SouthJersey
Footballguy
So...my takeaway: stay away from healthcare tech. Stick to the big insurers who are going to make money regardless unless a Bernie type is elected. My $ANTM and $UNH are at their all time highs.
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Don Hutson
Footballguy
Is this the first time an NFL game has been played during market hours?
Capella
Footballguy
ChiefD
Footballguy
ericttspikes
Footballguy
wild ride for GMHI/LAZR today. Was down 20% now up 8%.
Bamboo Bill
Footballguy
Been holding that for a while. Only have 200 shares but it was one of the bunch I bought a few months ago. If it switches over tomorrow I’ll see what it does. It’s in my IRA so no worry about taxes when selling but seems like it’s got potential long term.
Maybe Bezos should have been doing some work rather than sitting on the couch eating chips and letting his company go down the toilet.
CR69
Footballguy
What do you think happens to health insurance companies when the US joins the rest of the world with socialized healthcare?
ericttspikes
Footballguy
SouthJersey
Footballguy
I work in healthcare, but I"m no expert. I don't know when (if) the US will move to socialized medicine. Obamacare was a minor step and hardly in that direction, but major carriers were key in the state marketplaces. The government was not insuring folks, they had to buy insurance on the marketplace from private carriers. If Biden does the same and this becomes the compromised norm (doubtful, but maybe Republicans concede to this rather than Medicare for All), then insurance carriers make out well.
Plus many of the big payers also have lucrative side-businesses that make good $$$. UNH owns Optum which has a huge pharmacy business as well has hospital consulting/management businesses. Aetna is now a part of CVS which is also insurance/pharmacy. Anthem and Cigna tried to merge but I think that fell through for one reason or another.
Long story short I think the private payers are in a good spot right now. Plus while they might be paying more for COVID admissions, in the short/intermediate term they're saving quite a bit of money with so many hospitals decreasing or completely putting a pause on all of their elective surgeries which are the high dollar payouts for insurance carriers.
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Why does it matter, we won't be around to see what happens.
You have a coalition of 90% of the country that has no vested interest in helping out the 10% getting buried.
KGB
Footballguy
Glad you waited. I originally got in about $18 and even though I bought more yesterday, still in the green 8%.
I just think this is a cpmpany that in 10 years, you say, duh. The biggest name data company with all the GOVT contracts. So, I'm very long term on this buy.
CowboyFan4822
Footballguy
Have been following along for a little while now. I’ve pretty much only invested in vanguard ETF’s (VTI, VWO, etc.), amazon, and Bitcoin. I’ve been very pro crypto for a few years now but never had the money to invest like I’d like until recent.
I’m 34, fairly risk adverse and while small in these groups have just gotten on my feet after years of mess ups and probably have around 5k to start with and around 500 going in every week. Any words of advice where to look at or stick with the etf’s so I’m pretty well diverse. Am still leaning towards keeping a minimum of 25% in crypto if not more.
Thanks.
I’m 34, fairly risk adverse and while small in these groups have just gotten on my feet after years of mess ups and probably have around 5k to start with and around 500 going in every week. Any words of advice where to look at or stick with the etf’s so I’m pretty well diverse. Am still leaning towards keeping a minimum of 25% in crypto if not more.
Thanks.
KGB
Footballguy
I would only invest a small $$$ amount. like 5% as a learning/play money for most of the stuff in this thread until you feel comfortable. It's been a great market for a long time which makes everything look gravy.
2. be more patient than me
CowboyFan4822
Footballguy
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
Ebbs and flows. Past few days were rough on SPAC type stuff and some tech stocks popped tonight likely igniting the SPACs.
TripItUp
Footballguy
Cathie Wood is a noted investor and her funds bought LGVW today. She has a strong following that tails her on buys.
I saw this and now I'm taking a closer look because she and her team are some of the sharpest tech investor minds in the world.
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Desert_Power
Footballguy
TripItUp
Footballguy
zazale
Footballguy
Just poking at how much you change your mind.
You held some pretty firm convictions on DKNG so I was surprised how quickly you changed your mind here.
KGB
Footballguy
drunken slob
Footballguy
$nnox has their demo at 930am Eastern tomorrow
From a dude that can't control himself
Good job @zazale for picking this up also
So damn 2020
TripItUp
Footballguy
can't have the same mindset on all stocks IMHO. DKNG is a unique company in an emerging market. LGVW not so much. My doctor buddies are not run of the mill MDs. They have made me a lot of money over the past 10 years. Got me in on CRISPR early...made a boatload.
Nothing wrong with listening to other informed opinions.
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It's all good. Your initial post didn't have much info so I was like WTF? Appreciate the follow up explaining why you changed your mind.
Capella
Footballguy
Wood buying wasn’t today. That’s week old news. That’s why it popped up before dropping Monday/Tuesday. It’s popped today because it’s an SPAC and some of them move in sympathy. Just like EVs and WFH/tech stocks. That’s been happening a lot this year.
TripItUp
Footballguy
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Hasn't done diddly in 4 months. That's plenty of time off. GE was a great stock back in the day too. Now that I mentioned it, even GE has about doubled during the last 4 months. Freaking department stores like Kohl's and Nordstrom have doubled in that time. Companies that don't even have a product like RIDE and NNOX have doubled in that time. Floating petri dishes are punching him in the nose like they are a young Tyson. It's like he's running an inverse ETF during a bull run. Dude needs to take some lessons from Elon, he doesn't take time off and neither does his stock. Stonks go up, get with the program Jeffrey.I hope Jeff is enjoying some well deserved time off. Made me a fortune this year.
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KGB
Footballguy
Agree. I'm pretty pissed. I have 70+ shares and im in the red. I coulda played darts and made more
Better not see "christmas was already factored in" after they blow away earnings.
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drunken slob
Footballguy
Here you go from 11/24:
https://m.benzinga.com/article/18510212
Her and others buying isn’t new news. It even says that her firm could continue to buy.
Article even mentions that she bought IPOB at $18 in September. She should have asked me about that since I bought it around $11 on a recommendation a couple months prior. I could have saved her some money.
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When did you start investing? Also, do you have accounts with index funds/ETFs? If you own an S&P 500 type fund, 5% or so is Amazon. I think I figured out that 15-20%ish of my index type funds were Apple, Google, Amazon and Facebook. If you’ve enjoyed any of the past decade’s stock run up in funds/ETFs you’re in the green on Amazon.Agree. I'm pretty pissed. I have 70+ shares and im in the red. I coulda played darts and made more
Better not see "christmas was already factored in" after they blow away earnings.
That said, you’ve done what many a man couldn’t do, not make money on Amazon stock. Congrats?
TripItUp
Footballguy
I didn't say or imply she didn't buy earlier, I knew she had. I specifically said she bought today, and that may have contributed to post market rally.
Ok, I was just saying that I don’t think that was the impetus today. People already knew that and with all of the different funds/multiple investments expected. I think it was really as simple as SPACs can sometimes run in packs due to FOMO/retail investors. Look at GMHI, almost identical days. Started way down and increased a lot at the end of the day and way up in AH. Not exactly the same %s, but LGVW did the same as did a bunch of other SPACs. It’s not the same everyday but reading some of those r/wsb discussions and you’d think those guys have literally every penny in TSLA, SPACs and PLTR. Most have no clue what the company’s do. It’s amusing. Still there are enough daily traders now that they appear to be able to move small stocks. I saw discussions on both GMHI and LGVW on there.
KGB
Footballguy
LOL. I was in this thread 10 years ago. Started with $2K. Wish I could say I was successful, I kept going for homeruns and would sometimes buy and sell within minutes. I had no patience and still struggle with that.When did you start investing? Also, do you have accounts with index funds/ETFs? If you own an S&P 500 type fund, 5% or so is Amazon. I think I figured out that 15-20%ish of my index type funds were Apple, Google, Amazon and Facebook. If you’ve enjoyed any of the past decade’s stock run up in funds/ETFs you’re in the green on Amazon.
That said, you’ve done what many a man couldn’t do, not make money on Amazon stock. Congrats?
I cashed out my stock options from work and decided to give it a go but with a different outlook. I still jump into some plays here, but again, I usually get frustrated when they go down and lose. up 30% over what I would have been if I kept my old work stock, so happy.
Been in and out of AMZN quite a few times and am in the green overall.
My strategy now, which it should have been years ago, is to only buy stocks I dont mind holding a long time. Hence, I keep adding to AMZN to lower my cost. but not selling it for quite awhile, hopefully over a year for tax reasons. Maybe forever.
My goal this year is to have
AMZN
AVGO
MJ
CHWY
PLTR
RBLX
ABNB
and hold for a very long time.
edit - (I remember when facebook was highly debated in this thread if it was a suckers bet. I think it opened around $30)
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Dude...that's not cool.When did you start investing? Also, do you have accounts with index funds/ETFs? If you own an S&P 500 type fund, 5% or so is Amazon. I think I figured out that 15-20%ish of my index type funds were Apple, Google, Amazon and Facebook. If you’ve enjoyed any of the past decade’s stock run up in funds/ETFs you’re in the green on Amazon.
That said, you’ve done what many a man couldn’t do, not make money on Amazon stock. Congrats?
Even with the wink.
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KGB
Footballguy
KGB
Footballguy
The facebook debate was very interesting. If I remember, It dropped quite a bit in the beginning.
One of the things I like is a brand name. IE you "AIRBNB a stay" You "order an uber" I'm not sold on doordash as most people I know use competitors.
That why I like the AIRBNB ipo. Will it go down? Dunno. I'll buy 300 shares and average down if that's the case.
I’ll make sure he makes a lot of money on AMZN, don’t worry. I consider Jeff my buddy.
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