Super Bowl 49 discussion thread: Seahawks vs Patriots (Poll added) (1 Viewer)

[JetMaxx]

Your Pats won the Super Bowl. 4th in 14 years. Why are you feeding the trolls?

 

[Old Smiley]

just a joke.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Your Pats won the Super Bowl. 4th in 14 years. Why are you feeding the trolls?

why not?

nobody's stopping you if you want to start an actual football thread

 

[GoBirds]

General Tso, on 02 Feb 2015 - 8:13 PM, said:One last thought... I've watched the Butler interception now at least 30 times. And each time I watch it, I thank God that Butler held onto that ball all the way through contact with the ground. If he bobbled that ball even just a little as it hit the ground, we would have had Dez Bryant x 1,000,000. It's not at all clear if he was going to the ground when he made that catch. Did he "gather himself" and make a football move? I think he did, but boy is it close.

The NFL dodged a bullet on that one. It is paramount that they fix the process rule in the offseason.

Dude....no one cares about the Dez incompletion anymore. Let it go.

 

[HobbesAB]

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4777798/cleaning-out-another-super-bowl-notebook-2#comments

More Butler stories. I really like this guy:

3. Defensive end Akeem Ayers relayed the story of how he was on the sideline with rookie cornerbackMalcolm Butler during Super Bowl XLIX and Butler turned to him and said, "They need to put me in the game because I'm going to do my thing." So Butler, in a sense, called his shot.

 

[Del Griffith]

I'm waiting for ScottyDog to show up and eat some crow after his 38-10 Seattle prediction and his lack of respect for the Patriots. Too bad he probably won't post for months now.

This kind of reaction I don't get. Your team wins the Super Bowl, and the next day the thing you're the most excited about is rubbing the losing team's fans nose in it? Yikes.

Some guy in the Brady thread spent hours researching my old posts and authoring a tear-stained novella about me and my mean words about the Patriots. It's impossible for them to enjoy their team's success unless everyone else in the free world acknowledges their greatness. The inferiority complex of this team's fanbase really is staggering.

one person does not represent a fan base. people posting in this forum does not represent a fan base. That goes for all teams.

You haven't noticed a common "RESPECT US, DAMMIT!" theme among all Pats fans? Because I sure have.

So.....you've met all of them?

 

[[icon]]

so 24 hrs later have you guys reached the conclusion that somebody should have done something differently?

There's no guarantee if something is done differently that works. Also if it's replayed with them doing the same thing it could have turned out differently. Because hindsight is 20/20 sure, I'd rather they have done literally anything differently. I'd rather them run off tackle with Sherman than that.

It's pretty easy to criticize when you already know the outcome. I'd rather not do that.

Exactly.

If Lynch gets stood up twice running into NE's Goal Line Defense, on Monday morning everyone is tearing Carroll & Company a new one for running into a wall, and wondering why they didn't get creative with the play calling.

 

[Old Smiley]

Even if Lynch get stuffed once, third and three or four is a different equation.

 

[[icon]]

Point is... I question the play call too but the monday morning QB'ing is out of hand.

 

[proninja]

Point is... I question the play call too but the monday morning QB'ing is out of hand.

You think it's bad here, you should try going to the grocery store in Seattle right now. I was in Costco yesterday, and seemingly everyone was talking about it in line. I'd guess that roughly 75% of people in Seattle think they know more about football than Pete Carroll right now.

 

[T with T]

the game was obviously thrown by Pete Carrol. No one is goin to make me believe that Caroll was trying to outsmart anyone or pull a fast one or any other nonsense you can think of. The fact he didn't run the ball their and had his qb throw the ball into traffic, one of the most congested areas on the field with the game on the line is beyond baffling and if that isn't proof this game was fixed by some Mobster boss, big wig, Nfl owner Etc????? don't know but that was super fishy and I think should have an ASTERISK along with the other 3. Brady has 4 but how many are legit?

 

[T with T]

Not doubting the NFL as top notch Entertainment but here's a cool little snippet I found to help explain at least the tip of the iceberg.... Everyone gets upset when they find out it's fixed, I don't know why, It's entertainment and either way fixed or not it's still super entertaining and that's all that Matters...

The fix is in by BrianTouhy is also awesome information about this topic. Don't be scared fellow footballers Brady is near to save the day and win another Super Bowl

 

[snogger]

 

[T with T]

http://thefixisin.net/nfl2014.html

 

[T with T]

"Shallow men believe in luck. Strong men believe in cause and effect." - Ralph Waldo Emerson; "I hate all sports as rabidly as a person who likes sports hates common sense." -- H. L. Mencken

 

[Neofight]

so 24 hrs later have you guys reached the conclusion that somebody should have done something differently?

There's no guarantee if something is done differently that works. Also if it's replayed with them doing the same thing it could have turned out differently. Because hindsight is 20/20 sure, I'd rather they have done literally anything differently. I'd rather them run off tackle with Sherman than that.

It's pretty easy to criticize when you already know the outcome. I'd rather not do that.

Exactly.

If Lynch gets stood up twice running into NE's Goal Line Defense, on Monday morning everyone is tearing Carroll & Company a new one for running into a wall, and wondering why they didn't get creative with the play calling.

There's more nuance to the decision than this. It's not as straightforward as run v. pass. There's also thinking about where you're going to throw and to whom: Lockette on a slant is not a high prercentage play by itself for the simple fact that he is not a precise route runner and, while blazingly fast, doesn't have great (or even very good) short area quickness. The knock on him coming out of college was basically this: slow off the line and shaky route runner; his 20 yard short shuttle was 4.19; he was basically a track guy trying to make it. Couple this with the fact that the play was called to the side of Browner, a player they know well and understand his strength is his strength and length, and whom also knows your players and plays as well as anyone. On top of that, the concept was so simple that an undrafted rookie DB could diagnose it and jump it like he was in the huddle. Not to take anything away from Butler, who made a better play.A pass may have well been the right call there, given that they burned a TO for no good reason before Marshawn's run. Pete's explanation of why they went pass is perfectly plausible, given that they only had one left; but even his perspective is skewed by the notion that they threw in reaction to the fact that New England came out of the TO in goal line. Not certain that letting the opposition dictate the play in that way is the best approach, but even if you believe the pass is to your advantage in that scenario, how can you not go play action at the very least or, better yet, read option with some minor wrinkle group concept there? Basically what we're left with is that the Seahawks coaching staff perceived an advantage but ran a play that was still obvious and had a fairly high chance for a turnover.

And that doesn't take into account that had they run it (and not let so much time off the clock before doing so), Belichick is very likely to take a TO himself, thus eliminating one of your main concerns. There was also the possibility that Belichick decides to let them run it in (again, if they don't let so much time run down). Clock management was bad all around, but Belichick said he could've seen taking the TO if they ran again. This must've been a thought for the Seahawks given the hoodie's track record.

Was it the worst call in NFL history? Who the hell knows. It just wasn't a very good one given the circumstances and personnel.

 

[T with T]

so 24 hrs later have you guys reached the conclusion that somebody should have done something differently?

There's no guarantee if something is done differently that works. Also if it's replayed with them doing the same thing it could have turned out differently. Because hindsight is 20/20 sure, I'd rather they have done literally anything differently. I'd rather them run off tackle with Sherman than that.

It's pretty easy to criticize when you already know the outcome. I'd rather not do that.

Exactly.

If Lynch gets stood up twice running into NE's Goal Line Defense, on Monday morning everyone is tearing Carroll & Company a new one for running into a wall, and wondering why they didn't get creative with the play calling.

There's more nuance to the decision than this. It's not as straightforward as run v. pass. There's also thinking about where you're going to throw and to whom: Lockette on a slant is not a high prercentage play by itself for the simple fact that he is not a precise route runner and, while blazingly fast, doesn't have great (or even very good) short area quickness. The knock on him coming out of college was basically this: slow off the line and shaky route runner; his 20 yard short shuttle was 4.19; he was basically a track guy trying to make it. Couple this with the fact that the play was called to the side of Browner, a player they know well and understand his strength is his strength and length, and whom also knows your players and plays as well as anyone. On top of that, the concept was so simple that an undrafted rookie DB could diagnose it and jump it like he was in the huddle. Not to take anything away from Butler, who made a better play.A pass may have well been the right call there, given that they burned a TO for no good reason before Marshawn's run. Pete's explanation of why they went pass is perfectly plausible, given that they only had one left; but even his perspective is skewed by the notion that they threw in reaction to the fact that New England came out of the TO in goal line. Not certain that letting the opposition dictate the play in that way is the best approach, but even if you believe the pass is to your advantage in that scenario, how can you not go play action at the very least or, better yet, read option with some minor wrinkle group concept there? Basically what we're left with is that the Seahawks coaching staff perceived an advantage but ran a play that was still obvious and had a fairly high chance for a turnover.

And that doesn't take into account that had they run it (and not let so much time off the clock before doing so), Belichick is very likely to take a TO himself, thus eliminating one of your main concerns. There was also the possibility that Belichick decides to let them run it in (again, if they don't let so much time run down). Clock management was bad all around, but Belichick said he would've seen the TO if they ran again. This must've been a thought for the Seahawks given the hoodie's track record.

Was it the worst call in NFL history? Who the hell knows. It just wasn't a very good one given the circumstances and personnel.

well that's truly obvious and anyone trying to deny that is delusional or naive. That's why I believe that's obviously a tank job as no NFL coach using his right judgment would make the call to throw the ball in traffic. Run with lynch or a rollout or a fade to Matthews where he can go up and get it is less risky then throwing toward middle of field to a player that has 3 guys on him in the most Cluttered area of the field....

 

[Raider Nation]

Point is... I question the play call too but the monday morning QB'ing is out of hand.

You think it's bad here, you should try going to the grocery store in Seattle right now. I was in Costco yesterday, and seemingly everyone was talking about it in line. I'd guess that roughly 75% of people in Seattle think they know more about football than Pete Carroll right now.

I'll bet all of them would have given the ball to Lynch.

 

[msudaisy26]

Not doubting the NFL as top notch Entertainment but here's a cool little snippet I found to help explain at least the tip of the iceberg.... Everyone gets upset when they find out it's fixed, I don't know why, It's entertainment and either way fixed or not it's still super entertaining and that's all that Matters...

The fix is in by BrianTouhy is also awesome information about this topic. Don't be scared fellow footballers Brady is near to save the day and win another Super Bowl

How can something be top notch entertainment if it is fixed? If it was fixed wouldn't have Peyton beaten the Seahawks last year to finish the greatest season in the history of the NFL by a quarterback? Wouldn't Brady have done the same in 2007?

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Brady & belichick killed Kennedy! Carroll gave Castro cancer!

 

[Wingnut]

the game was obviously thrown by Pete Carrol. No one is goin to make me believe that Caroll was trying to outsmart anyone or pull a fast one or any other nonsense you can think of. The fact he didn't run the ball their and had his qb throw the ball into traffic, one of the most congested areas on the field with the game on the line is beyond baffling and if that isn't proof this game was fixed by some Mobster boss, big wig, Nfl owner Etc????? don't know but that was super fishy and I think should have an ASTERISK along with the other 3. Brady has 4 but how many are legit?

And to answer your question, ALL OF THEM.

 

[12punch]

I'm waiting for ScottyDog to show up and eat some crow after his 38-10 Seattle prediction and his lack of respect for the Patriots. Too bad he probably won't post for months now.

This kind of reaction I don't get. Your team wins the Super Bowl, and the next day the thing you're the most excited about is rubbing the losing team's fans nose in it? Yikes.

Some guy in the Brady thread spent hours researching my old posts and authoring a tear-stained novella about me and my mean words about the Patriots. It's impossible for them to enjoy their team's success unless everyone else in the free world acknowledges their greatness. The inferiority complex of this team's fanbase really is staggering.

one person does not represent a fan base. people posting in this forum does not represent a fan base. That goes for all teams.

You haven't noticed a common "RESPECT US, DAMMIT!" theme among all Pats fans? Because I sure have.

So.....you've met all of them?

he hasn't met all of them but he's logged a lot of hours observing them

 

[sho nuff]

Rewatched some of this over the week so far and was a bit harsh in calling it boring.

I still don't think it was that clean of a game...but there were some incredibly exciting parts to it (end of the half...and from when Seattle started driving in the 3rd quarter).

Brady was precise in throwing and had to be since they had no real threat of a run game. I think what was "boring" about it was that it was mostly those short passes. But yeah, that is what Seattle is going to give you and the Pats took it.

I was more impressed by Edelman than anyone else for NE though. Seattle really had no answer for him and his quick moves.

Wilson...he made some big plays...but overall I don't think it was a great game for him (even before the INT).

It wasn't some classic by a QB...but a solid enough game that had his team in position to win late again.

I know its MMQBing...but can't see how anyone wouldn't question that call when you have Lynch.

NE, by not doing the conventional thing and taking a TO...actually created a bit more havoc for Seattle by making them move ahead without the other team taking a TO. Ive heard a former player talk about what happens when you get the ball in a goal to go situation and how things change mentally when you don't get in that first time and the clock is rolling.

Great finish to a good game...but I don't agree that the overall game was some all time classic.

 

[HellToupee]

So now Belichick hacked into Wilsons helmet mic and called the pass play

 

[Road Warriors]

So now Belichick hacked into Wilsons helmet mic and called the pass play

Actually, I'm mildly surprised this hasn't surfaced as a theory yet.

 

[T with T]

Point is... I question the play call too but the monday morning QB'ing is out of hand.

You think it's bad here, you should try going to the grocery store in Seattle right now. I was in Costco yesterday, and seemingly everyone was talking about it in line. I'd guess that roughly 75% of people in Seattle think they know more about football than Pete Carroll right now.

I'll bet all of them would have given the ball to Lynch.

the point is, if people at Costco are talking about how dumb it was and 99.99999 percent of the people would have handed the ball to lynch, doesn't it seem fishy that Carol has his qb throw a slant of all things on 2nd and goal with 2 time outs?? Let's think Rational here, don't be naive about it, they threw the game for some ungodknown reason but it's true, maybe to cement Brady's career and get him another ring. Kraft is super rich and definatly has some pull with the ELITE. I know the tinfoil hat jokes are gonna be a plenty but that doesn't bother me. It is always better to be a leader not a follower, just because the media tells you doesn't mean its true. Vegas is making money because they are successful at staging sporting events. That's why they say The stage is set for the super bowl because it is a play as you will. Scripted out.

 

[12punch]

Point is... I question the play call too but the monday morning QB'ing is out of hand.

You think it's bad here, you should try going to the grocery store in Seattle right now. I was in Costco yesterday, and seemingly everyone was talking about it in line. I'd guess that roughly 75% of people in Seattle think they know more about football than Pete Carroll right now.

I'll bet all of them would have given the ball to Lynch.

the point is, if people at Costco are talking about how dumb it was and 99.99999 percent of the people would have handed the ball to lynch, doesn't it seem fishy that Carol has his qb throw a slant of all things on 2nd and goal with 2 time outs?? Let's think Rational here, don't be naive about it, they threw the game for some ungodknown reason but it's true, maybe to cement Brady's career and get him another ring. Kraft is super rich and definatly has some pull with the ELITE. I know the tinfoil hat jokes are gonna be a plenty but that doesn't bother me. It is always better to be a leader not a follower, just because the media tells you doesn't mean its true. Vegas is making money because they are successful at staging sporting events. That's why they say The stage is set for the super bowl because it is a play as you will. Scripted out.

is it possible they had listening devices in the seahawks' cheese?

 

[Old Smiley]

Point is... I question the play call too but the monday morning QB'ing is out of hand.

You think it's bad here, you should try going to the grocery store in Seattle right now. I was in Costco yesterday, and seemingly everyone was talking about it in line. I'd guess that roughly 75% of people in Seattle think they know more about football than Pete Carroll right now.

I'll bet all of them would have given the ball to Lynch.

the point is, if people at Costco are talking about how dumb it was and 99.99999 percent of the people would have handed the ball to lynch, doesn't it seem fishy that Carol has his qb throw a slant of all things on 2nd and goal with 2 time outs?? Let's think Rational here, don't be naive about it, they threw the game for some ungodknown reason but it's true, maybe to cement Brady's career and get him another ring. Kraft is super rich and definatly has some pull with the ELITE. I know the tinfoil hat jokes are gonna be a plenty but that doesn't bother me. It is always better to be a leader not a follower, just because the media tells you doesn't mean its true. Vegas is making money because they are successful at staging sporting events. That's why they say The stage is set for the super bowl because it is a play as you will. Scripted out.

NotSureIfSerious.jpg

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

I think Seattle misses the playoffs next season

 

[ShamrockPride]

Not doubting the NFL as top notch Entertainment but here's a cool little snippet I found to help explain at least the tip of the iceberg.... Everyone gets upset when they find out it's fixed, I don't know why, It's entertainment and either way fixed or not it's still super entertaining and that's all that Matters...

The fix is in by BrianTouhy is also awesome information about this topic. Don't be scared fellow footballers Brady is near to save the day and win another Super Bowl

How can something be top notch entertainment if it is fixed?

Mmmm, probably the same way the WWE rakes in millions upon millions every year.

 

[12punch]

you trying to claim wrestling is fake?

 

[ShamrockPride]

I think Seattle misses the playoffs next season

I think Brady tears a rotator cuff next pre-season and Garoppolo leads the Pats to a 19-0 season.

See I can do it too.

 

[msudaisy26]

Not doubting the NFL as top notch Entertainment but here's a cool little snippet I found to help explain at least the tip of the iceberg.... Everyone gets upset when they find out it's fixed, I don't know why, It's entertainment and either way fixed or not it's still super entertaining and that's all that Matters...

The fix is in by BrianTouhy is also awesome information about this topic. Don't be scared fellow footballers Brady is near to save the day and win another Super Bowl

How can something be top notch entertainment if it is fixed?

Mmmm, probably the same way the WWE rakes in millions upon millions every year.

The Kardashians rake in millions every year too, doesn't mean it is top notch entertainment.

 

[Road Warriors]

you trying to claim wrestling is fake?

Noooo!!

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

I think Seattle misses the playoffs next season

I think Brady tears a rotator cuff next pre-season and Garoppolo leads the Pats to a 19-0 season.

See I can do it too.

They are in a tough division and have been in the last two SBs. They have three defensive starters having surgery and the way they lost on Sunday will linger with them. It isn't a knock as I think they are an excellent team but it is going to be tough for them.

 

[ROCKET]

I'm waiting for ScottyDog to show up and eat some crow after his 38-10 Seattle prediction and his lack of respect for the Patriots. Too bad he probably won't post for months now.

This kind of reaction I don't get. Your team wins the Super Bowl, and the next day the thing you're the most excited about is rubbing the losing team's fans nose in it? Yikes.

Some guy in the Brady thread spent hours researching my old posts and authoring a tear-stained novella about me and my mean words about the Patriots. It's impossible for them to enjoy their team's success unless everyone else in the free world acknowledges their greatness. The inferiority complex of this team's fanbase really is staggering.

one person does not represent a fan base. people posting in this forum does not represent a fan base. That goes for all teams.

You haven't noticed a common "RESPECT US, DAMMIT!" theme among all Pats fans? Because I sure have.

My favorite theme of theirs is when you straight up beat them in a debate, and they resort to something about Brady/BB or will do their signature , , or . Every time without exception. Whenever I'm scrolling through a thread and see one of those, I know it has at least a 50% chance of being a Pats fan. They're just like Yankee fans. When backed into a corner, "B-B-But....27 TITLES!"

Like this has ever happened.

 

[12punch]

well, you have to understand that to these 'guys' winning a 'debate' simply involves "CHEATERZCHEATERZCHEATERZ!!!!!!21323LOLOLOLLLOLOL"

 

[Neofight]

I think Seattle misses the playoffs next season

I think Brady tears a rotator cuff next pre-season and Garoppolo leads the Pats to a 19-0 season.See I can do it too.

They are in a tough division and have been in the last two SBs. They have three defensive starters having surgery and the way they lost on Sunday will linger with them. It isn't a knock as I think they are an excellent team but it is going to be tough for them.

For a team that already had a chip on its shoulder the loss should be extra motivation, particularly because they'll be looking for some redemption knowing they were limited this time. Sherman may not need surgery it appears, Earl's should be fairly straightforward and the wildcard is Kam. He'll need hip and possibly knee surgery. Hopefully he can bounce back at full speed by the season opener. The cumulative effects of playing in the Super Bowl two years in a row are great, but they are still a very young group. I think the more pressing issue is what to do about Maxwell. If they lose him to free agency they are left with Simon on the right side and he hasn't shown he is ready for a full time gig. If they can manage to keep Maxwell and sign a development prospect in FA and/or draft another nickel guy, they'll be fine in the secondary. I have a feeling, based on his post-game comments, that Maxwell wants to stay in Seattle if at all possible.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Hmmm...no posts from ITS for almost a week. That's weird.

Wonder if he's still president of the Russel Wilson Bandwagon Club?

 

[JIslander]

Fixed?!? Just a horrible call at the worse time. The end.

Maybe the Bills can challenge the Pats next year for the division so its no more a 2 games-> Superbowl cakewalk.

 

[HobbesAB]

you trying to claim wrestling is fake?

Noooo!!

I knew what was in that link before I even clicked on it. It never gets old.

 

[Run It Up]

Hmmm...no posts from ITS for almost a week. That's weird.

Wonder if he's still president of the Russel Wilson Bandwagon Club?

Give his butt time to recover

 

[devouredbychaos]

Fixed?!? Just a horrible call at the worse time. The end.

Maybe the Bills can challenge the Pats next year for the division so its no more a 2 games-> Superbowl cakewalk.

Buffalo needs to focus on getting a QB first.

Maybe you weren't paying attention either but the Pats schedule this year definitely wasn't a cakewalk.

 

[devouredbychaos]

Hmmm...no posts from ITS for almost a week. That's weird.

Wonder if he's still president of the Russel Wilson Bandwagon Club?

ITS and ScottyDog missing from action. Typical

 

[devouredbychaos]

NE can't stop the run and their offense lacks playmakers against a superior defense. Ravens proved it already, Seahawks will have a better game plan and better execution in two weeks. Is Julian Edleman going to go off on Sherman? No. Seahawks will push coverage to Gronk with strong LB play and Kam, and these average Amendolas will have to make plays.

Gonna be a long night.

This post makes me laugh

 

[GoFishTN]

Fixed?!? Just a horrible call at the worse time. The end.

Maybe the Bills can challenge the Pats next year for the division so its no more a 2 games-> Superbowl cakewalk.

Buffalo needs to focus on getting a QB first.

Maybe you weren't paying attention either but the Pats schedule this year definitely wasn't a cakewalk.

He's probably referring to the fact that they've been spotted at least four wins for over a decade because the division is so weak. No one else even breaks even in AFC East play since 2001. Makes it a little easier in playoff seeding.

 

[devouredbychaos]

Seattle is very vulnerable with their mediocre offense. And their D isn't what it was last year. The D simply can't carry them anymore. Wilson is what he is. A fantastic athlete & a so-so passer.

New England can certainly be beat, but in today's NFL, I'll take offense over defense any day. I think the Pats will likely win, but the teams are close enough it could go either way.

And their D isn't what it was last year. The D simply can't carry them anymore.LMAO first of all you don't start sentences with and, and second of all did you watch the game???? The D can't carry them WHAT??????? u serious bro... did you not see the 6 turnovers and the 2 goalline stands.... That game could have been over in the first half if not for the D. I hate to bash other posters because I believe we all make this thread amazing but that was the stupidest post I ever read... Number 1 d, gave up 15 points per game all year, one of the top 3 all time great Defenses up with the 85 Bears and 00 Ravens and your gonna sit their and say the D can't bail them out after they played their asses off and held Rogers under 200 and basically got the job done big time. Shots out to Russell Wilson, guy is a super competitor and he is an amazing person. 90 percent of the Qbs would have been out of the game after the Matthews blindside dirty hit.... Funny to me that if SUH did that the world would have stopped. Matthews puts a super dirty hit trying to knock the guy out and no one says a word, no penalty, nothing ...... If you go and watch that hit that was vicious and Im surprised Russell stayed in game and didn't have concussion.... I almost guarantee Wilson won that game for them with a concussion.... Baller, no other word to describe it, even after having a horrendous start. 27-21 Seattle Wins Back2Back superbowls and Russell goes on to beat the 2 greatest qbs in history in back2back years... DYNASTY, and I called it back in august :IBTL: :IBTL: :IBTL: :IBTL: . Hope you pats fans don't put to much money on your boy brady, 3/6 aint to shabby though... Russell 2/2

Dynasty my ###.

 

[JIslander]

Fixed?!? Just a horrible call at the worse time. The end.

Maybe the Bills can challenge the Pats next year for the division so its no more a 2 games-> Superbowl cakewalk.

Buffalo needs to focus on getting a QB first.

Maybe you weren't paying attention either but the Pats schedule this year definitely wasn't a cakewalk.

He's probably referring to the fact that they've been spotted at least four wins for over a decade because the division is so weak. No one else even breaks even in AFC East play since 2001. Makes it a little easier in playoff seeding.

yes

 

[Run It Up]

Regardless of what you're definition of weak is when referring to a division - they still have the best record against non-divisional opponents.

NE can't stop the run and their offense lacks playmakers against a superior defense. Ravens proved it already, Seahawks will have a better game plan and better execution in two weeks. Is Julian Edleman going to go off on Sherman? No. Seahawks will push coverage to Gronk with strong LB play and Kam, and these average Amendolas will have to make plays.

Gonna be a long night.

This post makes me laugh

My response to it on the 2nd page:

The Ravens proved it by literally letting the Pats just get 7 yards through the air at will. A problem the Seahawks will also have as long as NE can avoid their DB's jumping routes.

I'm not psychic, it was this obvious.

 

[12punch]

buffalo managed to beat us this year, which is more than I can say for seattle