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menobrown

QB: Chad Henne , Alex Smith

RB: Chris Johnson , Felix Jones , Ben Tate , Fred Jackson

WR: Sidney Rice , Jeremy Maclin , Johnny Knox , Malcolm Floyd , Nate Washington , Donte Stallworth

TE: Jermichael Finley , Zach Miller

PK: Robbie Gould , Matt Prater

DEF: Green Bay Packers , Chicago Bears

QB's: will be average, won't carry you but won't kill you....you watited and got about what you should expect...wildcat hurts Henne as that steals a few TD's....both have some weapons so some upside here

RB's: like these guys, but 3 question marks after CJ...not really gonna talk about Felix's injury history as I assume everybody stays healthy all year, but he still has Barber and Choice in town, but he can be explosive any time he touches the ball.....if Tate becomes the workhorse he could be gold, but he could also just become part of a nasty RBBC in his first year....and Jackson now has Spiller added to that pesky Lynch who is still hanging around.....if the cards fall right this could be a great group, but could go the other way as well

WR's: not a fan of this group.....I'm ok with Rice but that changes if 4 does not come back...expecting pretty big things from Maclin as your WR2.....who knows where Knox fits in this year....Floyd could be pushed by my boy Naanee this year.....Nate has VY throwin him he ball which I am not a fan of and who knows about Stallworth coming back as maybe a WR3 on a run first team....

TE's: pretty solid twosome....

PK's and DST's: solid all around here, PK's have job security and two top Defenses....

Overall:this team could go either way, I think you have a ton of guys with questions marks at QB/RB/WR....you are kind of banking on some guys to produce, and that's not neccessarily a bad thing, as it could pay off, not a ton of pop on this team after CJ/Finley/Felix....I can't think of specific examples off hand, but I think there were a few times you could have swayed from your postion double upping on the turn and maybe found a player or two at another position that could have helped....

 
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Yellow Line is Unofficial

QB: Matt Stafford , Jake Delhomme

RB: Frank Gore , Beanie Wells , Ahmad Bradshaw , Darren McFadden , Ryan Torain

WR: Greg Jennings , Dez Bryant , Jabar Gaffney , Chaz Schillens , Earl Bennett , Sammie Stroughter

TE: Chris Cooley , Brandon Pettigrew

PK: Neil Rackers

DEF: Baltimore Ravens , Jacksonville Jaguars

QB: not a big fan, you may just have one for all we know....if I remember correctly you could have had Cutler instead of Stafford and that is fine if you have him ranked higher, but with the way it worked out if I needed one guy to carry me cause Delhomme was going to be my #2, I would have wanted that one guy to be Cutler instead of Stafford....I think Cutler has a chance to blow up this year and I think you and a few others may regret passing on him.....quite honestly I would have gone QB/QB at the 4-5 turn myself with Kolb/Cutler, but as I mentioned in my earlier posts they shared the same bye week along with the other top guys left "at that time" (Ryan, Flacco)....Cutler falling to where he did was crazy....anyway, I think you are behind the 8 ball here....

RB's: I like this group, you have some pop here....no real bye week issues, and you must follow the Broncos a little with the Torain pick.....Shanahan absolutely loved that guy when they were both in Denver...

WR's: not sure where to start here.....Jennings should be solid, after that a ton of question marks

TE's: I like Cooley this year, Pettigrew situation is a little shaky

PK's and DST's: one PK, I can't complain...and a top DST and one that should get better

Overall: RB's and Jennings will have to carry this team as there is some potential for a bunch of doughnuts from the rest

 
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Crippler

QB: Phillip Rivers , Ben Roethlisberger

RB: LeSean McCoy , Matt Forte , Thomas Jones , Kevin Smith

WR: Andre Johnson , Anquan Boldin , Steve Breaston , Donnie Avery , James Jones , Jarrett Dillard

TE: Dustin Keller , Jermaie Gresham

PK: Ryan Succop , Nick Folks

DEF: Pittsburgh Steelers , Washington Redskins

QB's: Rivers has to carry you for first 5 weeks at least so hopefully he doesn't throw up a clunker and you get booted before reaping the rewards of getting Ben....if you make it past that you have a solid tandem

RB's: with 1 and 2 sharing a bye that could be tough in week 8...was a little surprised by the Smith pick, thought a safer option might have complimented this group a little better....still some undrafted RB's out there that might have helped this group...Smith will have to come back real strong to jump back ahead of Best and Morris and sounds like some are even high on Arron Brown.....so there may not be a rush to get Smith back from his injury....would they maybe even think about cutting him?...I don't know....anyway McCoy, Forte, and TJ should get you a decent amount of points each week, not going to carry this team, but serviceable considering you didn't take one until round 4...

WR's: I like this group a lot, you have some consistency and some pop/firepower

TE's: solid...Keller will be steady and you got to like the situation Gresham is in....

PK' and DST's: solid and I really like your DST combo

Overall: I like this team a bunch and I think you were one RB pick away from having a tremendous team....as a competitor I hope Rivers throws up a clunker and the Big Ben gamble bites you in the ### within the first 5 weeks, cause after that you could be hard to beat....don't see it happening cause you almost couldn't ask for a better early schedule than what Rivers has for the first 6 weeks...nice job

 
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Teamramrod

QB: Tom Brady , Trent Edwards

RB: Ray Rice , Cadillac Williams , Aaron Brown

WR: Michael Crabtree , Dwayne Bowe , Nate Burleson , Josh Morgan , Kevin Ogletree

TE: Visanthe Shiancoe , Heath Miller

PK: Garrett Hartley , Jason Hansen

DEF: San Francisco 49ers , New Orleans Saints

QB's: Like Brady think he bounces back strong this year and if Edwards keeps the job he could be serviceable

RB's: Rice should be gold and Caddy is okay, not sure what Brown role will be...only having 3 guys sucks, at some point the missing two picks will cost this team

WR's: actually not a bad group/start but week 4 is an issue right off the bat with Bowe and Ogletree on bye week and you will have to play Morgan/Crabtree/Burleson....extra pick would have helped

TE's: very strong group here, like this combo

PK's and DST's: like both of these goups, especially your DST's

Overall: your core lineup really isn't that bad, in fact had you had two more picks, this team would be pretty solid if you were able to add one more RB and WR.....you could have maybe hung on for awhile with the firepower Brady and Rice bring and a pretty solid group behind them...week 4 could be your swan song unless you get some crazy stuff from a DST or something.... Brady is at MIA, Rice is at Pitt, Caddy/Bowe/Ogletree/Shaincoe are on a bye....kinda sucks about the 2 picks...I would have liked to seen all teams at full strength....the one thing this does help is any other teams that may have struggled in week 4, cause they should have a hard time scoring less than you that week.....

 
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Ruffyrodys05

QB: Joe Flacco , Matt Moore

RB: Maurice Jones Drew , Ryan Matthews , Steve Slaton , Jerious Norwood

WR: Marques Colston , Percy Harvin , Derrick Mason , Kevin Walter , Jason Avant

TE: John Carlson , Bo Scaife , Tony Moeaki

PK: Lawrence Tynes , Joe Nedney

DEF: Tennessee Titans , Carolina Panthers

QB's: I like this combo especially if Moore can continue to play at a high level.....

RB's: solid 1-2, but some question marks with your depth.....kind of crowded down in the HOU backfield and Slaton could be the odd man out....if I remember correctly you were pretty excited about your Norwood pick...he may bust a big play here or there, but just don't see him helping you a bunch.....Turner will get the rock and any other significant carries might go to Snelling....but Norwood could catch a few I guess.....if Matthews is the real deal, his situation makes this group pretty solid...

WR's: not a bad group, but not my favorite....I'm not huge on Viking WR's this year as I think there will be a step back in the passing game with or without 4....I like Colston and Mason should still catch a few although you'd have to think his role decreases fairly substantially......Walter could be a solid pick if he keeps his role, but that's not a given although they seem to like him....and Avant is a nice pick late in this format....week 8 gives you Colston/Harvin/Walter with Colston vs Pitt and Harvin at NE and Walter at Indy.....tough matchups that week but Moore is at STL

TE's: pretty solid, Like Carlson where you got him....he could be top 5....

PK's and DST's: should be average to solid....

Overall: pretty solid group, I would like it more if I felt better about Harvin, but that is just personal preference....you should be pretty consistent each week with your core at QB/RB....if you get past week 8 you could be tough...nice job

 
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Jeff Pasquino

QB: Matt Ryan , David Garrard

RB: Ryan Grant , Clinton Portis , Willis McGahee , Jonathan Dwyer

WR: Larry Fitzgerald , DeSean Jackson , Santana Moss , Santonio Holmes , Brian Hartline , Anthony Gonzalez

TE: Owen Daniels , Anthony Fasano

PK: Jay Feely , David Buehler

DEF: San Diego Chargers , Buffalo Bills

QB's: not a ton of pop here but some steady QB play....won't carry this team but will keep you in the game....two pretty run heavy offenses with workhorse backs but bewteen the two should find a decent score...

RB's: McGahhe may end up being your best pick at this position as he has weeks where he can put up starter type numbers...Grant should be solid and we'll see about Portis back with Shanahan...I am interested to see how things shake down at RB in WAS....obviously you have the 3 headed monster of Portis/LJ/Parker, but now Shanny has also brought in one of his favorites in Torain....thought that "small" move was very interesting....I think one or possibly two of these guys could get cut but I don't think Portis will be one....and the fact that they were really thinking about Westbrook just has me very curious as to how it shakes out.....anyway, I like your group here and I think Dwyer was a nice little pick at the end....his free fall in the NFL draft may have given him some motivation to go into camp and make some noise....

WR's: lets's start with Anthony Gonzalez....just kidding....solid group here that becomes even better after Holmes comes back....one of the top WR cores in the league....personally I hate Moss as he has always disappointed, but in this format he could be solid....

TE's: obviously most people that drafted Daniels are expecting him to get right back to where he was before the injury, if he does, money...

PK's and DST's: pretty solid ...if Buehler wins the job then it is real nice..

Overall: this is kind of what I call a flatline team.....fairly straight across the board....no real peaks or valleys, highs or lows....nothing too exciting, but nothing that leaves you scratching your head....very solid picks and if there is a bump in the flatline it is your WR group which as mentioned is very good....I see this team hangin around for awhile.....nice job

 
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HellToupee

QB: Matt Schaub , Jay Cutler

RB: Rashard Mendenhall , Montario Hardesty , Leon Washington , Larry Johnson

WR: Hakeem Nicks , Kenny Britt , Chris Chambers , Wes Welker , Austin Collie , Josh Cribs

TE: Vernon Davis , Aaron Hernandez

PK: David Akers , Graham Gano

DEF: Arizona Cardinals , Kansas City Chiefs

QB's: nothing to see here, top QB tandem in the league by far, Cutler falling to you was just crazy and you are right, way too much value to pass up even with Schaub on board....IMO some people that passed on him in this draft will be sorry

RB's: I don't like this group...it's starts because I am just not as high on Mendy as the masses...I think the Ben suspension will have a negative impact on his early production instead of a positive one....the rest of the depth here is very questionable and a bunch of things would have to to fall right to get a solid second score here each week....what could really help is if LJ gets significant production in WAS as I think Shanny has always been a fan of his game...

WR's:I like Nicks, don't like any WR that depends on VY to get them the ball....Chambers can post a number on occasion...not a fan of drafting Welker in this format....Collie could be solid on occasion as I think Gozo won't eat into his numbers as much as others think, and Cribbs can get some yardage, but his returns mean nothing in this league...might be tough to get 3 decent scores every week from this group, but your bye weeks are spred out ok, so it could be worse....

TE's: I like these two and Davis should help carry your WR's on some slow weeks....

PK's and DST's: solid, not much one way or the other

Overall:QB/Nicks/Davis will have to keep you in it most weeks as I think you will be disappointed in the rest of your production especially at RB.....

 
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RC94

QB: Donovan McNabb , Matt Hasselback , Charlie Whitehurst

RB: Steven Jackson , Knowshon Moreno , Brandon Jacobs , Justin Forsett

WR: Roddy White , Braylon Edwards , Mike Thomas , Davone Bess , Louis Murphy , Malcolm Kelly

TE: Zach Miller , Todd Heap

PK: John Kasay

DEF: Denver Broncos , Oakland Raiders

QB:it probably sucked to feel the need to get Charlie....but this group should be ok, some might be writing Hasselback off a little too soon

RB: I really, really like this group....1 and 2 share same bye week so that may hurt cause it is also McNabb's bye week...but I like your 4 selections here....I think Jabobs bounces back..

WR's: above average group bordering on pretty darn good....your 1-2 are on run heavy teams and obviously Edwards has competition for targets, but between the guys you have, you should keep your head above water here each week...

TE's:I am one of those guys that has a hard time getting excited about any Raider....I haven't really taken a look at him much and I probably need to, but just not sure about the love being given to Zach...but Campbell can only be an improvement so you should be ok here too....Heap can still play...

PK's and DST's:i'm in the one PK club with you so no issues from me.....and you got two D's....no problem

Overall: this isn't one of those teams that jumps out at you and screams "look at me" but I like what you have done....a solid QB, 3.5 solid RB's, and WR/TE's that together could get it done each week.....this may be a sneaky team to watch as I don't see you having any issues until week 9.....this team could be middle of the pack each week, which is just fine...you'll probably hang around on the bubble a few weeks here and there, but somehow make it through....one of those teams where you ask, how the heck is he still here....?....nice job

 
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beachbum

QB: Eli Manning , Jason Campbell

RB: Pierre Thomas , Marion Barber , Tashard Choice , Leonard Weaver , Lynell Hamilton , Maurice Maurice

WR: Miles Austin , Brandon Marshall , Pierre Garcon , Julian Edelman

TE: Kevin Boss , Fred Davis

PK: Ryan Lindell , Josh Scobee

DEF: Cincinnati Bengals , Miami Dolphins

QB's: solid tandem here and if I remember it didn't cost you a ton....good start here each week

RB's: quanity over quality....the price you pay for having a solid WR core...10 guys between your RB/WR picks and I think you may be the only one with a 6/4 ratio...I may be more ok with this group than others cause I'm not sold on Felix being a bell cow...I think Barber is still a major factor there.....with that said, I'm not too excited here about this group....you may be chasing a few points at this position

WR: you will only have 2 WR's in week 5 and that could be dangerous as you go in with an automatic goose egg...but this group is pretty solid on it's own...obviously another WR would help but I like all 4 of these guys.....I want to give you some really good props here, but the limited number and your bye week issue almost negate the solid work here...

TE's: with your WR issue it might have been nice to have some potential fire power here to help, but this is a below average group....

PK's and DST's:solid and DST's are good.....I think MIA D will be pretty good this year...

Overall: one of those love/hate things going on here but bottom line this team is a little too WR heavy and then light at the same time, and the group of RB's and TE's might have a hard time complimenting them.....if things fall perfect, it might work out....

 
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:goodposting: Jeff Pasquino QB: Matt Ryan , David Garrard RB: Ryan Grant , Clinton Portis , Willis McGahee , Jonathan Dwyer WR: Larry Fitzgerald , DeSean Jackson , Santana Moss , Santonio Holmes , Brian Hartline , Anthony Gonzalez TE: Owen Daniels , Anthony Fasano PK: Jay Feely , David Buehler DEF: San Diego Chargers , Buffalo Bills QB's: not a ton of pop here but some steady QB play....won't carry this team but will keep you in the game....two pretty run heavy offenses with workhorse backs but bewteen the two should find a decent score...RB's: McGahhe may end up being your best pick at this position as he has weeks where he can put up starter type numbers...Grant should be solid and we'll see about Portis back with Shanahan...I am interested to see how things shake down at RB in WAS....obviously you have the 3 headed monster of Portis/LJ/Parker, but now Shanny has also brought in one of his favorites in Torain....thought that "small" move was very interesting....I think one or possibly two of these guys could get cut but I don't think Portis will be one....and the fact that they were really thinking about Westbrook just has me very curious as to how it shakes out.....anyway, I like your group here and I think Dwyer was a nice little pick at the end....his free fall in the NFL draft may have given him some motivation to go into camp and make some noise....WR's: lets's start with Anthony Gonzalez....just kidding....solid group here that becomes even better after Holmes comes back....one of the top WR cores in the league....personally I hate Moss as he has always disappointed, but in this format he could be solid....TE's: obviously most people that drafted Daniels are expecting him to get right back to where he was before the injury, if he does, money...PK's and DST's: pretty solid ...if Buehler wins the job then it is real nice..Overall: this is kind of what I call a flatline team.....fairly straight across the board....no real peaks or valleys, highs or lows....nothing too exciting, but nothing that leaves you scratching your head....very solid picks and if there is a bump in the flatline it is your WR group which as mentioned is very good....I see this team hangin around for awhile.....nice job
I'd say this whether it was a favorable review or not - :goodposting: for taking the time here.I appreciate the effort. Well done. :goodposting:
 
I agree with Jeff. This is a hell of an effort.

I do alot of these types of articles but for my home league where I am commish. I know they take a ton of time to do but I enjoy doing them also. Just that I do one every couple of days there so no time for this one and done and why the huge appreciation

 
below was written thinking Maroney was on this team as in the first post in this thread he was on this team and tex's...I think he belongs to tex......so that really changes what is written below as I put a lot of weight into Maroney being on this team.....I don't like it nearly as much without Maroney....

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The Future Champs Need 1 Pick

QB: Mark Sanchez , Vince Young , Sam Bradford

RB: Jamaal Charles , Joseph Addai , Laurence Maroney , Darren Sproles , Derrick Ward

WR: Reggie Wayne , Donald Driver , Eddie Royal , Jacoby Jones , Matt Jones

TE: Jason Witten

PK: Ryan Longwell , Sebastian Janikowski

DEF: New York Giants , Cleveland Browns

QB's: this is a tough start for me cause I can't stand VY as a fantasy QB....I know he helped turn that team around a little last year as far as record goes, but in fantasy we really don't care about that....he may be a good fit for that team but not usually a fantasy team....CJ helped him help them....anyway that does not really matter, I was just taking anopportunity to bash him....between these three guys, you should get a decent score....I know Sanchez has more weapons etc, but I don't see him putting up a ton more passing stats....this team will still run first and play defense, probably meaning some low scoring games, ground and pound, etc...

RB's: not much to say here other than I really like this group, I think it may be one of the better groups in the league top to bottom.....sure Charles may have some questions heading in with TJ in town, but the guys you have behind him give this group tremendous depth and you wouldn't be surprised to see any of them put up several startable type weeks....awesome

WR's:solid not spectacular...about what you would expect with the RB's you were able to get....couple guys in passing offenses and some decent guys behind them....not sure what was availble at WR when the Sproles and Ward picks were made, but another WR instead of one of them may have made sense, since you almost have an abundance of quality....could have maybe added a WR and then used the pick that ended up not being made on a 5th RB, however it looks like that pick would have been a TE...

TE's: if your only gonna have one......

PK's and DST's: very solid here....except the DST's share the same bye week...but I actually rank Clev pretty high in this format because of the scoring system and the fact that a guy like Cribbs can make a difference here or there....

Overall: I want to like this team more than I do but it just seems like something is missing besides the pick you were not able to make...not sure what it is....week 7 will be an issue with Sanchez, Addai, Wayne and Jacoby on bye, so you are down to 3 WR's that week...if you make it past week 4 (Witten's bye) you might be able to hang for awhile...

 
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tex

QB: Tony Romo , Kyle Orton

RB: Cedric Benson , Reggie Bush , Laurence Maroney , Mike Bell

WR: Hines Ward , Lee Evans , Jericho Cotchery , Devin Thomnas , Demaryous Thomas , Bernard Berrian

TE: Dallas Clark , Ben Watson

PK: Adam Vinateri , Josh Brown

DEF: Atlanta Falcons , Seattle Seahawks

QB's: Romo will be a stud....we know there are questions about Orton this year with the other guys in town...I live about an hour north of Denver and listen to local sports talk regularly...he is the starter right now, but his leash will be sooooooo short it is not even funny....Orton is saying all the right things right now, but I am not sure he will be able to handle the pressure once the season starts and by pressure I mean thinking he has to make every play cause his first slip up could be his last and I am not sure he has the skills to overcome several mistakes....the season finale last year left a real bad vibe around Orton (two pick 6's in a home loss to KC).....anyway Romo is a stud, but Orton may not be a good backup, not sure what was available, but I would have maybe tried to get a guy with more job security even if the upside wasn't as good as Orton's....

RB's: just realized Maroney was listed on your roster and future champs......think he is yours so I will have to revisit future champs......anyway, I like this group, I think between these four you should get two serviceable scores....I really like the Bell pick as it could pay off huge.......

WR's: you read through that list and nothing jumps out at you, but as a group I think it will be pretty solid....good job collecting mid level talent across the board and Berrian was in my top 5 SOD's...crazy value there for depth, although I think he may produce about where you got him, it just seemed like a real steal...

TE's: I really like this combo and I think Watson will outperform his ADP this year

PK's and DST: we'll see about Vinny and your DST's should be ok....

Overall:I like this team and don't see it ever really see it finishing last on any given week....part of that is assuming Orton plays all year.....if he doesn't, and Romo lays an egg somewhere it could be trouble....I would really like this team if you had gone somewhere else with QB2....nice job

 
:) Ruffyrodys05 QB: Joe Flacco , Matt Moore RB: Maurice Jones Drew , Ryan Matthews , Steve Slaton , Jerious Norwood WR: Marques Colston , Percy Harvin , Derrick Mason , Kevin Walter , Jason Avant TE: John Carlson , Bo Scaife , Tony Moeaki PK: Lawrence Tynes , Joe Nedney DEF: Tennessee Titans , Carolina Panthers QB's: I like this combo especially if Moore can continue to play at a high level.....RB's: solid 1-2, but some question marks with your depth.....kind of crowded down in the HOU backfield and Slaton could be the odd man out....if I remember correctly you were pretty excited about your Norwood pick...he may bust a big play here or there, but just don't see him helping you a bunch.....Turner will get the rock and any other significant carries might go to Snelling....but Norwood could catch a few I guess.....if Matthews is the real deal, his situation makes this group pretty solid...WR's: not a bad group, but not my favorite....I'm not huge on Viking WR's this year as I think there will be a step back in the passing game with or without 4....I like Colston and Mason should still catch a few although you'd have to think his role decreases fairly substantially......Walter could be a solid pick if he keeps his role, but that's not a given although they seem to like him....and Avant is a nice pick late in this format....week 8 gives you Colston/Harvin/Walter with Colston vs Pitt and Harvin at NE and Walter at Indy.....tough matchups that week but Moore is at STLTE's: pretty solid, Like Carlson where you got him....he could be top 5....PK's and DST's: should be average to solid....Overall: pretty solid group, I would like it more if I felt better about Harvin, but that is just personal preference....you should be pretty consistent each week with your core at QB/RB....if you get past week 8 you could be tough...nice job
I will also echo JP's appreciation here...... :unsure: Having tried to comment on all 16 teams in past years, I know it takes some time and effort. So, thanks Ref!Quick question, you've mentioned being a newbie, but I thought I recalled you participated in at least one of these last year? (Twilight's tracking website is no longer available and I could not check.) Maybe I recall you participating in a WSL or PDSL earlier this year?And, if you are a newbie this year, you are catching on quick.Best of luck to you this year!! That goes for everybody in all the leagues.
 
:shock: Ruffyrodys05 QB: Joe Flacco , Matt Moore RB: Maurice Jones Drew , Ryan Matthews , Steve Slaton , Jerious Norwood WR: Marques Colston , Percy Harvin , Derrick Mason , Kevin Walter , Jason Avant TE: John Carlson , Bo Scaife , Tony Moeaki PK: Lawrence Tynes , Joe Nedney DEF: Tennessee Titans , Carolina Panthers QB's: I like this combo especially if Moore can continue to play at a high level.....RB's: solid 1-2, but some question marks with your depth.....kind of crowded down in the HOU backfield and Slaton could be the odd man out....if I remember correctly you were pretty excited about your Norwood pick...he may bust a big play here or there, but just don't see him helping you a bunch.....Turner will get the rock and any other significant carries might go to Snelling....but Norwood could catch a few I guess.....if Matthews is the real deal, his situation makes this group pretty solid...WR's: not a bad group, but not my favorite....I'm not huge on Viking WR's this year as I think there will be a step back in the passing game with or without 4....I like Colston and Mason should still catch a few although you'd have to think his role decreases fairly substantially......Walter could be a solid pick if he keeps his role, but that's not a given although they seem to like him....and Avant is a nice pick late in this format....week 8 gives you Colston/Harvin/Walter with Colston vs Pitt and Harvin at NE and Walter at Indy.....tough matchups that week but Moore is at STLTE's: pretty solid, Like Carlson where you got him....he could be top 5....PK's and DST's: should be average to solid....Overall: pretty solid group, I would like it more if I felt better about Harvin, but that is just personal preference....you should be pretty consistent each week with your core at QB/RB....if you get past week 8 you could be tough...nice job
I will also echo JP's appreciation here...... :thanks: Having tried to comment on all 16 teams in past years, I know it takes some time and effort. So, thanks Ref!Quick question, you've mentioned being a newbie, but I thought I recalled you participated in at least one of these last year? (Twilight's tracking website is no longer available and I could not check.) Maybe I recall you participating in a WSL or PDSL earlier this year?And, if you are a newbie this year, you are catching on quick.Best of luck to you this year!! That goes for everybody in all the leagues.
pretty sure this was my first year in these, not sure, they run together after awhile, but i did all of them this year I think....I did some of the Anarchy stuff in the past....have been on this site for many years just never really knew what it was you guys did over here....didn't pay much attention to the mock draft forum.... :wall:
 
By Position:

5.06 - Joe Flacco, QB11, Bal (8)

8.11 - Matt Moore, QB29, Car (6)

Solid combo....not elite, but solid. Bye week covered.....no Clausen does not start by week 8, so I think I am fine here. Others may disagree, and that's fine, but I feel very good about this tandem.

Grade: B+

1.06 - Maurice Jones-Drew, RB5, Jac (9)

3.06 - Ryan Mathews, RB11, SD (10)

10.11 - Steve Slaton, RB46, Hou (7)

14.11 - Jerious Norwood, RB57, Atl (8)

Best 1-2 punch in the league as far as I'm concerned. Slaton and Norwood should be adequate for bye week fill-ins, if all works out according to plan.

Grade: A-

2.11 - Marques Colston, WR10, NO (10)

4.11 - Percy Harvin, WR22, Min (4)

6.11 - Derrick Mason, WR35, Bal (8)

9.06 - Kevin Walter, WR48, Hou (7)

12.11 - Jason Avant, WR73, Phi (8)

Only 5 WR's but this group will be very solid on a week-to-week basis. I cannot say it is the best WR corp in the league, but it is damn close given the variations of WR combo's out there.

Grade: A-

7.06 - John Carlson, TE14, Sea (5)

11.06 - Bo Scaife, TE19, Ten (9)

18.11 - Tony Moeaki, TE32, KC (4)

I like this group a lot. Many may not.

Grade: B

15.06 - Lawrence Tynes, K12, NYG (8)

17.06 - Joe Nedney, K23, SF (9)

2 solid K's.....enough said.

Grade: B-

13.06 - Titans, D15, Ten (9)

16.11 - Panthers, D28, Car (6)

2 solid D's.....enough said.

Grade: B+

Overall I really do think this team has a good shot to finish top 4 in this league. As with any year, unknown issues could arise to derail it, but on paper I really like this team to survive until the near end.

Overall Grade: A-

Please, feel free to comment.....I appreciate all opinions no matter what.
Ummm...this ain't public school.QB: At best a middling QB1 and QB2. C-

RB: Pretty much agree, might bump you down a peg because Matthews was a reach. B+

WR: An a average WR1, 2 x WR3, only five deep, and Walter/Mason with limited ceilings. D

TE: Below average talent but 3 bumps things up to average. C

K: Agree with you.

D: Sorry dude but I doubt many if any teams would trade D's with you. D

Overall grade - C

 
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bostonfred

QB: Peyton Manning

RB: Ronnie Brown , Ricky Williams , Tim Hightower , Brian Westbrook , Jason Snelling

WR: Steve Smith , Mike Sims Walker , Robert Meachem , Devery Henderson , Lance Moore , Laurent Robinson

TE: Antonio Gates , Greg Olson

PK: Stephen Gostowski , Shayne Graham

DEF: New York Jets , St Louis Rams

kind of looks like bostonfred marches to the beat of a different drum, which is cool.......one QB, two RB's from the same team, and 3 WR's from the same team....but also potentially the top scoring QB/TE/PK/DST....

QB: going solo at high scoring position is risky, odds are he will have a clunker somewhere along the line....but going solo here also means that you should be loaded at other positions to help make up for it.....let's take a look

RB's: with not taking a RB until round 5, I guess this could have been worse....I think locking up the MIA running game is a decent move and it didn't cost you a ton....those two will probably be your 1-2 most of the year as the rest have question marks....Hightower could steal a couple TD's and grab a few passes and any significant carries that don't go to Turner should fall to Snelling.....Westy could be a bonus baby.....but this group is below average

WR's: ok so when you go TE/QB with the first two picks, you know you are basically passing up all the WR1 and RB1...I think you tried to play make up here at the WR position with your 3/4 picks when the value for you might have been at RB with these picks.....glancing briefly at who was on the board I think one of these two picks if not both could have netted you a RB that might have helped out....and then you could have focused on WR from then on out...just IMO.....bye weeks are not an issue tho so this strategy could work as you basically hope to get WR3 numbers out of the Saints 2/3/4...

TE's: easily the best tandem in the league

PK's and DST's: very solid here

Overall: wow, almost like he had a plan going in and stuck to it no matter what.....I really want to slam this team, but am struggling to do so...I don't think it has the firepower to survive a Manning clunker or bye week....MIA bye in week 5 will be tough as well.....I guess my final comment is that I am not neccessarily opposed to the TE/QB start but I think it needs to be followed up a little stronger and I think this team could have been stronger with different 3/4 picks....Smith (north) and MSW could have been different and this team might be stronger....and I think you still could have gotten at least Ricky, if not Ronnie as well.....I don't know...that different drum beat has got me all confused now...

 
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Nugget

QB: Drew Brees , Carson Palmer

RB: Michael Turner , Shonn Greene , Jerome Harrison , Kevin Faulk

WR: TJ Houshmandzadeh , Antonio Bryant , Arrelious Benn , Roy Williams , Early Doucet , Antwaan Randle El

TE: Tony Gonzalez , Shawn Nelson

PK: Rob Bironas , Mason Crosby

DEF: Minnesota Vikings , Detroit Lions

QB's: probably strongest or second strongest tandem in league (think somebody has Schaub/Cutler, flip a coin) nothing to see here except a ton ofpoints.....

RB's: solid 1-2 and a very strong 3 if he keeps his spot and keeps getting carries...I took Harrison in a couple other of these...in one I think he was my RB1, not good...I have since cooled on my excitement for him but added to this mix and where you got him he could be great value if he stays the man.....Faulk is not gotta turn any heads but can contribute in this format...with only 4 guys here, still pretty strong...Turner and Harrison share same bye so 8 could be tough...

WR's: I will be watching how Bryant fits in and I think Benn might be the man in TB.....this group doesn't knock your socks off but between the six you could get some low consistent scores.....not a ton of pop here but decent....this group probably suffered a little from your strength at QB and RB...

TE's: could be the breakout year for Nelson....dude is a beast....if they would just use him.....Gonzo is steady and probably good for another year or so....I think he might be a little overrated heading into this year and I have avoided him anticipating a decline....I think he has one of the best chances to not live up to his draft spot in these leagues where TE's are valued differently..

PK's and DST's: solid group

Overall: I see this team hanging around in the middle of the pack all year with some weeks being towards the top with Brees blowup games....but also a few weeks on the bubble with some questions at WR.....

 
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Jason Wood

QB: Aaron Rodgers , Josh Freeman

RB: DeAngelo Williams , Chester Taylor , LenDale White , Michael Bush

WR: Chad Ochocinco , Mike Wallace , Golden Tate , Dexter McCluster , Tory Holt , Brian Robiskie

TE: Kellen Winsow , Daniel Fells

PK: Nate Kaeding , Dan Carpenter

DEF: Philadelphia Eagles , New Englans Patriots

QB's: I like this combo, Rodgers could lead the league in scoring and I have a feeling TB throws the ball a ton this year...

RB's: another solid group, Dwilly will get his, and Chester Taylor is just a really good football player and I think he will push Forte for time....love the LenDale pick...I was sitting on him, he was on the radar and I think I would have pulled the trigger on him later in the 8th if he would have fallen...personally I think his stock will continue to rise and he will end up being great value where you got him....seems to have rededicated himself and he may not want to let Carrol down for taking a chance on him....Bush could easily be the #1 in OAK....

WR's: I took Wallace in a league pre Ben suspension....I hope it doesn't kill his value for the first 5 weeks....this group needs his breakout to become a reality instead of just something we all think we see....taking a little bit of a chance on Tate, but I think McCluster adds some pop to this group and could post some scores for you....always nice to have a piece of the NE passing game, but will Holt be a factor or another Joey Galloway...Robiskie is dead to me for some reason..

TE's: Winslow could catch a ton of passes this year....Fells, meh, who knows

PK's and DST's: very solid in all four spots maybe one of the best groupings

Overall:to me this team comes down to the group of WR's as I think there will be production every where else....they will make or break this team....if LenDale and Bush continue to be non factors, that will hurt as well.....if this team doesn't have a hiccup in week 3 when GB goes to CHI and TB plays PIT it could hang on for awhile, but the WR group might cost you in the end...

 
By Position:

5.06 - Joe Flacco, QB11, Bal (8)

8.11 - Matt Moore, QB29, Car (6)

Solid combo....not elite, but solid. Bye week covered.....no Clausen does not start by week 8, so I think I am fine here. Others may disagree, and that's fine, but I feel very good about this tandem.

Grade: B+

1.06 - Maurice Jones-Drew, RB5, Jac (9)

3.06 - Ryan Mathews, RB11, SD (10)

10.11 - Steve Slaton, RB46, Hou (7)

14.11 - Jerious Norwood, RB57, Atl (8)

Best 1-2 punch in the league as far as I'm concerned. Slaton and Norwood should be adequate for bye week fill-ins, if all works out according to plan.

Grade: A-

2.11 - Marques Colston, WR10, NO (10)

4.11 - Percy Harvin, WR22, Min (4)

6.11 - Derrick Mason, WR35, Bal (8)

9.06 - Kevin Walter, WR48, Hou (7)

12.11 - Jason Avant, WR73, Phi (8)

Only 5 WR's but this group will be very solid on a week-to-week basis. I cannot say it is the best WR corp in the league, but it is damn close given the variations of WR combo's out there.

Grade: A-

7.06 - John Carlson, TE14, Sea (5)

11.06 - Bo Scaife, TE19, Ten (9)

18.11 - Tony Moeaki, TE32, KC (4)

I like this group a lot. Many may not.

Grade: B

15.06 - Lawrence Tynes, K12, NYG (8)

17.06 - Joe Nedney, K23, SF (9)

2 solid K's.....enough said.

Grade: B-

13.06 - Titans, D15, Ten (9)

16.11 - Panthers, D28, Car (6)

2 solid D's.....enough said.

Grade: B+

Overall I really do think this team has a good shot to finish top 4 in this league. As with any year, unknown issues could arise to derail it, but on paper I really like this team to survive until the near end.

Overall Grade: A-

Please, feel free to comment.....I appreciate all opinions no matter what.
Ummm...this ain't public school.QB: At best a middling QB1 and QB2. C-

RB: Pretty much agree, might bump you down a peg because Matthews was a reach. B+

WR: An a average WR1, 2 x WR3, only five deep, and Walter/Mason with limited ceilings. D

TE: Below average talent but 3 bumps things up to average. C

K: Agree with you.

D: Sorry dude but I doubt many if any teams would trade D's with you. D

Overall grade - C
:excited: :banned: :unsure: That's cool Bass......thanks for the input!!

 
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jeter23

QB: Brett Favre , Matt Leinart

RB: Jonathan Stewart , CJ Spiller , Donald Brown , Marshawn Lynch , Javon Ringer

WR: Randy Moss , Calvin Johnson , Devin Hester , Mohammad Massaquoi , Mike Williams , Jordy Nelson

TE: Brent Celek , Jared Cook

PK: Jeff Reed

DEF: Dallas Cowboys , Houston Texans

QB's: I think 4 comes back although maybe not putting up the numbers he did last year....I need to take a long look at Leinart this summer because he really could be tremendous value going into this year in all type of leagues or a total bust....wish I could see inside his head to see what he is made of...he has a golden opportunity, will he take advantage of it or fold his tent at the first sign of adversity....I know the Warner story was nice the last couple of years, but I really think AZ wanted Leinart to be the man a couple of years ago...to me it is now or never, if it doesn't happen this year he could be done...anyway, I can't feel too good about this group because realistically you could have no starter heading into the season....if 4 retires and Leinart folds his tent after a bad preseason game or something=trouble.....I guess what I might have been more comfortable with is a solid backup to 4 even if it didn't have Leinart's upside....Like a Campbell or something...but looking back there weren't many other options.....Freeman who went with the pick before Leinart shared the same bye as 4 and then the other guys (Campbell,Hass, Orton, Moore) aren't much better, maybe Campbell/Moore would have been a better pick considering how Moore ended the year last year on a high note...and Campbell has been handed a new set of keys...

RB's: no #1 to found in the bunch but that will happen on the end and when you go WR/WR....Stewart falling to you helps, but I am not as high on Spiller as others, just not sure what his role will be in his first year with two vets in front of him....next year maybe, not sure what he gets now tho...Brown is a nice player, but not one of those guys who has really big games...if Lynch gets traded, this group all of a sudden becomes excellant because his value and Spiller's value increases...I just see some places where Lynch could go and produce for a team (TB/CLEV?)...Ringer not much production....anyway not crazy about this group, you could be chasing points here

WR's:after taking two studs in a start 3 league you didn't get another until the last pick of round 9....probably feeling the pressure to play catch up at the other positions and the QB2 run didn't help you either....while getting those two is a luxary, you don't want to let it lose it's shine by ignoring it, but that is hard to do in the 16 hole....between your 3-4-5-6 you should be able to get something respectable....

TE: Celek should be strong and if you wanted a strong TE you had to take him there.....you probably had a decision to make at that pick between getting another solid RB and punting the TE position or taking a stud TE....not sure what I would have done there either, but you could have had a Greene/Addai/Mccoy to add to Stewart and your two stud WR's.....tough call....Brown almost making it back to you in the 5th would have been nice....anyway...looks like Kolb loves Celek and Cook could bust out

PK's and DST's: one kicker, no issue from me and two solid DST's

Overall: from the end it is tough even though there has been some evidence that this spot can produce winners I guess...outside of a couple things I think you could have done differently (Moore/Campbell over Leinart or RB instead of Celek) this team is decent and if Lynch gets traded it would bump you up quite a bit....good luck

16 down....good luck to all

 
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Stinkin Ref's Power Poll:

1. RC94

2. Crippler

3. Jeff P

4. Ruffrody

5. Tex

6. Menobrown

7. Nugget

8. Wood

9. Beachbum

10. Helltuopee

11. Jeter

12. Yellow Line

13. Future Champs

14. Bostonfred

15. Ramrod

just a quick look...reserve right to adjust after further review

 
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If anybody wants to take a crack at this one, would love to have it ripped to shreds...

Stinkin Ref:

4.15 Kevin Kolb - QB9 - PHI (8)

7.02 Matt Cassell - QB20 - KCC (4)

1.02 Adrian Peterson - RB2 - MIN (4)

5.02 Jahvid Best - RB22 - DET (7)

9.02 LaDanian Tomlinson - RB40 -NYJ (7)

12.14 Toby Gerhart – RB53 -MIN (4)

15.02 Correll Buckhalter - RB - DEN (9)

2.15 Steve Smith - WR12 - CAR (6)

3.02 Vincent Jackson - WR14 - SDC (10)

6.15 Devin Aromashodu - WR38 - CHI (8)

8.15 Terrell Owens - WR45 - UFA (?)

10.15 Mario Manningham - WR62 - NYG (8)

18.15 Legedu Naanee – WR90 – SDC (10)

11.02 Jeremy Shockey - TE18 - NOS (10)

14.15 Tony Scheffler – TE27 - DET (7)

16.15 Olindo Mare – PK21 – SEA (5)

13.02 Indianapolis Colts DST14 (7)

17.02 Tampa Bay Buccaneers DST29 (4)

 
If anybody wants to take a crack at this one, would love to have it ripped to shreds...Stinkin Ref:4.15 Kevin Kolb - QB9 - PHI (8)7.02 Matt Cassell - QB20 - KCC (4)1.02 Adrian Peterson - RB2 - MIN (4)5.02 Jahvid Best - RB22 - DET (7)9.02 LaDanian Tomlinson - RB40 -NYJ (7)12.14 Toby Gerhart – RB53 -MIN (4)15.02 Correll Buckhalter - RB - DEN (9)2.15 Steve Smith - WR12 - CAR (6)3.02 Vincent Jackson - WR14 - SDC (10)6.15 Devin Aromashodu - WR38 - CHI (8)8.15 Terrell Owens - WR45 - UFA (?)10.15 Mario Manningham - WR62 - NYG (8)18.15 Legedu Naanee – WR90 – SDC (10)11.02 Jeremy Shockey - TE18 - NOS (10)14.15 Tony Scheffler – TE27 - DET (7)16.15 Olindo Mare – PK21 – SEA (5) 13.02 Indianapolis Colts DST14 (7)17.02 Tampa Bay Buccaneers DST29 (4)
Since you took the time, I'll give my 2 cents.QB - Solid. Kolb is underrated and he'll put up solid weeks. Cassel is a solid QB2 beyond 16 others and will cover you a few times. B+RB - ADP/Best strong 1-2 punch. Gerhart is insurance, although sometimes I question that with both bye weeks and roster spots. LT2 and CBuck should get you some TDs. One too many RBs IMHO. As a group, very solid. A.WR - Strong start with SSmith and VJax - then it's WR3BC. Not sure how that'll play out with TO not on a team yet. Naanee could be blocked by VJax (unless that's a 'cuff idea) and Manningham may not see too much playing time after SSmith and Nicks. We'll see. I'd have liked to see a 7th WR more than a 5th RB. As a group - B or so. The weeks SSmith and VJax are off will hurt. I think a B- on Week 8 may be in order, if even that. Could be your downfall.TE - Good duo but not rock solid. If Shockey is the NO TE all year, B+. If he's hurt, C-. Average: B-.PK - Only one and on a team that isn't great - but one that might struggle in the Red Zone. That's a PK plus. Still..... compared to the rest, C+D/ST - Colts are better than most given them credit for, but TB won't be all that. B.
 
If anybody wants to take a crack at this one, would love to have it ripped to shreds...

Stinkin Ref:

4.15 Kevin Kolb - QB9 - PHI (8)

7.02 Matt Cassell - QB20 - KCC (4)

1.02 Adrian Peterson - RB2 - MIN (4)

5.02 Jahvid Best - RB22 - DET (7)

9.02 LaDanian Tomlinson - RB40 -NYJ (7)

12.14 Toby Gerhart – RB53 -MIN (4)

15.02 Correll Buckhalter - RB - DEN (9)

2.15 Steve Smith - WR12 - CAR (6)

3.02 Vincent Jackson - WR14 - SDC (10)

6.15 Devin Aromashodu - WR38 - CHI (8)

8.15 Terrell Owens - WR45 - UFA (?)

10.15 Mario Manningham - WR62 - NYG (8)

18.15 Legedu Naanee – WR90 – SDC (10)

11.02 Jeremy Shockey - TE18 - NOS (10)

14.15 Tony Scheffler – TE27 - DET (7)

16.15 Olindo Mare – PK21 – SEA (5)

13.02 Indianapolis Colts DST14 (7)

17.02 Tampa Bay Buccaneers DST29 (4)
Since you took the time, I'll give my 2 cents.QB - Solid. Kolb is underrated and he'll put up solid weeks. Cassel is a solid QB2 beyond 16 others and will cover you a few times. B+

I agree and like this combo

RB - ADP/Best strong 1-2 punch. Gerhart is insurance, although sometimes I question that with both bye weeks and roster spots. LT2 and CBuck should get you some TDs. One too many RBs IMHO. As a group, very solid. A. Love the top 3 here. LT was a steal IMO. Buck certainly unnecessary and think waste of pick

WR - Strong start with SSmith and VJax - then it's WR3BC. Not sure how that'll play out with TO not on a team yet. Naanee could be blocked by VJax (unless that's a 'cuff idea) and Manningham may not see too much playing time after SSmith and Nicks. We'll see. I'd have liked to see a 7th WR more than a 5th RB. As a group - B or so. The weeks SSmith and VJax are off will hurt. I think a B- on Week 8 may be in order, if even that. Could be your downfall. I like this group again. Solid 1-2 punch and than a bunch of guys who could make up the #3 guy in any given week. I give this one a higher grade

TE - Good duo but not rock solid. If Shockey is the NO TE all year, B+. If he's hurt, C-. Average: B-. Not big on Scheffler at all in the end. Overrated. This mark is too high probably

PK - Only one and on a team that isn't great - but one that might struggle in the Red Zone. That's a PK plus. Still..... compared to the rest, C+ Agree but I dont know how much this team gets to redzone

D/ST - Colts are better than most given them credit for, but TB won't be all that. B. Agreed
As I stated in my rankings. I like this team as the QB/RB/WR combo might be the best in the league. But TE-PK-D might be the worst and this will determine how far you go
 
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thanks guys...a common theme from some other feedback in addition to you guys was the CBuck pick....guess I should revisit that but I actually kind of thought it was a no brainer....not necessarily who I picked but in taking a 5th at all....with ADP and Gehart both off in week 4 and LT and Best in week 7 I thought a 5th RB was warranted as another option those weeks in addition to just another option overall...guess I didn't feel comfortable going into those weeks with my RB spots pre determined...

 
thanks guys...a common theme from some other feedback in addition to you guys was the CBuck pick....guess I should revisit that but I actually kind of thought it was a no brainer....not necessarily who I picked but in taking a 5th at all....with ADP and Gehart both off in week 4 and LT and Best in week 7 I thought a 5th RB was warranted as another option those weeks in addition to just another option overall...guess I didn't feel comfortable going into those weeks with my RB spots pre determined...
Sometimes we get a little too tied up in bye week mgmt. You're concerned about week 7 however I believe Fred is missing a QB that week. Others will be hit by that time too. Having C-Buck will be nice for that week, but how much help will he be in weeks 14-17 relative to the help a upgrade at K or TE would be during those weeks?
 
thanks guys...a common theme from some other feedback in addition to you guys was the CBuck pick....guess I should revisit that but I actually kind of thought it was a no brainer....not necessarily who I picked but in taking a 5th at all....with ADP and Gehart both off in week 4 and LT and Best in week 7 I thought a 5th RB was warranted as another option those weeks in addition to just another option overall...guess I didn't feel comfortable going into those weeks with my RB spots pre determined...
One thing I've learned over the years in doing these is that many teams will have a "one starter, one backup" roster when they are done. Typical QB-RB-WR-TE-PK-D is 2-4-6-2-2-2, which is exactly 18. Some teams vary a little, trying to steal a roster spot here or there, but that's about average.Given that, you then have to look at the "bottom up" approach - if every team takes 2 TEs, are you OK with TE32 as your TE2? If so, you can wait forever at that spot. This year I saw RBs deep enough to wait for RB4 practically forever - I see 64-68 rosterable RBs this year. Knowing that I can afford to wait for RB4 to the bitter end. Positions that dive off quickly (QB, WR4/5, TE2) I wanted to grab earlier. Even PK2 is questionable this year.HTH
 
SSL4

QB: Peyton Manning

RB: Ronnie Brown , Ricky Williams , Tim Hightower , Brian Westbrook , Jason Snelling

WR: Steve Smith , Mike Sims Walker , Robert Meachem , Devery Henderson , Lance Moore , Laurent Robinson

TE: Antonio Gates , Greg Olson

PK: Stephen Gostowski , Shayne Graham

DEF: New York Jets , St Louis Rams

BSS - SSL2

QB - Peyton Manning(7),

RB - Ronnie Brown(5), Brandon Jacobs(8), LenDale White(5), LaDainian Tomlinson(7)

WR - Miles Austin(4), Robert Meachem(10), Kevin Walter(7), Devin Thomas (9), Earl Bennett(8),Antwaan Randle-el(5), Brandon LaFell(6)

TE - Tony Gonzalez(8), Anthony Fasano(5)

K - David Akers(8), Josh Brown(9)

D - San Diego(10), Tennessee(9)

Wow. A lot of similarities here. We are both riding solo with Manning, we both have Ronnie Brown as our RB1, and we both have stud TEs and solid Ks and Ds.

I think I like mine better across the board, but I'm not a huge fan of Austin. Then again, I know other people aren't sold on Sims-Walker, or the Meachem/Henderson/Moore approach I took as my WR3BC. At RB, I like Ronnie Brown/Ricky Williams better than Brown solo, but Brandon Jacobs/Tomlinson/LenDale will probably get more love than Hightower/Westbrook/Snelling. At TE, I like my Gates/Olson combo better than Gonzo/Fasano but we both did the same thing there. I also like the Jets D better than San Diego, but Tennessee obviously is better than the Rams. I like my kickers a little better, too, but it's close.

Weeks 5 and 8 could be a little rough for you - I struggle a little week 5 when Ricky/Ronnie are out and week 10 when all the Saints WRs are out. It will be interesting to see which of these teams does better.

 
Stinkin Ref

WR: Steve Smith , Vincent Jackson , Devin Aromashodu , Terrell Owens , Mario Manningham , Leegudu Naanee

Broken arm........check

Suspension and holdout........check

No :popcorn: ..........check

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