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STAR WARS: Episode 7 (All-Time #1 opening box office.) (1 Viewer)

KarmaPolice said:
Hang 10 said:
KarmaPolice said:
Thunderlips said:
Not bad.......prolly see it when the crowd dies down. A little too much throwback BS.
"Throwback BS"?Wanting more Gungans or 8year olds who cant act?
I think it's a fair criticism. IF this movie is going to be any good, it needs to stand on it's own. The ONLY positive thing the prequels had was the nostalgia and they were miserable failures.
Would instantly be one of the best of the series if it has more practical effects and even above average acting.
Call me old fashioned but I like a good story too. I need more than tiefighters and laser swords.
Stick to Macbeth, then.

 
KarmaPolice said:
Hang 10 said:
KarmaPolice said:
Thunderlips said:
Not bad.......prolly see it when the crowd dies down. A little too much throwback BS.
"Throwback BS"?Wanting more Gungans or 8year olds who cant act?
I think it's a fair criticism. IF this movie is going to be any good, it needs to stand on it's own. The ONLY positive thing the prequels had was the nostalgia and they were miserable failures.
Would instantly be one of the best of the series if it has more practical effects and even above average acting.
Call me old fashioned but I like a good story too. I need more than tiefighters and laser swords.
i guess i am not doubting the story.

 
Thunderlips said:
KarmaPolice said:
Hang 10 said:
KarmaPolice said:
Thunderlips said:
Not bad.......prolly see it when the crowd dies down. A little too much throwback BS.
"Throwback BS"?Wanting more Gungans or 8year olds who cant act?
I think it's a fair criticism. IF this movie is going to be any good, it needs to stand on it's own. The ONLY positive thing the prequels had was the nostalgia and they were miserable failures.
Disagree. That is not the only way for it to be good. I love that it looks to be a blend of the old guard while introducing what is next for the series. Would instantly be one of the best of the series if it has more practical effects and even above average acting.A big problem with the last three is we knew where the story was heading.
The problem with the last three wasn't that we knew were it was going. It was how they got there.

  • The Phantom Menace is unnecessary...and its bad in the sense that Lucas was trying, more or less to shoehorn it into the "standalone movie" that A New Hope was.
  • Hayden Christanson was a bad actor. You needed a guy to nail the dichotomy of emotions Anakin was supposed to be feeling.
  • They killed off their best visual villain in the first one. No need to replace Maul with Count Dooku.
The new one has promise....I just don't want to see a fapfest homage to the original ones. If the characters work organically in the story...that's great. If they're just shoehorning them in for name recognition/pop....the story will suffer.
I dont think it will be shoehorned in. My assumption is it has to so with some of their kids since the force has to be passed down somehow since the Jedi were wiped out.

Hayden isnt a bad actor. He and others involved with those bad couple movies are fine in other things. Problem always has been that Lucas has no ear for dialogue and doesn't seem to be good at directing actors. More of an ideas man, and it is good that he handed ofc the franchise.
Hayden is an awful actor, but it's not all his fault. If you watch enough Woody Allen movies, he gets good performances out of people like Madonna and Scarlett Johansen. Lucas has no feel for acting.

Like, we're supposed to believe that this young Anakin was so alluring and charismatic that a queen found him irresistible? Hayden couldn't have bedded a truck stop waitress with that on-screen presence.

 
shader said:
It's hard for me to get excited about that black guy (don't know his name). In both previews he looks scared/frightened out of his mind every time they show him. I don't know what he's going through, but it can't be good.
He knows what can happen when the jedi pull him over for a traffic stop.

 
Thunderlips said:
KarmaPolice said:
Hang 10 said:
KarmaPolice said:
Thunderlips said:
Not bad.......prolly see it when the crowd dies down. A little too much throwback BS.
"Throwback BS"?Wanting more Gungans or 8year olds who cant act?
I think it's a fair criticism. IF this movie is going to be any good, it needs to stand on it's own. The ONLY positive thing the prequels had was the nostalgia and they were miserable failures.
Disagree. That is not the only way for it to be good. I love that it looks to be a blend of the old guard while introducing what is next for the series. Would instantly be one of the best of the series if it has more practical effects and even above average acting.A big problem with the last three is we knew where the story was heading.
The problem with the last three wasn't that we knew were it was going. It was how they got there.

  • The Phantom Menace is unnecessary...and its bad in the sense that Lucas was trying, more or less to shoehorn it into the "standalone movie" that A New Hope was.
  • Hayden Christanson was a bad actor. You needed a guy to nail the dichotomy of emotions Anakin was supposed to be feeling.
  • They killed off their best visual villain in the first one. No need to replace Maul with Count Dooku.
The new one has promise....I just don't want to see a fapfest homage to the original ones. If the characters work organically in the story...that's great. If they're just shoehorning them in for name recognition/pop....the story will suffer.
I dont think it will be shoehorned in. My assumption is it has to so with some of their kids since the force has to be passed down somehow since the Jedi were wiped out.Hayden isnt a bad actor. He and others involved with those bad couple movies are fine in other things. Problem always has been that Lucas has no ear for dialogue and doesn't seem to be good at directing actors. More of an ideas man, and it is good that he handed ofc the franchise.
Hayden is an awful actor, but it's not all his fault. If you watch enough Woody Allen movies, he gets good performances out of people like Madonna and Scarlett Johansen. Lucas has no feel for acting.

Like, we're supposed to believe that this young Anakin was so alluring and charismatic that a queen found him irresistible? Hayden couldn't have bedded a truck stop waitress with that on-screen presence.
He was perfectly fine in Life as a House. Portman can act, as can most of the rest of the cast. I put the blame on Lucas as most come off wooden and robotic.

 
Thunderlips said:
KarmaPolice said:
Hang 10 said:
KarmaPolice said:
Thunderlips said:
Not bad.......prolly see it when the crowd dies down. A little too much throwback BS.
"Throwback BS"?Wanting more Gungans or 8year olds who cant act?
I think it's a fair criticism. IF this movie is going to be any good, it needs to stand on it's own. The ONLY positive thing the prequels had was the nostalgia and they were miserable failures.
Disagree. That is not the only way for it to be good. I love that it looks to be a blend of the old guard while introducing what is next for the series. Would instantly be one of the best of the series if it has more practical effects and even above average acting.A big problem with the last three is we knew where the story was heading.
The problem with the last three wasn't that we knew were it was going. It was how they got there.

  • The Phantom Menace is unnecessary...and its bad in the sense that Lucas was trying, more or less to shoehorn it into the "standalone movie" that A New Hope was.
  • Hayden Christanson was a bad actor. You needed a guy to nail the dichotomy of emotions Anakin was supposed to be feeling.
  • They killed off their best visual villain in the first one. No need to replace Maul with Count Dooku.
The new one has promise....I just don't want to see a fapfest homage to the original ones. If the characters work organically in the story...that's great. If they're just shoehorning them in for name recognition/pop....the story will suffer.
I dont think it will be shoehorned in. My assumption is it has to so with some of their kids since the force has to be passed down somehow since the Jedi were wiped out.Hayden isnt a bad actor. He and others involved with those bad couple movies are fine in other things. Problem always has been that Lucas has no ear for dialogue and doesn't seem to be good at directing actors. More of an ideas man, and it is good that he handed ofc the franchise.
Hayden is an awful actor, but it's not all his fault. If you watch enough Woody Allen movies, he gets good performances out of people like Madonna and Scarlett Johansen. Lucas has no feel for acting.

Like, we're supposed to believe that this young Anakin was so alluring and charismatic that a queen found him irresistible? Hayden couldn't have bedded a truck stop waitress with that on-screen presence.
He was perfectly fine in Life as a House. Portman can act, as can most of the rest of the cast. I put the blame on Lucas as most come off wooden and robotic.
Fair enough on the Lucas v. Hayden blame. Regardless, the character suffered.

I guess I'm looking at it with the same caution that I am the DC Crossover series....particularly when comparing both to the MARVEL series (and I'm a much bigger DC fan). Marvel just feels "right". It feels organic. For some reason, setting this Star Wars (I'm presuming) 30 years after Return of the Jedi, with pretty much all the original characters (even in a supporting role) feels forced. I could have been more on board with the decision if they only brought back Luke or if it happened 20 years ago......but all of them,....I don't know.

I hope I'm wrong though. I'm certainly not rooting against it....and the preliminary action shots look great.

 
Thunderlips said:
KarmaPolice said:
Hang 10 said:
KarmaPolice said:
Thunderlips said:
Not bad.......prolly see it when the crowd dies down. A little too much throwback BS.
"Throwback BS"?Wanting more Gungans or 8year olds who cant act?
I think it's a fair criticism. IF this movie is going to be any good, it needs to stand on it's own. The ONLY positive thing the prequels had was the nostalgia and they were miserable failures.
Disagree. That is not the only way for it to be good. I love that it looks to be a blend of the old guard while introducing what is next for the series. Would instantly be one of the best of the series if it has more practical effects and even above average acting.A big problem with the last three is we knew where the story was heading.
The problem with the last three wasn't that we knew were it was going. It was how they got there.

  • The Phantom Menace is unnecessary...and its bad in the sense that Lucas was trying, more or less to shoehorn it into the "standalone movie" that A New Hope was.
  • Hayden Christanson was a bad actor. You needed a guy to nail the dichotomy of emotions Anakin was supposed to be feeling.
  • They killed off their best visual villain in the first one. No need to replace Maul with Count Dooku.
The new one has promise....I just don't want to see a fapfest homage to the original ones. If the characters work organically in the story...that's great. If they're just shoehorning them in for name recognition/pop....the story will suffer.
I dont think it will be shoehorned in. My assumption is it has to so with some of their kids since the force has to be passed down somehow since the Jedi were wiped out.Hayden isnt a bad actor. He and others involved with those bad couple movies are fine in other things. Problem always has been that Lucas has no ear for dialogue and doesn't seem to be good at directing actors. More of an ideas man, and it is good that he handed ofc the franchise.
Hayden is an awful actor, but it's not all his fault. If you watch enough Woody Allen movies, he gets good performances out of people like Madonna and Scarlett Johansen. Lucas has no feel for acting.

Like, we're supposed to believe that this young Anakin was so alluring and charismatic that a queen found him irresistible? Hayden couldn't have bedded a truck stop waitress with that on-screen presence.
He was perfectly fine in Life as a House. Portman can act, as can most of the rest of the cast. I put the blame on Lucas as most come off wooden and robotic.
Fair enough on the Lucas v. Hayden blame. Regardless, the character suffered.

I guess I'm looking at it with the same caution that I am the DC Crossover series....particularly when comparing both to the MARVEL series (and I'm a much bigger DC fan). Marvel just feels "right". It feels organic. For some reason, setting this Star Wars (I'm presuming) 30 years after Return of the Jedi, with pretty much all the original characters (even in a supporting role) feels forced. I could have been more on board with the decision if they only brought back Luke or if it happened 20 years ago......but all of them,....I don't know.

I hope I'm wrong though. I'm certainly not rooting against it....and the preliminary action shots look great.
I think the time period is based on the direct desire to bring back the three main characters. So from that perspective it's forced.

But by the same token, it would be difficult to have anything of import happen just a few years after ROTJ. You'd have to think it would take some time for the Empire to recuperate after the events of ROTJ. 30 years seems fine with me. Ultimately, the success is on the story, not the time period.

 
I think the time period is based on the direct desire to bring back the three main characters. So from that perspective it's forced.

But by the same token, it would be difficult to have anything of import happen just a few years after ROTJ. You'd have to think it would take some time for the Empire to recuperate after the events of ROTJ. 30 years seems fine with me. Ultimately, the success is on the story, not the time period.
I don't think it's forced. I think it's right for the story. And from everything I've heard, the old players will be nothing more than cameos. It's not like they are the stars. So I'm cool with it.

 
Thunderlips said:
KarmaPolice said:
Hang 10 said:
KarmaPolice said:
Thunderlips said:
Not bad.......prolly see it when the crowd dies down. A little too much throwback BS.
"Throwback BS"?Wanting more Gungans or 8year olds who cant act?
I think it's a fair criticism. IF this movie is going to be any good, it needs to stand on it's own. The ONLY positive thing the prequels had was the nostalgia and they were miserable failures.
Disagree. That is not the only way for it to be good. I love that it looks to be a blend of the old guard while introducing what is next for the series. Would instantly be one of the best of the series if it has more practical effects and even above average acting.A big problem with the last three is we knew where the story was heading.
The problem with the last three wasn't that we knew were it was going. It was how they got there.

  • The Phantom Menace is unnecessary...and its bad in the sense that Lucas was trying, more or less to shoehorn it into the "standalone movie" that A New Hope was.
  • Hayden Christanson was a bad actor. You needed a guy to nail the dichotomy of emotions Anakin was supposed to be feeling.
  • They killed off their best visual villain in the first one. No need to replace Maul with Count Dooku.
The new one has promise....I just don't want to see a fapfest homage to the original ones. If the characters work organically in the story...that's great. If they're just shoehorning them in for name recognition/pop....the story will suffer.
I dont think it will be shoehorned in. My assumption is it has to so with some of their kids since the force has to be passed down somehow since the Jedi were wiped out.Hayden isnt a bad actor. He and others involved with those bad couple movies are fine in other things. Problem always has been that Lucas has no ear for dialogue and doesn't seem to be good at directing actors. More of an ideas man, and it is good that he handed ofc the franchise.
Hayden is an awful actor, but it's not all his fault. If you watch enough Woody Allen movies, he gets good performances out of people like Madonna and Scarlett Johansen. Lucas has no feel for acting.

Like, we're supposed to believe that this young Anakin was so alluring and charismatic that a queen found him irresistible? Hayden couldn't have bedded a truck stop waitress with that on-screen presence.
He was perfectly fine in Life as a House. Portman can act, as can most of the rest of the cast. I put the blame on Lucas as most come off wooden and robotic.
Fair enough on the Lucas v. Hayden blame. Regardless, the character suffered.

I guess I'm looking at it with the same caution that I am the DC Crossover series....particularly when comparing both to the MARVEL series (and I'm a much bigger DC fan). Marvel just feels "right". It feels organic. For some reason, setting this Star Wars (I'm presuming) 30 years after Return of the Jedi, with pretty much all the original characters (even in a supporting role) feels forced. I could have been more on board with the decision if they only brought back Luke or if it happened 20 years ago......but all of them,....I don't know.

I hope I'm wrong though. I'm certainly not rooting against it....and the preliminary action shots look great.
I could be wrong, but thought the ideas for the next three have been around for awhile. Didn't Lucas have a plan for 9 altogether from the start? I could see your concern if it was more of a ploy from Disney that they had to include the old timers to drum up $.

Regardless, this series needs a good kick in the ### no matter what it is. I know they are tugging on my nostalgia strings, but seeing the X-wing fighters really got the juices flowing for me. Can't wait to share this with my son. Even if it doesn't live up to the hype for me, it will be worth it because i know he will love it either way.

 
Thunderlips said:
KarmaPolice said:
Hang 10 said:
KarmaPolice said:
Thunderlips said:
Not bad.......prolly see it when the crowd dies down. A little too much throwback BS.
"Throwback BS"?Wanting more Gungans or 8year olds who cant act?
I think it's a fair criticism. IF this movie is going to be any good, it needs to stand on it's own. The ONLY positive thing the prequels had was the nostalgia and they were miserable failures.
Disagree. That is not the only way for it to be good. I love that it looks to be a blend of the old guard while introducing what is next for the series. Would instantly be one of the best of the series if it has more practical effects and even above average acting.A big problem with the last three is we knew where the story was heading.
The problem with the last three wasn't that we knew were it was going. It was how they got there.

  • The Phantom Menace is unnecessary...and its bad in the sense that Lucas was trying, more or less to shoehorn it into the "standalone movie" that A New Hope was.
  • Hayden Christanson was a bad actor. You needed a guy to nail the dichotomy of emotions Anakin was supposed to be feeling.
  • They killed off their best visual villain in the first one. No need to replace Maul with Count Dooku.
The new one has promise....I just don't want to see a fapfest homage to the original ones. If the characters work organically in the story...that's great. If they're just shoehorning them in for name recognition/pop....the story will suffer.
I dont think it will be shoehorned in. My assumption is it has to so with some of their kids since the force has to be passed down somehow since the Jedi were wiped out.Hayden isnt a bad actor. He and others involved with those bad couple movies are fine in other things. Problem always has been that Lucas has no ear for dialogue and doesn't seem to be good at directing actors. More of an ideas man, and it is good that he handed ofc the franchise.
Hayden is an awful actor, but it's not all his fault. If you watch enough Woody Allen movies, he gets good performances out of people like Madonna and Scarlett Johansen. Lucas has no feel for acting.

Like, we're supposed to believe that this young Anakin was so alluring and charismatic that a queen found him irresistible? Hayden couldn't have bedded a truck stop waitress with that on-screen presence.
He was perfectly fine in Life as a House. Portman can act, as can most of the rest of the cast. I put the blame on Lucas as most come off wooden and robotic.
Fair enough on the Lucas v. Hayden blame. Regardless, the character suffered.

I guess I'm looking at it with the same caution that I am the DC Crossover series....particularly when comparing both to the MARVEL series (and I'm a much bigger DC fan). Marvel just feels "right". It feels organic. For some reason, setting this Star Wars (I'm presuming) 30 years after Return of the Jedi, with pretty much all the original characters (even in a supporting role) feels forced. I could have been more on board with the decision if they only brought back Luke or if it happened 20 years ago......but all of them,....I don't know.

I hope I'm wrong though. I'm certainly not rooting against it....and the preliminary action shots look great.
I could be wrong, but thought the ideas for the next three have been around for awhile. Didn't Lucas have a plan for 9 altogether from the start? I could see your concern if it was more of a ploy from Disney that they had to include the old timers to drum up $.

Regardless, this series needs a good kick in the ### no matter what it is. I know they are tugging on my nostalgia strings, but seeing the X-wing fighters really got the juices flowing for me. Can't wait to share this with my son. Even if it doesn't live up to the hype for me, it will be worth it because i know he will love it either way.
People still believe this crap?

 
People still believe this crap?
I could have sworn this was straight from Lucas but the only place I can remember seeing it was on the VHS set... and I dont have a VHS player to go find it.

But the 3rd set was to be han and leia's kids rebuilding the jedi order.

 
Thunderlips said:
KarmaPolice said:
Hang 10 said:
KarmaPolice said:
Thunderlips said:
Not bad.......prolly see it when the crowd dies down. A little too much throwback BS.
"Throwback BS"?Wanting more Gungans or 8year olds who cant act?
I think it's a fair criticism. IF this movie is going to be any good, it needs to stand on it's own. The ONLY positive thing the prequels had was the nostalgia and they were miserable failures.
Disagree. That is not the only way for it to be good. I love that it looks to be a blend of the old guard while introducing what is next for the series. Would instantly be one of the best of the series if it has more practical effects and even above average acting.A big problem with the last three is we knew where the story was heading.
The problem with the last three wasn't that we knew were it was going. It was how they got there.

  • The Phantom Menace is unnecessary...and its bad in the sense that Lucas was trying, more or less to shoehorn it into the "standalone movie" that A New Hope was.
  • Hayden Christanson was a bad actor. You needed a guy to nail the dichotomy of emotions Anakin was supposed to be feeling.
  • They killed off their best visual villain in the first one. No need to replace Maul with Count Dooku.
The new one has promise....I just don't want to see a fapfest homage to the original ones. If the characters work organically in the story...that's great. If they're just shoehorning them in for name recognition/pop....the story will suffer.
I dont think it will be shoehorned in. My assumption is it has to so with some of their kids since the force has to be passed down somehow since the Jedi were wiped out.Hayden isnt a bad actor. He and others involved with those bad couple movies are fine in other things. Problem always has been that Lucas has no ear for dialogue and doesn't seem to be good at directing actors. More of an ideas man, and it is good that he handed ofc the franchise.
Hayden is an awful actor, but it's not all his fault. If you watch enough Woody Allen movies, he gets good performances out of people like Madonna and Scarlett Johansen. Lucas has no feel for acting.

Like, we're supposed to believe that this young Anakin was so alluring and charismatic that a queen found him irresistible? Hayden couldn't have bedded a truck stop waitress with that on-screen presence.
He was perfectly fine in Life as a House. Portman can act, as can most of the rest of the cast. I put the blame on Lucas as most come off wooden and robotic.
Fair enough on the Lucas v. Hayden blame. Regardless, the character suffered.

I guess I'm looking at it with the same caution that I am the DC Crossover series....particularly when comparing both to the MARVEL series (and I'm a much bigger DC fan). Marvel just feels "right". It feels organic. For some reason, setting this Star Wars (I'm presuming) 30 years after Return of the Jedi, with pretty much all the original characters (even in a supporting role) feels forced. I could have been more on board with the decision if they only brought back Luke or if it happened 20 years ago......but all of them,....I don't know.

I hope I'm wrong though. I'm certainly not rooting against it....and the preliminary action shots look great.
I could be wrong, but thought the ideas for the next three have been around for awhile. Didn't Lucas have a plan for 9 altogether from the start? I could see your concern if it was more of a ploy from Disney that they had to include the old timers to drum up $.

Regardless, this series needs a good kick in the ### no matter what it is. I know they are tugging on my nostalgia strings, but seeing the X-wing fighters really got the juices flowing for me. Can't wait to share this with my son. Even if it doesn't live up to the hype for me, it will be worth it because i know he will love it either way.
People still believe this crap?
So it isn't the case they had the story for the next 3?

 
I think the time period is based on the direct desire to bring back the three main characters. So from that perspective it's forced.

But by the same token, it would be difficult to have anything of import happen just a few years after ROTJ. You'd have to think it would take some time for the Empire to recuperate after the events of ROTJ. 30 years seems fine with me. Ultimately, the success is on the story, not the time period.
I don't think it's forced. I think it's right for the story. And from everything I've heard, the old players will be nothing more than cameos. It's not like they are the stars. So I'm cool with it.
So we're going to be robbed of Carrie Fisher getting back in the metal bikini again?

 
I think the time period is based on the direct desire to bring back the three main characters. So from that perspective it's forced.

But by the same token, it would be difficult to have anything of import happen just a few years after ROTJ. You'd have to think it would take some time for the Empire to recuperate after the events of ROTJ. 30 years seems fine with me. Ultimately, the success is on the story, not the time period.
I don't think it's forced. I think it's right for the story. And from everything I've heard, the old players will be nothing more than cameos. It's not like they are the stars. So I'm cool with it.
So we're going to be robbed of Carrie Fisher getting back in the metal bikini again?
Have you seen her lately? I don't think anyone wants that.

 
This is going to be ####### awesome.

Hope they don't say #### about the plot and just keep teasing awesome visuals. No way that will happen so will have to have serious will power and luck to avoid everything.

 
I think the time period is based on the direct desire to bring back the three main characters. So from that perspective it's forced.

But by the same token, it would be difficult to have anything of import happen just a few years after ROTJ. You'd have to think it would take some time for the Empire to recuperate after the events of ROTJ. 30 years seems fine with me. Ultimately, the success is on the story, not the time period.
I don't think it's forced. I think it's right for the story. And from everything I've heard, the old players will be nothing more than cameos. It's not like they are the stars. So I'm cool with it.
So we're going to be robbed of Carrie Fisher getting back in the metal bikini again?
Have you seen her lately? I don't think anyone wants that.
She would be the one holding the lease at this point.

 
I think the time period is based on the direct desire to bring back the three main characters. So from that perspective it's forced.

But by the same token, it would be difficult to have anything of import happen just a few years after ROTJ. You'd have to think it would take some time for the Empire to recuperate after the events of ROTJ. 30 years seems fine with me. Ultimately, the success is on the story, not the time period.
I don't think it's forced. I think it's right for the story. And from everything I've heard, the old players will be nothing more than cameos. It's not like they are the stars. So I'm cool with it.
So we're going to be robbed of Carrie Fisher getting back in the metal bikini again?
Have you seen her lately? I don't think anyone wants that.
She would be the one holding the lease at this point.
If she was holding the lease, it would be memorizing!

 
OK, that got me far too fired up. Things I liked:

The Vader helmet, disfigured from the Emperor's Force lightning

The scene when the African-American guy takes off his stormtrooper helmet was just like Han Solo taking off his in the original Star Wars

No cute, cuddly creatures

Not crazy about the Millenium Falcon going on another quasi-Death Star run, as it was already a little tired when they did it at the end of Jedi

Wookies don't get old?

 
OK, that got me far too fired up. Things I liked:

The Vader helmet, disfigured from the Emperor's Force lightning

The scene when the African-American guy takes off his stormtrooper helmet was just like Han Solo taking off his in the original Star Wars

No cute, cuddly creatures

Not crazy about the Millenium Falcon going on another quasi-Death Star run, as it was already a little tired when they did it at the end of Jedi

Wookies don't get old?
The fur hides his wrinkles.

 
OK, that got me far too fired up. Things I liked:

The Vader helmet, disfigured from the Emperor's Force lightning

The scene when the African-American guy takes off his stormtrooper helmet was just like Han Solo taking off his in the original Star Wars

No cute, cuddly creatures

Not crazy about the Millenium Falcon going on another quasi-Death Star run, as it was already a little tired when they did it at the end of Jedi

Wookies don't get old?
I agree with this, makes me very excited.

Wouldnt the bolded be more from the funeral pyre on Endor then the force lightening?

 
OK, that got me far too fired up. Things I liked:

The Vader helmet, disfigured from the Emperor's Force lightning

The scene when the African-American guy takes off his stormtrooper helmet was just like Han Solo taking off his in the original Star Wars

No cute, cuddly creatures

Not crazy about the Millenium Falcon going on another quasi-Death Star run, as it was already a little tired when they did it at the end of Jedi

Wookies don't get old?
I agree with this, makes me very excited.

Wouldnt the bolded be more from the funeral pyre on Endor then the force lightening?
That was my thought as well.

 
The only thing that worries me from the trailer is Leia possibly doing Jedi things. God I hope they don't have her flipping around with a light saber like yoda.

And yeah, vaders helmet is clearly melted by Luke's fire not lightning

 
OK, that got me far too fired up. Things I liked:

The Vader helmet, disfigured from the Emperor's Force lightning

The scene when the African-American guy takes off his stormtrooper helmet was just like Han Solo taking off his in the original Star Wars

No cute, cuddly creatures

Not crazy about the Millenium Falcon going on another quasi-Death Star run, as it was already a little tired when they did it at the end of Jedi

Wookies don't get old?
The average wookie can live for about 300 years.

 
jdoggydogg said:
Mrs. Dogg asked me why I'm excited to see another Star Wars movie.

I said, "Because this one's going to be good."

:popcorn:
If Mrs. Chaka asked that question I would answer her with divorce papers because clearly she don't know me.

 
Hang 10 said:
The visuals in the trailer look really cool. The movie is still likely to disappoint though. Just seems too ambitious that not only are they going to come up with a decent original story but also that the geezers from the first 3 movies are going to have anything left in the tank to still be convincing. I love Harrison Ford but he's really been mailing it in the past few years.
I thought he was good in Ender's Game and fine in 42 as well.

 
OK, that got me far too fired up. Things I liked:

The Vader helmet, disfigured from the Emperor's Force lightning

The scene when the African-American guy takes off his stormtrooper helmet was just like Han Solo taking off his in the original Star Wars

No cute, cuddly creatures

Not crazy about the Millenium Falcon going on another quasi-Death Star run, as it was already a little tired when they did it at the end of Jedi

Wookies don't get old?
:confused: Neither Africa nor America exists in the SW universe.

 
OK, that got me far too fired up. Things I liked:

The Vader helmet, disfigured from the Emperor's Force lightning

The scene when the African-American guy takes off his stormtrooper helmet was just like Han Solo taking off his in the original Star Wars

No cute, cuddly creatures

Not crazy about the Millenium Falcon going on another quasi-Death Star run, as it was already a little tired when they did it at the end of Jedi

Wookies don't get old?
:confused: Neither Africa nor America exists in the SW universe.
Exactly. Clearly he's a sub-Jundland Tatooinian

 
OK, that got me far too fired up. Things I liked:

The Vader helmet, disfigured from the Emperor's Force lightning

The scene when the African-American guy takes off his stormtrooper helmet was just like Han Solo taking off his in the original Star Wars

No cute, cuddly creatures

Not crazy about the Millenium Falcon going on another quasi-Death Star run, as it was already a little tired when they did it at the end of Jedi

Wookies don't get old?
:confused: Neither Africa nor America exists in the SW universe.
Exactly. Clearly he's a sub-Jundland Tatooinian
Summer Islander IMO

 
I think the time period is based on the direct desire to bring back the three main characters. So from that perspective it's forced.

But by the same token, it would be difficult to have anything of import happen just a few years after ROTJ. You'd have to think it would take some time for the Empire to recuperate after the events of ROTJ. 30 years seems fine with me. Ultimately, the success is on the story, not the time period.
I don't think it's forced. I think it's right for the story. And from everything I've heard, the old players will be nothing more than cameos. It's not like they are the stars. So I'm cool with it.
So we're going to be robbed of Carrie Fisher getting back in the metal bikini again?
My sources tell me there is a shaved ewok twister scene instead

 
Thunderlips said:
KarmaPolice said:
Hang 10 said:
KarmaPolice said:
Thunderlips said:
Not bad.......prolly see it when the crowd dies down. A little too much throwback BS.
"Throwback BS"?Wanting more Gungans or 8year olds who cant act?
I think it's a fair criticism. IF this movie is going to be any good, it needs to stand on it's own. The ONLY positive thing the prequels had was the nostalgia and they were miserable failures.
Disagree. That is not the only way for it to be good. I love that it looks to be a blend of the old guard while introducing what is next for the series. Would instantly be one of the best of the series if it has more practical effects and even above average acting.A big problem with the last three is we knew where the story was heading.
The problem with the last three wasn't that we knew were it was going. It was how they got there.

  • The Phantom Menace is unnecessary...and its bad in the sense that Lucas was trying, more or less to shoehorn it into the "standalone movie" that A New Hope was.
  • Hayden Christanson was a bad actor. You needed a guy to nail the dichotomy of emotions Anakin was supposed to be feeling.
  • They killed off their best visual villain in the first one. No need to replace Maul with Count Dooku.
The new one has promise....I just don't want to see a fapfest homage to the original ones. If the characters work organically in the story...that's great. If they're just shoehorning them in for name recognition/pop....the story will suffer.
I dont think it will be shoehorned in. My assumption is it has to so with some of their kids since the force has to be passed down somehow since the Jedi were wiped out.Hayden isnt a bad actor. He and others involved with those bad couple movies are fine in other things. Problem always has been that Lucas has no ear for dialogue and doesn't seem to be good at directing actors. More of an ideas man, and it is good that he handed ofc the franchise.
Hayden is an awful actor, but it's not all his fault. If you watch enough Woody Allen movies, he gets good performances out of people like Madonna and Scarlett Johansen. Lucas has no feel for acting.

Like, we're supposed to believe that this young Anakin was so alluring and charismatic that a queen found him irresistible? Hayden couldn't have bedded a truck stop waitress with that on-screen presence.
He was perfectly fine in Life as a House. Portman can act, as can most of the rest of the cast. I put the blame on Lucas as most come off wooden and robotic.
I will never forget some of the cringe-worthy lines between Hayden/Portman in the prequals.

Anakin Skywalker: You are so... beautiful.

Padmé: It's only because I'm so in love.

Anakin Skywalker: No, it's because I'm so in love with you.

Padmé: So love has blinded you?

Anakin Skywalker: [laughs] Well, that's not exactly what I meant.

Padmé: But it's probably true.

 
OK, that got me far too fired up. Things I liked:

The Vader helmet, disfigured from the Emperor's Force lightning

The scene when the African-American guy takes off his stormtrooper helmet was just like Han Solo taking off his in the original Star Wars

No cute, cuddly creatures

Not crazy about the Millenium Falcon going on another quasi-Death Star run, as it was already a little tired when they did it at the end of Jedi

Wookies don't get old?
The fur hides his wrinkles.
maybe he has a huge bald spot, but he is too tall to see it.

 
Thunderlips said:
KarmaPolice said:
Hang 10 said:
KarmaPolice said:
Thunderlips said:
Not bad.......prolly see it when the crowd dies down. A little too much throwback BS.
"Throwback BS"?Wanting more Gungans or 8year olds who cant act?
I think it's a fair criticism. IF this movie is going to be any good, it needs to stand on it's own. The ONLY positive thing the prequels had was the nostalgia and they were miserable failures.
Disagree. That is not the only way for it to be good. I love that it looks to be a blend of the old guard while introducing what is next for the series. Would instantly be one of the best of the series if it has more practical effects and even above average acting.A big problem with the last three is we knew where the story was heading.
The problem with the last three wasn't that we knew were it was going. It was how they got there.

  • The Phantom Menace is unnecessary...and its bad in the sense that Lucas was trying, more or less to shoehorn it into the "standalone movie" that A New Hope was.
  • Hayden Christanson was a bad actor. You needed a guy to nail the dichotomy of emotions Anakin was supposed to be feeling.
  • They killed off their best visual villain in the first one. No need to replace Maul with Count Dooku.
The new one has promise....I just don't want to see a fapfest homage to the original ones. If the characters work organically in the story...that's great. If they're just shoehorning them in for name recognition/pop....the story will suffer.
I dont think it will be shoehorned in. My assumption is it has to so with some of their kids since the force has to be passed down somehow since the Jedi were wiped out.Hayden isnt a bad actor. He and others involved with those bad couple movies are fine in other things. Problem always has been that Lucas has no ear for dialogue and doesn't seem to be good at directing actors. More of an ideas man, and it is good that he handed ofc the franchise.
Hayden is an awful actor, but it's not all his fault. If you watch enough Woody Allen movies, he gets good performances out of people like Madonna and Scarlett Johansen. Lucas has no feel for acting.

Like, we're supposed to believe that this young Anakin was so alluring and charismatic that a queen found him irresistible? Hayden couldn't have bedded a truck stop waitress with that on-screen presence.
He was perfectly fine in Life as a House. Portman can act, as can most of the rest of the cast. I put the blame on Lucas as most come off wooden and robotic.
I will never forget some of the cringe-worthy lines between Hayden/Portman in the prequals.

Anakin Skywalker: You are so... beautiful.

Padmé: It's only because I'm so in love.

Anakin Skywalker: No, it's because I'm so in love with you.

Padmé: So love has blinded you?

Anakin Skywalker: [laughs] Well, that's not exactly what I meant.

Padmé: But it's probably true.
Shocking that Lucas hasn't been up for any screenwriting awards.

 
Thunderlips said:
KarmaPolice said:
Hang 10 said:
KarmaPolice said:
Thunderlips said:
Not bad.......prolly see it when the crowd dies down. A little too much throwback BS.
"Throwback BS"?Wanting more Gungans or 8year olds who cant act?
I think it's a fair criticism. IF this movie is going to be any good, it needs to stand on it's own. The ONLY positive thing the prequels had was the nostalgia and they were miserable failures.
Disagree. That is not the only way for it to be good. I love that it looks to be a blend of the old guard while introducing what is next for the series. Would instantly be one of the best of the series if it has more practical effects and even above average acting.A big problem with the last three is we knew where the story was heading.
The problem with the last three wasn't that we knew were it was going. It was how they got there.

  • The Phantom Menace is unnecessary...and its bad in the sense that Lucas was trying, more or less to shoehorn it into the "standalone movie" that A New Hope was.
  • Hayden Christanson was a bad actor. You needed a guy to nail the dichotomy of emotions Anakin was supposed to be feeling.
  • They killed off their best visual villain in the first one. No need to replace Maul with Count Dooku.
The new one has promise....I just don't want to see a fapfest homage to the original ones. If the characters work organically in the story...that's great. If they're just shoehorning them in for name recognition/pop....the story will suffer.
I dont think it will be shoehorned in. My assumption is it has to so with some of their kids since the force has to be passed down somehow since the Jedi were wiped out.Hayden isnt a bad actor. He and others involved with those bad couple movies are fine in other things. Problem always has been that Lucas has no ear for dialogue and doesn't seem to be good at directing actors. More of an ideas man, and it is good that he handed ofc the franchise.
Hayden is an awful actor, but it's not all his fault. If you watch enough Woody Allen movies, he gets good performances out of people like Madonna and Scarlett Johansen. Lucas has no feel for acting.

Like, we're supposed to believe that this young Anakin was so alluring and charismatic that a queen found him irresistible? Hayden couldn't have bedded a truck stop waitress with that on-screen presence.
He was perfectly fine in Life as a House. Portman can act, as can most of the rest of the cast. I put the blame on Lucas as most come off wooden and robotic.
I will never forget some of the cringe-worthy lines between Hayden/Portman in the prequals.

Anakin Skywalker: You are so... beautiful.

Padmé: It's only because I'm so in love.

Anakin Skywalker: No, it's because I'm so in love with you.

Padmé: So love has blinded you?

Anakin Skywalker: [laughs] Well, that's not exactly what I meant.

Padmé: But it's probably true.
Literally made me cringe. Some of the worst dialogue and acting you could find on film. So uncomfortable to watch.

 

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