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Since it's nearly 100% fact that Millen stays, who becomes the next coach?

This team is primed to at least compete, so a head coach with experience and an iron fist would be ideal........like a Parcells.

Note: I am NOT saying they have a shot at Parcells, just the need for someone like him.
Anyone but a friggin' WCO coach.
so who would fit this description and is available?
 
Ditka and Eric Allen on ESPN are making some excellent points about Matt Millen's role in putting a team together to compete in conference.  Emphasis has not been placed on running the ball and stopping the run.  The fault for the team's failure to address those facets of the game falls squarely on the GM.   :thumbdown:
WHAT!?!?!? The GM doesn't call the ####ing play.GDB the armchair GMs on this board :no:
Can't win a war with rubber bullets. No matter who is pulling the trigger.Millen has failed. PERIOD. No one can say otherwise, and Mooch, like him or not, is the scape goat.

Would love to see Millen get axed by years end.
Not going to happenn.Side note: KJ, Roy Williams, Bly, Lehman, Rogers, Pollard....all good picks or FA under Millen. THough I don't think he's perfect, I think he is doing ok and steadily improving.
Rogers a good pick? LOL :lmao:
Yeah you know, one of the best young DL in the game? If not THE best.
 
Ditka and Eric Allen on ESPN are making some excellent points about Matt Millen's role in putting a team together to compete in conference.  Emphasis has not been placed on running the ball and stopping the run.  The fault for the team's failure to address those facets of the game falls squarely on the GM.   :thumbdown:
WHAT!?!?!? The GM doesn't call the ####ing play.GDB the armchair GMs on this board :no:
Can't win a war with rubber bullets. No matter who is pulling the trigger.Millen has failed. PERIOD. No one can say otherwise, and Mooch, like him or not, is the scape goat.

Would love to see Millen get axed by years end.
Not going to happenn.Side note: KJ, Roy Williams, Bly, Lehman, Rogers, Pollard....all good picks or FA under Millen. THough I don't think he's perfect, I think he is doing ok and steadily improving.
Rogers a good pick? LOL :lmao:
rogers was considered a can't miss lock. any team in the league would have loved to draft him. you can't pick on millen for that pick.
 
Offensive Line coach and Tight Ends coach also fired according to John Clayton. The latter is interesting since Pollard is the leading receiver right now. :lmao:

Ditka and Eric Allen on ESPN are making some excellent points about Matt Millen's role in putting a team together to compete in conference. Emphasis has not been placed on running the ball and stopping the run. The fault for the team's failure to address those facets of the game falls squarely on the GM. :thumbdown:
well....Ditka and Allen are wrong. Ditka is just pissed because one of his buddies got canned. but anyone who's been paying attention realizes that he is one terrible coach. And i mean TERRIBLE. I've never seen anything more confounding or inexplicable as his playcalling. And that has ZERO to do with the GM. The coach calls the plays and employs the scheme, etc. Millen has brought in plenty of talent, plenty. I don't see how it's his fault that Mariucci managed to last this long as a complete and total fraud. For those #####ing about drafts, you all seem to forget, or ignore, that his other first day picks have been predominantly defense and Oline: Raiola, Backus, Lehman, Bailey, Redding, Edwards, Shaun Rogers, etc....the D picks have worked out well (ROgers was a STEAL), but the Oline picks all seem to get worse every year. Backus was pretty good his first year, he has sucked ### this year. That's not Millen's fault....and that's why the Oline coach was fired too.

This is a happy day for the Lions....I bet they finish 7-9.

 
Here's to hoping Jauron not only gets interim, but also the perm title.

Ron Rivera to take the defensive coordinator next year? I'm down with that. Mike Singletary as def coord next year? Sure.

I think that millen should have gone first, but the Fords Fjorded that one by extending the mustache for 5 years. Oh well, I guess this is the next best thing.
Just out of curiosity, why would you want Jauron as your permanent head coach?
Because I'm a ####### lions fan and don't know any better. :cry: I think that Jauron has shown improvement in his area and he is about the only lion coach that can say that. That goes back several years too.

He has head coaching experience, is defensive minded, and he is already there.

Aside from that, I think that the defense has responded to him, and hopefully, the rest of the team could too. Its no secret around Detroit that the players have not respected the head coach for quite a while. This goes back to the end of the Ross days. Although Jauron isn't a coughlin type coach, he is more no-nonsense than Mooch or Marty Mumblemouth were.

Just my two cents. If I knew more than that, I'd probably be paid to write for fantasy football site or something....
Why not just hire Rivera as the Head Coach?
 
Since it's nearly 100% fact that Millen stays, who becomes the next coach?

This team is primed to at least compete, so a head coach with experience and an iron fist would be ideal........like a Parcells.

Note: I am NOT saying they have a shot at Parcells, just the need for someone like him.
Anyone but a friggin' WCO coach.
so who would fit this description and is available?
Scott Linehan
 
Ditka and Eric Allen on ESPN are making some excellent points about Matt Millen's role in putting a team together to compete in conference.  Emphasis has not been placed on running the ball and stopping the run.  The fault for the team's failure to address those facets of the game falls squarely on the GM.   :thumbdown:
WHAT!?!?!? The GM doesn't call the ####ing play.GDB the armchair GMs on this board :no:
Can't win a war with rubber bullets. No matter who is pulling the trigger.Millen has failed. PERIOD. No one can say otherwise, and Mooch, like him or not, is the scape goat.

Would love to see Millen get axed by years end.
Not going to happenn.Side note: KJ, Roy Williams, Bly, Lehman, Rogers, Pollard....all good picks or FA under Millen. THough I don't think he's perfect, I think he is doing ok and steadily improving.
Rogers a good pick? LOL :lmao: I would also like to add to that, that Mike Williams was a bad pick. He's a big slow WR, and the Lions obviously could have used an offensive lineman instead.
I think he meant SHAUN Rogers.I do agree with you on the WCO thing. Millen's woody for grabbing the lowest branches of the Bill Walsh tree has to subside. They must either bring in a proven winner, or a good assistant who intends to run a scheme that 2/3 of the league hasn't already figured out how to stop.

As for removing the "interim" from Jauron's title, please don't make me cry. That would be a very Lion-like move, and he is (IMHO) an atrocious coach.

 
Ditka and Eric Allen on ESPN are making some excellent points about Matt Millen's role in putting a team together to compete in conference.  Emphasis has not been placed on running the ball and stopping the run.  The fault for the team's failure to address those facets of the game falls squarely on the GM.   :thumbdown:
WHAT!?!?!? The GM doesn't call the ####ing play.GDB the armchair GMs on this board :no:
Can't win a war with rubber bullets. No matter who is pulling the trigger.Millen has failed. PERIOD. No one can say otherwise, and Mooch, like him or not, is the scape goat.

Would love to see Millen get axed by years end.
funny how steel turned to rubber in just 11 games
LOL!STEEL? Who the heck ever said the Lions would of been anything BUT mediocre? I sure the heck never said anything different.

I didn't think their defense would play as well as it has (not to reflect on the Falcons game of course) so I give him that. But besides Roy, the first round picks have been AT BEST ok. No matter who said what about some guy being a no miss.

I had the Lions at 3rd or 4th in their division... so don't project your own predictions upon the whole board... This team had some problems coming in this season, and with Minnesota stacking the defense and Favre and Chicago getting healthy I didn't think they stood a chance.

 
Ditka and Eric Allen on ESPN are making some excellent points about Matt Millen's role in putting a team together to compete in conference.  Emphasis has not been placed on running the ball and stopping the run.  The fault for the team's failure to address those facets of the game falls squarely on the GM.   :thumbdown:
WHAT!?!?!? The GM doesn't call the ####ing play.GDB the armchair GMs on this board :no:
Can't win a war with rubber bullets. No matter who is pulling the trigger.Millen has failed. PERIOD. No one can say otherwise, and Mooch, like him or not, is the scape goat.

Would love to see Millen get axed by years end.
Not going to happenn.Side note: KJ, Roy Williams, Bly, Lehman, Rogers, Pollard....all good picks or FA under Millen. THough I don't think he's perfect, I think he is doing ok and steadily improving.
Rogers a good pick? LOL :lmao:
Yeah you know, one of the best young DL in the game? If not THE best.
Sorry, but I thought you meant Charles Rogers.
 
Since it's nearly 100% fact that Millen stays, who becomes the next coach?

This team is primed to at least compete, so a head coach with experience and an iron fist would be ideal........like a Parcells.

Note: I am NOT saying they have a shot at Parcells, just the need for someone like him.
Anyone but a friggin' WCO coach.
John L. Smith is latest rumor ....
Makes sense, think he would be a good fit. They need a coach like Smith at this point
 
I would also like to add to that, that Mike Williams was a bad pick. He's a big slow WR, and the Lions obviously could have used an offensive lineman instead.
I don't see BMW as a bad pick--especially when you consider that the Lions knew about Rogers' drug problems by that point. I think BMW is more likely to become a special player than the OT's that went around that time.Like most Lions fans, I was hoping for Derrick Johnson, but BMW was a decent pick.

 
Ditka and Eric Allen on ESPN are making some excellent points about Matt Millen's role in putting a team together to compete in conference. Emphasis has not been placed on running the ball and stopping the run. The fault for the team's failure to address those facets of the game falls squarely on the GM. :thumbdown:
WHAT!?!?!? The GM doesn't call the ####ing play.GDB the armchair GMs on this board :no:
Can't win a war with rubber bullets. No matter who is pulling the trigger.Millen has failed. PERIOD. No one can say otherwise, and Mooch, like him or not, is the scape goat.

Would love to see Millen get axed by years end.
Mooch is not a scapegoat. He was terrible.
 
Since it's nearly 100% fact that Millen stays, who becomes the next coach?

This team is primed to at least compete, so a head coach with experience and an iron fist would be ideal........like a Parcells.

Note: I am NOT saying they have a shot at Parcells, just the need for someone like him.
Anyone but a friggin' WCO coach.
John L. Smith is latest rumor ....
Makes sense, think he would be a good fit. They need a coach like Smith at this point
Man, I hope that's sarcasm. Unless you think they've been a little too disciplined this season.
 
Ditka and Eric Allen on ESPN are making some excellent points about Matt Millen's role in putting a team together to compete in conference.  Emphasis has not been placed on running the ball and stopping the run.  The fault for the team's failure to address those facets of the game falls squarely on the GM.   :thumbdown:
WHAT!?!?!? The GM doesn't call the ####ing play.GDB the armchair GMs on this board :no:
Can't win a war with rubber bullets. No matter who is pulling the trigger.Millen has failed. PERIOD. No one can say otherwise, and Mooch, like him or not, is the scape goat.

Would love to see Millen get axed by years end.
Not going to happenn.Side note: KJ, Roy Williams, Bly, Lehman, Rogers, Pollard....all good picks or FA under Millen. THough I don't think he's perfect, I think he is doing ok and steadily improving.
Rogers a good pick? LOL :lmao:
Yeah you know, one of the best young DL in the game? If not THE best.
Sorry, but I thought you meant Charles Rogers.
No problem. Shaun was probably Millens best pick.
 
Like most Lions fans, I was hoping for Derrick Johnson, but BMW was a decent pick.
only if they make a TE out of him. Last I heard, he weighed 240+ pounds.
 
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Ditka and Eric Allen on ESPN are making some excellent points about Matt Millen's role in putting a team together to compete in conference.  Emphasis has not been placed on running the ball and stopping the run.  The fault for the team's failure to address those facets of the game falls squarely on the GM.  :thumbdown:
WHAT!?!?!? The GM doesn't call the ####ing play.GDB the armchair GMs on this board :no:
Can't win a war with rubber bullets. No matter who is pulling the trigger.Millen has failed. PERIOD. No one can say otherwise, and Mooch, like him or not, is the scape goat.

Would love to see Millen get axed by years end.
Mooch is not a scapegoat. He was terrible.
Actually by definition Mooch IS the scapegoat. Mooch did so much with so little in SF, yet in Detroit he fails miserably?I am not going to say Mooch was GREAT it is all Millens fault, its definately a nice mix of both. But Millen has the worst record in the NFL as a GM...

Thats a FACT.

 
Since it's nearly 100% fact that Millen stays, who becomes the next coach?

This team is primed to at least compete, so a head coach with experience and an iron fist would be ideal........like a Parcells.

Note: I am NOT saying they have a shot at Parcells, just the need for someone like him.
Anyone but a friggin' WCO coach.
John L. Smith is latest rumor ....
Makes sense, think he would be a good fit. They need a coach like Smith at this point
.. and the spread offense is no WCO. Plus, he is on the outs with MSU already.
 
Anyone but a friggin' WCO coach.
John L. Smith is latest rumor ....
Makes sense, think he would be a good fit. They need a coach like Smith at this point
:X How many failed products of MSU do the Lions need to take before people give up?1) Rogers2) Bobby Williams3) John L Smithmaybe Smoker can be our QB next year.Seriously, Smith could barely win at Louisville, and he hasn't done much better at MSU.
 
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Since it's nearly 100% fact that Millen stays, who becomes the next coach?

This team is primed to at least compete, so a head coach with experience and an iron fist would be ideal........like a Parcells.

Note: I am NOT saying they have a shot at Parcells, just the need for someone like him.
Anyone but a friggin' WCO coach.
so who would fit this description and is available?
Scott Linehan
interesting. you think he'd bail on saban after only one year?
 
Since it's nearly 100% fact that Millen stays, who becomes the next coach?

This team is primed to at least compete, so a head coach with experience and an iron fist would be ideal........like a Parcells.

Note: I am NOT saying they have a shot at Parcells, just the need for someone like him.
Anyone but a friggin' WCO coach.
Mad Mike Martz partnered up with Jauron? :popcorn:
 
WDFN is reporting the Lions are having a hard time getting Jauron to agree to be the interim head coach. He is said to be wanting at least 1-2 years gaurunteed on his contract. So the Lions basically fired Mooch with no back up plan.

 
Anyone but a friggin' WCO coach.
John L. Smith is latest rumor ....
Makes sense, think he would be a good fit. They need a coach like Smith at this point
:X How many failed products of MSU do the Lions need to take before people give up?

1) Rogers

2) Bobby Williams

3) John L Smith

maybe Smoker can be our QB next year.

Seriously, Smith could barely win at Louisville, and he hasn't done much better at MSU.
I'd have more confidence in Smoker than I do in Harrington, S.
 
I would also like to add to that, that Mike Williams was a bad pick. He's a big slow WR, and the Lions obviously could have used an offensive lineman instead.
I don't see BMW as a bad pick--especially when you consider that the Lions knew about Rogers' drug problems by that point. I think BMW is more likely to become a special player than the OT's that went around that time.Like most Lions fans, I was hoping for Derrick Johnson, but BMW was a decent pick.
:goodposting: People have REALLY short memories. Can someone tell me exactly which Olineman was worth the 10th pick in the draft? There were no Gallerys or Fergusons this year...and no one had any clue that Backus and Raiola would regress.....they signed the biggest FA available in DeMulling, and he's sucked too.....again: that's why the OLine coach was fired. they were supposed to have progressed into a serviceable unit, not regress into one of the worst in the league.

 
Since it's nearly 100% fact that Millen stays, who becomes the next coach?

This team is primed to at least compete, so a head coach with experience and an iron fist would be ideal........like a Parcells.

Note: I am NOT saying they have a shot at Parcells, just the need for someone like him.
Anyone but a friggin' WCO coach.
so who would fit this description and is available?
Scott Linehan
interesting. you think he'd bail on saban after only one year?
Why not? Saban calls all the shots down there. He's a former asst. You think he's going to say stay an asst and not take your opportunity as a HC when that's what Saban's been working toward his whole life too.If anything he says stay away from Detroit.

 
WDFN is reporting the Lions are having a hard time getting Jauron to agree to be the interim head coach. He is said to be wanting at least 1-2 years gaurunteed on his contract. So the Lions basically fired Mooch with no back up plan.
:lmao: wtf do they need a backup plan for? start working on the draft, guys.

 
Since it's nearly 100% fact that Millen stays, who becomes the next coach?

This team is primed to at least compete, so a head coach with experience and an iron fist would be ideal........like a Parcells.

Note: I am NOT saying they have a shot at Parcells, just the need for someone like him.
Anyone but a friggin' WCO coach.
John L. Smith is latest rumor ....
Makes sense, think he would be a good fit. They need a coach like Smith at this point
Dear god no. His playcalling is worse that Mooch's. :X :X :X
 
WDFN is reporting the Lions are having a hard time getting Jauron to agree to be the interim head coach. He is said to be wanting at least 1-2 years gaurunteed on his contract. So the Lions basically fired Mooch with no back up plan.
no back up plan! Really!?!?! I find that hard to believe ..... :mellow:
 
WDFN is reporting the Lions are having a hard time getting Jauron to agree to be the interim head coach. He is said to be wanting at least 1-2 years gaurunteed on his contract. So the Lions basically fired Mooch with no back up plan.
Or this is how they're negotiating. They had to make this move. Hell, have Millen coach the end of the year.
 
They both should go, but I agree, Millen should be fired, and he should've been fired a couple of years ago.

I agree with this 100%. Matt Millen is a joke as far as what he has brought to the table. I was not impressed with his hiring in the first place. A loud mouth sports analyst does not make a good or even a decent GM...
:goodposting:
 
Ditka and Eric Allen on ESPN are making some excellent points about Matt Millen's role in putting a team together to compete in conference. Emphasis has not been placed on running the ball and stopping the run. The fault for the team's failure to address those facets of the game falls squarely on the GM. :thumbdown:
WHAT!?!?!? The GM doesn't call the ####ing play.GDB the armchair GMs on this board :no:
Can't win a war with rubber bullets. No matter who is pulling the trigger.Millen has failed. PERIOD. No one can say otherwise, and Mooch, like him or not, is the scape goat.

Would love to see Millen get axed by years end.
Mooch is not a scapegoat. He was terrible.
Actually by definition Mooch IS the scapegoat. Mooch did so much with so little in SF, yet in Detroit he fails miserably?I am not going to say Mooch was GREAT it is all Millens fault, its definately a nice mix of both. But Millen has the worst record in the NFL as a GM...

Thats a FACT.
No, that's an opinion.
 
Offensive line coach Pat Morris and tight end coach Andy Sugarman have been fired as well. Millen was actually given the green light Thursday evening. He waited until the Monday morning conference. After your "Stud" back K Jones goes 4/32 and 37/157 over the last 4 games there's definitely some issues there. A good back sould be getting in the neighborhood of 18-25 carries a game. Put Ted Tollner's head on the block as well. Lets see, Mooch is first... followed by Charles "Smokey" Rogers, Joey Harrington and lastly Garcia. House CLEANED!

 
Since it's nearly 100% fact that Millen stays, who becomes the next coach?

This team is primed to at least compete, so a head coach with experience and an iron fist would be ideal........like a Parcells.

Note: I am NOT saying they have a shot at Parcells, just the need for someone like him.
Anyone but a friggin' WCO coach.
John L. Smith is latest rumor ....
Mike Martz :thumbup:
 
Harrington sux but so has everyone else in that system in Detroit. I would renegotiate the contract for him, trade Rogers and bring in someone who has a rep for discpline. Who fits that bill... Ditka???? hahaha

 
If Millen has half a brain [which is up for debate], he'll name someone else interim coach so that he can have an unencumbered candidate search this offseason. The last thing the Lions need is to agree to a multi-year deal with Jauron without seeing if he's the best available fit.

 
Honestly, what I would do:Fire MoochFire MillenHire Ron Wolf as a consultant. Put him in charge if interviewing and hiring a good, young up and coming GM.Hire a coach based on Wolf and GM's liking.Renegotiate Joey, and take it from there. Personally, I would hate to see Rogers go. He has all-pro talent and world class speed. Something the Lions need.

 
First-I like Mooch. And think he is a very good head coach. He didn't suddenly become stupid when he left a succesful run in SF....Second-Matt Millen must have pics of someone in the Ford family with farm animals, because he is a waste of GM space....I hated the Lions goin in this year. And here's why:You get hired as the new coach, look over the team and state:we need:O'linemenD' LinemenLB'sDB's (you have inherited a QB and 1 injury prone WR, both with talent, so you cannot complain as HC about that)The GM then goes out and drafts:another WRanother WR1LB-Teddy LehmanNo DL's of significanceNo DBsNO OL.Your team sucks, but hey. You have a great RB and and 3 potentialy deadly WR's right?You fail.Because the team sucks, assembled by the GM.And you get fired.Sometimes, I do not like the NFL.....

 
All this talk that the Lions have no talent is nonsense. They have a future stud RB, one of the top skilled WRs in the NFL, a # of other solid to above average WRs, a great 3rd down back, a great blocking fullback, some solid O-linemen. They have some solid to good secondary players (Bly, Kennedy, etc). They have good, quick LBs, they have a GREAT D-line. Harrington may or may not suck but the offense hasnt done much with Garcia either. IMO the schemes and coaching for all the units have pretty much failed the team this year. I think Millen has built a solid squad that with a good coach could have competed for a playoff spot this year. Your telling me they don't have more talent than Minnesota? And Minnesota is competing for a playoff spot even WITH that idiot Tice. Therefore, Mariucci is probably a worse coach than Tice.
:lmao: I seriously spit out my soda laughing at this.
 
There is some talk that the Lions will be going with Greg Olsen, the QB coach. He took over the playcalling last year when they had the little offensive burst at the end of the year, and the Saints wanted to talk to him about coaching in the offseason and the Lions would not let them. He is considered on eo f the upcoming new faces in the NFL coaching ranks.

 
No offense to the Mooch, but this is the best news I have had all day. :thumbup: :pickle:
Not if this means **** Jauron is the new head coach and given a multi-year deal as such.
Hey, don't rain on the fun here. :angry: Your right, Jauron long term would be just as bad most likely. I don't see it happening though. I think they will use him for the time being and find a replacement this off-season. I own Jones in a dynasty league so thats really all that matters to me at this point... nest year. It would be nice to get a strong playoff push from him, but at this point I'm not counting on it.

 
Here is all you need to know about Detroit:

Millen hired both Mariucci and his predecessor, Marty Mornhinweg, and drafted or signed most of the players currently on the Lions -- and Detroit is an NFL-worst 20-55 since 2001. Millen, a former NFL linebacker and TV analyst was given a five-year extension before this season.
As long as Millen is running this ship they will be in trouble. Millen canned Mooch to cover his own butt.
 
First-I like Mooch. And think he is a very good head coach. He didn't suddenly become stupid when he left a succesful run in SF....

Second-Matt Millen must have pics of someone in the Ford family with farm animals, because he is a waste of GM space....

I hated the Lions goin in this year. And here's why:

You get hired as the new coach, look over the team and state:

we need:

O'linemen

D' Linemen

LB's

DB's

(you have inherited a QB and 1 injury prone WR, both with talent, so you cannot complain as HC about that)

The GM then goes out and drafts:

another WR

another WR

1LB-Teddy Lehman

No DL's of significance

No DBs

NO OL.

Your team sucks, but hey. You have a great RB and and 3 potentialy deadly WR's right?

You fail.

Because the team sucks, assembled by the GM.

And you get fired.

Sometimes, I do not like the NFL.....
since 2002 Millen has drafted three Lineman, the same number of first round WRs he has drafted.Millen is brain dead

 
They fired the wrong guy.
I think so as well, Matt Millen is the problem not the coaching staff.
They both should go, but I agree, Millen should be fired, and he should've been fired a couple of years ago.
My opposition to firing Millen is two-fold.#1 I am a Vikings fan and really enjoy the way he keeps the Lions consistently inconsistent. :clap:

#2 I DO NOT want him to return to broadcasting games.

:yucky:

 
Ditka and Eric Allen on ESPN are making some excellent points about Matt Millen's role in putting a team together to compete in conference. Emphasis has not been placed on running the ball and stopping the run. The fault for the team's failure to address those facets of the game falls squarely on the GM. :thumbdown:
WHAT!?!?!? The GM doesn't call the ####ing play.GDB the armchair GMs on this board :no:
Can't win a war with rubber bullets. No matter who is pulling the trigger.Millen has failed. PERIOD. No one can say otherwise, and Mooch, like him or not, is the scape goat.

Would love to see Millen get axed by years end.
Mooch is not a scapegoat. He was terrible.
Actually by definition Mooch IS the scapegoat. Mooch did so much with so little in SF, yet in Detroit he fails miserably?I am not going to say Mooch was GREAT it is all Millens fault, its definately a nice mix of both. But Millen has the worst record in the NFL as a GM...

Thats a FACT.
Have you watched the Lions play this year? Some of the worst coaching in the history of the NFL.
 

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