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LOL...just researched oil imports/exports.

Exports from the United States to Canada 2022

Refined petroleum
In 2022, the United States exported $15.7 billion worth of refined petroleum to Canada

In 2022, the United States imported $15.5 billion in refined petroleum from Canada. This was about 52% of the total petroleum imported by the US that year.

Tariffs may actually help both countries if they stop sending oil back and forth to each other.

People gonna find out real fast that the oil we get from Canada is different than the stuff we have here.
 
I wonder if it would have been a safe play to get out of companies that sell internationallly, and re-invest in companies that are mainly National (or service based)?
 
LOL...just researched oil imports/exports.

Exports from the United States to Canada 2022

Refined petroleum
In 2022, the United States exported $15.7 billion worth of refined petroleum to Canada

In 2022, the United States imported $15.5 billion in refined petroleum from Canada. This was about 52% of the total petroleum imported by the US that year.

Tariffs may actually help both countries if they stop sending oil back and forth to each other.

People gonna find out real fast that the oil we get from Canada is different than the stuff we have here.
And who wins if we stop getting oil from Canada and Mexico? His buddies the Saudis.
 
Looking like the tariff weakness likely to carry over to Monday. Will be an interesting futures open tomorrow
interesting is the wrong word, disaster more likely
You're predicting a disastrous market opening on Monday? What would be a disaster?

While the tariffs will probably have a short term market impact (and I don't see disastrous as likely), there's lots of chicken littling going on here. There are pro's and con's to these moves. Impossible to get into without getting into politics...I suggest everyone steer clear of that area.
 
Looking like the tariff weakness likely to carry over to Monday. Will be an interesting futures open tomorrow
interesting is the wrong word, disaster more likely
You're predicting a disastrous market opening on Monday? What would be a disaster?

While the tariffs will probably have a short term market impact (and I don't see disastrous as likely), there's lots of chicken littling going on here. There are pro's and con's to these moves. Impossible to get into without getting into politics...I suggest everyone steer clear of that area.
It won’t be that bad. Best guess is down 3-5% on Monday. Flight to safety.
 
Looking like the tariff weakness likely to carry over to Monday. Will be an interesting futures open tomorrow
interesting is the wrong word, disaster more likely
You're predicting a disastrous market opening on Monday? What would be a disaster?

While the tariffs will probably have a short term market impact (and I don't see disastrous as likely), there's lots of chicken littling going on here. There are pro's and con's to these moves. Impossible to get into without getting into politics...I suggest everyone steer clear of that area.
It won’t be that bad. Best guess is down 3-5% on Monday. Flight to safety.
Yah, I'm guessing we might touch 3% but then rebound to 1-2%. We'll see. A lot of focus is on Canada, but it would seem the China tariffs even more impactful financially.
 
Impossible to get into without getting into politics...I suggest everyone steer clear of that area.
Nobody is getting into politics, like not even one post about this administration or the previous one, but if you want to talk stocks sometimes you have to talk issues of the world. We’re all big kids and can walk the line thanks.

The current president has a long, documented history of, um, hyperbole? One small bit of hope is that even the tiniest, most meaningless of concessions by Canada and/or Mexico will be enough to declare it THE BIGGEST TRADE WAR VICTORY IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD and tariffs can be lifted then we can move onto the next dumb thing.
might be different this time there's reasons to think that's a possibly, perhaps not we shall see
Well he just announced that he’s basically doing this to make them the 51st state????
Check his tweets or whatever they are from this morning. There was no slant put on what I said at all.
 
Impossible to get into without getting into politics...I suggest everyone steer clear of that area.
Nobody is getting into politics, like not even one post about this administration or the previous one, but if you want to talk stocks sometimes you have to talk issues of the world. We’re all big kids and can walk the line thanks.

The current president has a long, documented history of, um, hyperbole? One small bit of hope is that even the tiniest, most meaningless of concessions by Canada and/or Mexico will be enough to declare it THE BIGGEST TRADE WAR VICTORY IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD and tariffs can be lifted then we can move onto the next dumb thing.
might be different this time there's reasons to think that's a possibly, perhaps not we shall see
Well he just announced that he’s basically doing this to make them the 51st state????
Check his tweets or whatever they are from this morning. There was no slant put on what I said at all.
Yes I saw the tweets, there were a lot of reasons given for the tariffs. But you chose to include one of the reasons, which frankly has nothing to do with the stock market.


This wasn't political at all either
Exports from the United States to Canada 2022

Refined petroleum
In 2022, the United States exported $15.7 billion worth of refined petroleum to Canada

In 2022, the United States imported $15.5 billion in refined petroleum from Canada. This was about 52% of the total petroleum imported by the US that year.

Tariffs may actually help both countries if they stop sending oil back and forth to each other.

People gonna find out real fast that the oil we get from Canada is different than the stuff we have here.
And who wins if we stop getting oil from Canada and Mexico? His buddies the Saudis.
 
Looking like the tariff weakness likely to carry over to Monday. Will be an interesting futures open tomorrow
interesting is the wrong word, disaster more likely
You're predicting a disastrous market opening on Monday? What would be a disaster?

While the tariffs will probably have a short term market impact (and I don't see disastrous as likely), there's lots of chicken littling going on here. There are pro's and con's to these moves. Impossible to get into without getting into politics...I suggest everyone steer clear of that area.
It won’t be that bad. Best guess is down 3-5% on Monday. Flight to safety.
Bitcoin down about 6% since the markets closed on Friday so that is probably about right.
 
Looking like the tariff weakness likely to carry over to Monday. Will be an interesting futures open tomorrow
interesting is the wrong word, disaster more likely
You're predicting a disastrous market opening on Monday? What would be a disaster?

While the tariffs will probably have a short term market impact (and I don't see disastrous as likely), there's lots of chicken littling going on here. There are pro's and con's to these moves. Impossible to get into without getting into politics...I suggest everyone steer clear of that area.
It won’t be that bad. Best guess is down 3-5% on Monday. Flight to safety.
Bitcoin down about 6% since the markets closed on Friday so that is probably about right.
BTC can be down 6% due to a stiff breeze. I'll say -2%, even though the markets should, by all rights, have this priced in already.
 
Looking like the tariff weakness likely to carry over to Monday. Will be an interesting futures open tomorrow
interesting is the wrong word, disaster more likely
You're predicting a disastrous market opening on Monday? What would be a disaster?

While the tariffs will probably have a short term market impact (and I don't see disastrous as likely), there's lots of chicken littling going on here. There are pro's and con's to these moves. Impossible to get into without getting into politics...I suggest everyone steer clear of that area.
It won’t be that bad. Best guess is down 3-5% on Monday. Flight to safety.
Bitcoin down about 6% since the markets closed on Friday so that is probably about right.
BTC can be down 6% due to a stiff breeze. I'll say -2%, even though the markets should, by all rights, have this priced in already.

It was about a 10% drop from Friday morning's peak to the trough an hour or so ago.

Since we're playing the guessing game on the markets, I'll go with an S&P open down 3.5%, might touch 4% during the day and then settle back to like -2.5%.

But nothing surprises me anymore, outside of NBA trades anyway.
 
Looking like the tariff weakness likely to carry over to Monday. Will be an interesting futures open tomorrow
interesting is the wrong word, disaster more likely
You're predicting a disastrous market opening on Monday? What would be a disaster?

While the tariffs will probably have a short term market impact (and I don't see disastrous as likely), there's lots of chicken littling going on here. There are pro's and con's to these moves. Impossible to get into without getting into politics...I suggest everyone steer clear of that area.

Thank you.
 
Here we are again, watching futures on Sunday night like during Covid. We knew this uncertainty in the markets would happen again. Some sectors have been sort of begging for a pullback/correction. I've been building up some cash but it never feels like enough.
 
Here we are again, watching futures on Sunday night like during Covid. We knew this uncertainty in the markets would happen again. Some sectors have been sort of begging for a pullback/correction. I've been building up some cash but it never feels like enough.

Nope never does. I’m at 50% cash and i still wish it were more lol.
 
Crypto down 10-30% today on top of declines over the weekend. Equity futures down 1.5-2+%. Asian markets down 2-3%. Oil spiking.
 
The markets shrugging off all Trump’s tariff statements is really surprising. He said he would do this for months and that he loved Tariffs. Honestly should have been priced in.
 
The markets shrugging off all Trump’s tariff statements is really surprising. He said he would do this for months and that he loved Tariffs. Honestly should have been priced in.
Then wouldn't it not be surprising that the marketing is shrugging it off, if its priced in.
I wouldn’t call this mornings price action shrugging it off. But maybe my post wasn’t clear. I am saying markets thinking this wasn’t coming and it was all negotiation.
 
The markets shrugging off all Trump’s tariff statements is really surprising. He said he would do this for months and that he loved Tariffs. Honestly should have been priced in.
Then wouldn't it not be surprising that the marketing is shrugging it off, if its priced in.
I wouldn’t call this mornings price action shrugging it off. But maybe my post wasn’t clear. I am saying markets thinking this wasn’t coming and it was all negotiation.
Ah gotcha. I think it all depends on the time horizon / context. Its not surprising to me that the markets react to the actual event itself. While a 2% decline feels like a lot on that day, if you step back the fact that we're basically trading in the same range for the last month and a half tells me this has been either largely priced in, not believed to be very impactful, or not believed to last.
 
The markets shrugging off all Trump’s tariff statements is really surprising. He said he would do this for months and that he loved Tariffs. Honestly should have been priced in.
Then wouldn't it not be surprising that the marketing is shrugging it off, if its priced in.
I wouldn’t call this mornings price action shrugging it off. But maybe my post wasn’t clear. I am saying markets thinking this wasn’t coming and it was all negotiation.
It's still likely in negotiation.
What's he negotiating for? Who knows
 
The markets shrugging off all Trump’s tariff statements is really surprising. He said he would do this for months and that he loved Tariffs. Honestly should have been priced in.
Then wouldn't it not be surprising that the marketing is shrugging it off, if its priced in.
I wouldn’t call this mornings price action shrugging it off. But maybe my post wasn’t clear. I am saying markets thinking this wasn’t coming and it was all negotiation.
It's still likely in negotiation.
What's he negotiating for? Who knows
Anything.

Make threats.
If necessary, act on them.
Until you gain small concessions.
Then claim large concessions.
Rinse.
Repeat.

This isn't new territory. They only stick in Canada and Mexico if he doesn't gain anything. China is another story.
 

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