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STAR WARS: Episode 7 (All-Time #1 opening box office.) (1 Viewer)

The Phantom Menace wasn't bad because of Jar Jar... it was a bad movie because it was a horrifically poorly written movie.Probably the best video in the history of You Tube.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI
I forgot about this guy. Almost makes the abortions worth it. "Phantom Menace is the most disappointing thing in my life since my son" and "proto-gunisst".
This review of TPM is 10X better then first 3 movies put together.Qui Gone Gin, because he must be always drunk.
I like his one on the III too, he tells you why shot reverse shot dialog is terrible. Also, the number of times two characters sit on a couch and exposition dump.

 
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People take Star Wars far to seriously.

I love Star Wars....but jeez louise people.

We all know how much better the original trilogy is....and it will always be better. I never expected it to be topped.

Ever.

For good Historic Star Wars Lore I just play KOTOR.....far better. LOL.

 
I thought Star Wars was about the Skywalkers?? Not sure I like them getting into nieces and nephews. Besides I had thought GL had turned over/sold very rough outlines for 7,8, and 9? They would most certainly not include anything EU, ever. I think this is bogus. I hope, anyway.
He has used EU stuff before. The name Coruscant came from "Heir to the Empire".
Didn't know that. I thought he hated EU and he never really considered it Star Wars, well his Star Wars anyway.
He had to approve everything. Hopefully if they go this route Luke and Han still play major roles with Han dying at the hands of his son.
 
Is the moustache on the rebel commander who yells, "Come on!" after the first Imperial walker trips and falls the best 'stache in movie history?

 
I think Heir to the empire would be good t make into movies. Thrawn etc.
:goodposting: If they are going to use the EU material, this is probably the best for a good trilogy, imo.
Thrawn would be a fabulous enemy but if the rumor here is true and they're jumping right to Darth Caedus, than Thrawn et al is getting glossed right the #### over. I wonder if they'll even have Mara Jade.
I understood like 1/3rd of this conversation.

Thrawn is a crustacean, right?

Just kidding. I know he's the smurf admiral of the Imperial Fleet
 
flysack said:
I think Heir to the empire would be good t make into movies. Thrawn etc.
:goodposting: If they are going to use the EU material, this is probably the best for a good trilogy, imo.
Thrawn would be a fabulous enemy but if the rumor here is true and they're jumping right to Darth Caedus, than Thrawn et al is getting glossed right the #### over. I wonder if they'll even have Mara Jade.
I understood like 1/3rd of this conversation.

Thrawn is a crustacean, right?

Just kidding. I know he's the smurf admiral of the Imperial Fleet
it's a trap
 
I haven't read any of the EU books, but for those calling for Thrawn... don't Luke/Han/Leia still have major roles in that trilogy? Those actors need to be phased out quickly, so it makes sense to skip ahead.

 
I haven't read any of the EU books, but for those calling for Thrawn... don't Luke/Han/Leia still have major roles in that trilogy? Those actors need to be phased out quickly, so it makes sense to skip ahead.
been awhile since I read it, but IIRC the twins of Han & Leia are in those books. I could have it wrong though

 
They're not going to do the Heir stuff.

That story is far too lightweight for a new set of movies. Plus, they wouldn't launch a new set of movies based on pre-existing material.

 
I think you could possibly throw all of the EU stuff out the door except for a few bits here and there they may try to incorporate if the powers that be think it fits with their plan. When Heir was written it was a big deal as it was the first new material and Lucas had to review it and sign-off on it to make sure it was canon. But it didn't take many years for it to devolve into lowest common denominator junk with any crap writer they could find to pump out a series to just sell books. (Emperor Lucas loves his money after all.) Rogue Squadron, the Young Jedi Chronicles, Mon Mothma's Diary, Sisterhood of the Traveling Jawa's... all kinds of junk out there now with the Lucas Rubber Stamp of Approval.

 
I haven't read any of the EU books, but for those calling for Thrawn... don't Luke/Han/Leia still have major roles in that trilogy? Those actors need to be phased out quickly, so it makes sense to skip ahead.
been awhile since I read it, but IIRC the twins of Han & Leia are in those books. I could have it wrong though
But the story is set five years after the end of E6. That means the twins would be very young. One of the biggest problems with E1 is that Anakin is too young. Skipping ahead to their late teens is a good call.

The other obvious problem is that Hamill/Ford/Fisher have aged 30 years in those "5 years".

 
I think you could possibly throw all of the EU stuff out the door except for a few bits here and there they may try to incorporate if the powers that be think it fits with their plan. When Heir was written it was a big deal as it was the first new material and Lucas had to review it and sign-off on it to make sure it was canon. But it didn't take many years for it to devolve into lowest common denominator junk with any crap writer they could find to pump out a series to just sell books. (Emperor Lucas loves his money after all.) Rogue Squadron, the Young Jedi Chronicles, Mon Mothma's Diary, Sisterhood of the Traveling Jawa's... all kinds of junk out there now with the Lucas Rubber Stamp of Approval.
Hey, I remember liking the Rogue Squadron and Wraith Squadron books as a kid.

 
I really hope you aren't putting much effort into these attempts at humor Tinker.

I think I chuckled at the first one but the couple dozen or so since then have been painful at best.

 
I haven't read any of the EU books, but for those calling for Thrawn... don't Luke/Han/Leia still have major roles in that trilogy? Those actors need to be phased out quickly, so it makes sense to skip ahead.
been awhile since I read it, but IIRC the twins of Han & Leia are in those books. I could have it wrong though
But the story is set five years after the end of E6. That means the twins would be very young. One of the biggest problems with E1 is that Anakin is too young. Skipping ahead to their late teens is a good call.The other obvious problem is that Hamill/Ford/Fisher have aged 30 years in those "5 years".
Yes, no more kid actors in lead roles.

The whole first episode is superfluous and just there so we can see Anakin and Obi-Wan shake hands.

 
I would also be fine with Gosling.

I know these rumors are likely meaningless in the long run but if this did happen to come true I wonder if will we get to see Mara Jade.

 
I haven't read any of the EU books, but for those calling for Thrawn... don't Luke/Han/Leia still have major roles in that trilogy? Those actors need to be phased out quickly, so it makes sense to skip ahead.
been awhile since I read it, but IIRC the twins of Han & Leia are in those books. I could have it wrong though
But the story is set five years after the end of E6. That means the twins would be very young. One of the biggest problems with E1 is that Anakin is too young. Skipping ahead to their late teens is a good call.

The other obvious problem is that Hamill/Ford/Fisher have aged 30 years in those "5 years".
I don't know how much of an issue that will be after Ewan McGregor turned into Alec Guiness after about 16 years. I know desert living is rough, but damn...

 
I don't know how much of an issue that will be after Ewan McGregor turned into Alec Guiness after about 16 years. I know desert living is rough, but damn...
19 years

McGregor was 34 in ROTS, but was made up to look a little older than that. Even so, that would put him at 53 by the time of A New Hope.

Alec Guiness was 63 in A New Hope.

So while it's a stretch, it's not a huge one.

 
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I don't know how much of an issue that will be after Ewan McGregor turned into Alec Guiness after about 16 years. I know desert living is rough, but damn...
19 years

McGregor was 34 in ROTS, but was made up to look a little older than that. Even so, that would put him at 53 by the time of A New Hope.

Alec Guiness was 63 in A New Hope.

So while it's a stretch, it's not a huge one.
There's no aloe on Tattooine.

 
I don't know how much of an issue that will be after Ewan McGregor turned into Alec Guiness after about 16 years. I know desert living is rough, but damn...
19 years

McGregor was 34 in ROTS, but was made up to look a little older than that. Even so, that would put him at 53 by the time of A New Hope.

Alec Guiness was 63 in A New Hope.

So while it's a stretch, it's not a huge one.
The problem is that McGregor looked about 34 while Guiness looked like he was 75.

 
I don't know how much of an issue that will be after Ewan McGregor turned into Alec Guiness after about 16 years. I know desert living is rough, but damn...
19 years

McGregor was 34 in ROTS, but was made up to look a little older than that. Even so, that would put him at 53 by the time of A New Hope.

Alec Guiness was 63 in A New Hope.

So while it's a stretch, it's not a huge one.
There's no aloe on Tattooine.
:lmao:

He could have used some PABA too - a shame. A DAMNED shame.

 
I don't know how much of an issue that will be after Ewan McGregor turned into Alec Guiness after about 16 years. I know desert living is rough, but damn...
19 years

McGregor was 34 in ROTS, but was made up to look a little older than that. Even so, that would put him at 53 by the time of A New Hope.

Alec Guiness was 63 in A New Hope.

So while it's a stretch, it's not a huge one.
The problem is that McGregor looked about 34 while Guiness looked like he was 75.
He didn't look 34 in ROTS.

 
Maybe I'm just too familiar with him from other movies, but if I was the "Guess Your Age and Weight" guy at the fair and he rolled up, I would definitely have said mid 30s. On the other hand, Guiness would have walked away with a giant inflatable duck, because I would have put him at at least 70 in the original Star Wars.

 
I don't know how much of an issue that will be after Ewan McGregor turned into Alec Guiness after about 16 years. I know desert living is rough, but damn...
19 years

McGregor was 34 in ROTS, but was made up to look a little older than that. Even so, that would put him at 53 by the time of A New Hope.

Alec Guiness was 63 in A New Hope.

So while it's a stretch, it's not a huge one.
The problem is that McGregor looked about 34 while Guiness looked like he was 75.
I thought they did a pretty good job making him look in his 40's

http://swag77.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/mv5bodk2nzi5ntqxnl5bml5banbnxkftztcwote2nzi4na_-3-_v1-_sx640_sy273_.jpg

 
I don't know how much of an issue that will be after Ewan McGregor turned into Alec Guiness after about 16 years. I know desert living is rough, but damn...
19 years

McGregor was 34 in ROTS, but was made up to look a little older than that. Even so, that would put him at 53 by the time of A New Hope.

Alec Guiness was 63 in A New Hope.

So while it's a stretch, it's not a huge one.
The problem is that McGregor looked about 34 while Guiness looked like he was 75.
I thought they did a pretty good job making him look in his 40's

http://swag77.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/mv5bodk2nzi5ntqxnl5bml5banbnxkftztcwote2nzi4na_-3-_v1-_sx640_sy273_.jpg
That bushy beard doesn't hide those boyish eyes. He's so dreamy....

 
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Executive producer Kathleen Kennedy has given an update on the production of Episode VII at Star Wars Celebration Europe.

Kennedy revealed she is currently dividing her time between LucasFilm – where she's sat in George's old office, by the way – and Bad Robot, where she's busy having extensive story meetings with J.J. Abrams and the rest of the writing team at Bad Robot. And that emphasis on story and character became the overriding theme of the panel, entertainingly hosted by Warwick Davis.

"The story and characters are all we’re talking about right now. We have an amazing team at ILM, who can create fantastic effects, but if we don’t have a great story and characters, the effects mean nothing."

“We have an amazing team at ILM, who can create fantastic effects, but if we don’t have a great story and characters, the effects mean nothing."

For Kennedy character and story are fundamental to making enduring blockbuster entertainment. She should know, of course, working on Back to the Future, Jurassic Park, and ET, to name just three.

"I do think making huge popular culture, and I’ve had the good fortune to be a part of a lot it, well, it’s really hard to do and get right. And if you don’t spend the time you need on developing characters, and finding stories, complicated stories, the audience gets tired because they think they’re seeing the same thing again and again."

Kennedy also went on to talk about the use CG effects, which many believe the prequel trilogy relied upon too heavily. Kennedy is uniquely placed to comment on the relationship between traditional special effects and CG effects, since she worked on the very first CG effect ever created in the history of film (it was in Young Sherlock Holmes, if you were wondering).

She was also the producer on Jurassic Park, which pioneered the technology that features so heavily in today's blockbusters. It's something she's still clearly passionate about. "There's nothing more exciting than to be involved in that kind of technological innovation," said Kennedy. "When the story ideas you're working on contribute to pushing the technology. I really think that's what's so exciting about our business. It's the imagination drives that innovation and new design."

But she's also wary of films becoming overly reliant on such technology. Jurassic Park is a great example of how to successfully blend CG with practical effects, and it seems a similar philosophy, also informed by the original trilogy, will underpin the production of Episode VII. "It's a conversation we're having all the time in the development of Episode VII. Looking at all the Star Wars movies and getting a feel for what even some of the early films did in combination with real locations and special effects that's something we're looking very seriously at." This resulted in a rapturous applause from the audience, and the odd waving of an illuminated lightsaber. "So we're going to find some very cool locations that we're going to use in support of Ep. VII. And I think we're probably going to end up using every single tool in the toolbox to create the look of these movies."

And when asked what was in that toolbox, Kennedy said, "It's using model makers; it's using real droids; it's taking advantage of artwork that gets done that you actually can touch and feel. And we want to do that in combination with CG effects. We figure that's what will make it real."

A new Star Wars film focussing on character and story, featuring models and real-life locations as well as CG effects, and with a score by John Williams (confirmed earlier today). Interested now?
 
Kennedy also went on to talk about the use CG effects, which many believe the prequel trilogy relied upon too heavily. Kennedy is uniquely placed to comment on the relationship between traditional special effects and CG effects, since she worked on the very first CG effect ever created in the history of film (it was in Young Sherlock Holmes, if you were wondering).
Anyone know what they are talking about? Tron came out in 1982 and The Last Starfighter was 1984, both predate YSH (1985).

 
Kennedy also went on to talk about the use CG effects, which many believe the prequel trilogy relied upon too heavily. Kennedy is uniquely placed to comment on the relationship between traditional special effects and CG effects, since she worked on the very first CG effect ever created in the history of film (it was in Young Sherlock Holmes, if you were wondering).
Anyone know what they are talking about? Tron came out in 1982 and The Last Starfighter was 1984, both predate YSH (1985).
YSH is credited with having the first photorealistic CGI character. Computer effect themselves go all the way back to the late 60's as experiments. The first big name movie to employ some was Westworld back in 1973.

Wiki has a nice timeline of computer effects firsts in tv/film.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_computer_animation_in_film_and_television

 
And to answer the question specifically, for those that didn't check the wiki page

Young Sherlock Holmes

Lucasfilm creates the first photorealistic CGI character, 'stained glass knight' with 10 seconds of screentime.

 
NewlyRetired said:
joey said:
And to answer the question specifically.
I think I did answer the question in my post. Read my first sentence in the post above yours.
I just mentioned that it was the "stained glass knight character" that was the first cg character effect ever. But maybe I misread again.
 
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NewlyRetired said:
joey said:
And to answer the question specifically.
I think I did answer the question in my post. Read my first sentence in the post above yours.
I just mentioned that it was the "stained glass knight character" that was the first cg character effect ever. But maybe I misread again.
Good enough but it's not what was said in the article they quoted. Perhaps it's picking nits but the first cg character is, in my book, not even remotely the same as the quote:

...she worked on the very first CG effect ever created in the history of film
And wouldn't it be more appropriate to say "she worked on the same film for which the first cg character in the history of film was created"? I could be wrong but I doubt she was in the room writing code with the geeks.

It's either bad writing by the journalist or she is really full of herself.

 
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I think you could possibly throw all of the EU stuff out the door except for a few bits here and there they may try to incorporate if the powers that be think it fits with their plan. When Heir was written it was a big deal as it was the first new material and Lucas had to review it and sign-off on it to make sure it was canon. But it didn't take many years for it to devolve into lowest common denominator junk with any crap writer they could find to pump out a series to just sell books. (Emperor Lucas loves his money after all.) Rogue Squadron, the Young Jedi Chronicles, Mon Mothma's Diary, Sisterhood of the Traveling Jawa's... all kinds of junk out there now with the Lucas Rubber Stamp of Approval.
:lmao:

"Many Bothans died while reading this material...."

 
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Maybe I'm just too familiar with him from other movies, but if I was the "Guess Your Age and Weight" guy at the fair and he rolled up, I would definitely have said mid 30s. On the other hand, Guiness would have walked away with a giant inflatable duck, because I would have put him at at least 70 in the original Star Wars.
63 in 1977 doesn't look like 63 today.

 
ABC in talks to develop TV shows based on 'Star Wars' characters(Reuters) - ABC television executives are talking with George Lucas' Lucasfilm studio about making TV shows based on characters developed by the studio that created the "Star Wars" franchise, according to the president of Disney's ABC Entertainment Group.

"We've started conversations with them," Paul Lee told a gathering of TV critics meeting Sunday in Beverly Hills. "I have an inkling in my mind, but they have a lot on their plate."

Disney bought Lucasfilm in October for $4.1 billion and has said it intends to make a seventh "Star Wars" film in 2015 and a new one every two or three years thereafter.

This autumn, ABC will begin airing "Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D," it's first network program based on Marvel comic book characters since Disney paid $4.2 billion to buy the comic book and film studio in 2009.
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