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I'm saying that Ren is Luke's son. "The rumors are true" line......the idea that Ren is tied into Vader.....that Anakin turned bad, Luke stayed good and now his son will be bad. To me, Ren as just some randon intergalactic Vader fanboy doesn't work. He has to be tied to the family in some way.
The rumors are true line seems more like Han confirming what seems like myth to people who weren't there.
Han became a believer after he was skeptical so I'm ok with him turning the corner on the Jedi, etc.I just really hope that Luke hasn't turned else that sorts of ruins the middle 3 movies for me where he took down the dark side. That would be a difficult story for me to embrace.
Something like this wouldn't shock me, but I really hope that this isn't the plot. I'd be fine with his son turning, but not Luke.
If he has mental issues over what happened, goes into deep cover, and his actions cause for the rise of the dark side somehow, I'm good with that; just not him personally turning.
That's a good question. You'd think he would be happy that he turned Darth Vader back into the good person that was his father. Not sure why he would be so upset to go into exile, contribute to his kid (who's the mother?) turning to the dark side, etc.
Maybe Obi Wan and Yoda keep appearing to Luke at inappropriate times just because they're bored, and... OOPS it drive Luke insane.
Obi Wan was upset that Luke stepped out and had a child and showed human emotions.
I'm in this camp too. What he wants to finish is killing the last of the Jedi (Uncle Luke), which is why Luke won't be seen until the end of the movie when Kylo Ren kills...his father, Han. That's whose body Rey (Kylo Ren's sister?) is crying over.
From what I understood they are not considering it, it's done. They will not license that image anymore.
And you both chose heavy CG scenes as examples. Irony.The shot of the ties with the sun behind them is badass. My new wallpaper.
There is definitely a difference when we are talking humans in the scene. Much more realistic climbing down into a mocked up star destroyer than pretending on a green wall.And you both chose heavy CG scenes as examples. Irony.The shot of the ties with the sun behind them is badass. My new wallpaper.
Goes to show that fake vs. real doesn't always equal cg vs. practical effects.
Great effects work is great effects work, regardless of whether they're created practically or though computer graphics.
I will walk out of the theater if that happens.
Who hasn't thought about removing Leia's bikini?
If Yoda is to be believed, Luke was never ready and, notwithstanding his taking down of the emperor (thanks to pops) in Jedi, never really immunized himself from the darkside when he did not complete his initial training. He gave into his hate on the deathstar and maybe it has been festering over the last three decades.
Yoda isn't to be believed because he was part of a failed organization that actually created Darth Vader. If he knew so much about the Force he wouldn't have taken a child away from his mother and left her to be a slave the rest of her life. Seriously, #### the old Jedi.
Yea...they can reject new submissions, but they can't do anything about existing approved items. Whoever makes them could run 1m units and whatever retailer carries them could load up.
That and dark side Luke (same series) were two of the worst EU ideas. Let's hope they stay buried.
Yeah, but even they cheated. Bones was in the pilot. Scotty made an appearance in season 4 and even Captain Kirk was in their first movie, along with Checkov (although I'm ok with Checkov if you have followed the outside of the movies history of the universe there).
