jamny
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Just finished it yesterday as well and really enjoyed it. I mean, the story is a bit ridiculous imo but they pulled it off well and it kept me interested throughout.
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Footballguy
Story was absurd and it all had the classic but annoying detective show tropes and you're spot on that they somehow pulled it off. Perfect summary of the show.
I am about half way through season 2. Very interesting and thought provoking for sure.
USA started up a few weeks ago a tv series version of John Grisham's 90's novel The Rainmaker which I have enjoyed the first 3 episodes. I think the main kid is a mostly an unknown but he does a pretty good job. John Slattery from Mad Men plays a great lowlife corporate lawyer. Lana Parilla from Once Upon a Time is as beautiful as ever. The girlfriend's actress was bugging me where I had seen her before until it clicked that she was the "hot" high schooler in the recent Jumanji remakes.
Loved most of the Grisham novels and adaptations back in the '90's (The Firm, A Time to Kill, Pelican Brief, The Client, etc.) but was burned out by the time Rainmaker came around and never saw the Matt Damon film because of the burnout. I think it was the last big Grisham adaptation and it bombed at theaters as that trend had kind of run its course IIRC. I recall my brother who is a lawyer speaking pretty highly of the book at one point even if the movie flopped. I believe Peacock has it on streaming if anyone wants to catch up.
Loved most of the Grisham novels and adaptations back in the '90's (The Firm, A Time to Kill, Pelican Brief, The Client, etc.) but was burned out by the time Rainmaker came around and never saw the Matt Damon film because of the burnout. I think it was the last big Grisham adaptation and it bombed at theaters as that trend had kind of run its course IIRC. I recall my brother who is a lawyer speaking pretty highly of the book at one point even if the movie flopped. I believe Peacock has it on streaming if anyone wants to catch up.
I liked the Rainmaker and Runaway Jury the movies. I would say if you liked the other Grisham adaptations you will like Rainmaker. You should give the movie a chance.
I watched the first couple episodes of the Rainmaker series and it's entertaining. Pretty formulaic and what you expect but I like these types of shows.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Zow
Footballguy
Yeah I thought the Damon "Rainmaker" version was good. It's also probably one of Grisham's more realistic law stories if that means anything.
For Grisham movies, I'd go with A Time to Kill as the absolute best while still being somewhat realistic. That said, the legal irony about A Time to Kill is that it champions a concept called "jury nullification." Jury nullification is the idea that while the State has proved the elements of the charged crime beyond a reasonable doubt (i.e. the Defendant is guilty under the law as written), a jury decided for presumably some higher moral basis to acquit. In most jurisdictions - including mine - attorneys are barred from arguing for this and the jury is literally instructed that they can't do this. Nonetheless, in a compelling story that is both well-written and well-acted, this concept seems not only permissible but "right." So, definitely worth the watch, just don't go around thinking that Carl Lee Hailey is innocent under the law (because he's not and he should have been convicted even though we can understand why he did what he did). Further, definitely don't go around committing crimes thinking you'll be acquitted if you had a good reason for committing said crimes that isn't a legal defense (e.g. while it would be fun to punch Nazis or kick Martin Skrilli in the shin, both acts would still be assault).
The Rainmaker comes in second for me because it's a bit more subtle, Damon is great as a young lawyer, and it's actually a pretty plausible story (down to the end where Damon explains in the voiceover that they'll probably never see the money).
I really liked Runaway Jury (both book and movie) from a pure entertainment perspective but it's a legal absurdity. Similarly, The Client and The Pelican Brief are entertaining movies but either grossly unrealistic or significantly flawed.
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I agree on all your points. Grisham stories just make for good entertainment. I don't think there is a movie of his I didn't like. Some are better than others and it's not good to try and compare the movies to the books (The Firm is way off) but both were entertaining in their own rights.
Zow
Footballguy
Are you counting Christmas with the Cranks?
For law movies, probably the only one I didn't care for was The Chamber - although there is still a big positive with this movie as I though Hackman was really good in it.
The Firm as a novel is much, much better than the movie. But, the movie is still entertaining enough to watch.
landrys hat
Footballguy
These last couple episodes of Alien Earth have been awesome. I'm loving the eyeball octopus creature. She's nightmare fuel.
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Yo Mama
Footballguy
Yeah, just got done watching the most recent episode (ep 5). My favorite one yet. Awesome stuff.
Space people are stupid.
identikit
Footballguy
I tend to stay away from most Grisham-inspired films.
They have a high tendency to wrap up everything, every storyline, in a perfect bow. A Time to Kill was the ultimate example.
Life is ragged, mostly
The Firm is my exception for the Grisham avoidance
Kind of the wrong thread, but I needed to get that out...
They have a high tendency to wrap up everything, every storyline, in a perfect bow. A Time to Kill was the ultimate example.
Life is ragged, mostly
The Firm is my exception for the Grisham avoidance
Kind of the wrong thread, but I needed to get that out...
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For some reason, I don't hate this movie.Are you counting Christmas with the Cranks?
For law movies, probably the only one I didn't care for was The Chamber - although there is still a big positive with this movie as I though Hackman was really good in it.
The Firm as a novel is much, much better than the movie. But, the movie is still entertaining enough to watch.
Al Czervik
Not wearing pants
Thanks for mentioning Broadchurch a while back. The wife and I went on to Broadchurch after liking Dept Q and have really been enjoying it. Finished season 1 on Prime and just started season 2 which fired up on Peacock so must have switched.
foxco
Footballguy
Patiently waiting for The Eye to get into one of the Lost Boys and start laying waste to xenomorphs.
Yo Mama
Footballguy
Not sure if this needs spoiler tags:
I was rooting for it to take over that xenomorph it was fighting.
identikit
Footballguy
Getting ready to fire this up
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Broadchurch
S1 was excellent. Terrific performances by all. Recommended.
Edit: Huh, I just noticed it was talked about in the last couple posts. Coincidence.
S1 was excellent. Terrific performances by all. Recommended.
Edit: Huh, I just noticed it was talked about in the last couple posts. Coincidence.
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FarFromHome
Footballguy
Stranger Things new season comes out this year. I am rewatching from season 1 episode 1. That first season was so good. Just screams a Goonies feel to it. Like a Scooby Doo mystery with little kids. Winona Ryder nailed her performance. Solid watch.
WVU Alum
Footballguy
I really liked season 2 as well. I liked the “buddy cop” vibe of Steve and Dustin.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I'll be that guy... Again.
Alien: Earth is not good. All the characters are unlikable idiots. And there's building tension and then there's milking the story to the point of annoyance.
Harrumph.
Alien: Earth is not good. All the characters are unlikable idiots. And there's building tension and then there's milking the story to the point of annoyance.
Harrumph.
foxco
Footballguy
Yeah but that Eye is pretty, pretty goodI'll be that guy... Again.
Alien: Earth is not good. All the characters are unlikable idiots. And there's building tension and then there's milking the story to the point of annoyance.
Harrumph.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I got a hundred of those things out of the wishing well at Perkins. They came in the little bubble things and when you tossed them against the wall they'd crawl down.Yeah but that Eye is pretty, pretty goodI'll be that guy... Again.
Alien: Earth is not good. All the characters are unlikable idiots. And there's building tension and then there's milking the story to the point of annoyance.
Harrumph.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
You got it from the what now?
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Back in the day, at the entrance they had a little wishing well with kids toys in it. Rubber balls, stickers, jacks, etc.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
there are still Perkins left?
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Yes. Not as many as there used to be, obviously.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
They've done a really good job of making nearly all the characters flawed, which I appreciate. I also appreciate that they are building some sympathy for the aliens into the plot.I'll be that guy... Again.
Alien: Earth is not good. All the characters are unlikable idiots. And there's building tension and then there's milking the story to the point of annoyance.
Harrumph.
Also, I'm a sucker for a good corporate-governed dystopia.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
I wanna know what beef The Eye and Xenomorph have. That's gotta be a good backstory!
Tick
Footballguy
Eye seems smart, may have correctly decided that if xenomorph lives, all the humans it could take over will die.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
That's a good point that I did not consider. Man, there are so many ways this plotline could go and I'm on board for most of them!
Scoresman
Footballguy
Rewatching too right now. Forgot how good this was. The Duffer Brothers really nailed the 80s nostalgia and I can't wait to see what they do next.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
no one has mentioned it yet so you guys either think it's really bad (and it does have a low IMDB score) or no one is watching it but I've been watching The Twisted Tale of Amanda Knox on hulu. I'm likely bias since I sort of like these true crime stories and the case was just so interesting to me so I think it's neat to see it kinda play out on the silver screen.
Riffraff
Footballguy
5 Episodes in
I like that someone figured out that the physical challenge beasts are getting taken out - must be 2 men Traitors - to be that confident without the strong guys.
All in 1 episode, the Traitors went from the smartest group with nothing tying them to anything to all 3 being the top vote getters for banishment.
One is not very bright (confuses murder turret conversations with regular daily talk), gets called on not having suspicions, and just is a talkative fella - too much talk. One thinks he's the smartest person in the game. And one that happens to be in the wrong place at the right time a lot.
The quiet Faithful sheepishly raises her hand. Respectfully among chaos...says quietly 'Can I share something?'
Calls out Traitor on Traitor for Eamon (who she's been sure of) vs Paudie (didn't think previously) commotion is with passion. And also mentions highly suspecting Katelyn. Noice
The 'smart one' goes home. First Traitor caught... celebration ensues.
Will they listen to her for the other 2?
Before they take her out?
And who will be recruited? Maybe not so dumb after all... the 'unknown' son.
All in 1 episode, the Traitors went from the smartest group with nothing tying them to anything to all 3 being the top vote getters for banishment.
One is not very bright (confuses murder turret conversations with regular daily talk), gets called on not having suspicions, and just is a talkative fella - too much talk. One thinks he's the smartest person in the game. And one that happens to be in the wrong place at the right time a lot.
The quiet Faithful sheepishly raises her hand. Respectfully among chaos...says quietly 'Can I share something?'
Calls out Traitor on Traitor for Eamon (who she's been sure of) vs Paudie (didn't think previously) commotion is with passion. And also mentions highly suspecting Katelyn. Noice
The 'smart one' goes home. First Traitor caught... celebration ensues.
Will they listen to her for the other 2?
Before they take her out?
And who will be recruited? Maybe not so dumb after all... the 'unknown' son.
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jamny
Footballguy
I thought it was ok.
First episodes are hard to judge sometimes so I'll stick with it for a few more.
El Floppo
Footballguy
same.
and the murder de durder accent coming back for the garbage pail kids started to bug me.
but I guess I'll give it another.
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