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Not if this means **** Jauron is the new head coach and given a multi-year deal as such.No offense to the Mooch, but this is the best news I have had all day.
Agreed. Jauron's never been anything but a below-average coordinator, and he was worse as a HC. Given that he has a job at all only because he's Mooch's buddy, he's got some stones demanding any kind of guarantee from the Lions.
26,28,11,27,24Not if this means **** Jauron is the new head coach and given a multi-year deal as such.No offense to the Mooch, but this is the best news I have had all day.
Awwww how cute. Yeah 4 super bowl rings- let's make him the president of the country. Ok Joffer we can just sit here and pretend that MM is a GREAT GM because he won 4 super bowls. Stay hot junior...
Have you watched the Lions play this year? Some of the worst coaching in the history of the NFL.Actually by definition Mooch IS the scapegoat. Mooch did so much with so little in SF, yet in Detroit he fails miserably?I am not going to say Mooch was GREAT it is all Millens fault, its definately a nice mix of both. But Millen has the worst record in the NFL as a GM...Mooch is not a scapegoat. He was terrible.Can't win a war with rubber bullets. No matter who is pulling the trigger.Millen has failed. PERIOD. No one can say otherwise, and Mooch, like him or not, is the scape goat.WHAT!?!?!? The GM doesn't call the ####ing play.GDB the armchair GMs on this boardDitka and Eric Allen on ESPN are making some excellent points about Matt Millen's role in putting a team together to compete in conference. Emphasis has not been placed on running the ball and stopping the run. The fault for the team's failure to address those facets of the game falls squarely on the GM.
Would love to see Millen get axed by years end.
Thats a FACT.
Again I am not going to say he lit the NFL on fire but 4-7 is not even CLOSE to the worst in the NFL.
Please explain to me what moves Millen has made that are so terrible? I look at a team with Harrington, KJ, BMW, ROY, Rogers and a good young defense and see a team that is only a couple pieces away from being a contender.A coach like Parcells would not be dumb enough to work for Matt Millen
I like Mooch, but he was clueless.I assume you have watched every Lions game this year. I will also assume you have watched the Lions with a blind fold on and plugs in your ears....for that is my only explanation of your recent posts.Have you watched the Lions play this year? Some of the worst coaching in the history of the NFL.Actually by definition Mooch IS the scapegoat. Mooch did so much with so little in SF, yet in Detroit he fails miserably?I am not going to say Mooch was GREAT it is all Millens fault, its definately a nice mix of both. But Millen has the worst record in the NFL as a GM...Mooch is not a scapegoat. He was terrible.Can't win a war with rubber bullets. No matter who is pulling the trigger.Millen has failed. PERIOD. No one can say otherwise, and Mooch, like him or not, is the scape goat.WHAT!?!?!? The GM doesn't call the ####ing play.GDB the armchair GMs on this boardDitka and Eric Allen on ESPN are making some excellent points about Matt Millen's role in putting a team together to compete in conference. Emphasis has not been placed on running the ball and stopping the run. The fault for the team's failure to address those facets of the game falls squarely on the GM.
Would love to see Millen get axed by years end.
Thats a FACT.
Try DOM CAPERS blowing a huge lead to a rookie QB who never threw a pass in the NFL before.
That is one of the worst coaching jobs in history. Time to scale back and get back to reality.
Thanks.
K Jones 3.3 ypc on 159 atts- Kevin Barlow type of numbers and Barlow is on the worst offense in the NFL. All I am saying is Kevin Jones just did not quite live up to the hype- did he?
Agreed. This team has vastly more talent than to be 4-7, which is exactly why Mooch has been fired.
well geez3 drafted linemen and one free agent...he's done everything humanly possible to fix the line!
Yep quality stuff indeed my friend. Long season in Detroit? Hope u r a Piston fan. If u want to come up here defending KJ with some of these cute football guy one liners I can hang out and eat u alive. No problem there...Quality stuff here.
And right about where the Bears have been ranked--including this year--since he left.End of story.26,28,11,27,24what are those?Not if this means **** Jauron is the new head coach and given a multi-year deal as such.No offense to the Mooch, but this is the best news I have had all day.
where Jauron coached teams ranked in poins scored when he was head coach...
Ok I didnt realize you had the Locker room report for the Lions... since you know this as fact, thats great.I like Mooch, but he was clueless.I assume you have watched every Lions game this year. I will also assume you have watched the Lions with a blind fold on and plugs in your ears....for that is my only explanation of your recent posts.Have you watched the Lions play this year? Some of the worst coaching in the history of the NFL.Actually by definition Mooch IS the scapegoat. Mooch did so much with so little in SF, yet in Detroit he fails miserably?I am not going to say Mooch was GREAT it is all Millens fault, its definately a nice mix of both. But Millen has the worst record in the NFL as a GM...Mooch is not a scapegoat. He was terrible.Can't win a war with rubber bullets. No matter who is pulling the trigger.Millen has failed. PERIOD. No one can say otherwise, and Mooch, like him or not, is the scape goat.WHAT!?!?!? The GM doesn't call the ####ing play.GDB the armchair GMs on this boardDitka and Eric Allen on ESPN are making some excellent points about Matt Millen's role in putting a team together to compete in conference. Emphasis has not been placed on running the ball and stopping the run. The fault for the team's failure to address those facets of the game falls squarely on the GM.
Would love to see Millen get axed by years end.
Thats a FACT.
Try DOM CAPERS blowing a huge lead to a rookie QB who never threw a pass in the NFL before.
That is one of the worst coaching jobs in history. Time to scale back and get back to reality.
Thanks.
He lost his entire team! (Except Garcia)
LOL....what are you, 12?Their line sucks as does the QB play. Ever notice how when a team has a struggling QB, defenses stack the line to take away the run?Yep quality stuff indeed my friend. Long season in Detroit? Hope u r a Piston fan. If u want to come up here defending KJ with some of these cute football guy one liners I can hang out and eat u alive. No problem there...
which still does not show that DJ has ever been able to coach an offense.And right about where the Bears have been ranked--including this year--since he left.End of story.26,28,11,27,24what are those?Not if this means **** Jauron is the new head coach and given a multi-year deal as such.No offense to the Mooch, but this is the best news I have had all day.
where Jauron coached teams ranked in poins scored when he was head coach...
Temporary move to appease your fan base. Did you see how many people started leaving Ford Field on Thursday? There are still a few home games on the schedule, which means there are beers; sodas; foam fingers and jerseys to be sold. Someone had to go...RIGHT NOW...to put a bandaid on the financial piece. Hey, folks, this is your GM manager speaking. We, ownership and I , are aware there is a problem and we are working to resolve the manner. The players quit on the coach. It does not get any worse. Failure to do something on behalf of ownership and or management would perhaps cause more damage to an already strained relationship with the team. Mooch had to go. Guys, we in the front office know things are bad but hang in there with us. We'll get the right guy for the job. Play nice with **** between now and Christmas and see you in the spring.
Can’t comment on Buffalo for I have not watched them at all this year. I have watched, read, listened and evaluated this circus all year. It’s a known fact around Detroit that Mooch lost the team. It is also well known that he did an absolute terrible job with the Detroit offense and play calling. Some offensive Guru!He was hard headed and refused to game plan with his talent in mind-which is coaching 101.Ok I didnt realize you had the Locker room report for the Lions... since you know this as fact, thats great.I like Mooch, but he was clueless.I assume you have watched every Lions game this year. I will also assume you have watched the Lions with a blind fold on and plugs in your ears....for that is my only explanation of your recent posts.Have you watched the Lions play this year? Some of the worst coaching in the history of the NFL.Actually by definition Mooch IS the scapegoat. Mooch did so much with so little in SF, yet in Detroit he fails miserably?I am not going to say Mooch was GREAT it is all Millens fault, its definately a nice mix of both. But Millen has the worst record in the NFL as a GM...Mooch is not a scapegoat. He was terrible.Can't win a war with rubber bullets. No matter who is pulling the trigger.Millen has failed. PERIOD. No one can say otherwise, and Mooch, like him or not, is the scape goat.WHAT!?!?!? The GM doesn't call the ####ing play.GDB the armchair GMs on this boardDitka and Eric Allen on ESPN are making some excellent points about Matt Millen's role in putting a team together to compete in conference. Emphasis has not been placed on running the ball and stopping the run. The fault for the team's failure to address those facets of the game falls squarely on the GM.
Would love to see Millen get axed by years end.
Thats a FACT.
Try DOM CAPERS blowing a huge lead to a rookie QB who never threw a pass in the NFL before.
That is one of the worst coaching jobs in history. Time to scale back and get back to reality.
Thanks.
He lost his entire team! (Except Garcia)
Have not watched all the lions games... but I also watched San Diego do a HECK of a worse job on Buffalo and no one is saying Mularky lost his team....
So are you willing to give the Buffalo locker room reports too? So we know if Mularky lost his team yet or not???
Are you a Bear fan? **** led them to a 13-3 record his second year with the Bears. And Mr. Lovie's current record is 13-14 as a Bear coach. In fact, the Bears will have to run the table to come close to achieving what Jauron did his first two years with the Bears.But the Bears are obviously so much better off with Lovie who will OBVIOUSLY be a much better coach than Jauron
Please explain to me what moves Millen has made that are so terrible? I look at a team with Harrington, KJ, BMW, ROY, Rogers and a good young defense and see a team that is only a couple pieces away from being a contender.A coach like Parcells would not be dumb enough to work for Matt Millen
When you have to mention Joey Harrington as a positive, you're in trouble
Nice- 12 years old and now we are comparing Kevin Jones to Curtis Martin? I can one up u and u did a fine job here yourself- the OL line sucks, the QB sucks, the GM sucks, the RB sucks, the receivers suck but it is all Mooch's fault. Stick around at the bottom of the pile with the Packers and the Texans my friend. This team is a mess and Mr. 4 Super Bowl rings is running the circus....LOL....what are you, 12?Their line sucks as does the QB play. Ever notice how when a team has a struggling QB, defenses stack the line to take away the run?Yep quality stuff indeed my friend. Long season in Detroit? Hope u r a Piston fan. If u want to come up here defending KJ with some of these cute football guy one liners I can hang out and eat u alive. No problem there...
I suppose since Martin is having a bad year, he sucks too?
Well, wait...what's the story again? Are you saying Jauron is not a mediocre coach because the Bears haven't improved since he left? I don't follow that logic.For fun, here are the rankings of the defensive squads Jauron has coached (in points allowed; almost across the board, they rank worse using yards allowed):And right about where the Bears have been ranked--including this year--since he left.End of story.26,28,11,27,24what are those?Not if this means **** Jauron is the new head coach and given a multi-year deal as such.No offense to the Mooch, but this is the best news I have had all day.
where Jauron coached teams ranked in poins scored when he was head coach...
It shoud be noted that Millen wanted Jammer and his hand was forced by Ford Jr. Billy wanted Joey.Please explain to me what moves Millen has made that are so terrible? I look at a team with Harrington, KJ, BMW, ROY, Rogers and a good young defense and see a team that is only a couple pieces away from being a contender.A coach like Parcells would not be dumb enough to work for Matt Millen
In Rogers, I'm going to assume you mean S. Rogers and not C. Rogers, because he's been a failure on multiple levels
"Good young defense" is a relative term to be sure. Detroit is 16th in points allowed and 14th in yards allowed despite playing offensive juggernauts like Chicago [twice], Baltimore, Tampa Bay and Cleveland.
Are you a Bear fan? **** led them to a 13-3 record his second year with the Bears. And Mr. Lovie's current record is 13-14 as a Bear coach. In fact, the Bears will have to run the table to come close to achieving what Jauron did his first two years with the Bears.But the Bears are obviously so much better off with Lovie who will OBVIOUSLY be a much better coach than Jauron
Not a Bear fan, just an objective observer. Convenient that you mention Jauron's 13-3 record in his 2nd year...I'm not defending Millen here. I'm questioning how you can make your claims about KJ.He did lead the league in rushing in the 2nd half of 2004. Can't argue that.Nice- 12 years old and now we are comparing Kevin Jones to Curtis Martin? I can one up u and u did a fine job here yourself- the OL line sucks, the QB sucks, the GM sucks, the RB sucks, the receivers suck but it is all Mooch's fault. Stick around at the bottom of the pile with the Packers and the Texans my friend. This team is a mess and Mr. 4 Super Bowl rings is running the circus....LOL....what are you, 12?Their line sucks as does the QB play. Ever notice how when a team has a struggling QB, defenses stack the line to take away the run?Yep quality stuff indeed my friend. Long season in Detroit? Hope u r a Piston fan. If u want to come up here defending KJ with some of these cute football guy one liners I can hang out and eat u alive. No problem there...
I suppose since Martin is having a bad year, he sucks too?
I said this earlier. They need a new owner. I gave up years ago when I started believing they needed a new owner. He is clueless. As additional support in my opinion, anyone that makes a car that can be respelled "DORF" has to go.
Because he's done such a bang up job reinvigorating that Ravens offense
Fassel is a "good" NFL coach, he's most definitely not great. If the Lions are going to grab someone new, why not go for greatness potentially?Agreed.But the problem I have with going young is that means rebuilding again.Because he's done such a bang up job reinvigorating that Ravens offense
Any RB can be dominating with a solid OL and a good QB. Look at the Bears- solid OL and a rookie QB. They are running very well.Comparing Martin w Jones is not going to be accurate at all. The Jets have suffered a load of injuries this year but they were in contention last year. Martin is a possible HOF player and he plays hurt and has more durability than KJ. KJ can learn a few things from CM.I'm not defending Millen here. I'm questioning how you can make your claims about KJ.He did lead the league in rushing in the 2nd half of 2004. Can't argue that.Nice- 12 years old and now we are comparing Kevin Jones to Curtis Martin? I can one up u and u did a fine job here yourself- the OL line sucks, the QB sucks, the GM sucks, the RB sucks, the receivers suck but it is all Mooch's fault. Stick around at the bottom of the pile with the Packers and the Texans my friend. This team is a mess and Mr. 4 Super Bowl rings is running the circus....LOL....what are you, 12?Their line sucks as does the QB play. Ever notice how when a team has a struggling QB, defenses stack the line to take away the run?Yep quality stuff indeed my friend. Long season in Detroit? Hope u r a Piston fan. If u want to come up here defending KJ with some of these cute football guy one liners I can hang out and eat u alive. No problem there...
I suppose since Martin is having a bad year, he sucks too?
Their OL does suck, as does the QB play. So to say he is a tinkerbell is silly.
It's hard for him to do very well when he has less than 30 carries in the last 3 games.
My reference to Martin was this, you are taking this years stats for KJ and making a statement about a career. You have no clue how good he's going to be. With a solid QB and good OL, he could be dominant.
I'm not saying Harrington is the greatest ever, but I think he has the talent to be successful in the right offense. He deserves a lot of blame, but Garcia was only marginally better despite Harrington facing the leagues' top pass defenses to start the season (Packers, Bucs, Bears and Ravens).It shoud be noted that Millen wanted Jammer and his hand was forced by Ford Jr. Billy wanted Joey.Please explain to me what moves Millen has made that are so terrible? I look at a team with Harrington, KJ, BMW, ROY, Rogers and a good young defense and see a team that is only a couple pieces away from being a contender.A coach like Parcells would not be dumb enough to work for Matt Millen
In Rogers, I'm going to assume you mean S. Rogers and not C. Rogers, because he's been a failure on multiple levels
"Good young defense" is a relative term to be sure. Detroit is 16th in points allowed and 14th in yards allowed despite playing offensive juggernauts like Chicago [twice], Baltimore, Tampa Bay and Cleveland.
Here's his injury history - do you know something we don't?Any RB can be dominating with a solid OL and a good QB. Look at the Bears- solid OL and a rookie QB. They are running very well.Comparing Martin w Jones is not going to be accurate at all. The Jets have suffered a load of injuries this year but they were in contention last year. Martin is a possible HOF player and he plays hurt and has more durability than KJ. KJ can learn a few things from CM.I'm not defending Millen here. I'm questioning how you can make your claims about KJ.He did lead the league in rushing in the 2nd half of 2004. Can't argue that.Nice- 12 years old and now we are comparing Kevin Jones to Curtis Martin? I can one up u and u did a fine job here yourself- the OL line sucks, the QB sucks, the GM sucks, the RB sucks, the receivers suck but it is all Mooch's fault. Stick around at the bottom of the pile with the Packers and the Texans my friend. This team is a mess and Mr. 4 Super Bowl rings is running the circus....LOL....what are you, 12?Their line sucks as does the QB play. Ever notice how when a team has a struggling QB, defenses stack the line to take away the run?Yep quality stuff indeed my friend. Long season in Detroit? Hope u r a Piston fan. If u want to come up here defending KJ with some of these cute football guy one liners I can hang out and eat u alive. No problem there...
I suppose since Martin is having a bad year, he sucks too?
Their OL does suck, as does the QB play. So to say he is a tinkerbell is silly.
It's hard for him to do very well when he has less than 30 carries in the last 3 games.
My reference to Martin was this, you are taking this years stats for KJ and making a statement about a career. You have no clue how good he's going to be. With a solid QB and good OL, he could be dominant.
The Lions? They have been struggling and it has been quite some time since they won a playoff game. All I am saying is he is not the RB I would hang my hat on and MM is not the GM to get it done.
KJ is not getting carries because he is always getting hurt. Correct me if I am wrong but he has played in 11 games this year and he must have been hurt in at least 6 of these games. He might have looked good at the end of last year but he is not the type of back that a team will hang their offense on if he continues to drop in the middle of the second quarter...
What component of Harrington's career leads you to believe he's equipped to be a solid NFL starter? And don't you think all the talk of his inability to handle the huddle and not fitting into the locker room should be filed under: Where there's smoke, there's fire?I'm not saying Harrington is the greatest ever, but I think he has the talent to be successful in the right offense. He deserves a lot of blame, but Garcia was only marginally better despite Harrington facing the leagues' top pass defenses to start the season (Packers, Bucs, Bears and Ravens).It shoud be noted that Millen wanted Jammer and his hand was forced by Ford Jr. Billy wanted Joey.Please explain to me what moves Millen has made that are so terrible? I look at a team with Harrington, KJ, BMW, ROY, Rogers and a good young defense and see a team that is only a couple pieces away from being a contender.A coach like Parcells would not be dumb enough to work for Matt Millen
In Rogers, I'm going to assume you mean S. Rogers and not C. Rogers, because he's been a failure on multiple levels
"Good young defense" is a relative term to be sure. Detroit is 16th in points allowed and 14th in yards allowed despite playing offensive juggernauts like Chicago [twice], Baltimore, Tampa Bay and Cleveland.
Garcia, while at one time a deserved Pro-Bowler, is d-o-n-e.Harrington does not have talent.
