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siffoin said:
So this is the Warren Buffet in me talking (because I'm too damn old and don't understand Social Media Stocks so I don't own them).

Only 40% of the global population has internet accress - so that's about 3 Billion internet users in the world. Facebook says there are 1.7 billion individual active monthly users.  Which means that nearly 60% of people with internet access use $FB every month.  Now I don't know nuthin' about nuthin' but I don't have a Facebook page, have never had a Facebook page, have never logged into Facebook.  And I personally know a lot of people like me. So 1.7 billion people actively logging into Facebook?  HORSE HOCKEY!

So to me those numbers seem fishy.  On top of that - I'm confident that the revenue they generate (though real) is fleeting.  The day is coming when companies realize that advertising on Social Media platforms does not generate business.  LIKES DOES NOT EQUAL CUSTOMERS.  LIKES DOES NOT ADD TO THE BOTTOM LINE.

The ads are inundating too. So much so that I'd guess human psychology begins to ignore them...then disdain them.  I see an ad on some stupid page I intentionally won't click.  

On top of that there is just so much ad revenue to go around.  Facebook; Meetup, Yelp; Find Me #### Me (that's going to be my new startup Unicorn)....  The dominoes are stacked on a cliffs edge way too far...way too fast.  When the time is right - someone's going to make a fortune shorting these to where they belong- in the same room as Pixelon and Lycos (you know your first choice these days when it comes to internet video streaming and web search).

Now back to my Coca-Cola and a nibble on a See's Candy.
:lol: At the bolded

As always, I appreciate your input, GB. I hope you are well and miss you around here.

My thought is MEET has been getting some press lately so my hope is to get an initial surge where I can sell some of my position and get "free" shares and see how it plays out.

In regards to FB, I think a lot of people check it on a daily basis but don't post.  I also think a lot of people don't admit that they check it every day.  I'm betting Zukerberg more than anything here. 

 
Great news for MZOR today. Thankful I got even heavier Friday. 

Had to give up on NEO. Took a grand+ loss but need the capital 

 
My two pennies.

Everyone should own FB, at the minimum it's just digital Kodak with the 30+ crowd wrapped up. The younger crowd uses snapchat but they still have their FB accounts that they still use for family. Zuckerberg is smarter than everyone else in the room and I refuse to miss out.

 
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My two pennies.

Everyone should own FB, at the minimum it's just digital Kodak with the 30+ crowd wrapped up. The younger crowd uses snapchat but they still have their FB accounts that they still use for family. Zuckerberg is smarter than everyone else in the room and I refuse to miss out.
He is smarter than everyone until he isn't.

 
Biotech stocks have been getting absolutely murdered.  I think it will pop after the election regardless of who gets elected.  Long IBB, BIB, LABU, VRX, ENDP, GILD. 

 
AAPL is closing in on my $119 sell point.  I think it will hit before earnings on the 24th but regardless I think I should sell before earnings.  I figure even if it does spike on earnings, it will still likely drift back down in time, and it seems the last few earning reports have spurned negative movement.  I can't wait out another move to the low 100s.  Who else is holding Apple and what are your plans? 

 
@St. Louis Bob, I'm sure you don't want to hear it, but a lot of technical indicators are screaming sell on CMG right now. 

If it closes below $390 it'll be below every single MA there is, could create accelerated selling.

Just a heads up, GL.

If it bounces to $419 I'm looking to short it.

 
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@St. Louis Bob, I'm sure you don't want to hear it, but a lot of technical indicators are screaming sell on CMG right now. 

If it closes below $390 it'll be below every single MA there is, could create accelerated selling.

Just a heads up, GL.

If it bounces to $419 I'm looking to short it.
Restaurants are the whipping boy of the day. I'm holding through earnings and see what happens. 

 
AT&T and Time Warner looks to be a done deal.

I'm hoping to pick up some GILD, trying to get it in the 60s.

 
The movement during their last earnings was nuts. 

Down $20, up $30, down $20, up $15, down $10...

Chopfest 
Everybody is down on CMG so they should be good.  AMZN, GOOGL,AAPL have been on a good run so not too optimistic.  Also, everyone, EVERYONE, is expecting AMZN to crush everything.  It's going to get slaughtered if they don't.

 
I was sweating FCX earnings on Tuesday so much that I decided to bail out this afternoon. I have no sense of what they are going to report. Wouldn't be surprised to see a 10% swing in either direction tomorrow.

 
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Was just coming in here to ask you about the drop in Cobalt.  What's up?
F'ers are going to flood the market with more shares.  Neat.

 

VANCOUVER, Oct. 20, 2016 /PRNewswire/ - eCobalt Solutions Inc. (TSX: ECS; OTCQB: ECSIF) (the "Company" or "eCobalt") announces that it has filed and obtained a receipt for a preliminary short form base shelf prospectus with the Securities Commissions in each of the provinces of Canada except Quebec.

Upon a final short form base shelf prospectus (the "Shelf Prospectus") becoming effective, these filings will, subject to securities regulatory requirements, allow the Company to make offerings of up to $100,000,000 of common shares, preference shares, debt securities, warrants, subscription receipts, units, or any combination of such securities (all of the foregoing, collectively, the "Securities") during the 25-month period that the Shelf Prospectus is effective.  The Securities may be offered separately or together, in amounts, at prices and on terms to be determined based on market conditions at the time of sale and set forth in an accompanying shelf prospectus supplement ("Prospectus Supplement") and, subject to applicable regulations, may include 'at-the-market' transactions, private placements, public offerings or strategic investments.

Unless otherwise specified in a Prospectus Supplement, the net proceeds from the sale of Securities for cash will be used to complete the development of the Idaho Cobalt Project for commercial production and general corporate purposes including working capital, funding ongoing operation and/or capital requirements, reducing the level of indebtedness outstanding from time to time, discretionary capital programs, exploration and development of additional properties or interests (direct or indirect) therein, and potential future acquisitions.  Each Prospectus Supplement will contain specific information, if any, concerning the use of proceeds from that sale of Securities.

"The filing of this Shelf Prospectus provides flexibility for future securities based financings and this will enhance the Company's access to the capital markets.  This allows the Company to take advantage of opportunities as they arise to increase value for all of our stakeholders", commented Paul Farquharson, President & CEO of eCobalt.  He continued, "This will offer management the ability to act quickly on all aspects of business development as we move the Idaho Cobalt Project through feasibility and ultimately, production."

 
It's not down THAT much but have to agree.  Looks like a lower entry point is coming.  Out at $396.50 for a loss of $355.95.

AAPL  meh

PNRA!!! :towelwave:
Its a sinking ship right now, they're way too expensive for what they're going through... $350 isn't a far stretch.

I can't imagine why anyone would be buying right now.

Every bounce is a chance to sell.

I had an order in at $410, I had 10 shares filled and had to chase down :kicksrock:

 
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Its a sinking ship right now, they're way too expensive for what they're going through... $350 isn't a far stretch.

I can't imagine why anyone would be buying right now.

Every bounce is a chance to sell.

I had an order in at $410, I had 10 shares filled and had to chase down :kicksrock:
Technically I think $355 is a good target.   I have no position.  I saw $CMG has something like 2100 stores.  Back in the mid-90's I lived in Denver right between store #1 (by Denver University) and #2 on Alameda.  This is when they were just a cool new burrito place for yuppies, and I loved it - was addicted to it.   Amazed they have that many restaurants.  I hope they can turn it around.

We're in the gambling stage of a bull market.  Maybe if I can muster up the courage I'll post some thoughts.

 
Technically I think $355 is a good target.   I have no position.  I saw $CMG has something like 2100 stores.  Back in the mid-90's I lived in Denver right between store #1 (by Denver University) and #2 on Alameda.  This is when they were just a cool new burrito place for yuppies, and I loved it - was addicted to it.   Amazed they have that many restaurants.  I hope they can turn it around.

We're in the gambling stage of a bull market.  Maybe if I can muster up the courage I'll post some thoughts.
My real hope is they could break their 52 week low which is within shouting distance (roughly $385) before the week is out. I can't imagine in any world after looking at their numbers and hearing their earnings call how anyone can call themselves an analyst without downgrading this. 

Oil numbers from API looked weak, market unhappy with Apple, could be a rough day tomorrow.

Regardless, Amazon and Google to save the day Thursday.

 
The Big Guy said:
Picked up 135 GILD @ 74.10 to average down.  Hoping for great earnings report.
All about the guidance on this one. Need to hit it out of the park. Hoping for good things on their NASH pipeline.

 
The Big Guy said:
Picked up 135 GILD @ 74.10 to average down.  Hoping for great earnings report.


All about the guidance on this one. Need to hit it out of the park. Hoping for good things on their NASH pipeline.


I hope so for the people that need it.  In regards to the stock, I'll be selling if it gets hammered again to offset cap gains and buy back in December.

 
Technically I think $355 is a good target.   I have no position.  I saw $CMG has something like 2100 stores.  Back in the mid-90's I lived in Denver right between store #1 (by Denver University) and #2 on Alameda.  This is when they were just a cool new burrito place for yuppies, and I loved it - was addicted to it.   Amazed they have that many restaurants.  I hope they can turn it around.

We're in the gambling stage of a bull market.  Maybe if I can muster up the courage I'll post some thoughts.
They're still opening a couple hundred a year, too.

 
They're still opening a couple hundred a year, too.
They revised that number down in earnings from 210-235 to 185-210. Same store traffic and profit is still complete garbage YoY and we're almost 12 months post e coli business. This rebound (if it happens) will be years and years, not a few months - the market is waking up to this.

Regardless, $7.8M in profit for a restaurant with a cap of $12B ($6M a location, I mean cmon) - If this was a competitor, the stock would be in the double digits. Now that the love affair is over and they might be judged on fundamentals, they're extremely overvalued (they were before, but now they're being judged more under a magnifying glass). This is a QSR, not a tech company, their multiples (even at $368) are absolutely ridiculous. Credit Suisse issued a downgrade today, I expect a bunch more.

Bulls pressed for a close over $370, they started to early and got stuffed with burritos. 

 
Anyone come along on this CMG short with me?

Can you imagine what would happen if Ackman sells? It would be printing $200's in days.
I think the $355 target is in the bag.  If you were to take a long term view of your short position - it could be one of those "trades of your life".  LT chart says early in a downtrend - sub-$100.  Obviously that is wild speculation of tea leaf reading.  

 
I think the $355 target is in the bag.  If you were to take a long term view of your short position - it could be one of those "trades of your life".  LT chart says early in a downtrend - sub-$100.  Obviously that is wild speculation of tea leaf reading.  
I actually like brand personally, but they're in BIG trouble. The numbers are not recovering nearly as quickly as anticipated (it is almost the opposite, they're terrible). If this was a GOOG, FB, NFLX, AMZN they would prob have some more wiggle room from the market, but this is a QSR. The market gave them a pass on the horrendous Q2 and the stock stayed flat for most of that time with some ups and downs, as I said yesterday - I think the patience is up... This quarter is a make or break for their share price. If they follow up with another terrible quarter they'll be in the $200's in early 2017 (and this assumes the market stays in a bullish trend, if the market were to hit some volatility, this stock would be destroyed).

I think they get a sympathy bounce tomorrow/Friday, but the trend is quite clear on this one and nothing that happened in their 3rd quarter halted that IMO.

I noted how much I hate this stock when SLB bought it, I was patiently waiting for the right time to hammer it, which I think (& hope) is now.

 

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