the season, let alone week 12 when I need him? Could be a wasted pick in the 9th round and I should have went with my gut in WRs Hopkins or Sanders.
10.09 Aaron Dobson-10, WR53
11.08 San Francisco-9, DST2
12.09 Brandon LaFell-4, WR66
13.08 St. Louis-11, DST16
14.09 Delanie Walker-8, TE28
15.08 Michael Bush-8, RB61
16.09 Josh Brown-9, PK20
17.08 Donnie Avery-10, WR81
18.09 Adam Vinatieri-8, PK28
Time to fill out the rest of squad with depth and PK/DEF. Dobson might have been early but I didn’t care for anyone else so he was my swing for the fences pick. Followed him up with LaFell, who should be good for 8-10 points per week and really score for me those weeks with a TD. Avery’s the #2 in KC right now , caught 60 balls last year and should score every now and then.
Wanted Cameron as my TE2 but his ADP is rising so I sloughed this position off as long as I could. Was between Walker and Miller (Sea) but I may not have a QB in Week 12 so I didn’t want any other players on that bye week, so Walker it was. Bush is a good RB4 (RB61) and surprised he lasted this long. Didn’t have a great year last year due to injuries but doesn’t need a lot of carries to score for me due to vulturing Forte’s TDs…and Bush has proven to be able to carry the load for a while if Forte does go down.
Unusual for me but went early on defenses grabbing SF and StL. Didn’t think about at the time but wonder if I shouldn’t be drafting team from the same division? I felt I could wait on PK, as some teams like to only draft 1 PK and there don’t seem to be as many questions right now with the PK position…and it seems to work out. Still not sure if drafting Vinatieri was the better move then protecting my round 9 Flynn pick with Tyler Wilson. I’m regretting my decision a little but I think I would be regretting my decision either way. I’d like to know what you guys would have done…PK2 or Wilson?
Fiddles
Footballguy
Manning, Eli NYG QB - 9Smith, Alex KCC QB - 10Bernard, Giovani CIN RB - 12Franklin, Johnathan GBP RB - 4Ivory, Christopher NYJ RB - 10Martin, Doug TBB RB - 5Bailey, Stedman STL WR - 11Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR - 9Hunter, Justin TEN WR - 8Johnson, Andre HOU WR - 8Sanu, Mohamed CIN WR - 12Wheaton, Markus PIT WR - 5Cameron, Jordan CLE TE - 10Finley, Jermichael GBP TE - 4Forbath, Kai WAS PK - 5Hopkins, Dustin BUF PK - 12Eagles, Philadelphia PHI Def - 12Ravens, Baltimore BAL Def - 8
the rookie wr 4-6 strategy is new to me. i usually go heavier on wr 3-5 at the expense of rb 3-4 but I reversed it this draft
will have to see how grabbing franklin and ivory instead of an wr 3 pans out
I do think bailey is going to be the rookie value play in these ppr 18 rounders
the rookie wr 4-6 strategy is new to me. i usually go heavier on wr 3-5 at the expense of rb 3-4 but I reversed it this draft
will have to see how grabbing franklin and ivory instead of an wr 3 pans out
I do think bailey is going to be the rookie value play in these ppr 18 rounders
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GO PACK
PLAYER YTD PTS BYE
Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB - 4 (1.14)
It' Rodgers all alone here. He fel to me at 14 and I felt I had to grab him. I thought about Rivers at one point but wanted to get a decent TE and RB3 and by the time it got back to me al the decent QB 2's were gone. At one point late I considered Weeden but withRodgers early bye week I decided to just ride him figuring that if he gets hurt I won't last long anyway. Harrell sucks and may not even win the backup job so did not see any point wasting a spot there.
Ball, Montee DEN RB - 9 (6.3)
Brown, Donald IND RB - 8 (17.14)
Jackson, Fred BUF RB - 12 (8.3)
Mathews, Ryan SDC RB - 8 (3.14)
Thomas, Daniel MIA RB - 6 (14.3)
RB will be interesting as I am counting on Ball to get significant carries and Fred Jackson to also be a decent parts of the Bills offense. Would be nice if Mathews can stay healthy but history is against that. Thomas and Brown were late fliers that may get some backup or third down duties. Definitely not a strong group but hoping for average production.
Bess, Davone CLE WR - 10 (18.3)
Boldin, Anquan SFO WR - 9 (9.14)
Colston, Marques NOS WR - 7 (4.3)
Marshall, Brandon CHI WR - 8 (2.3)
Smith, Steve CAR WR - 4 (5.14)
Woods, Robert BUF WR - 12 (12.3)
I like Marshall & Colston to count most weeks. Steve Smith has the big play potential and hopefully Boldin will be more consistent to fill in down weeks from the others. I think Woods is one of the more NFL ready rookies and could help out in a pinch. Preferred more of a home run threat late than Bess but did not like my options so went for the guy than can get me 10 points on 5 catches for 50 yards. Overall pretty happy with this group although they are a bit old at 2 thru 4 so hopefully that does not catch up with them.
Bennett, Martellus CHI TE - 8 (7.14)
Gresham, Jermaine CIN TE - 12 (10.3)
Just missed Gates and settled for Bennett who should get quite a few looks in Chicago. Gresham is a consistent backup even with Eifert in town. Pretty average group here.
Gostkowski, Stephen NEP PK - 10 (13.14)
Hauschka, Steven SEA PK - 12 (16.3)
Hoping for solid weekly production here with kickers from high scoring offenses. Took Gostkowski earlier than I normally take a kicker but wanted to get ahead of the run.
Broncos, Denver DEN Def - 9 (11.14)
Browns, Cleveland CLE Def - 10 (15.14)
Wanted to get a top defense. Had my predraft for D in before any were selected and was fortunate to get one of my top 3. Expecting above average production here.
Overall I have a lot riding on Rodgers. If he stays healthy and I survive his bye week and Ball can win the starters carries I like this team. Not taking a second QB did allow me to get a top defense and kicker as well as take my third RB and 4th Wr a round early. Hopefully that pays off in improved overall quality.
PLAYER YTD PTS BYE
Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB - 4 (1.14)
It' Rodgers all alone here. He fel to me at 14 and I felt I had to grab him. I thought about Rivers at one point but wanted to get a decent TE and RB3 and by the time it got back to me al the decent QB 2's were gone. At one point late I considered Weeden but withRodgers early bye week I decided to just ride him figuring that if he gets hurt I won't last long anyway. Harrell sucks and may not even win the backup job so did not see any point wasting a spot there.
Ball, Montee DEN RB - 9 (6.3)
Brown, Donald IND RB - 8 (17.14)
Jackson, Fred BUF RB - 12 (8.3)
Mathews, Ryan SDC RB - 8 (3.14)
Thomas, Daniel MIA RB - 6 (14.3)
RB will be interesting as I am counting on Ball to get significant carries and Fred Jackson to also be a decent parts of the Bills offense. Would be nice if Mathews can stay healthy but history is against that. Thomas and Brown were late fliers that may get some backup or third down duties. Definitely not a strong group but hoping for average production.
Bess, Davone CLE WR - 10 (18.3)
Boldin, Anquan SFO WR - 9 (9.14)
Colston, Marques NOS WR - 7 (4.3)
Marshall, Brandon CHI WR - 8 (2.3)
Smith, Steve CAR WR - 4 (5.14)
Woods, Robert BUF WR - 12 (12.3)
I like Marshall & Colston to count most weeks. Steve Smith has the big play potential and hopefully Boldin will be more consistent to fill in down weeks from the others. I think Woods is one of the more NFL ready rookies and could help out in a pinch. Preferred more of a home run threat late than Bess but did not like my options so went for the guy than can get me 10 points on 5 catches for 50 yards. Overall pretty happy with this group although they are a bit old at 2 thru 4 so hopefully that does not catch up with them.
Bennett, Martellus CHI TE - 8 (7.14)
Gresham, Jermaine CIN TE - 12 (10.3)
Just missed Gates and settled for Bennett who should get quite a few looks in Chicago. Gresham is a consistent backup even with Eifert in town. Pretty average group here.
Gostkowski, Stephen NEP PK - 10 (13.14)
Hauschka, Steven SEA PK - 12 (16.3)
Hoping for solid weekly production here with kickers from high scoring offenses. Took Gostkowski earlier than I normally take a kicker but wanted to get ahead of the run.
Broncos, Denver DEN Def - 9 (11.14)
Browns, Cleveland CLE Def - 10 (15.14)
Wanted to get a top defense. Had my predraft for D in before any were selected and was fortunate to get one of my top 3. Expecting above average production here.
Overall I have a lot riding on Rodgers. If he stays healthy and I survive his bye week and Ball can win the starters carries I like this team. Not taking a second QB did allow me to get a top defense and kicker as well as take my third RB and 4th Wr a round early. Hopefully that pays off in improved overall quality.
Captain Hook
Footballguy
Captain's Mates with Bye weeks
QB - Matt Stafford (9) & Josh Freeman (5)
Stafford should approach 5000 yards again and Freeman started very well last year and has more weapons with a better surrounding cast this yer
RB - C.J. Spillier (12), M. Jones-Drew (9), Daryl Richardson (11), & Marcel Reese (7)
Went RB/RB to start with Spiller and MJD and liked Richardson in the 9th round. Reese very good in ppr formats
WR - Randall Cobb (4), Torrey Smith (8), Ryan Broyles (9), Stephen Hill (10), Andrew Hawkins (12), & Harry Douglas (6)
Cobb and Smith should carry the load and score most weeks while the others will all have some scores throughout - will get the best three of five or three of six scores each week
TE - Owen Daniels (8) & Heath Miller (5)
Daniels still a solid receiving option for Schaub and Miller will get his - yes I know when he is on the field ... I think we beat this to death in earlier comments so we will see
K - Janikowski (7) & Carpenter (6)
Two solid kickers on not great offenses which should give them chances for field goals
DST - Steelers (5) & Cardinals (9)
Steelers always score well and if nothing else call the Cardinals either a
pick or a vote for Patrick Peterson and
Honey Badger on kick returns
Overall a team that should score well enough to compete in this league
QB - Matt Stafford (9) & Josh Freeman (5)
Stafford should approach 5000 yards again and Freeman started very well last year and has more weapons with a better surrounding cast this yer
RB - C.J. Spillier (12), M. Jones-Drew (9), Daryl Richardson (11), & Marcel Reese (7)
Went RB/RB to start with Spiller and MJD and liked Richardson in the 9th round. Reese very good in ppr formats
WR - Randall Cobb (4), Torrey Smith (8), Ryan Broyles (9), Stephen Hill (10), Andrew Hawkins (12), & Harry Douglas (6)
Cobb and Smith should carry the load and score most weeks while the others will all have some scores throughout - will get the best three of five or three of six scores each week
TE - Owen Daniels (8) & Heath Miller (5)
Daniels still a solid receiving option for Schaub and Miller will get his - yes I know when he is on the field ... I think we beat this to death in earlier comments so we will see
K - Janikowski (7) & Carpenter (6)
Two solid kickers on not great offenses which should give them chances for field goals
DST - Steelers (5) & Cardinals (9)
Steelers always score well and if nothing else call the Cardinals either a
pick or a vote for Patrick Peterson andHoney Badger on kick returns
Overall a team that should score well enough to compete in this league
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Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Obviously I am biased, but I thought I put together a pretty good team. I saw the dropoffs at each respective area and drafted according to that plan.
I think a good recipe this year is a stud RB (if you can get one), then stud TE, then a strong QB in 16-teamer. WRs have to be hammered next to get 4 of your Top 40 if at all possible - certainly 4 in your Top 50.
Depth-wise, you have to get a QB2 early. Then comes WR4, then RB3. TE2 can typically wait (but not forever).
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Just comparing the two teams for fun:
QB - Rivers/Ryan vs. Flacco/Bradford. Advantage - Jeff
RB - Morris, Ballard, DeAngelo Williams and Gillislee vs. L Bell, B Brown, B Pierce, J Randle - Advantage Jeff (RB1, at least two starters for their teams)
WR - Welker, Stevie Johnson, Denarius Moore, ESanders, Santana Moss and TWilliams vs. Julio Jones, Victor Cruz, Dwayne Bowe, K Wright, J Kerley and B Gibson - advantage Broadway. I'd say Jeff has a "B" group, Broadway has an A- group with two top stars in Jones and Cruz.
TE - Witten / Celek vs. Gronk/Housler - I dare say advantage Jeff due to Gronk's health. Not a fan of Broadway's TE2 in Housler. Witten is a Top 3-5 TE, Gronk Top 2 if 100%. Celek is iffy this year, but not clear what Chip Kelly will do with him. I think a "push" is fair.
PK and Def - Two each. Good enough.
Close call for both, but while Jeff's RB's aren't flashy they are a pretty solid group I think. "B" grade I think, B- at worst with a clear RB1 in Morris.
HitNRun
Footballguy
Ponder, Christian MIN QB - 5
Vick, Michael PHI QB - 12
Weeden, Brandon CLE QB - 10
I did not expect the 8th round QB run. If Vick gets injured early and Ponder starts slow and is benched for Cassel, I may be eliminated fairly quick.
Brown, Andre NYG RB - 9
Murray, DeMarco DAL RB - 11
Pead, Isaiah STL RB - 11
Peterson, Adrian MIN RB (P) - 5
I am happy with my RB stable. I like Wilson to receive the majority of carries in NY, but if the Giants use the approach as with Bradshaw/Jacobs, I believe Brown will produce at least RB3 numbers. Murray's production of course will depend on his health but I am looking forward to a full, healthy season as the Cowboys starting RB....as a fan as well.
Amendola, Danny NEP WR - 10
Brown, Vincent SDC WR (P) - 8
Decker, Eric DEN WR - 9
Hilton, T.Y. IND WR - 8
Streater, Rod OAK WR - 7
I did not take my first WR until 4.16 and I am pleased with my corp. I expect Hilton to produce high WR2. Amendola and Decker could easily produce at a borderline WR1/WR2 rate. While no stars, I believe from top to bottom to be very solid.
Gonzalez, Tony ATL TE - 6
Miller, Zach SEA TE - 12
Grabbed Gonzo at 2.16. He has finished 2nd and 4th in the past 2 seasons. I am not concerned with his age being a factor this year. If he finishes with top 5-7 production, I will be happy.
Feely, Jay ARI PK - 9
Graham, Shayne CLE PK - 10
Chargers, San Diego SDC Def - 8
Lions, Detroit DET Def - 9
I don't know what grade to give my team, but if Gonzo maintains his high production and Vick remains relatively healthy I believe I will stick around this competition into the latter part of the season.
Vick, Michael PHI QB - 12
Weeden, Brandon CLE QB - 10
I did not expect the 8th round QB run. If Vick gets injured early and Ponder starts slow and is benched for Cassel, I may be eliminated fairly quick.
Brown, Andre NYG RB - 9
Murray, DeMarco DAL RB - 11
Pead, Isaiah STL RB - 11
Peterson, Adrian MIN RB (P) - 5
I am happy with my RB stable. I like Wilson to receive the majority of carries in NY, but if the Giants use the approach as with Bradshaw/Jacobs, I believe Brown will produce at least RB3 numbers. Murray's production of course will depend on his health but I am looking forward to a full, healthy season as the Cowboys starting RB....as a fan as well.
Amendola, Danny NEP WR - 10
Brown, Vincent SDC WR (P) - 8
Decker, Eric DEN WR - 9
Hilton, T.Y. IND WR - 8
Streater, Rod OAK WR - 7
I did not take my first WR until 4.16 and I am pleased with my corp. I expect Hilton to produce high WR2. Amendola and Decker could easily produce at a borderline WR1/WR2 rate. While no stars, I believe from top to bottom to be very solid.
Gonzalez, Tony ATL TE - 6
Miller, Zach SEA TE - 12
Grabbed Gonzo at 2.16. He has finished 2nd and 4th in the past 2 seasons. I am not concerned with his age being a factor this year. If he finishes with top 5-7 production, I will be happy.
Feely, Jay ARI PK - 9
Graham, Shayne CLE PK - 10
Chargers, San Diego SDC Def - 8
Lions, Detroit DET Def - 9
I don't know what grade to give my team, but if Gonzo maintains his high production and Vick remains relatively healthy I believe I will stick around this competition into the latter part of the season.
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Kaepernick, Colin SFO QB - 9
Tannehill, Ryan MIA QB - 6
Charles, Jamaal KCC RB - 10
Forte, Matt CHI RB - 8
Hillman, Ronnie DEN RB - 9
Tate, Ben HOU RB - 8
Garcon, Pierre WAS WR (Q) - 5
Hopkins, DeAndre HOU WR - 8
Jenkins, A.J. SFO WR - 9
Maclin, Jeremy PHI WR - 12
Nicks, Hakeem NYG WR (P) - 9
Randle, Rueben NYG WR - 9
Ertz, Zach PHI TE - 12
Gates, Antonio SDC TE - 8
Gano, Graham CAR PK - 4
Henery, Alex PHI PK - 12
Saints, New Orleans NOS Def - 7
Vikings, Minnesota MIN Def - 5
Loving this team which means it will probably get bounced first. Solid in every position.
Tannehill, Ryan MIA QB - 6
Charles, Jamaal KCC RB - 10
Forte, Matt CHI RB - 8
Hillman, Ronnie DEN RB - 9
Tate, Ben HOU RB - 8
Garcon, Pierre WAS WR (Q) - 5
Hopkins, DeAndre HOU WR - 8
Jenkins, A.J. SFO WR - 9
Maclin, Jeremy PHI WR - 12
Nicks, Hakeem NYG WR (P) - 9
Randle, Rueben NYG WR - 9
Ertz, Zach PHI TE - 12
Gates, Antonio SDC TE - 8
Gano, Graham CAR PK - 4
Henery, Alex PHI PK - 12
Saints, New Orleans NOS Def - 7
Vikings, Minnesota MIN Def - 5
Loving this team which means it will probably get bounced first. Solid in every position.
