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Really liking the latest season of Wentworth... The mind games from Ferguson are enough to tick you off which is sign of good writing and acting. Bea's battle within herself and whether to be Top dog or not has been interesting and bringing Frankie into the mix to clear her head was fun to watch. Looking forward to the final 3 episodes. :popcorn:
Well.. That was an unexpected ending to Season 4 :eek:

The series itself has been very good and season 4 rose to another level.
So much better then Orange is the New Black which it has been compared to.

Should be interesting how they move on with Season 5. :popcorn:  

 
Anyone have recommendations based on the shows we've watched and really liked?

The Returned (10/10)
Broadchurch (9/10)
Stranger Things (8.5/10)
Happy Valley (8/10)
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The Fall (7/10)
Poldark (6.5/10)


Have seen some good stuff about The Americans, but can't figure out how to see it.  Sherlock also on the short list currently.  Saving GOT until after next book at least.

 
Americans is my current favorite show.  Based on your ratings I'm guessing you'd like Justified, Rectify, Luther, and Sherlock.  I'd recommend Luther and Sherlock first, both available on instant.

ETA: We watch Americans on Netflix DVDs.  We still pay for that option because many shows are only available that way.

 
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Anyone have recommendations based on the shows we've watched and really liked?

The Returned (10/10)
Broadchurch (9/10)
Stranger Things (8.5/10)
Happy Valley (8/10)
==================
The Fall (7/10)
Poldark (6.5/10)


Have seen some good stuff about The Americans, but can't figure out how to see it.  Sherlock also on the short list currently.  Saving GOT until after next book at least.
Americans is on Amazon Prime.

 
Americans is my current favorite show.  Based on your ratings I'm guessing you'd like Justified, Rectify, Luther, and Sherlock.  I'd recommend Luther and Sherlock first, both available on instant.

ETA: We watch Americans on Netflix DVDs.  We still pay for that option because many shows are only available that way.
We have a 2-DVD/month plan -- completely spaced on that.

Thanks for the reply!

 
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Speaking of Prime... we've been watching Catastrophe- part way trhough season 1. very, very funny stuff. I keep thinking that maybe the schtick will get old- but not even close (again, only partway through S1).




 
That's a really fun show. It just *works* in the best sense of it the word. 

 
Haven't watched yet, but Mascots looks good if you liked Best in Show (which I did). 
It was worth a watch.  Some laughs for sure, a great premise but there's not much plot.. a lot of the time it just feels like a Best In Show rehash

 
The Commitments is available:  https://www.netflix.com/title/391418

Not a new movie, but I love the music and thought it was a good movie overall.
It's funny, I remember seeing this movie in the theater when it came out and loving it.  I watched it again when it hit NetFlix a few weeks ago and just couldn't believe how well it held up 25 years later.

Other than the lead male singer - I remember thinking his voice was really great, and watching it recently, I thought it was just ok. 

 
The BBC series The Bletchley Circle.

Currently streaming two seasons.  Season 1 has 3 episodes.  Season 2 has 4 episodes.

We just completed season 1.  Enjoyed it up until the final 10 minutes.  :wall:

Pretty good story and psycho thriller type thing. Post WWII - a group of women that worked in a top secret code breaking department get together to solve a serial killer mystery.  However they wrapped up the three episode story way too quickly and conveniently.   

It wasn't great, but good enough to check out the second season.

 
The BBC series The Bletchley Circle.

Currently streaming two seasons.  Season 1 has 3 episodes.  Season 2 has 4 episodes.

We just completed season 1.  Enjoyed it up until the final 10 minutes.  :wall:

Pretty good story and psycho thriller type thing. Post WWII - a group of women that worked in a top secret code breaking department get together to solve a serial killer mystery.  However they wrapped up the three episode story way too quickly and conveniently.   

It wasn't great, but good enough to check out the second season.




 
i liked S1 quite a bit. i thought it was a good story if nothing else. S2 was a little disappointing.

 
Longmire Season 5 is out.  Wife and I binge watched 1-4 over a couple of weeks and loved it.  Season 5 is equally good so far.

 
Finished s2 of Narcos last night- I think its gotten better as the show progresses. looking forward to seeing where s3 goes (going back to cali, cali, cali...)

 
Speaking of Prime... we've been watching Catastrophe- part way trhough season 1. very, very funny stuff. I keep thinking that maybe the schtick will get old- but not even close (again, only partway through S1).
You'd probably like Fleabag then

Also on Amazon

 
not sure if it was amazon or netflix, but watched the pilot for Prickly Pete last night. feels a bit formulaic tv, IMO. might give it another shot, but will likely forget about it. great cast though- gio ribisi, bryan cranston, matronly woman from the americans, and a few others that did really well with their roles in the pilot.

 
not sure if it was amazon or netflix, but watched the pilot for Prickly Pete last night. feels a bit formulaic tv, IMO. might give it another shot, but will likely forget about it. great cast though- gio ribisi, bryan cranston, matronly woman from the americans, and a few others that did really well with their roles in the pilot.




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he was responsible for it, as i recall.

 
"Call Me Lucky" is a documentary about comedian Barry Crimmins. Can't believe I never heard of this guy as much as I got into Bill Hicks.... VERY similar styles.

Just a great documentary about a fascinating and pretty funny guy. I don't want to give spoilers in case anyone isn't familiar with him... but he goes beyond comedy into the realm of social justice and ends up being a pretty big hero and a thorn in some disgusting bad guys' sides.

Very entertaining. Recommend to all
Louie C.K. just produced and directed Crimmins' first stand up special, available on his website.

[SIZE=10.5pt]Hello there fans and subscribers and generally folks who still haven't kicked themselves off of my email list...[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I'm writing you today because I'm offering something new on my website. This time it's not me. It's a great comedian named Barry Crimmins. Last summer I produced and directed Barry's first live standup special. It's called "Whatever Threatens You". It costs the usual 5 dollars, and it's really ####### great. So please download it here. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Barry is a legend. A great mind, an author and activist and political satirist. He has been an important voice of passion and reason since the 1970s. He has stood before thousands of audiences of every size and type and told them the truth with wit and wisdom, with anger and compassion. Barry was a towering example to me when I started doing standup at age 18. He fostered the comedy scene that I cut my teeth on and later became my friend. More than all of that, I am his fan. I love his voice. He makes me laugh. He's always right. There has NEVER been another comic like him. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]The great thing about comedians is that they get better with time. And I feel very lucky to be bringing you Barry's first standup special. I produced it and directed it and he worked incredibly hard over the last two years on the road shaping it and putting it together and he left every ounce of it on the stage when we filmed him. When you watch this special, you'll be seeing a great comic and a prime and only example of what comedy is at it's best. You'll see a comedian who cares about what he is saying and who brings integrity and experience and an unmatched skill as a writer to his performance. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]About two years ago, Bob Goldthwait, a good friend of Barry's, produced a documentary about him titled "Call Me Lucky". It covers a whole other part of Barry's life where he made a huge impact.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Barry was a victim of sexual abuse when he was very little. He turned around his personal pain to help others by challenging the power companies of the internet to police child pornography, testifying before Congress and championing victims everywhere by sharing his own story. You should look for this movie on Netflix. It's great and also includes great footage of Barry's early work as a standup.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]"Call Me Lucky" was shown at the Sundance Film festival last year and Barry was there to receive a thunderous standing ovation from the audience. He called me that night and we talked for hours about life and about comedy. I told him that I wish more people knew how great he is. I made him a promise that if he went on the road and built a solid hour I would shoot it for him and put it on my site. He took me up on it. I told him he could shoot it anywhere in the country he wanted. He chose Lawrence, Kansas. So we flew the crew into Lawrence and shot this special.
  
There are a lot of standup specials out there right now. On Netflix, on iTunes, HBO, whatever. But you won't see another like this.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Go here now to download it for 5 dollars. Or keep reading if you want to know more.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I met Barry when I started doing Standup comedy in Boston in 1985. As a kid, I loved standup. And I dreamed of being a comedian. But living in suburban Boston, I never would have found a path to actually being a comedian if it weren't for Barry. Because years before I started, Barry had been creating a standup scene where there wasn't one before. I loved Steve Martin, Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy, George Carlin and my new favorite at the time, Steven Wright. What I didn't know is that Steven Wright was from Burlington Mass, a few miles from me, and that he had cut his teeth and found his path to fame in Boston Mass, which was a five minute drive down the Mass Turnpike, which ran noisily behind my house.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I probably would have stayed just a kid with a yearning and grown into a man with no skills and would have had no choice but to rob old ladies to make my living. But one day I was listening to the radio and they said "If you want to be a comedian come down to Stitches Comedy club on Comm Ave for the open mic night. All you have to do is sign up and you get five minutes on stage."  [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]About a month later, I got the courage to go down there and try it. What I discovered was that Boston had a massive, thriving standup scene. There were four full time standup clubs, (Stitches, Play it Again Sams, Nicks, The Comedy Connection) which were packed seven nights a week, and an ever shifting constellation of satellite rooms and one-night gigs, spread all along New England, all populated with Boston Standups. Like Ray Liotta says in Goodfellas, "It was a glorious time, and wise guys were everywhere."[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]The standard for talent in the Boston Comedy scene was about here: Juliard-level performance skills and Mark Twain-level writing. You could walk into any comedy club in Boston and see any random comedian and the worst of them were polished, original and absolutely killed. And when you were lucky, which was often, because these guys worked like oxen, you could see a comedian that was better than ANYONE you ever saw on TV or anywhere else. Guys like Steve Sweeney, Jimmy Tingle, Don Gavin, Mike Donovan, Teddy Bergeron, Lenny Clarke, Ron Lynch, Joe Yanetty, Kenny Rogerson, DJ Hazard, Mike McDonald.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I'm not even close to covering the list here. And there were new younger comics who were hot and developing under the wings of and in the wake of these giants. Dana Gould, Tom Kenney, Paul Kozlowski, Billy Martin, Rich Ceisler, Frank Santarelli, Fran Salomita, Ed Driscoll, Zito and Bean, Fred Wilson, Tony V, Denis Leary. Every one of these comics and FAR more, too many to list, was working every night in the thriving comedy clubs around the city. Even open mic nights were packed with expectant crowds and populated by solid, new comedians who had a ridiculously high bar to meet, set, not by the famous comedians on TV and in movies, but by the local headliners who they had to follow. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]The gravity of all of this pulled me in at age 18 and when I peeked inside the Boston comedy clubs, my jaw dropped at what was there. At how good these guys were and how much opportunity there was for a new young comic. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I came in to the Boston scene along with Marc Maron, Nick Dipaolo, David Cross, Laura Kightlinger, Janine Garafolo, Wendy Leibman, Sam Seider, John Benjamin, Jonathan Groff, Brian Frazier, Amir Gollan. Some of these you've heard of, some you haven't.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I got to know every comedian in Boston and I still know all their jokes by heart. I went to clubs every single night. I was a young annoying kid, and peppered them with questions about how they did what they did. And it wasn't long before I myself was able to make a living doing what I loved and dreamed of, because of the structure created by these guys who welcomed me into their world, taught me and inspired me. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I'm NOTHING without Boston and without those comedians, all of whose names I hope you google after you read this.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]There are two names that are vital to this story which I've so far left out. Barry Crimmins and Kevin Meaney. They were two guys from upstate New York who came to Boston and, among other guys, were the ones who made all of this happen. I don't know the whole story, or even most of it, because I was in Junior High when it happened, but Barry, Kevin, a guy named Mike MacDonald, and a bunch of the guys on the top list of this email, started the Boston Comedy scene about eight years before I dropped into it, in a tiny Chinese restaurant in Inman square called the Ding Ho. They did shows there every night and there was always a line around the block. By the time I started, the Ding Ho had closed down, (the owner had gambling debts) but the scene had exploded into what I discovered. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Barry Crimmins was like the godfather of the whole thing. He was an intense, dark man with a full beard and glaring eyes. He was like a bear. Like a genius animal raised in the wilderness, who was educated at Oxford. He smoked cigars and drank beer and growled about Ronald Reagan. I was TERRIFIED of Barry when I was a new young comic. The general sense that was palpable when Barry was at a club, was that all these great comics looked to him. That he set the bar for creativity. There was a standard in Boston. You had to be original. You had to have an idea. You had to be creative. You had to write. That came from Barry Crimmins.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Because without Barry, as great as the comedy was in Boston, it largely followed the character of the city itself. There was a lusty, drunk, bitter energy to every show. A lot of comics would go on stage and tell stories about getting drunk and talk about the local sports teams and about getting laid. All worthy subjects. And the drunk crowds would laugh heartily, often shout back at the stage. There was a dangerous energy to every show and you always had a feeling that if you didn't get laughs, you might get the #### beat out of you after a show. Comedians even fought each other. It was a rowdy scene. But when Barry went on stage, people listened. Every comedian in the room would face the stage and watch him and listen. He was brilliant and compelling and he was "####in' Smaht". And he gave a bit of that to everyone else. He was also funny as hell. His jokes were sharp. He had a wicked fast ball, like Dennis Eckersly. He would explain the truth of a global situation and lay the groundwork through a quick education of the human condition and then ignite the atmosphere with a crackling joke. You'd laugh and say "Oh my god." As a new idea would explode in your mind along with the laugh from your body. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Later in life I became good friends with Steven Wright, who is also very close to Barry. Steven told me a lot about the Ding Ho, where he started. He told me how scared he was to be a comedian, at the same time as he wanted to be one. There was so much about it that ran against his personal nature (which is part of why he's great to watch) and how all the comedians at the Ding Ho, including Barry, taught him and encouraged him. My experience starting out was the same and that idea of teaching, mentoring and passing down a creative tradition, was fostered by Barry.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Kevin Meaney is someone you may have heard of. You also may have heard that he died on Friday. He was 60. Kevin was the gravity that pulled me into the scene. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Kevin was the most naturally funny comedian I ever saw. Every word he said was insanely hilarious. He had a funny voice, face and rhythm to his speech. But he had a childish courage that was ####### inspiring. Whenever Kevin would bomb, and sometimes he would, he would start to sing a song "I don't care! I don't care! My jokes don't go over I don't care! I don't care! I don't care! IIII DOOON'T CAAARE!" I don't care! I don't care!"  and he would sing this song, in Ethyl Mirman's voice, for sometimes 30 minutes. The crowd would be FURIOUS. I and any other comedian in the room would be literally on the floor, laughing, crying, gasping for air. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Kevin had a surge of fame right around the time that I met him in the mid 80s. He was given a shot on Letterman and it went so well that Johnny Carson demanded he come on his show and do the exact same set. I remember being at Play it Again Sams. We shut the showroom down and pretty much every comedian in Boston packed into the back bar to watch Kevin on Carson on a tiny TV that hung over the bar. We were so proud of him. Later he was on SNL and had his own show (Uncle Buck), and the whole country fell in love with his standup like I did. So he was also an example of what you could accomplish if you worked as hard as he did and were as wonderfully original and great. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Barry and Kevin were very close friends. They worked at the Ding Ho together. They built and shaped the Boston scene together.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I loved every comedian in Boston. I really did. I still do. But Barry, for me, created the idea that comedy could be great and mean something. And Kevin used to hurt my stomach and he made me believe there was NOTHING you couldn't do on stage if you have the SKILL. He was outrageous and obnoxious stupid and childish and it all worked because he was blindingly good and musical and smooth and perfect and joyful in every show he did. 
 
Where Barry taught us that there was a smart, profound integrity to be mined in comedy - that you could speak truth and be funny. That Standup was an art, that it was a form of literature and political and social insurgence and still be just ####### funnny and sound like that guy you love listening to at the end of the bar you go to after work. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Kevin taught us that you can reach down into your very babyhood and just be as silly and insane as you want, that you can smash the structure and just talk like your mother and sing Wayne Newton and scream and sing and if you carry that off with confidence and skill, the audience will follow you everywhere. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Another thing I learned from Barry and an element he brings to comedy that is very rare. This is important:  
A lot of comedy is a defense. A shield or an arrow shot by a wounded person into a cruel world. A lot of comedy is about not giving a ####. Or trying not to. Or acting like things don't hurt. Or like it doesn't matter that it hurts when it does. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]In Barry's very face as he talks you can see that life hurts. And that he's acutely aware of human suffering. Of lies and pain. And that it matters to him. He is angry because he loves human beings. And he gives you all of his feelings in all of his vulnerability even as he survives and laughs and makes us laugh. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]So... it was really these two guys, Barry and Kevin, who shaped me as the comedian I am today and who gave me the opportunity to work at it and do it for myself. And I am ETERNALLY grateful to have gotten to call them both my friends. One of them I lost on Friday. The other one, I bring to you here.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I learned that Kevin died when I wrote Barry to ask him for some bio information that I could use to write this email to introduce his special. He wrote me back... 
"No easy way to say this but I just received word that Kevin Meaney died, apparently of a heart attack. I will get to this ASAP but I just learned of this five minutes ago and he was one of my dearest, dearest friends and I'm pretty ####ed up at the moment."[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I was shocked and heartbroken. Yesterday, Barry and I discussed delaying the premiere of his special, which has been scheduled for today for a while. We struggled with what to do. Obviously, we decided to release it on schedule. The deciding factor was that Barry told me that Kevin, who he talked to frequently, was very excited to have this come out. He was excited for Barry and for people to finally see his friend in all his glory.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I'm also not regretful to have this opportunity, though it's messy in timing, to tell you how I feel about my friend and mentor who is gone at the same time I can tell you how I feel about my friend and mentor who lives on and to bring you his work and his voice and his greatness.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Goodbye Kevin.    [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Ladies and Gentlemen, Barry Crimmins...[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Download here for 5 dollars.[/SIZE]  
 
Louie C.K. just produced and directed Crimmins' first stand up special, available on his website.

[SIZE=10.5pt]Hello there fans and subscribers and generally folks who still haven't kicked themselves off of my email list...[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I'm writing you today because I'm offering something new on my website. This time it's not me. It's a great comedian named Barry Crimmins. Last summer I produced and directed Barry's first live standup special. It's called "Whatever Threatens You". It costs the usual 5 dollars, and it's really ####### great. So please download it here. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Barry is a legend. A great mind, an author and activist and political satirist. He has been an important voice of passion and reason since the 1970s. He has stood before thousands of audiences of every size and type and told them the truth with wit and wisdom, with anger and compassion. Barry was a towering example to me when I started doing standup at age 18. He fostered the comedy scene that I cut my teeth on and later became my friend. More than all of that, I am his fan. I love his voice. He makes me laugh. He's always right. There has NEVER been another comic like him. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]The great thing about comedians is that they get better with time. And I feel very lucky to be bringing you Barry's first standup special. I produced it and directed it and he worked incredibly hard over the last two years on the road shaping it and putting it together and he left every ounce of it on the stage when we filmed him. When you watch this special, you'll be seeing a great comic and a prime and only example of what comedy is at it's best. You'll see a comedian who cares about what he is saying and who brings integrity and experience and an unmatched skill as a writer to his performance. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]About two years ago, Bob Goldthwait, a good friend of Barry's, produced a documentary about him titled "Call Me Lucky". It covers a whole other part of Barry's life where he made a huge impact.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Barry was a victim of sexual abuse when he was very little. He turned around his personal pain to help others by challenging the power companies of the internet to police child pornography, testifying before Congress and championing victims everywhere by sharing his own story. You should look for this movie on Netflix. It's great and also includes great footage of Barry's early work as a standup.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]"Call Me Lucky" was shown at the Sundance Film festival last year and Barry was there to receive a thunderous standing ovation from the audience. He called me that night and we talked for hours about life and about comedy. I told him that I wish more people knew how great he is. I made him a promise that if he went on the road and built a solid hour I would shoot it for him and put it on my site. He took me up on it. I told him he could shoot it anywhere in the country he wanted. He chose Lawrence, Kansas. So we flew the crew into Lawrence and shot this special.
  
There are a lot of standup specials out there right now. On Netflix, on iTunes, HBO, whatever. But you won't see another like this.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Go here now to download it for 5 dollars. Or keep reading if you want to know more.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I met Barry when I started doing Standup comedy in Boston in 1985. As a kid, I loved standup. And I dreamed of being a comedian. But living in suburban Boston, I never would have found a path to actually being a comedian if it weren't for Barry. Because years before I started, Barry had been creating a standup scene where there wasn't one before. I loved Steve Martin, Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy, George Carlin and my new favorite at the time, Steven Wright. What I didn't know is that Steven Wright was from Burlington Mass, a few miles from me, and that he had cut his teeth and found his path to fame in Boston Mass, which was a five minute drive down the Mass Turnpike, which ran noisily behind my house.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I probably would have stayed just a kid with a yearning and grown into a man with no skills and would have had no choice but to rob old ladies to make my living. But one day I was listening to the radio and they said "If you want to be a comedian come down to Stitches Comedy club on Comm Ave for the open mic night. All you have to do is sign up and you get five minutes on stage."  [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]About a month later, I got the courage to go down there and try it. What I discovered was that Boston had a massive, thriving standup scene. There were four full time standup clubs, (Stitches, Play it Again Sams, Nicks, The Comedy Connection) which were packed seven nights a week, and an ever shifting constellation of satellite rooms and one-night gigs, spread all along New England, all populated with Boston Standups. Like Ray Liotta says in Goodfellas, "It was a glorious time, and wise guys were everywhere."[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]The standard for talent in the Boston Comedy scene was about here: Juliard-level performance skills and Mark Twain-level writing. You could walk into any comedy club in Boston and see any random comedian and the worst of them were polished, original and absolutely killed. And when you were lucky, which was often, because these guys worked like oxen, you could see a comedian that was better than ANYONE you ever saw on TV or anywhere else. Guys like Steve Sweeney, Jimmy Tingle, Don Gavin, Mike Donovan, Teddy Bergeron, Lenny Clarke, Ron Lynch, Joe Yanetty, Kenny Rogerson, DJ Hazard, Mike McDonald.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I'm not even close to covering the list here. And there were new younger comics who were hot and developing under the wings of and in the wake of these giants. Dana Gould, Tom Kenney, Paul Kozlowski, Billy Martin, Rich Ceisler, Frank Santarelli, Fran Salomita, Ed Driscoll, Zito and Bean, Fred Wilson, Tony V, Denis Leary. Every one of these comics and FAR more, too many to list, was working every night in the thriving comedy clubs around the city. Even open mic nights were packed with expectant crowds and populated by solid, new comedians who had a ridiculously high bar to meet, set, not by the famous comedians on TV and in movies, but by the local headliners who they had to follow. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]The gravity of all of this pulled me in at age 18 and when I peeked inside the Boston comedy clubs, my jaw dropped at what was there. At how good these guys were and how much opportunity there was for a new young comic. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I came in to the Boston scene along with Marc Maron, Nick Dipaolo, David Cross, Laura Kightlinger, Janine Garafolo, Wendy Leibman, Sam Seider, John Benjamin, Jonathan Groff, Brian Frazier, Amir Gollan. Some of these you've heard of, some you haven't.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I got to know every comedian in Boston and I still know all their jokes by heart. I went to clubs every single night. I was a young annoying kid, and peppered them with questions about how they did what they did. And it wasn't long before I myself was able to make a living doing what I loved and dreamed of, because of the structure created by these guys who welcomed me into their world, taught me and inspired me. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I'm NOTHING without Boston and without those comedians, all of whose names I hope you google after you read this.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]There are two names that are vital to this story which I've so far left out. Barry Crimmins and Kevin Meaney. They were two guys from upstate New York who came to Boston and, among other guys, were the ones who made all of this happen. I don't know the whole story, or even most of it, because I was in Junior High when it happened, but Barry, Kevin, a guy named Mike MacDonald, and a bunch of the guys on the top list of this email, started the Boston Comedy scene about eight years before I dropped into it, in a tiny Chinese restaurant in Inman square called the Ding Ho. They did shows there every night and there was always a line around the block. By the time I started, the Ding Ho had closed down, (the owner had gambling debts) but the scene had exploded into what I discovered. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Barry Crimmins was like the godfather of the whole thing. He was an intense, dark man with a full beard and glaring eyes. He was like a bear. Like a genius animal raised in the wilderness, who was educated at Oxford. He smoked cigars and drank beer and growled about Ronald Reagan. I was TERRIFIED of Barry when I was a new young comic. The general sense that was palpable when Barry was at a club, was that all these great comics looked to him. That he set the bar for creativity. There was a standard in Boston. You had to be original. You had to have an idea. You had to be creative. You had to write. That came from Barry Crimmins.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Because without Barry, as great as the comedy was in Boston, it largely followed the character of the city itself. There was a lusty, drunk, bitter energy to every show. A lot of comics would go on stage and tell stories about getting drunk and talk about the local sports teams and about getting laid. All worthy subjects. And the drunk crowds would laugh heartily, often shout back at the stage. There was a dangerous energy to every show and you always had a feeling that if you didn't get laughs, you might get the #### beat out of you after a show. Comedians even fought each other. It was a rowdy scene. But when Barry went on stage, people listened. Every comedian in the room would face the stage and watch him and listen. He was brilliant and compelling and he was "####in' Smaht". And he gave a bit of that to everyone else. He was also funny as hell. His jokes were sharp. He had a wicked fast ball, like Dennis Eckersly. He would explain the truth of a global situation and lay the groundwork through a quick education of the human condition and then ignite the atmosphere with a crackling joke. You'd laugh and say "Oh my god." As a new idea would explode in your mind along with the laugh from your body. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Later in life I became good friends with Steven Wright, who is also very close to Barry. Steven told me a lot about the Ding Ho, where he started. He told me how scared he was to be a comedian, at the same time as he wanted to be one. There was so much about it that ran against his personal nature (which is part of why he's great to watch) and how all the comedians at the Ding Ho, including Barry, taught him and encouraged him. My experience starting out was the same and that idea of teaching, mentoring and passing down a creative tradition, was fostered by Barry.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Kevin Meaney is someone you may have heard of. You also may have heard that he died on Friday. He was 60. Kevin was the gravity that pulled me into the scene. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Kevin was the most naturally funny comedian I ever saw. Every word he said was insanely hilarious. He had a funny voice, face and rhythm to his speech. But he had a childish courage that was ####### inspiring. Whenever Kevin would bomb, and sometimes he would, he would start to sing a song "I don't care! I don't care! My jokes don't go over I don't care! I don't care! I don't care! IIII DOOON'T CAAARE!" I don't care! I don't care!"  and he would sing this song, in Ethyl Mirman's voice, for sometimes 30 minutes. The crowd would be FURIOUS. I and any other comedian in the room would be literally on the floor, laughing, crying, gasping for air. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Kevin had a surge of fame right around the time that I met him in the mid 80s. He was given a shot on Letterman and it went so well that Johnny Carson demanded he come on his show and do the exact same set. I remember being at Play it Again Sams. We shut the showroom down and pretty much every comedian in Boston packed into the back bar to watch Kevin on Carson on a tiny TV that hung over the bar. We were so proud of him. Later he was on SNL and had his own show (Uncle Buck), and the whole country fell in love with his standup like I did. So he was also an example of what you could accomplish if you worked as hard as he did and were as wonderfully original and great. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Barry and Kevin were very close friends. They worked at the Ding Ho together. They built and shaped the Boston scene together.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I loved every comedian in Boston. I really did. I still do. But Barry, for me, created the idea that comedy could be great and mean something. And Kevin used to hurt my stomach and he made me believe there was NOTHING you couldn't do on stage if you have the SKILL. He was outrageous and obnoxious stupid and childish and it all worked because he was blindingly good and musical and smooth and perfect and joyful in every show he did. 
 
Where Barry taught us that there was a smart, profound integrity to be mined in comedy - that you could speak truth and be funny. That Standup was an art, that it was a form of literature and political and social insurgence and still be just ####### funnny and sound like that guy you love listening to at the end of the bar you go to after work. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Kevin taught us that you can reach down into your very babyhood and just be as silly and insane as you want, that you can smash the structure and just talk like your mother and sing Wayne Newton and scream and sing and if you carry that off with confidence and skill, the audience will follow you everywhere. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Another thing I learned from Barry and an element he brings to comedy that is very rare. This is important:  
A lot of comedy is a defense. A shield or an arrow shot by a wounded person into a cruel world. A lot of comedy is about not giving a ####. Or trying not to. Or acting like things don't hurt. Or like it doesn't matter that it hurts when it does. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]In Barry's very face as he talks you can see that life hurts. And that he's acutely aware of human suffering. Of lies and pain. And that it matters to him. He is angry because he loves human beings. And he gives you all of his feelings in all of his vulnerability even as he survives and laughs and makes us laugh. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]So... it was really these two guys, Barry and Kevin, who shaped me as the comedian I am today and who gave me the opportunity to work at it and do it for myself. And I am ETERNALLY grateful to have gotten to call them both my friends. One of them I lost on Friday. The other one, I bring to you here.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I learned that Kevin died when I wrote Barry to ask him for some bio information that I could use to write this email to introduce his special. He wrote me back... 
"No easy way to say this but I just received word that Kevin Meaney died, apparently of a heart attack. I will get to this ASAP but I just learned of this five minutes ago and he was one of my dearest, dearest friends and I'm pretty ####ed up at the moment."[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I was shocked and heartbroken. Yesterday, Barry and I discussed delaying the premiere of his special, which has been scheduled for today for a while. We struggled with what to do. Obviously, we decided to release it on schedule. The deciding factor was that Barry told me that Kevin, who he talked to frequently, was very excited to have this come out. He was excited for Barry and for people to finally see his friend in all his glory.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I'm also not regretful to have this opportunity, though it's messy in timing, to tell you how I feel about my friend and mentor who is gone at the same time I can tell you how I feel about my friend and mentor who lives on and to bring you his work and his voice and his greatness.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Goodbye Kevin.    [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Ladies and Gentlemen, Barry Crimmins...[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Download here for 5 dollars.[/SIZE]  
Thanks.  I am ordering it for sure. 

 
"Call Me Lucky" is a documentary about comedian Barry Crimmins. Can't believe I never heard of this guy as much as I got into Bill Hicks.... VERY similar styles.

Just a great documentary about a fascinating and pretty funny guy. I don't want to give spoilers in case anyone isn't familiar with him... but he goes beyond comedy into the realm of social justice and ends up being a pretty big hero and a thorn in some disgusting bad guys' sides.

Very entertaining. Recommend to all
Louie C.K. just produced and directed Crimmins' first stand up special, available on his website.
I'm going to wait for the wikkid anecdote first.

 
I let my 6 year old pick a movie over the weekend. We typically do a kid-friendly movie on Saturday nights but it's kind of a family decision. We'll talk through a few options before letting him pick one of, say, 2-3 movies. He loves Pixar,superheroes, transformers, whatever. Two weeks it was "The Nut Job" and he loved it. Pretty standard B- grade animated flick with Will Arnett, Katherine Hagl, and Liam Neeson lending their voices it. He watched it maybe 3 times over these past two weeks. I'll say this, a little Will Arnett goes a long way for me now.

Anyway, so I let him choose another flick Saturday afternoon and he chose "Spy School" . It was truly awful with some kid actor whose bio now reads "Forrest Landis has given up acting and taken up skateboarding." It's got a cast with some potential - Rider Strong, Lea Thompson, Brian Posehn, a couple of future CW-network tween actresses - but they kind of fail at every turn. It's got the feel of an ABC afterschool special but without the writing, acting or directing. My son was wasn't enjoying it really but he seemed strangely committed seeing the movie to the bitter - and unfunny - end. It's like they had money, favors to call in, and no one even bothered to give half a #### but least of all the producer, director/writer. 

 
given that he was all by counts killed last season... and given that trailer, this seems more like a way of extending the story-line kicking and screaming.
I'm just assuming that he didn't die or it would be a full season with a new storyline. No way I'm going to watch 5 episodes of the story if he did die. I liked season 1 but the second one fell flat. I barely have enough interest in it even if he's alive.

 
I'm just assuming that he didn't die or it would be a full season with a new storyline. No way I'm going to watch 5 episodes of the story if he did die. I liked season 1 but the second one fell flat. I barely have enough interest in it even if he's alive.
I'm with you... the preview/trailer seems to imply we get a season of him still being alive. seems silly, esepcially with how S2 didnt' match S1's pretty high level. a new season, IMO, should be somebody new- not the guy whose story-line lasted too long and already reached a point of natural conclusion.

 
We talking about The Fall in here right now? What made that show unique was that it showed the serial killer drama from the serial killers POV half the time. It was creepy, it was dark, and there's not much like it out there. They ####ed up by not having a new serial killer every season. Gillian Anderson is killer in this role but if they're extending the same killer's story into season 3 somehow, its going to drag and slowly die for a lot of people. Big mistake imo.

 
We talking about The Fall in here right now? What made that show unique was that it showed the serial killer drama from the serial killers POV half the time. It was creepy, it was dark, and there's not much like it out there. They ####ed up by not having a new serial killer every season. Gillian Anderson is killer in this role but if they're extending the same killer's story into season 3 somehow, its going to drag and slowly die for a lot of people. Big mistake imo.




 
i was interested in the political backstory as much as the serial killer. it's a mistake, imo, to expect every season to have a serial killer every season (or episode like "Luther" - *yawn*) but especially so when there is this deep, rich vein of material (Belfast history) to mine. It could have had some real legs if done right.

 
Sadly, this thread has turned into "Everything I've watched on Netflix" as opposed to Netflix gems.  :thumbdown:
Go watch Wentworth and report back.. After finishing this last season I told my Wife & daughter how much better it was then Orange is the new black and they are now hooked. :)

 
Evidently, I quoted you a while ago in this thread and started to respond. I never finished and posted it, but when I went write a response, the old quote and response kept showing up in the box. Sorry. I posted and deleted, but it came back again so I said f### it. 
Happens to me all the time. It's a PITA. 

 
saintfool said:
i was interested in the political backstory as much as the serial killer. it's a mistake, imo, to expect every season to have a serial killer every season (or episode like "Luther" - *yawn*) but especially so when there is this deep, rich vein of material (Belfast history) to mine. It could have had some real legs if done right.
I don't remember the political backstory- remind me (memory sucks).

 
Cjw_55106 said:
Sadly, this thread has turned into "Everything I've watched on Netflix" as opposed to Netflix gems.  :thumbdown:
not a lot of gems left on netflix. seems a natural progression to just harvest what's there and offer the reviews. tbh- it's been just as helpful seeing people put up meh reviews of things than reading how great yet another brit cop drama is.

 
I don't remember the political backstory- remind me (memory sucks).
i don't remember it especially well either. i remember there was some whores from Poland that were being killed, dirty cops helping with the trafficking, and the start of the cover-up that went to the upper ranks of the department, including Gillian Anderson's boss. 

 

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