****Super Bowl LIX - Kansas City 17-2 vs Philadelphia 17-3****(+1.5, 49.5) The Eagles are your 2024 Champions!!! (1 Viewer)

[modogg]

Against playoff teams . . .

PHI: 8-2, +7.9 point differential/gm, +27.2 yds/gm
KCC: 9-1, +5.4 point differential/gm, +0.8 yds/gm (not including Week 18 vs. DEN)

If we're excluding the DEN game from your calculations, I'd like to exclude the 2nd WAS game as well since Hurts got injured on the 11th play. So effectively, he didn't play the final 3.5 quarters.

Knock yourself out. The Chiefs didn’t play any starters, had nothing to play for, and made no effort to win. If you want to compare those as similar situations, have at it. WAS had 5 turnovers and still won.

Don't bother. They're doing this on purpose.

This is totally obnoxious, this thread. It's like every other Philadelphia thread. Man, I hope the Chiefs are up to it. So many salty ham tears around here for a team that managed to slip by with an easy schedule in a lousy conference.

Wait...what? Eagles easily handled both Pittsburgh and Baltimore. Was far from an "easy schedule"

You can add the undefeated Saints after they beat Cowboys by 30+, without AJ and some other pieces. The Bengals game was also when the Bengals began turning things around. Easiest schedules are always so funny to me, most have no idea what they are even looking at. Take for example (these are hypothetical):

Going into these games let's say each is at the .500 for strength of schedule. Next 3 games:

Eagles beat Giants 35-7
Eagles beat Bengals 34-14
Eagles beat Falcons 28-7

So after a few game schedule, Eagles all of a sudden have the easiest strength of schedule because they waxed the teams they beat. The 3 losers fall more into a tougher schedule because the Eagles won these 3 games.

TLDR: strength of schedule is a fun thing to look at, but it is like grades for draft picks immediately after the draft. More of a fun entertaining activity, but doesn't hold a ton of weight on the surface

 

[Terpman22]

If you're Kansas City's defense, you almost have to go with a zone coverage. Man-to-man might work against other offenses that don't boast weapons like Goedert, Smith, Brown, and Barkley. In the last Superbowl, I felt Jalen outperformed Patrick. The Eagles' run game, minus Jalen, was lackluster, and that fumble recovery for a touchdown was particularly painful. This year, the Eagles will likely pressure Patrick more effectively, given there were no sacks in the previous game. At times, Philly has been dominating with their running game, but their passing attack can be equally lethal. Running touchdowns tend to be safer to score, in my opinion.

Lot of things happened in the last Super Bowl that were not in our favor. Part of that was Miles Sanders literally breaking his hand on one of, if not THE first play of the game.

With regards to Spags, he's gonna do what he does. He disguises stuff really really well, but it ends up being man/blitz most of the time.

 

[modogg]

think this year's Eagles team is batter than that 2022 team and I think KC's team is worse. We have to finish the job this year.

I agree with this. If I look at your starting 22 vs the Chiefs starting 22 the Eagles have the edge overall other than at QB.

The difference in this game will be a couple of things, as they always are:

1. Coaching
2. Turnovers

These teams are so close overall. Should be a good one.

Yeah I would rank turnovers as #1. No matter how the game goes, I have a hard team seeing either team ahead by double digits for more than a couple of minutes throughout the game.

 

[modogg]

So, with BG officially off IR and open to practice- what kind offimpact do people see him having?

Does Huff see the field at all? Does Nolan give up snaps?

I can't imagine him seeing a lot of snaps. He hasn't played in 2 months and obviously won't be 100%. Maybe just situational pass rusher? Huff won't sniff the field.

If BG dresses I’d think that Huff would not. You can’t just add BG. Someone has to be replaced.

I was going to say that, but then thought no in case BG can't finish or pushes too far, wouldn't want to be thin there.

That’s going to be the analysis. Can BG go more than 10 snaps if need be. Personally, I’d bet my mortgage that he suits up.

There is zero way on earth they opened his practice window and he is NOT dressing. Just for the emotional boost to the young defense alone...and *if* he can actually be productive....

Agreed. My guess is we see BG for like 8-10 snaps during the game.

 

[modogg]

This does not inspire confidence

So, I was curious about Vic’s record against Big Red. Not looking so good for Philly. Different teams, different times, etc. but Andy will exploit the holes in that zone, especially with the resurgence that their WRs have had late.

Yeah, this is kind of the elephant in the room that people haven't thought of much (I also don't watch much analysis on TV about this).

You make a very good point here.

If the question is who do I have more faith in, Fangio, or Jonathan "already one foot out the door" Gannon, I am happy to have my money on Fangio even with that 0-8 record.

 

[Terpman22]

This does not inspire confidence

So, I was curious about Vic’s record against Big Red. Not looking so good for Philly. Different teams, different times, etc. but Andy will exploit the holes in that zone, especially with the resurgence that their WRs have had late.

Yeah, this is kind of the elephant in the room that people haven't thought of much (I also don't watch much analysis on TV about this).

You make a very good point here.

If the question is who do I have more faith in, Fangio, or Jonathan "already one foot out the door" Gannon, I am happy to have my money on Fangio even with that 0-8 record.

Yeah ya know I'm just kinda looking thru the stats and team rankings of this team, the 2022 team, and that 2020 TB team. That TB team was 21st in pass Defense, but 1st against the run, 3rd in pressure rating, 5th in sacks.

This team vs 2022 Eagles its wildly different - 15th in sacks and 28th in pressure rating. Both are/were #1 against the pass, just different how it was achieved. 1st overall this year, 3rd overall in 2022. We are a bit better overall this year IMO, since we are also 10th ranked against the run this year, and we were showing signs of being susceptible to the run in 2022 with the 17th ranked run D, and that was certainly exploited in SB52.

Just feel its going to be much much different as far as our defensive performance this go round.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Chiefs have no chance:

Saquan birthday + DeJean birthday + Graham comeback > Kelce's mook haircut

Love the reverse psychology method you are using here.

 

[unckeyherb]

This does not inspire confidence

So, I was curious about Vic’s record against Big Red. Not looking so good for Philly. Different teams, different times, etc. but Andy will exploit the holes in that zone, especially with the resurgence that their WRs have had late.

Yeah, this is kind of the elephant in the room that people haven't thought of much (I also don't watch much analysis on TV about this).

You make a very good point here.

If the question is who do I have more faith in, Fangio, or Jonathan "already one foot out the door" Gannon, I am happy to have my money on Fangio even with that 0-8 record.

Yeah ya know I'm just kinda looking thru the stats and team rankings of this team, the 2022 team, and that 2020 TB team. That TB team was 21st in pass Defense, but 1st against the run, 3rd in pressure rating, 5th in sacks.

This team vs 2022 Eagles its wildly different - 15th in sacks and 28th in pressure rating. Both are/were #1 against the pass, just different how it was achieved. 1st overall this year, 3rd overall in 2022. We are a bit better overall this year IMO, since we are also 10th ranked against the run this year, and we were showing signs of being susceptible to the run in 2022 with the 17th ranked run D, and that was certainly exploited in SB52.

Just feel its going to be much much different as far as our defensive performance this go round.

I posted earlier but the only area of “deficiency” this defense has versus the ‘22 team is pass rush and specifically edge rushers. They almost set the record for sacks that year. Thing is, with the field conditions, that element of the defense was completely nullified.

This team has better middle Dline play, better LBers, better defensive backfield and better coaching/scheme.

 

[Chemical X]

i’m in a €300 box pool. i just want whatever score makes me win.

 

[Terpman22]

This does not inspire confidence

So, I was curious about Vic’s record against Big Red. Not looking so good for Philly. Different teams, different times, etc. but Andy will exploit the holes in that zone, especially with the resurgence that their WRs have had late.

Yeah, this is kind of the elephant in the room that people haven't thought of much (I also don't watch much analysis on TV about this).

You make a very good point here.

If the question is who do I have more faith in, Fangio, or Jonathan "already one foot out the door" Gannon, I am happy to have my money on Fangio even with that 0-8 record.

Yeah ya know I'm just kinda looking thru the stats and team rankings of this team, the 2022 team, and that 2020 TB team. That TB team was 21st in pass Defense, but 1st against the run, 3rd in pressure rating, 5th in sacks.

This team vs 2022 Eagles its wildly different - 15th in sacks and 28th in pressure rating. Both are/were #1 against the pass, just different how it was achieved. 1st overall this year, 3rd overall in 2022. We are a bit better overall this year IMO, since we are also 10th ranked against the run this year, and we were showing signs of being susceptible to the run in 2022 with the 17th ranked run D, and that was certainly exploited in SB52.

Just feel its going to be much much different as far as our defensive performance this go round.

I posted earlier but the only area of “deficiency” this defense has versus the ‘22 team is pass rush and specifically edge rushers. They almost set the record for sacks that year. Thing is, with the field conditions, that element of the defense was completely nullified.

This team has better middle Dline play, better LBers, better defensive backfield and better coaching/scheme.

Agree, I like it overall better than 2022. The LB play and CB play, to me, are superior this year. And as great as Fletch is/was - Carter THIS year oh boy, is he an animal. Its going to take a great effort from the DT's to get Mahomes out of the pocket - I feel we have superior team speed on defense to close him out this year, compared to that 2022 team as well.

 

[IHEARTFF]

I thought this at risk write up would be more insightful, but both teams have a lot of strength on strength. If the coin toss winner defers and gets a stop, even something like that can be important. Turnovers likely to be hugely impactful in a matchup like this.

Chiefs will be at risk
When Eagles offense has 1st down success and can easily run or pass like short yardage situations
When KC offense is in obvious passing situations (3rd and long)
Playing from behind 2nd half where Saquon is primary clock killer

Eagles will be at risk
When Mahomes picks apart the zone and can either run or pass like short yardage situations
When KC tackles well on early downs and Phi offense is in obvious passing situations
Playing from behind 2nd half when Saquon is less of a dominant factor
Every special teams play

I think KC has more ways they can win this game than Philly does and ultimately they deliver the NLF first 3-peat. I am not so sure the over hits, so I am thinking KC 26, Phi 21.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Saquan Barkley’s 2024-25 playoff run is 7th on the all-time rushing list. With 442 yards, he needs only 5 yards to pass Derrick Henry for the most postseason rushing yards this century. He needs 27 yards to move into 3rd place.

Terrell Davis (1997 - 581) and John Riggins (1982 - 610) top the leaderboard.

 

[Deamon]

This does not inspire confidence

So, I was curious about Vic’s record against Big Red. Not looking so good for Philly. Different teams, different times, etc. but Andy will exploit the holes in that zone, especially with the resurgence that their WRs have had late.

Yeah, this is kind of the elephant in the room that people haven't thought of much (I also don't watch much analysis on TV about this).

You make a very good point here.

If the question is who do I have more faith in, Fangio, or Jonathan "already one foot out the door" Gannon, I am happy to have my money on Fangio even with that 0-8 record.

am worried about 'already one foot out the door Kellen"

Gannon just stayed in Arizona after that SB loss.... would Kellen just stay in New Orleans?

 

[cheese]

I think people will overreact to the Eagles dominance yesterday. The Skins came off a brutally physical game with the Lions. People forget if Jalen Carter doesn't make that great sack on Stafford the Rams likely were beating them, as replays showed Higbey wide open but Stafford couldn't see him. The Chiefs are much better than the Rams and Redskins. I'll take Reid over Sirianni and Moore and I'll take Spags over Fangio. And Mahomes over Hurts. Yes, they have to limit Barkley but betting they can.

Re: the Bolded - what would you consider "limiting" Barkley aka a successful day at the office in this scenario you are referring to, just curious?

You weren't asking me, but I'll give you my 2 cents. The key against KC is not having empty possessions. Like almost any, ever. People always think their defense is good enough to matter against KC, but years and years tell you nobody's is. So about Barkley.... The Chiefs goal will be to have at least a few drives where they stuff him and cause a bad down and distance. Even if he has explosive runs and has 170 yards, they will hope they have 2-3 drives where they stop him on early downs and cause a 3rd and 9.

If you want me to quantify it, I will say the Chiefs want Barkley to have about 6 runs of 2 yards or less in the first 3 quarters. They want to create 4-5 3rd downs of 3rd and 6 or longer which is related to that first part. They want to force 3 punts. If they can do that, they put the game in Mahomes hands.

I don't think KC is unbeatable, but I think it would have to be a shootout. You either score 40 points, or you score 35 while controlling the ball and limiting possessions, or you lose. If you do anything less, you won't get enough stops and then they will put the game to sleep with first downs and ball control.

The scary part for me if I’m a Chiefs fan is that if the Eagles are anywhere near midfield and at around 3rd and 6 or better, it’s 4 down territory. And last week we see how good Jalen is at converting on 3rd and 4th downs. When Jalen is playing like that, I actually don’t think this offense is even stoppable. Reid and the KC offense need to be super aggressive from the get go. What the hell was Washington thinking kicking a FG at the end of that first, long drive? Sealed their fate with that decision.

And then there is the Eagles defense……

Agree with you that the 4th down decisions are part of what makes the Eagles scary. Spags is going to absolutely send the house on these key downs and they're going to gamble everywhere defensively. Hurts is probably going to have to make some big plays. I'm talking about 60 yard TD passes on 3rd and 4. Anticipate... throw guys open.... take some chances.

 

[Snotbubbles]

I thought this at risk write up would be more insightful, but both teams have a lot of strength on strength. If the coin toss winner defers and gets a stop, even something like that can be important. Turnovers likely to be hugely impactful in a matchup like this.

Chiefs will be at risk
When Eagles offense has 1st down success and can easily run or pass like short yardage situations
When KC offense is in obvious passing situations (3rd and long)
Playing from behind 2nd half where Saquon is primary clock killer

Eagles will be at risk
When Mahomes picks apart the zone and can either run or pass like short yardage situations
When KC tackles well on early downs and Phi offense is in obvious passing situations
Playing from behind 2nd half when Saquon is less of a dominant factor
Every special teams play

I think KC has more ways they can win this game than Philly does and ultimately they deliver the NLF first 3-peat. I am not so sure the over hits, so I am thinking KC 26, Phi 21.

Don't think I agree with this. The Chiefs way to victory is Patrick Mahomes needs to be the MVP. Anything short of that, the Chiefs lose.

 

[modogg]

This does not inspire confidence

So, I was curious about Vic’s record against Big Red. Not looking so good for Philly. Different teams, different times, etc. but Andy will exploit the holes in that zone, especially with the resurgence that their WRs have had late.

Yeah, this is kind of the elephant in the room that people haven't thought of much (I also don't watch much analysis on TV about this).

You make a very good point here.

If the question is who do I have more faith in, Fangio, or Jonathan "already one foot out the door" Gannon, I am happy to have my money on Fangio even with that 0-8 record.

am worried about 'already one foot out the door Kellen"

Gannon just stayed in Arizona after that SB loss.... would Kellen just stay in New Orleans?

50/50. Kind of hope not, but would love to get another higher pick from the Saints for shenanigans

 

[kylechoffman]

I thought this at risk write up would be more insightful, but both teams have a lot of strength on strength. If the coin toss winner defers and gets a stop, even something like that can be important. Turnovers likely to be hugely impactful in a matchup like this.

Chiefs will be at risk
When Eagles offense has 1st down success and can easily run or pass like short yardage situations
When KC offense is in obvious passing situations (3rd and long)
Playing from behind 2nd half where Saquon is primary clock killer

Eagles will be at risk
When Mahomes picks apart the zone and can either run or pass like short yardage situations
When KC tackles well on early downs and Phi offense is in obvious passing situations
Playing from behind 2nd half when Saquon is less of a dominant factor
Every special teams play

I think KC has more ways they can win this game than Philly does and ultimately they deliver the NLF first 3-peat. I am not so sure the over hits, so I am thinking KC 26, Phi 21.

Regarding the playing from behind comment: As long as the Eagles don't abandon the run like Buffalo did, even if they are down, they should be fine. Buffalo was down to begin the third quarter, made a stop and then ran the ball 11-of-12 plays before punching it in with Cook and taking the lead. Birds need to stick to the run to be successful.

 

[IHEARTFF]

I thought this at risk write up would be more insightful, but both teams have a lot of strength on strength. If the coin toss winner defers and gets a stop, even something like that can be important. Turnovers likely to be hugely impactful in a matchup like this.

Chiefs will be at risk
When Eagles offense has 1st down success and can easily run or pass like short yardage situations
When KC offense is in obvious passing situations (3rd and long)
Playing from behind 2nd half where Saquon is primary clock killer

Eagles will be at risk
When Mahomes picks apart the zone and can either run or pass like short yardage situations
When KC tackles well on early downs and Phi offense is in obvious passing situations
Playing from behind 2nd half when Saquon is less of a dominant factor
Every special teams play

I think KC has more ways they can win this game than Philly does and ultimately they deliver the NLF first 3-peat. I am not so sure the over hits, so I am thinking KC 26, Phi 21.

Regarding the playing from behind comment: As long as the Eagles don't abandon the run like Buffalo did, even if they are down, they should be fine. Buffalo was down to begin the third quarter, made a stop and then ran the ball 11-of-12 plays before punching it in with Cook and taking the lead. Birds need to stick to the run to be successful.

Maybe so. If they're behind, it may also be in part because the run is not as effective as usual. Unless they're down 2+ scores, they probably should stick with the run, though.

 

[unckeyherb]

I thought this at risk write up would be more insightful, but both teams have a lot of strength on strength. If the coin toss winner defers and gets a stop, even something like that can be important. Turnovers likely to be hugely impactful in a matchup like this.

Chiefs will be at risk
When Eagles offense has 1st down success and can easily run or pass like short yardage situations
When KC offense is in obvious passing situations (3rd and long)
Playing from behind 2nd half where Saquon is primary clock killer

Eagles will be at risk
When Mahomes picks apart the zone and can either run or pass like short yardage situations
When KC tackles well on early downs and Phi offense is in obvious passing situations
Playing from behind 2nd half when Saquon is less of a dominant factor
Every special teams play

I think KC has more ways they can win this game than Philly does and ultimately they deliver the NLF first 3-peat. I am not so sure the over hits, so I am thinking KC 26, Phi 21.

I generally think this is pretty spot on. A couple of points that I'd pick a nit or two...

Playing from behind 2nd half when Saquon is less of a dominant factor.

I don't think they'd stop running Saquon like in previous years with Miles. He is such a homerun hitter that he can swing the points in one play. They know where their bread is buttered and go-forbid after the season he's had, if they abandon the run after going down on the scoreboard and lose, I'd recommend that none of the coaching staff return to the 215 area code.

Every special teams play

What makes you say this? Genuinely just interested-is there much daylight between the two teams' ST units? If you are just comparing kickers, I'll concede we have a guy that puckers everyone's sphincters when he lines up for an xp let alone a 48 yard FG.

Turnovers likely to be hugely impactful in a matchup like this.

This is correct. I've repeated this ad nauseum, but when Jalen Hurts doesn't turn the ball over and AJ Brown plays, the Eagles basically never lose. Defensively, this is maybe the best unit I've ever seen from the Eagles. They are ranked #1 overall, #1 in passing defense, #2 in scoring defense, top 10 in rushing defense and top 3 in RZ and third down defense. They are middle of the pack in Interceptions-although I feel like they really didn't get many early in the year and they've been grabbing a lot of them recently. Where they really excel is forcing and recovering fumbles. They are ranked #1 with 22 FF. If you watch them they just swarm the ball. Last week on the fumbles, there's the ball carrier in the camera view and like, 5 Eagles swarming him.

I agree that turnovers might be the difference (not unlike the last time these two met in the SB). I'm very worried that Spags will throw a ton of blitzes at Jalen and Jalen will revert back to scramble mode and fumble. I'm not super concerned about Jalen throwing a pick as he really hasn't done that much since the TB game in week 4.

 

[IHEARTFF]

I thought this at risk write up would be more insightful, but both teams have a lot of strength on strength. If the coin toss winner defers and gets a stop, even something like that can be important. Turnovers likely to be hugely impactful in a matchup like this.

Chiefs will be at risk
When Eagles offense has 1st down success and can easily run or pass like short yardage situations
When KC offense is in obvious passing situations (3rd and long)
Playing from behind 2nd half where Saquon is primary clock killer

Eagles will be at risk
When Mahomes picks apart the zone and can either run or pass like short yardage situations
When KC tackles well on early downs and Phi offense is in obvious passing situations
Playing from behind 2nd half when Saquon is less of a dominant factor
Every special teams play

I think KC has more ways they can win this game than Philly does and ultimately they deliver the NLF first 3-peat. I am not so sure the over hits, so I am thinking KC 26, Phi 21.

Don't think I agree with this. The Chiefs way to victory is Patrick Mahomes needs to be the MVP. Anything short of that, the Chiefs lose.

Oh he'll be the MVP if they win.

I thought this at risk write up would be more insightful, but both teams have a lot of strength on strength. If the coin toss winner defers and gets a stop, even something like that can be important. Turnovers likely to be hugely impactful in a matchup like this.

Chiefs will be at risk
When Eagles offense has 1st down success and can easily run or pass like short yardage situations
When KC offense is in obvious passing situations (3rd and long)
Playing from behind 2nd half where Saquon is primary clock killer

Eagles will be at risk
When Mahomes picks apart the zone and can either run or pass like short yardage situations
When KC tackles well on early downs and Phi offense is in obvious passing situations
Playing from behind 2nd half when Saquon is less of a dominant factor
Every special teams play

I think KC has more ways they can win this game than Philly does and ultimately they deliver the NLF first 3-peat. I am not so sure the over hits, so I am thinking KC 26, Phi 21.

I generally think this is pretty spot on. A couple of points that I'd pick a nit or two...

Playing from behind 2nd half when Saquon is less of a dominant factor.

I don't think they'd stop running Saquon like in previous years with Miles. He is such a homerun hitter that he can swing the points in one play. They know where their bread is buttered and go-forbid after the season he's had, if they abandon the run after going down on the scoreboard and lose, I'd recommend that none of the coaching staff return to the 215 area code.

Every special teams play

What makes you say this? Genuinely just interested-is there much daylight between the two teams' ST units? If you are just comparing kickers, I'll concede we have a guy that puckers everyone's sphincters when he lines up for an xp let alone a 48 yard FG.

Turnovers likely to be hugely impactful in a matchup like this.

This is correct. I've repeated this ad nauseum, but when Jalen Hurts doesn't turn the ball over and AJ Brown plays, the Eagles basically never lose. Defensively, this is maybe the best unit I've ever seen from the Eagles. They are ranked #1 overall, #1 in passing defense, #2 in scoring defense, top 10 in rushing defense and top 3 in RZ and third down defense. They are middle of the pack in Interceptions-although I feel like they really didn't get many early in the year and they've been grabbing a lot of them recently. Where they really excel is forcing and recovering fumbles. They are ranked #1 with 22 FF. If you watch them they just swarm the ball. Last week on the fumbles, there's the ball carrier in the camera view and like, 5 Eagles swarming him.

I agree that turnovers might be the difference (not unlike the last time these two met in the SB). I'm very worried that Spags will throw a ton of blitzes at Jalen and Jalen will revert back to scramble mode and fumble. I'm not super concerned about Jalen throwing a pick as he really hasn't done that much since the TB game in week 4.

I may be overstating the special teams edge, but KC definitely wins a FG battle. Also they have a great return man, great punter, and they have blocked a few FG. Maybe Philly is competent in those areas, but I believe KC emphasizes special teams more than most teams do.

 

[JohnnyU]

200 yards rushing by Barkley and a 2 to 1 edge in time of possession by the Eagles.

 

[Deamon]

This does not inspire confidence

So, I was curious about Vic’s record against Big Red. Not looking so good for Philly. Different teams, different times, etc. but Andy will exploit the holes in that zone, especially with the resurgence that their WRs have had late.

Yeah, this is kind of the elephant in the room that people haven't thought of much (I also don't watch much analysis on TV about this).

You make a very good point here.

If the question is who do I have more faith in, Fangio, or Jonathan "already one foot out the door" Gannon, I am happy to have my money on Fangio even with that 0-8 record.

am worried about 'already one foot out the door Kellen"

Gannon just stayed in Arizona after that SB loss.... would Kellen just stay in New Orleans?

50/50. Kind of hope not, but would love to get another higher pick from the Saints for shenanigans

I don't think they really did anything wrong, I think the interviews were allowed this week

 

[unckeyherb]

If the Chiefs need 16 points to win, they score 16. If they need 32 points, they score 32. If the Eagles are going to win this game they have to jump out early, stay aggressive and stack TDs. FGs aren’t going to cut it and the Chiefs just aren’t going to lose a close one.
Open question to eagles fans- which would you want at the end of the game?

Up 4 points with our defense on the field to close out the game?

Down 4 points with the ball in Jalen’s hands?

Last Super Bowl I remember being so mad about the BS call on Bradbury because I was certain that if they kicked the FG there and gave the ball back with +\- 1:45 left, Jalen was absolutely going to score a TD. I’d have bet the farm on it. This year, I think I’d prefer putting the ball in Mahomes’ hands and relying on the defense. Which just feels so counter intuitive. Both as someone who knows what Mahomes can do as well as an Eagles fan who has seen our defense let us down at the end of games so many times (albeit not this year).

 

[ProstheticRGK]

If the Chiefs need 16 points to win, they score 16. If they need 32 points, they score 32. If the Eagles are going to win this game they have to jump out early, stay aggressive and stack TDs. FGs aren’t going to cut it and the Chiefs just aren’t going to lose a close one.
Open question to eagles fans- which would you want at the end of the game?

Up 4 points with our defense on the field to close out the game?

Down 4 points with the ball in Jalen’s hands?

Last Super Bowl I remember being so mad about the BS call on Bradbury because I was certain that if they kicked the FG there and gave the ball back with +\- 1:45 left, Jalen was absolutely going to score a TD. I’d have bet the farm on it. This year, I think I’d prefer putting the ball in Mahomes’ hands and relying on the defense. Which just feels so counter intuitive. Both as someone who knows what Mahomes can do as well as an Eagles fan who has seen our defense let us down at the end of games so many times (albeit not this year).

I want neither. I want Philly to be up by 2 scores going into the 4-minute drill and I’ll still be puckering.

Mahomes is not a QB. Dude is a magician. He pulls crap out of his hat like David Copperfield. And Andy always has some crazy plays nobody has seen that he has been saving for big time situations.

I think the D can stop them. I have a lot of faith in Vic to scheme them up. No prevent D. at all. PERIOD. Aggressive pressure up until the final whistle. But if we’re up only 4 pts with 1:30+ left? I’m gonna be tempted to live bet the Chiefs because they’re almost inevitable.

Jalen is a winner. He has that ‘it’ factor that makes him shine in big time situations. Jalen having to out the team on his back in the 2-minute drill against a Spags Defense makes my stomach hurt, though.

 

[JohnnyU]

Three things I don't care about the Super Bowl. I don't care about the hoopla leading up to it and the personalities tied to that hoopla. I couldn’t care less about interviews with the family or girlfriends of players. I don't care about the commercials and I don't care about the halftime show.

Edit - I do remember Curt Gowdy sitting down with Joe Namath to discuss Super Bowl V between the Cowboys and Colts and ask him to put himself in the shoes of each team in how he would beat the other team. I don’t remember his exact responses, but it is available on a recording I have. I just remember how good it was and made sense. Gowdy then asked Namath for a prediction and he said, “ Baltimore will win by a FG. I can’t guarantee it, but that’s what I think will happen.”. Colts - 16, Cowboys -13. Those were the types of interviews I like. I remember that game so vividly. I was 11. It was a horribly played game by both teams with 11 turnovers, 7 by the Colts. The Colts defense bent but didn’t break and Mike Curtis made the big interception that was the difference. SB V is still the only SB where a member of the losing team won MVP (Chuck Howley).

 

[Deamon]

Three things I don't care about the Super Bowl. I don't care about the hoopla leading up to it and the personalities tied to that hoopla. I couldn’t care less about interviews with the family or girlfriends of players. I don't care about the commercials and I don't care about the halftime show.

That's 4 things.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Three things I don't care about the Super Bowl. I don't care about the hoopla leading up to it and the personalities tied to that hoopla. I couldn’t care less about interviews with the family or girlfriends of players. I don't care about the commercials and I don't care about the halftime show.

That's 4 things.

Namath's hair probably distracted him.

"Lookit them sideburns! He looks like a girl!"

 

[JohnnyU]

Three things I don't care about the Super Bowl. I don't care about the hoopla leading up to it and the personalities tied to that hoopla. I couldn’t care less about interviews with the family or girlfriends of players. I don't care about the commercials and I don't care about the halftime show.

That's 4 things.

Not really. The pregame hoopla includes the silly interviews with mom, brother, or girlfriend.

 

[Insein]

7 more days until football.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Three things I don't care about the Super Bowl. I don't care about the hoopla leading up to it and the personalities tied to that hoopla. I couldn’t care less about interviews with the family or girlfriends of players. I don't care about the commercials and I don't care about the halftime show.

That's 4 things.

Not really. The pregame hoopla includes the silly interviews with mom, brother, or girlfriend.

It seems more like five things, if you consider pre-game hoopla, interviews with wives and interviews with girlfriends to be three separate items to not care about. Now that you've added interviews with brothers, I think its become six things you don't care about.

 

[ChiefD]

Three things I don't care about the Super Bowl. I don't care about the hoopla leading up to it and the personalities tied to that hoopla. I couldn’t care less about interviews with the family or girlfriends of players. I don't care about the commercials and I don't care about the halftime show.

That's 4 things.

Not really. The pregame hoopla includes the silly interviews with mom, brother, or girlfriend.

It seems more like five things, if you consider pre-game hoopla, interviews with wives and interviews with girlfriends to be three separate items to not care about. Now that you've added interviews with brothers, I think its become six things you don't care about.

Don’t forget about how many times #74 is going to leave early on the snap.

 

[JohnnyU]

Three things I don't care about the Super Bowl. I don't care about the hoopla leading up to it and the personalities tied to that hoopla. I couldn’t care less about interviews with the family or girlfriends of players. I don't care about the commercials and I don't care about the halftime show.

That's 4 things.

Not really. The pregame hoopla includes the silly interviews with mom, brother, or girlfriend.

It seems more like five things, if you consider pre-game hoopla, interviews with wives and interviews with girlfriends to be three separate items to not care about. Now that you've added interviews with brothers, I think its become six things you don't care about.

alrighty then
-Ace Ventura

 

[TheAristocrat]

It's been widely underreported this week but Jake Elliott has been nailing the posts from 50 yards and should be good for a doink from within 55

 

[BobbyLayne]

Why the Chiefs?

In 1963, the Dallas Texans became the second AFL team to relocate (after the 1960 season, the LA Chargers had moved to San Diego.) Owner Lamar Hunt felt that despite winning the league championship in 1962, the Texans could not sufficiently profit in the same market as the Dallas Cowboys, which entered the rival NFL as an expansion franchise in 1960.

After meetings with New Orleans, Atlanta, and Miami, Hunt announced on May 22 that the Texans' new home would be Kansas City, Missouri. Kansas City mayor Harold Roe Bartle (nicknamed "Chief") was instrumental in his city's success in attracting the team. Partly to honor Bartle, the franchise officially became the Kansas City Chiefs on May 26.

 

[Snotbubbles]

It's been widely underreported this week but Jake Elliott has been nailing the posts from 50 yards and should be good for a doink from within 55

Better than hitting it right down the middle from 55 and having it come up 7 yards short.

 

[TheAristocrat]

It's been widely underreported this week but Jake Elliott has been nailing the posts from 50 yards and should be good for a doink from within 55

Better than hitting it right down the middle from 55 and having it come up 7 yards short.

That's true. If you're going to miss, add some style and/or flair to it.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Saquon is the obvious key here. He needs a smash game or they lose. Just don't see how they can win if he is mediocre.

I have a hard time imagining him as mediocre though.

 

[JohnnyU]

I was going to boycott this game, but I can’t. The only Super Bowls I haven’t watched are 1 and 6.

 

[Snotbubbles]

I was going to boycott this game, but I can’t. The only Super Bowls I haven’t watched are 1 and 6.

Damn. Your so old your social security number is 000-00-0001.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Saquon is the obvious key here. He needs a smash game or they lose. Just don't see how they can win if he is mediocre.

I have a hard time imagining him as mediocre though.

Mixon went 18-88-1
Cook went 13-85-2

I expect either Barkley and/or Hurts to end the Chiefs streak of not allowing a 100 yard rusher. They should have close to 40 rush attempts in the game.

 

[BladeRunner]

Saquon is the obvious key here. He needs a smash game or they lose. Just don't see how they can win if he is mediocre.

Truth.

We don't know which Hurts will show up at any given instance and, frankly, he's good but not great. So Barkley it is.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Go Birds!!!!

 

[Stinkin Ref]

KC fan
I'm concerned about Brown/Smith/Goedert more than what has been posted in here
The defense has to be aggressive to stop Barkley which puts pressure on our coverage and those receivers are no joke
PHI dominates on 3rd and 4th and short....KC sucks....Mahomes injury against DEN on a sneak makes KC dependent on weird plays that often don't work
Can see KC having to punt more than PHI...that's a problem
A tipped pass....fumbled punt....
KC will not stop the tush push like they did against BUF
Have a feeling if either team has a 4th and 6 or less or a 40+ FG attempt....they will go for the first down....and that brings pick plays and def holding calls into the spotlight
QB scrambles will be huge
PHI talent wise 22 on 22 has the advantage.....big time...but KC has experience and poise and two weeks of coaching/gameplan
One "stop" either way could be a difference maker

I was somewhat nervous last year when we played MIA....didn't think we would beat BUF at BUF....didn't think we would beat BAL at BAL....felt a little better about the super bowl

PHI D is legit....their secondary may be the best KC has faced....all year....PHI offense is almost unstoppable if they don't make mistakes...or bad coaching decisions

PHI should win this....but KC showed me last year going on the road to BUF and BAL that they prepare and you can't count them out...head says PHI....heart says KC....heart wins

KC 30
PHI 27

 

[Lehigh98]

...or bad coaching decisions

Hoping to avoid having another Coordinator #### the bed vs KC in the SB on the way out the door.
Gannon's defense having no answer for those two wide open motion TD's killed us.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Go Birds!!!!

Great googly moogly

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Go Birds!!!!

Great googly moogly

I’m the guy Vegas pays to sit next to guys who are on a hot streak.

 

[unckeyherb]

Go Birds!!!!

Great googly moogly

I’m the guy Vegas pays to sit next to guys who are on a hot streak.

William H. Macy?

 

[unckeyherb]

...or bad coaching decisions

Hoping to avoid having another Coordinator #### the bed vs KC in the SB on the way out the door.
Gannon's defense having no answer for those two wide open motion TD's killed us.

I just forced myself to rewatch the game (first time since I watched live). Those two play were ****ing brutal

 

[Lehigh98]

...or bad coaching decisions

Hoping to avoid having another Coordinator #### the bed vs KC in the SB on the way out the door.
Gannon's defense having no answer for those two wide open motion TD's killed us.

I just forced myself to rewatch the game (first time since I watched live). Those two play were ****ing brutal

I still have not rewatched it... or 39 for that matter.
I've watched 52 about 100 times though.

 

[popeye]

Believe the KC run game will be key - can it keep them out of third and long? Philly needs to run run run run run run run run run run run. And then run.

Eagles 28
Swifts 24