STAR WARS: Episode 7 (All-Time #1 opening box office.) (1 Viewer)

[El Floppo]

And ftr, partway through ep 1 I realized it was a crap movie.

That lowered my expectations a lot for the next two (which I still saw in the theater), which didnt help get me past the wooden performances by otherwise good actors and horrifically bad performances by worse ones. And the writing that felt like my 8 yo's journal. And surprisingly static cgr. And ####### jar jar.

Eta. I am fired up for this one, but if its even close to the levels of those last three, I'm out.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

How can you not be fired up? But I feel like Floppo, ep1 led to lower expectations for ep2-3 for me. I kind if have a sense of dread. It's just been sort of a downward spiral of storytelling since ep6 really. The keys to eps4-5 were that they engaged in some classic mythology and movie craft which goes way back in time. Instead of carrying forward this best aspect of scifi which allows for some essential human themes in unlimited abstract environments they went off into product marketing driven plots lacking basic structure and extremely boring narrative character exposition (eps1-3) which were totally disconnected and almost entirely unaware of what made eps1-2 some of the best storytelling ever. So now Disney is in charge. It's no wonder they drag us in with the hope that someone will rediscover the magic. If it does disappoint again I will do what I did with 6 & 1-3, compartmentalize it and pretend it never happened.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Can't wait.

 

[shadyridr]

My son just started getting into star wars at age 6. His entire Christmas list is lego star wars sets. I just started showing him the movies. Started with the originals and he loved them. I don't have episode 1 and he wants to watch it cuz of jar jar binks. Yes i know the movie sucks but he wants to see it. I might just skip to episode 2 anyway.

 

[snore]

And ftr, partway through ep 1 I realized it was a crap movie.

That lowered my expectations a lot for the next two (which I still saw in the theater), which didnt help get me past the wooden performances by otherwise good actors and horrifically bad performances by worse ones. And the writing that felt like my 8 yo's journal. And surprisingly static cgr. And ####### jar jar.

Eta. I am fired up for this one, but if its even close to the levels of those last three, I'm out.

Hayden Christensen was the worst part of the first three. I can get over the campiness of jar jar as I somewhat equate that to the campiness of the ewoks. Stoked for the movies but my wife doesn't want us to go opening night because she is worried about movie theater attacks, etc given the recent events that have taken place. Still going but maybe opening weekend vs opening night (which was my plan all along).

 

[shadyridr]

Oh and one thing I didn't realize as a kid growing up was carrie Fisher was so gorgeous.

 

[Billy Bats]

Oh and one thing I didn't realize as a kid growing up was carrie Fisher was so gorgeous.

Still would. Could be fun to drink and smoke a bowl with her, she seems like a good time.

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[Tom Servo]

For guys that are counting down the days and have obvious excitement over seeing this...do you think you'll be able to be objective with your reviews? What if this is a steaming pile of turds like the Phantom Menace? Because I haven't been to a movie in years and I kind of want to take my son to this after the frothiness subsides, but I'm not going if the story sucks as bad as the last 3. I'm hopeful, but cautious.

Since I never saw the 1-2-3 versions of SW, I'm basically looking at this as the next movie after 6. I'm looking forward to this because my older son is excited about it. and I take him and his brother to all the Marvel movies. So, while I'm nostalgic about it, I'm also looking forward to some bonding time with my sons.

 

[The Duff Man]

Just watched Star Wars with my 10 and 8 year old daughters....they finally got into it thanks to the commercials for the new one.

Did the 4,5,,1,2,3,6 order. It plays well that way.

Had to console the 8 year old as Luke took off Vaders mask, the tears were flowing.

Within minutes of finishing my 10 year old says, "I bet Luke goes to the dark side".

So I guess she has a future speculating in FFA threads.

Can't wait for 7.

 

[shadyridr]

Is kylo ren the main bad guy?

 

[the moops]

why does the 451236 order play well?

 

[Billy Bats]

Is kylo ren the main bad guy?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X4JVcvR7IM0

 

[shadyridr]

why does the 451236 order play well?

I think that's called the machete order. 1,2,3 are supposed to act like a long flashback.

 

[shadyridr]

Is kylo ren the main bad guy?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X4JVcvR7IM0

sorry trying not to Google stuff. I know very little about this movie and trying to keep it that way but I see this character everywhere and he's friggin cool

 

[Billy Bats]

Is kylo ren the main bad guy?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X4JVcvR7IM0

sorry trying not to Google stuff. I know very little about this movie and trying to keep it that way but I see this character everywhere and he's friggin cool

Oh Ren is 1A but there's a tagteam as usual in SW. I didn't want to tell you too much myself.ETA: ren is probably the main bad guy in the movie, but maybe not overall.

 

[The Duff Man]

Yeah 1-3 are the flashback, and it draws out the suspense you are left with from 5. Han is frozen. Vader is Luke's father.

But before you get the payoff you get the story of how Vader becomes who he is.

It intensified the ending of 6.

 

[the moops]

Oh and one thing I didn't realize as a kid growing up was carrie Fisher was so gorgeous.

gold bikini down?

 

[El Floppo]

Oh and one thing I didn't realize as a kid growing up was carrie Fisher was so gorgeous.

gold bikini down?

Not enough to have ever made her "so gorgeous"

 

[shadyridr]

Oh and one thing I didn't realize as a kid growing up was carrie Fisher was so gorgeous.

gold bikini down?

I was 6

 

[shadyridr]

Oh and by gorgeous I meant pretty in the face. Yes I realized the bikini scene was the envy of many men

 

[Billy Bats]

Oh and one thing I didn't realize as a kid growing up was carrie Fisher was so gorgeous.

gold bikini down?

I was 6

Yea, and?

 

[Billy Bats]

Quick 2 minute behind the scenes. No spoilers.

https://amp.twimg.com/v/6292249e-dded-4f92-9166-98d619ac345f

 

[Tom Servo]

Oh and one thing I didn't realize as a kid growing up was carrie Fisher was so gorgeous.

gold bikini down?

I was 6

Want that like 1983? I was 19.

 

[bentley]

My son just started getting into star wars at age 6. His entire Christmas list is lego star wars sets. I just started showing him the movies. Started with the originals and he loved them. I don't have episode 1 and he wants to watch it cuz of jar jar binks. Yes i know the movie sucks but he wants to see it. I might just skip to episode 2 anyway.

I've said it in here a couple times but my six year old hated episode 1. Mostly because of the overly long and boring Senate stuff and the rest of the wooden acting. That movie would have benefitted from being a half hour shorter even with Jar Jar. He never showed interest in 2 or 3 because of that.

Luckily, he's beyond stoked for this one. Can't wait!

 

[strykerpks]

There's a historical theater in Milwaukee that just underwent major renovations after being closed for like 15 years. It's their 1 year anniversary of being open again and they are having the 7pm showing on the 17th for free (first 200 people). I wonder when that line starts forming.

 

[KarmaPolice]

There's a historical theater in Milwaukee that just underwent major renovations after being closed for like 15 years. It's their 1 year anniversary of being open again and they are having the 7pm showing on the 17th for free (first 200 people). I wonder when that line starts Started forming.

Probably 2 weeks ago.

 

[KarmaPolice]

And ftr, partway through ep 1 I realized it was a crap movie.

That lowered my expectations a lot for the next two (which I still saw in the theater), which didnt help get me past the wooden performances by otherwise good actors and horrifically bad performances by worse ones. And the writing that felt like my 8 yo's journal. And surprisingly static cgr. And ####### jar jar.

Eta. I am fired up for this one, but if its even close to the levels of those last three, I'm out.

Hayden Christensen was the worst part of the first three. I can get over the campiness of jar jar as I somewhat equate that to the campiness of the ewoks.Stoked for the movies but my wife doesn't want us to go opening night because she is worried about movie theater attacks, etc given the recent events that have taken place. Still going but maybe opening weekend vs opening night (which was my plan all along).

You are probably right since he is in multiple movies. Between him, Jake Lloyd, and Jar Jar I can't name a clear worst of the prequels.

 

[KarmaPolice]

How can you not be fired up? But I feel like Floppo, ep1 led to lower expectations for ep2-3 for me. I kind if have a sense of dread. It's just been sort of a downward spiral of storytelling since ep6 really. The keys to eps4-5 were that they engaged in some classic mythology and movie craft which goes way back in time. Instead of carrying forward this best aspect of scifi which allows for some essential human themes in unlimited abstract environments they went off into product marketing driven plots lacking basic structure and extremely boring narrative character exposition (eps1-3) which were totally disconnected and almost entirely unaware of what made eps1-2 some of the best storytelling ever. So now Disney is in charge. It's no wonder they drag us in with the hope that someone will rediscover the magic. If it does disappoint again I will do what I did with 6 & 1-3, compartmentalize it and pretend it never happened.

My excitement level has everything to do with JJ being at the helm for this one. While I don't love all his movies, I usually end up thinking they are well made, look great, and have a bit of heart to them. If Lucas was in charge, I would see it eventually, but there is no way I would have day 1 tickets and be remotely close to being this pumped.

Story aside, if the action scenes look as good as the trailer hints at, I will be very happy.

 

[Rick James]

The Vader origin story is so bad in the prequels, I think it takes away from the badass he truly was.

 

[Capella]

The Vader origin story is so bad in the prequels, I think it takes away from the badass he truly was.

I agree. I just prefer to pretend 1-3 never happened.

 

[cubd8]

The Vader origin story is so bad in the prequels, I think it takes away from the badass he truly was.

You mean, he became Vader because he was insecure of his relationship?

 

[Insein]

And ftr, partway through ep 1 I realized it was a crap movie.

That lowered my expectations a lot for the next two (which I still saw in the theater), which didnt help get me past the wooden performances by otherwise good actors and horrifically bad performances by worse ones. And the writing that felt like my 8 yo's journal. And surprisingly static cgr. And ####### jar jar.

Eta. I am fired up for this one, but if its even close to the levels of those last three, I'm out.

Hayden Christensen was the worst part of the first three. I can get over the campiness of jar jar as I somewhat equate that to the campiness of the ewoks.Stoked for the movies but my wife doesn't want us to go opening night because she is worried about movie theater attacks, etc given the recent events that have taken place. Still going but maybe opening weekend vs opening night (which was my plan all along).

You are probably right since he is in multiple movies. Between him, Jake Lloyd, and Jar Jar I can't name a clear worst of the prequels.

It's definitely Hayden. Jake was a kid. Kid actors are tough. I never had a problem with him because he was a freaking kid. Jar Jar was told to act like a fool. That was the point of his character. Maybe it was meant for something bigger but on the surface, he was comic relief. Not a big deal if he screws up.

Hayden though was Anakin, the focal point of the trilogy. Plus he was 21. No excuse of bring a kid. He had been in the business for 10 years by that point. He could not have ####ed it up worse if he tried. Every line was awful. Every delivery a failure. Yes the love story dialogue was amatuerish but if he had the chops of a Harrison Ford, he could have made it his own. What has Hayden done since? Jumper? That it? Whether he played it bad or was told to play it bad, he was bad on an epic scale.

 

[NewlyRetired]

The Vader origin story is so bad in the prequels, I think it takes away from the badass he truly was.

You mean, he became Vader because he was insecure of his relationship?

I thought it was mother issues? I think the first time we hear the real vader music is when he told Padme how he killed everyone associated with taking his mom.

 

[strykerpks]

There's a historical theater in Milwaukee that just underwent major renovations after being closed for like 15 years. It's their 1 year anniversary of being open again and they are having the 7pm showing on the 17th for free (first 200 people). I wonder when that line starts Started forming.

Probably 2 weeks ago.

Well, they just announced it today

 

[the moops]

There's a historical theater in Milwaukee that just underwent major renovations after being closed for like 15 years. It's their 1 year anniversary of being open again and they are having the 7pm showing on the 17th for free (first 200 people). I wonder when that line starts Started forming.

Probably 2 weeks ago.

Well, they just announced it today

Funny that you posted about it yesterday

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

And ftr, partway through ep 1 I realized it was a crap movie.

That lowered my expectations a lot for the next two (which I still saw in the theater), which didnt help get me past the wooden performances by otherwise good actors and horrifically bad performances by worse ones. And the writing that felt like my 8 yo's journal. And surprisingly static cgr. And ####### jar jar.

Eta. I am fired up for this one, but if its even close to the levels of those last three, I'm out.

Hayden Christensen was the worst part of the first three. I can get over the campiness of jar jar as I somewhat equate that to the campiness of the ewoks.Stoked for the movies but my wife doesn't want us to go opening night because she is worried about movie theater attacks, etc given the recent events that have taken place. Still going but maybe opening weekend vs opening night (which was my plan all along).

You are probably right since he is in multiple movies. Between him, Jake Lloyd, and Jar Jar I can't name a clear worst of the prequels.

Seriously, how do you #### up the casting for Anakin. Whomever was the casting director should be homeless right now.

 

[NewlyRetired]

And ftr, partway through ep 1 I realized it was a crap movie.

That lowered my expectations a lot for the next two (which I still saw in the theater), which didnt help get me past the wooden performances by otherwise good actors and horrifically bad performances by worse ones. And the writing that felt like my 8 yo's journal. And surprisingly static cgr. And ####### jar jar.

Eta. I am fired up for this one, but if its even close to the levels of those last three, I'm out.

Hayden Christensen was the worst part of the first three. I can get over the campiness of jar jar as I somewhat equate that to the campiness of the ewoks.Stoked for the movies but my wife doesn't want us to go opening night because she is worried about movie theater attacks, etc given the recent events that have taken place. Still going but maybe opening weekend vs opening night (which was my plan all along).

You are probably right since he is in multiple movies. Between him, Jake Lloyd, and Jar Jar I can't name a clear worst of the prequels.

Seriously, how do you #### up the casting for Anakin. Whomever was the casting director should be homeless right now.

I am not a basher of the prequels but I think I would rank these as the three best ways (in priority order) in improve them a bit with out massive story changes

1) Anikan's casting for 2 and 3 was awful. I can live with Llyod in 1 since no kid actor is going to pull that off to any real degree but they needed a good actor for the grown up roll in 2 and 3.

2) Lucas to get serious help on dialogue in the script. It is a shame no one was able to stand up to him and tell him the scenes between Padme and Anikan and Anikan and Obi Wan in the first half of 2 were incredibly weak. Lucas had a co writer with him from the Young Indiana Jones series but he must have just been a yes man.

3) Lower Jar Jar's affect on #1. He could still be in it and maybe have slightly more screen time than he got in 2 and 3 but he dominated too much of 1 and as everyone knows, he simply did not work.

He at least added some fun lexicon by being able to complain about other characters from other movies "Jar Jarring" the movie they are in

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Was Jake Lloyd ever in another movie?

 

[shadyridr]

Was Jake Lloyd ever in another movie?

the one with Arnold and Sinbad

 

[FreeBaGeL]

And ftr, partway through ep 1 I realized it was a crap movie.

That lowered my expectations a lot for the next two (which I still saw in the theater), which didnt help get me past the wooden performances by otherwise good actors and horrifically bad performances by worse ones. And the writing that felt like my 8 yo's journal. And surprisingly static cgr. And ####### jar jar.

Eta. I am fired up for this one, but if its even close to the levels of those last three, I'm out.

Hayden Christensen was the worst part of the first three. I can get over the campiness of jar jar as I somewhat equate that to the campiness of the ewoks.Stoked for the movies but my wife doesn't want us to go opening night because she is worried about movie theater attacks, etc given the recent events that have taken place. Still going but maybe opening weekend vs opening night (which was my plan all along).

You are probably right since he is in multiple movies. Between him, Jake Lloyd, and Jar Jar I can't name a clear worst of the prequels.

It's definitely Hayden. Jake was a kid. Kid actors are tough. I never had a problem with him because he was a freaking kid. Jar Jar was told to act like a fool. That was the point of his character. Maybe it was meant for something bigger but on the surface, he was comic relief. Not a big deal if he screws up.

Hayden though was Anakin, the focal point of the trilogy. Plus he was 21. No excuse of bring a kid. He had been in the business for 10 years by that point. He could not have ####ed it up worse if he tried. Every line was awful. Every delivery a failure. Yes the love story dialogue was amatuerish but if he had the chops of a Harrison Ford, he could have made it his own. What has Hayden done since? Jumper? That it? Whether he played it bad or was told to play it bad, he was bad on an epic scale.

Could he?

Sam Jackson is a pretty good actor and he was utterly awful in the Star Wars prequels. I'm sure Hayden is not great actor but to be fair some of those lines just can't be acted.

 

[GoFishTN]

Was Jake Lloyd ever in another movie?

the one with Arnold and Sinbad

That was three years earlier. He was apparently in something called Madison in 2005.

 

[KarmaPolice]

And ftr, partway through ep 1 I realized it was a crap movie.

That lowered my expectations a lot for the next two (which I still saw in the theater), which didnt help get me past the wooden performances by otherwise good actors and horrifically bad performances by worse ones. And the writing that felt like my 8 yo's journal. And surprisingly static cgr. And ####### jar jar.

Eta. I am fired up for this one, but if its even close to the levels of those last three, I'm out.

Hayden Christensen was the worst part of the first three. I can get over the campiness of jar jar as I somewhat equate that to the campiness of the ewoks.Stoked for the movies but my wife doesn't want us to go opening night because she is worried about movie theater attacks, etc given the recent events that have taken place. Still going but maybe opening weekend vs opening night (which was my plan all along).

You are probably right since he is in multiple movies. Between him, Jake Lloyd, and Jar Jar I can't name a clear worst of the prequels.

It's definitely Hayden. Jake was a kid. Kid actors are tough. I never had a problem with him because he was a freaking kid. Jar Jar was told to act like a fool. That was the point of his character. Maybe it was meant for something bigger but on the surface, he was comic relief. Not a big deal if he screws up. Hayden though was Anakin, the focal point of the trilogy. Plus he was 21. No excuse of bring a kid. He had been in the business for 10 years by that point. He could not have ####ed it up worse if he tried. Every line was awful. Every delivery a failure. Yes the love story dialogue was amatuerish but if he had the chops of a Harrison Ford, he could have made it his own. What has Hayden done since? Jumper? That it? Whether he played it bad or was told to play it bad, he was bad on an epic scale.

I have seen Hayden act in other movies.

I think basically what we are saying is that Lucas is all to blame. All the wooden acting seems to be played by people who have acted well in other movies. Long story short is that Lucas has 0 talent for directing actors and no ear for dialogue.

 

[GoFishTN]

And ftr, partway through ep 1 I realized it was a crap movie.

That lowered my expectations a lot for the next two (which I still saw in the theater), which didnt help get me past the wooden performances by otherwise good actors and horrifically bad performances by worse ones. And the writing that felt like my 8 yo's journal. And surprisingly static cgr. And ####### jar jar.

Eta. I am fired up for this one, but if its even close to the levels of those last three, I'm out.

Hayden Christensen was the worst part of the first three. I can get over the campiness of jar jar as I somewhat equate that to the campiness of the ewoks.Stoked for the movies but my wife doesn't want us to go opening night because she is worried about movie theater attacks, etc given the recent events that have taken place. Still going but maybe opening weekend vs opening night (which was my plan all along).

You are probably right since he is in multiple movies. Between him, Jake Lloyd, and Jar Jar I can't name a clear worst of the prequels.

It's definitely Hayden. Jake was a kid. Kid actors are tough. I never had a problem with him because he was a freaking kid. Jar Jar was told to act like a fool. That was the point of his character. Maybe it was meant for something bigger but on the surface, he was comic relief. Not a big deal if he screws up.Hayden though was Anakin, the focal point of the trilogy. Plus he was 21. No excuse of bring a kid. He had been in the business for 10 years by that point. He could not have ####ed it up worse if he tried. Every line was awful. Every delivery a failure. Yes the love story dialogue was amatuerish but if he had the chops of a Harrison Ford, he could have made it his own. What has Hayden done since? Jumper? That it? Whether he played it bad or was told to play it bad, he was bad on an epic scale.

I have seen Hayden act in other movies.

I think basically what we are saying is that Lucas is all to blame. All the wooden acting seems to be played by people who have acted well in other movies. Long story short is that Lucas has 0 talent for directing actors and no ear for dialogue.

I don't know if it's zero talent as much as zero patience. From what I remember hearing during the prequels filming everything was one or two takes and on to the next scene.

 

[El Floppo]

I'm obviously against the majority here- but young Anniken was horrible horrible. look at the kid who did Sixth Sense. or any kid on a TV show. or any other movie. there's writing stuff off because he's a kid... and then there's casting THAT kid in one of the biggest movie series ever. terrible.

but yeah- older Anniken was horrible without any excuses. I saw the same actor in a movie about the New Republic writer who falsified his info... still pretty cringe-worthy, but nowhere near the whiny wooden monstrosity he threw up there in SW.

seems to me whoever directed those (was it Lucas?) just had no idea how to direct actors. there's the comedy series on Netflix now where the Indian dude gets a role on a sci-fi film... and is asking the director for notes after a scene in front of a green screen- director says, #### it- it'll be post-produced into something stupid anyways, no point to try it again.

 

[GoFishTN]

I'm obviously against the majority here- but young Anniken was horrible horrible. look at the kid who did Sixth Sense. or any kid on a TV show. or any other movie. there's writing stuff off because he's a kid... and then there's casting THAT kid in one of the biggest movie series ever. terrible.

but yeah- older Anniken was horrible without any excuses. I saw the same actor in a movie about the New Republic writer who falsified his info... still pretty cringe-worthy, but nowhere near the whiny wooden monstrosity he threw up there in SW.

seems to me whoever directed those (was it Lucas?) just had no idea how to direct actors. there's the comedy series on Netflix now where the Indian dude gets a role on a sci-fi film... and is asking the director for notes after a scene in front of a green screen- director says, #### it- it'll be post-produced into something stupid anyways, no point to try it again.

Anakin.

 

[tommyboy]

The Vader origin story is so bad in the prequels, I think it takes away from the badass he truly was.

I agree. I just prefer to pretend 1-3 never happened.

3 was good. The story, not the acting. 1 was an abortion. 2 was meh

 

[Politician Spock]

The Vader origin story is so bad in the prequels, I think it takes away from the badass he truly was.

You mean, he became Vader because he was insecure of his relationship?

I thought it was mother issues? I think the first time we hear the real vader music is when he told Padme how he killed everyone associated with taking his mom.

He should have been a high school science teacher who got cancer.

 

[Rick James]

I get what Lucas was trying to do w/ Anakin. You can't just have a young boy in Ep 1 and Darth Vader in Ep 3 without a transition. Lucas went for "teenage angst" and it fell flat. Bottom line. IMO it would have worked so much better if, in Ep 2 and 3, Anakin was cocky. He and Obi Wan were famous Jedi Knights during the Clone Wars. It would make sense for Anakin to be cocky, and IMO it would have played much better.

regarding Ep 3.....this movie gets more praise than it deserves. I would say it's the best of the prequels, but the dialogue and acting are just as terrible as the previous two movies (not including Ewan McGregor, who was fantastic). Even at the climax of the movie, the 1v1 fight in the lava, Anakin is a whiny, petulant teenager. Ugh. Just thinking of that scene before everything kicks off makes my skin crawl. YOU WILL NOT TAKE HER FROM ME. So lame.

 

[Politician Spock]

I get what Lucas was trying to do w/ Anakin. You can't just have a young boy in Ep 1 and Darth Vader in Ep 3 without a transition.

Why did Lucas have to start with Vader as a young boy?

 

[FUBAR]

The Vader origin story is so bad in the prequels, I think it takes away from the badass he truly was.

I agree. I just prefer to pretend 1-3 never happened.

3 was good. The story, not the acting. 1 was an abortion. 2 was meh

yes, though I must admit I liked the scene where Ben checks out the clones. totally CGI, but I liked the visuals.