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- Thread starter DaddyFatSacks
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Kevin Jones gets some value just in time for the playoffs
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
They fired the wrong guy.
DaddyFatSacks
Footballguy
I think so as well, Matt Millen is the problem not the coaching staff.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
For Lions fans' sake, **** Jauron better not lose the "interim" tag at any point.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
They both should go, but I agree, Millen should be fired, and he should've been fired a couple of years ago.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Mooch is a fine example that you should consider who the coach is before drafting a player. I ignored that when drafting Kevin Jones in a startup dynasty league this year, and it cost me. It's obvious he has a woody for the RBBC philosophy (see Hearst / Barlow previously), and Shawn Bryson in general.
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pretender
Footballguy
who should they have fired? Ultimately winning and losing especially with the talent the team has - is coaching IMHO. Mooch is the head coach! I think the Packers should fire Sherman - instead of always getting rid of the coordinators. Same sort of situation, only Detroit has drafted better talent than the Packers.
ILoveMyLions
Footballguy
This is a start in my opinion. There need to be some serious changes in this offense. He clearly had to go due to the lack of effort in recent weeks. He lost the team and lost his job as a result.
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
Of course...right before the Viking game. Tice owned Mariucci!! Watch them fire up and win one for the interim guy!! 
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
They should fire the guy that brings in the talent, of which this team has very little.Expecting the head coach to polish a turd is unfair, IMO.
Power Monster
The Midnight Stalker
They both should go, but I agree, Millen should be fired, and he should've been fired a couple of years ago.I agree with this 100%. Matt Millen is a joke as far as what he has brought to the table. I was not impressed with his hiring in the first place. A loud mouth sports analyst does not make a good or even a decent GM...
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I guarantee you that there's at least a half dozen (if not more) guys on this board that would be a better GM for the Lions than Millen has been.Now that would be a great reality show. Sort of like The Apprentice. The winner gets to be an assistant GM and actually give input into personnel decisions.
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I would agree that Mooch is not a very good coach.
DaddyFatSacks
Footballguy
For some reason that wouldn't surprise me. I'm sure the players would like his "players" coach type attitude.Well the Vikings just found there new head couch.
I'm a bit sad on this one. I really liked Mooch. Sure, some of the blame should fall on him, but he can't help injuries, and players that on paper looked good, but are way underperforming.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Sure it was. Lions fans just had their poop colored glasses on and couldn't recognize it.
JAA
Footballguy
Wheelhouse
Footballguy
Excuse my ignorance of not knowing - but where is Jauron coming from? Isn't he the Def. Coord at CIN or was it PIT? What, if any effect will it have on the team he's leaving?
shadyridr
Footballguy
All this talk that the Lions have no talent is nonsense. They have a future stud RB, one of the top skilled WRs in the NFL, a # of other solid to above average WRs, a great 3rd down back, a great blocking fullback, some solid O-linemen. They have some solid to good secondary players (Bly, Kennedy, etc). They have good, quick LBs, they have a GREAT D-line. Harrington may or may not suck but the offense hasnt done much with Garcia either. IMO the schemes and coaching for all the units have pretty much failed the team this year. I think Millen has built a solid squad that with a good coach could have competed for a playoff spot this year. Your telling me they don't have more talent than Minnesota? And Minnesota is competing for a playoff spot even WITH that idiot Tice. Therefore, Mariucci is probably a worse coach than Tice.
el-gato-grande
Footballguy
Offensive Line coach and Tight Ends coach also fired according to John Clayton. The latter is interesting since Pollard is the leading receiver right now. 
Ditka and Eric Allen on ESPN are making some excellent points about Matt Millen's role in putting a team together to compete in conference. Emphasis has not been placed on running the ball and stopping the run. The fault for the team's failure to address those facets of the game falls squarely on the GM. 
Ditka and Eric Allen on ESPN are making some excellent points about Matt Millen's role in putting a team together to compete in conference. Emphasis has not been placed on running the ball and stopping the run. The fault for the team's failure to address those facets of the game falls squarely on the GM. 
joffer
Footballguy
WHAT!?!?!? The GM doesn't call the ####ing play.GDB the armchair GMs on this boardDitka and Eric Allen on ESPN are making some excellent points about Matt Millen's role in putting a team together to compete in conference. Emphasis has not been placed on running the ball and stopping the run. The fault for the team's failure to address those facets of the game falls squarely on the GM.
For those of you not from the Detroit area, Millen isn't going away.Ford Sr LOVE Millen. It was just reported that Millen may actually GAIN power from this. Mooch was a horrible coach. A HORRIBLE coach. And this team does have talent. Plenty of the players Millen drafted were sought after by more than a few teams. Since he hired Marty and signed Hakim and Schroeder to be starting WR's, I think he has done a good job. Those signings were horrible.
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Brian Sinclair
Footballguy
It goes even further than Mooch or Millen. It is the owner. The Fords need to give it up. I gave up on this team along time ago due to the ownership of the team. The don't know how to hire a GM.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Ditka and Allen? Where's Irvin?Offensive Line coach and Tight Ends coach also fired according to John Clayton. The latter is interesting since Pollard is the leading receiver right now.
Ditka and Eric Allen on ESPN are making some excellent points about Matt Millen's role in putting a team together to compete in conference. Emphasis has not been placed on running the ball and stopping the run. The fault for the team's failure to address those facets of the game falls squarely on the GM.
Sorry, couldn't resist....I agree. Millen should've been gone years ago. They should be drafting O-Line and running the ball more. Don't put so much pressure on Joey to win the game. Let the running game and solid D win the games. But since the line blows, they can't run. Can't run, can't control the clock. Can't control the clock, can't keep the D off the field. Can't keep the D off the field and the D gets tired and banged up. D gets tired and banged up and the Lions have another losing season.
It's a shame. I truly believe they are a couple of non-skill position players away from really contending....
joffer
Footballguy
The GM is responsible for placing the talent on the field. Talent that many football fans loved before the season started. The talent currently on the Lions is more than enough to be a mediocre team that competes, but this team is pathetic. Millen may be to blame for the Lions not having playoff-caliber talent, but the the embarrassment on Thanksgiving Day is the coach, not the GM.
grrreatlvr
Footballguy
Here's to hoping Jauron not only gets interim, but also the perm title. Ron Rivera to take the defensive coordinator next year? I'm down with that. Mike Singletary as def coord next year? Sure.I think that millen should have gone first, but the Fords Fjorded that one by extending the mustache for 5 years. Oh well, I guess this is the next best thing.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Just out of curiosity, why would you want Jauron as your permanent head coach?
Gargoylez
Footballguy
Can't win a war with rubber bullets. No matter who is pulling the trigger.Millen has failed. PERIOD. No one can say otherwise, and Mooch, like him or not, is the scape goat.WHAT!?!?!? The GM doesn't call the ####ing play.GDB the armchair GMs on this boardDitka and Eric Allen on ESPN are making some excellent points about Matt Millen's role in putting a team together to compete in conference. Emphasis has not been placed on running the ball and stopping the run. The fault for the team's failure to address those facets of the game falls squarely on the GM.
Would love to see Millen get axed by years end.
Since it's nearly 100% fact that Millen stays, who becomes the next coach?This team is primed to at least compete, so a head coach with experience and an iron fist would be ideal........like a Parcells.Note: I am NOT saying they have a shot at Parcells, just the need for someone like him.
grrreatlvr
Footballguy
Because I'm a ####### lions fan and don't know any better.
I think that Jauron has shown improvement in his area and he is about the only lion coach that can say that. That goes back several years too.He has head coaching experience, is defensive minded, and he is already there.
Aside from that, I think that the defense has responded to him, and hopefully, the rest of the team could too. Its no secret around Detroit that the players have not respected the head coach for quite a while. This goes back to the end of the Ross days. Although Jauron isn't a coughlin type coach, he is more no-nonsense than Mooch or Marty Mumblemouth were.
Just my two cents. If I knew more than that, I'd probably be paid to write for fantasy football site or something....
Not going to happenn.Side note: KJ, Roy Williams, Bly, Lehman, Rogers, Pollard....all good picks or FA under Millen. THough I don't think he's perfect, I think he is doing ok and steadily improving.Can't win a war with rubber bullets. No matter who is pulling the trigger.Millen has failed. PERIOD. No one can say otherwise, and Mooch, like him or not, is the scape goat.WHAT!?!?!? The GM doesn't call the ####ing play.GDB the armchair GMs on this boardDitka and Eric Allen on ESPN are making some excellent points about Matt Millen's role in putting a team together to compete in conference. Emphasis has not been placed on running the ball and stopping the run. The fault for the team's failure to address those facets of the game falls squarely on the GM.
Would love to see Millen get axed by years end.
joffer
Footballguy
funny how steel turned to rubber in just 11 gamesCan't win a war with rubber bullets. No matter who is pulling the trigger.Millen has failed. PERIOD. No one can say otherwise, and Mooch, like him or not, is the scape goat.WHAT!?!?!? The GM doesn't call the ####ing play.GDB the armchair GMs on this boardDitka and Eric Allen on ESPN are making some excellent points about Matt Millen's role in putting a team together to compete in conference. Emphasis has not been placed on running the ball and stopping the run. The fault for the team's failure to address those facets of the game falls squarely on the GM.
Would love to see Millen get axed by years end.
grrreatlvr
Footballguy
John L. Smith is latest rumor ....
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Rogers a good pick? LOLNot going to happenn.Side note: KJ, Roy Williams, Bly, Lehman, Rogers, Pollard....all good picks or FA under Millen. THough I don't think he's perfect, I think he is doing ok and steadily improving.Can't win a war with rubber bullets. No matter who is pulling the trigger.Millen has failed. PERIOD. No one can say otherwise, and Mooch, like him or not, is the scape goat.WHAT!?!?!? The GM doesn't call the ####ing play.GDB the armchair GMs on this boardDitka and Eric Allen on ESPN are making some excellent points about Matt Millen's role in putting a team together to compete in conference. Emphasis has not been placed on running the ball and stopping the run. The fault for the team's failure to address those facets of the game falls squarely on the GM.
Would love to see Millen get axed by years end.
I would also like to add to that, that Mike Williams was a bad pick. He's a big slow WR, and the Lions obviously could have used an offensive lineman instead.
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