1000% this. Guys in the bathroom after the movie were geeking out hard. People left my local theater buzzing about the movie.Damn that #### was great. I dunno where it ranks, don't really care. Just loved it.
Well that makes sense. It's all goodOk. I've been avoiding the thread until I'd seen it.
I do appreciate the latest title change, though.
Yea felt like they were just forcing finn's own storyline. And that's fine, he's a good character, woulda just better doing something else. Didn't help that I thought the codebreaker sucked too. Just none of that did anything for me.I agree with Capella about the scene with Finn and Rose. That was a total waste of time, and I told my family that after it was over. They could have just cut that whole plot line.
That was Benicio Del Toro, right? I just kept picturing him in The Usual Suspects. His stutter cracked me up.Yea felt like they were just forcing finn's own storyline. And that's fine, he's a good character, woulda just better doing something else. Didn't help that I thought the codebreaker sucked too. Just none of that did anything for me.
Sure was.That was Benicio Del Toro, right? I just kept picturing him in The Usual Suspects. His stutter cracked me up.
Yea they really cleared the deck didn't they? Set up for a Rey-Kylo and Finn/Poe-First Order conclusion.Too many people died. I was wondering who would be left for the third movie.
I know! Snoke was freaking powerful, I want to know more about him!Yea they really cleared the deck didn't they? Set up for a Rey-Kylo and Finn/Poe-First Order conclusion.
All that time people spent thinking about Snoke's backstory and then WHAMMO
I think there will be a time jump and "General Leia died" in the opening crawl.I was surprised that they didn't kill Leia. They're going to have to explain what happened to her in the third movie, it seems they could have filmed something after Carrie Fisher died to work into the plot. Now it's just going to be weird in Episode 9.
No way, not even close.Terrible.
Mark Hammill was actually good and should get more work. But that might have been worse than prequels. Nothing making me want to see the next one.
I think maybe there will be more backstory on him in a future tv series or something. Like where he rose to power.I know! Snoke was freaking powerful, I want to know more about him!
Just like Darth Maul, they wrote him out too soon. But I understand that Kylo wanted to be Supreme Leader so it makes sense. Just seems like a waste.
Oh COME ONTerrible.
Mark Hammill was actually good and should get more work. But that might have been worse than prequels. Nothing making me want to see the next one.
That's probably what they're working toward, but I don't know if the public interest would be there.I think maybe there will be more backstory on him in a future tv series or something. Like where he rose to power.
There are worse things the writer of a space western could do than crib the plot from one of the best Battlestar Gallactica episodes, imo.They literally chased after a ship almost the whole movie.
That's a very good point.Kylo was right; kill the past. That is what this movie did.
Long enough for all the other plotlines to play out. It just made no sense. Some cool scenes? Sure. Force Awakens was much better -- made you want to see what happens next. I don't care about episode ix now.There are worse things the writer of a space western could do than crib the plot from one of the best Battlestar Gallactica episodes, imo.
Oh man, I couldn't disagree more. I think this was much better than Force Awakens. Not the best Star Wars film, but nowhere near the worst.Long enough for all the other plotlines to play out. It just made no sense. Some cool scenes? Sure. Force Awakens was much better -- made you want to see what happens next. I don't care about episode ix now.
That's the $$$ scene where Leia should have gone out with a bang imo, rather than that random purple-haired Admiral whose only job was to show Po he had more to learn before he was ready to lead.Snoke's ship was really cool. I remember reading a while ago that Vader's Super Star Destroyer Executor bankrupted an entire solar system to build. This thing was easily 10 times bigger than that.
My youngest loved, loved, LOVED the scene where the Admiral goes into light speed to destroy it. He said that was his favorite scene from any Star Wars movie, ever. I don't agree, but that was the highlight of his night.
Regarding the bolded, I expected Luke to use the Force to bring the X-Wing back to the shore, just like Yoda did in Empire. When I saw the X-Wing underwater, that's where my thought immediately went.That's the $$$ scene where Leia should have gone out with a bang imo, rather than that random purple-haired Admiral whose only job was to show Po he had more to learn before he was ready to lead.
But obviously Carrie Fisher was in way too many important scenes after that happened for them to cut the movie to pieces, put it back together, and still make it work.
I do think it would have been a better movie had it gone down that way...and then you don't have to have the stupid Force illusionary dice fade away after the twist is revealed that Luke isn't really there (I never bought it anyways because I didn't think the writers would credit the audience as being smart enough to remember that Luke's X-Wing (and way off the planet) was shown submerged at the beginning of the movie). But they obviously really wanted one last scene on screen between Luke and Leia when they filmed it originally, and a scene where Leia basically turns the Resistance over to Po and nods approvingly at what he's learned.
I hit on that a bit:I can’t believe you guys think Kylo told Rey the truth about her parents. Junk dealer parents? As strong as she is in the force? I ain’t buying it.
On the other hand, her flashback in TFA did show a ship flying away when she was "left", and Kylo was trying to manipulate her. So a twist there is still technically possible, although I agree they just wanted to cut off that line of questioning and not make her story all about that.
There was a throwaway line from Kylo that she stole Snoke's personal escape ship.How did Rey get from Snoke’s throne room back onto the Falcon?
I get what you're saying, but with the timing of her death I think they basically have to. It was too late to change this movie and will be too recent when the next one comes out to make a big deal about it. I think they've already said they won't be CGI-ing her into the next one. She got a pretty extensive farewell in that closeup scene between her and Luke imo, especially if you read into what he's saying.They absolutely CANNOT kill Leia off screen. If they do that in the opening crawl that would be most the egregious writing in cinema history.
Me too. And I'm sure it's there so the audience could plausibly explain how he got from point A to point B at the end, before the twist is revealed. But while watching the movie I was skeptical they'd trust the audience to remember that and not complain about plotholes, so I was kinda on guard that it was a trick somehow. The physical interactions he has with people at the end threw me off again though and they ended up getting me.Regarding the bolded, I expected Luke to use the Force to bring the X-Wing back to the shore, just like Yoda did in Empire. When I saw the X-Wing underwater, that's where my thought immediately went.
No, not her daughter. She played Winter in the most recent season of American Horror Story. It took me a while to place where'd I'd seen her before.Also--was the blond rebel getting lots of little chunks of screentime Carrie Fisher's daughter?
On Rey’s parents; if it really doesn’t matter, why does he make her ask to see her parents when she’s down under the island and her face appears? (Like Luke’s face in the Vader mask on Dagobah) Just to jerk us around? Nah, it’s important IMO.I hit on that a bit:
There was a throwaway line from Kylo that she stole Snoke's personal escape ship.
I get what you're saying, but with the timing of her death I think they basically have to. It was too late to change this movie and will be too recent when the next one comes out to make a big deal about it. I think they've already said they won't be CGI-ing her into the next one. She got a pretty extensive farewell in that closeup scene between her and Luke imo, especially if you read into what he's saying.
Also--was the blond rebel getting lots of little chunks of screentime Carrie Fisher's daughter?
Sure it was. Billie Lourde is Carrie Fisher’s daughter.No, not her daughter. She played Winter in the most recent season of American Horror Story. It took me a while to place where'd I'd seen her before.
Yeah, they totally got me, too. I thought he was really there. But with hindsight you see that he never actually interacted with Kylo. Light sabers never met, Luke only dodged that kind of thing. I thought that was well done.Me too. And I'm sure it's there so the audience could plausibly explain how he got from point A to point B at the end, before the twist is revealed. But while watching the movie I was skeptical they'd trust the audience to remember that and not complain about plotholes, so I was kinda on guard that it was a trick somehow. The physical interactions he has with people at the end threw me off again though and they ended up getting me.
Really? I had no idea. I stand corrected.Sure it was. Billie Lourde is Carrie Fisher’s daughter.