TE Dalton Kincaid, BUF (5 Viewers)

[zamboni]

Seems like Buffalo hasn’t had a “normal” game yet

At some point one has to wonder if this is their normal game. They've basically given up 1 TD since the 2nd quarter of week 1. Defense looks great, and offense isn't turning it over.

Agreed. Also from an offensive standpoint, I think a lot of pre-season expectations were that Kincaid would be the de facto top target with a seemingly lackluster WR group. As discussed in the Josh Allen thread though, what has happened is that Josh is doing a great job of spreading the ball out and elevating the entire receiving group, not just Kincaid.

 

[LionOfGosforth]

Seems like Buffalo hasn’t had a “normal” game yet

At some point one has to wonder if this is their normal game. They've basically given up 1 TD since the 2nd quarter of week 1. Defense looks great, and offense isn't turning it over.

Agreed. Also from an offensive standpoint, I think a lot of pre-season expectations were that Kincaid would be the de facto top target with a seemingly lackluster WR group. As discussed in the Josh Allen thread though, what has happened is that Josh is doing a great job of spreading the ball out and elevating the entire receiving group, not just Kincaid.

And ultimately, in theory at least, that should help Kincaid. Nobody who has him on their team, wants to see him triple teamed like week 1 again. The other WRs doing their thing can only help overall.

 

[zamboni]

Seems like Buffalo hasn’t had a “normal” game yet

At some point one has to wonder if this is their normal game. They've basically given up 1 TD since the 2nd quarter of week 1. Defense looks great, and offense isn't turning it over.

Agreed. Also from an offensive standpoint, I think a lot of pre-season expectations were that Kincaid would be the de facto top target with a seemingly lackluster WR group. As discussed in the Josh Allen thread though, what has happened is that Josh is doing a great job of spreading the ball out and elevating the entire receiving group, not just Kincaid.

And ultimately, in theory at least, that should help Kincaid. Nobody who has him on their team, wants to see him triple teamed like week 1 again. The other WRs doing their thing can only help overall.

Perhaps, although not if he's throwing the ball 25-30 times as opposed to the 30-35+ times we were used to.

 

[kyoun1e]

Last night was encouraging. Caught a TD and was a target on another endzone pass.

Next couple of weeks will be interesting. BUF aint blowing out BALT, HOU and the NYJ.

 

[menobrown]

Last night was encouraging.

Not trying to be a downer but in a few ways also discouraging.

Realize they did not need to pass much but it's all relative and he was 6th on the team in routes run, trailing Knox. Was subbed out frequently when the game was still in doubt. Of course no one cares if he's subbed out in running plays, but it's more then that.

He's a TE1 IMO, solid option to roll out each week at a super weak looking spot right now. As was discussed last week the real killer is what you likely passed over to draft him, especially in FFPC/TEP type format.

 

[FarFromHome]

An abysmal 3 game start for sure. Big swing and miss for me. The tight end position as a hole is so bad he is actually 11th in scoring. Ha ha. 11 targets in 3 games, but that is 2nd on the team. Yuck. Allen is just seeing the field and playing the position so well right now. His elite play is resulting in a balanced target share to all players. Yuck. Something that is noticeable, the Bills haven't attacked the middle of the field much. They haven't had too. Kincaids skill set translates as a middle of the field game changer. I'm hoping defenses start to pick up what they are doing and force things to middle of field a bit. That should help Kincaid. Next three road games against three solid teams is gonna be interesting. He is a guy u can't sell low and can't take out of your lineup due to upside.

 

[kyoun1e]

An abysmal 3 game start for sure. Big swing and miss for me. The tight end position as a hole is so bad he is actually 11th in scoring. Ha ha. 11 targets in 3 games, but that is 2nd on the team. Yuck. Allen is just seeing the field and playing the position so well right now. His elite play is resulting in a balanced target share to all players. Yuck. Something that is noticeable, the Bills haven't attacked the middle of the field much. They haven't had too. Kincaids skill set translates as a middle of the field game changer. I'm hoping defenses start to pick up what they are doing and force things to middle of field a bit. That should help Kincaid. Next three road games against three solid teams is gonna be interesting. He is a guy u can't sell low and can't take out of your lineup due to upside.

Yeah I'm wondering why Kincaid isn't running seam routes? Everything I see is short and outside. It was refreshing to see him get loose on the deeper throw.

Hoping the upcoming stretch against tougher opponents changes things a bit. Thanksfully, everyone is suffering at TE.

 

[zamboni]

Last night was encouraging.

Not trying to be a downer but in a few ways also discouraging.

Realize they did not need to pass much but it's all relative and he was 6th on the team in routes run, trailing Knox. Was subbed out frequently when the game was still in doubt. Of course no one cares if he's subbed out in running plays, but it's more then that.

He's a TE1 IMO, solid option to roll out each week at a super weak looking spot right now. As was discussed last week the real killer is what you likely passed over to draft him, especially in FFPC/TEP type format.

A few fantasy experts I trust have often stated that true elite TEs tend to have 80+% route run participation and are no worse than the second pass catcher on their offense. For Kincaid, the second metric is debatable, albeit in a low passing volume offense right now, but he doesn't seem close to the first. It's still early, but the hype coming into the season is starting to look like that's all it was.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Last night was encouraging.

Not trying to be a downer but in a few ways also discouraging.

Realize they did not need to pass much but it's all relative and he was 6th on the team in routes run, trailing Knox. Was subbed out frequently when the game was still in doubt. Of course no one cares if he's subbed out in running plays, but it's more then that.

He's a TE1 IMO, solid option to roll out each week at a super weak looking spot right now. As was discussed last week the real killer is what you likely passed over to draft him, especially in FFPC/TEP type format.

A few fantasy experts I trust have often stated that true elite TEs tend to have 80+% route run participation and are no worse than the second pass catcher on their offense. For Kincaid, the second metric is debatable, albeit in a low passing volume offense right now, but he doesn't seem close to the first. It's still early, but the hype coming into the season is starting to look like that's all it was.

Is there a way to look up the first metric for both him and other TEs?

 

[zamboni]

Last night was encouraging.

Not trying to be a downer but in a few ways also discouraging.

Realize they did not need to pass much but it's all relative and he was 6th on the team in routes run, trailing Knox. Was subbed out frequently when the game was still in doubt. Of course no one cares if he's subbed out in running plays, but it's more then that.

He's a TE1 IMO, solid option to roll out each week at a super weak looking spot right now. As was discussed last week the real killer is what you likely passed over to draft him, especially in FFPC/TEP type format.

A few fantasy experts I trust have often stated that true elite TEs tend to have 80+% route run participation and are no worse than the second pass catcher on their offense. For Kincaid, the second metric is debatable, albeit in a low passing volume offense right now, but he doesn't seem close to the first. It's still early, but the hype coming into the season is starting to look like that's all it was.

Is there a way to look up the first metric for both him and other TEs?

PFF used to have them for free, but I believe it's premium/fee-based now.

I use @NFLPlayerSnaps on Twitter - it doesn't aggregate them, but provides game by game per team.

 

[jm192]

Last night was encouraging.

Not trying to be a downer but in a few ways also discouraging.

Realize they did not need to pass much but it's all relative and he was 6th on the team in routes run, trailing Knox. Was subbed out frequently when the game was still in doubt. Of course no one cares if he's subbed out in running plays, but it's more then that.

He's a TE1 IMO, solid option to roll out each week at a super weak looking spot right now. As was discussed last week the real killer is what you likely passed over to draft him, especially in FFPC/TEP type format.

This. I'm glad I got the points. But I'm worried about the week in/week out.

I thought he was going to be Allen's #1 target, and that would yield a ton of volume. He's at less than 4 targets per game right now.

The TE position is so bad that he's a good start. But having spent a 5th rounder, it hurts.

 

[Payne]

I'm not worried. Defenses will adjust to what Buffalo is doing. More passing is in their future and that means more opportunities for Kincaid.

 

[Statorama]

It could be worse, you could be an Andrews owner.

 

[Big Nate]

Allen recently came out basically saying they will spready the ball around and take what the D is giving them. How can you argue with what has been working? They have smoked the Fins and now JAX and were out to big leads.

I don't doubt Kincaids abilities but there could be quiet weeks mixed in. With how much of a mess the TE position has been I'll take 13pts in PPR scoring and hope for bigger days and more usage. I will admit I was hoping for a bit more but he hasn't been the worst TE either.

If BUF keeps getting out to big leads they might not have to pass as much.

 

[JohnnyU]

Allen recently came out basically saying they will spready the ball around and take what the D is giving them. How can you argue with what has been working? They have smoked the Fins and now JAX and were out to big leads.

I don't doubt Kincaids abilities but there could be quiet weeks mixed in. With how much of a mess the TE position has been I'll take 13pts in PPR scoring and hope for bigger days and more usage. I will admit I was hoping for a bit more but he hasn't been the worst TE either.

If BUF keeps getting out to big leads they might not have to pass as much.

If it isn’t broken…..

 

[Big Nate]

Allen recently came out basically saying they will spready the ball around and take what the D is giving them. How can you argue with what has been working? They have smoked the Fins and now JAX and were out to big leads.

I don't doubt Kincaids abilities but there could be quiet weeks mixed in. With how much of a mess the TE position has been I'll take 13pts in PPR scoring and hope for bigger days and more usage. I will admit I was hoping for a bit more but he hasn't been the worst TE either.

If BUF keeps getting out to big leads they might not have to pass as much.

If it isn’t broken…..

And they are all having fun and loving it. As a Fins fan I'm jealous, they are really rolling. No one is complaining for targets or snaps or anything. They all have bought in (so far at least) and are looking good. Cook is running rampant all over everyone while also catching 5 balls a game. Shakir turning it up and Coleman catches the odd TD. So far no luck with defenses stopping them.

 

[menobrown]

It could be worse, you could be an Andrews owner.

All the top TE's have stunk but the most concerning by far is Andrews and Kelce.

The consensus top 5 TE's entering the year in FFPC/TEP leagues was Laporta, Kelce, McBride, Kincaid and Andrews.

I had Kincaid third out of that group after McBride and Laporta and today would still have him second or third, for sure third if Laporta is ok.

If I add him the consensus TE's 6 and 7, Engram and Pitts, I'm still putting Kincaid second or third.

Add in TE 8, Kittle, and he'll be a monster if he plays without Deebo but that may not happen and if it does it's likely brief so I'm still taking Kincaid over him.

So I was re-ranking the top 8 TE's entering the season in TEP leagues Kincaid has not fallen, maybe has even rose. That's however misleading and goes back so what I've been saying in this thread is that Kincaid is not killing you relative to the position, not close, it's just the opprotunity cost of drafting him so high(late second in FFPC) vs a non-TE.

And I've been thinking for the last week the honey hole spot for TE's is likely going to be TE's 9-11 before the season, which typically was rounds 5 for Ferguson and round 6 for Njoku and Bowers. Obvously Njoku is hurt and Ferguson was but those 3 TE's and McBride would be my top 4 TE's for ROS, with Laporta right behind them and I'd probably put Kincaid 6th.

And if you took Hockenson late you got to be feeling great about that right now simply because you've not lost a lot of points to your comp at TE and he's not disappointed like the rest of them.

 

[FarFromHome]

It could be worse, you could be an Andrews owner.

All the top TE's have stunk but the most concerning by far is Andrews and Kelce.

The consensus top 5 TE's entering the year in FFPC/TEP leagues was Laporta, Kelce, McBride, Kincaid and Andrews.

I had Kincaid third out of that group after McBride and Laporta and today would still have him second or third, for sure third if Laporta is ok.

If I add him the consensus TE's 6 and 7, Engram and Pitts, I'm still putting Kincaid second or third.

Add in TE 8, Kittle, and he'll be a monster if he plays without Deebo but that may not happen and if it does it's likely brief so I'm still taking Kincaid over him.

So I was re-ranking the top 8 TE's entering the season in TEP leagues Kincaid has not fallen, maybe has even rose. That's however misleading and goes back so what I've been saying in this thread is that Kincaid is not killing you relative to the position, not close, it's just the opprotunity cost of drafting him so high(late second in FFPC) vs a non-TE.

And I've been thinking for the last week the honey hole spot for TE's is likely going to be TE's 9-11 before the season, which typically was rounds 5 for Ferguson and round 6 for Njoku and Bowers. Obvously Njoku is hurt and Ferguson was but those 3 TE's and McBride would be my top 4 TE's for ROS, with Laporta right behind them and I'd probably put Kincaid 6th.

And if you took Hockenson late you got to be feeling great about that right now simply because you've not lost a lot of points to your comp at TE and he's not disappointed like the rest of them.

Good post

 

[zamboni]

Allen recently came out basically saying they will spready the ball around and take what the D is giving them. How can you argue with what has been working? They have smoked the Fins and now JAX and were out to big leads.

I don't doubt Kincaids abilities but there could be quiet weeks mixed in. With how much of a mess the TE position has been I'll take 13pts in PPR scoring and hope for bigger days and more usage. I will admit I was hoping for a bit more but he hasn't been the worst TE either.

If BUF keeps getting out to big leads they might not have to pass as much.

Fair points - as was probably mentioned upthread, I think the overall fantasy community was wishcasting a huge role for Kincaid after the departure of Diggs (and to a much lesser extent, Davis) that would open up a huge number of targets. What said community didn't factor in was the possibility of the offense continuing its less pass heavy mindset under Brady, as well as the inclination of Allen to spread the ball around as the great ones do.

 

[Big Nate]

Allen recently came out basically saying they will spready the ball around and take what the D is giving them. How can you argue with what has been working? They have smoked the Fins and now JAX and were out to big leads.

I don't doubt Kincaids abilities but there could be quiet weeks mixed in. With how much of a mess the TE position has been I'll take 13pts in PPR scoring and hope for bigger days and more usage. I will admit I was hoping for a bit more but he hasn't been the worst TE either.

If BUF keeps getting out to big leads they might not have to pass as much.

Fair points - as was probably mentioned upthread, I think the overall fantasy community was wishcasting a huge role for Kincaid after the departure of Diggs (and to a much lesser extent, Davis) that would open up a huge number of targets. What said community didn't factor in was the possibility of the offense continuing its less pass heavy mindset under Brady, as well as the inclination of Allen to spread the ball around as the great ones do.

Starting in week 7 last year Kincaid had 9 games out of 11 with at least 6 targets. 4 of those games he had 8+ targets.

I admit I thought that would continue this year and thought his price/ADP was fairly reasonable considering they didn't have a true #1. I still think there could be better days ahead but no doubt the slow start is concerning.

I'd like to know if defenses are focusing on him and looking to take him away which is leading to more work for Shakir and Cook out of the backfield.

 

[rodalive]

It could be worse, you could be an Andrews owner.

All the top TE's have stunk but the most concerning by far is Andrews and Kelce.

The consensus top 5 TE's entering the year in FFPC/TEP leagues was Laporta, Kelce, McBride, Kincaid and Andrews.

I had Kincaid third out of that group after McBride and Laporta and today would still have him second or third, for sure third if Laporta is ok.

If I add him the consensus TE's 6 and 7, Engram and Pitts, I'm still putting Kincaid second or third.

Add in TE 8, Kittle, and he'll be a monster if he plays without Deebo but that may not happen and if it does it's likely brief so I'm still taking Kincaid over him.

So I was re-ranking the top 8 TE's entering the season in TEP leagues Kincaid has not fallen, maybe has even rose. That's however misleading and goes back so what I've been saying in this thread is that Kincaid is not killing you relative to the position, not close, it's just the opprotunity cost of drafting him so high(late second in FFPC) vs a non-TE.

And I've been thinking for the last week the honey hole spot for TE's is likely going to be TE's 9-11 before the season, which typically was rounds 5 for Ferguson and round 6 for Njoku and Bowers. Obvously Njoku is hurt and Ferguson was but those 3 TE's and McBride would be my top 4 TE's for ROS, with Laporta right behind them and I'd probably put Kincaid 6th.

And if you took Hockenson late you got to be feeling great about that right now simply because you've not lost a lot of points to your comp at TE and he's not disappointed like the rest of them.

Agreed. I think Ferguson will turn out to be the best value and could push for TE1.

 

[MrSoup]

Allen recently came out basically saying they will spready the ball around and take what the D is giving them. How can you argue with what has been working? They have smoked the Fins and now JAX and were out to big leads.

I don't doubt Kincaids abilities but there could be quiet weeks mixed in. With how much of a mess the TE position has been I'll take 13pts in PPR scoring and hope for bigger days and more usage. I will admit I was hoping for a bit more but he hasn't been the worst TE either.

If BUF keeps getting out to big leads they might not have to pass as much.

Fair points - as was probably mentioned upthread, I think the overall fantasy community was wishcasting a huge role for Kincaid after the departure of Diggs (and to a much lesser extent, Davis) that would open up a huge number of targets. What said community didn't factor in was the possibility of the offense continuing its less pass heavy mindset under Brady, as well as the inclination of Allen to spread the ball around as the great ones do.

Starting in week 7 last year Kincaid had 9 games out of 11 with at least 6 targets. 4 of those games he had 8+ targets.

I admit I thought that would continue this year and thought his price/ADP was fairly reasonable considering they didn't have a true #1. I still think there could be better days ahead but no doubt the slow start is concerning.

I'd like to know if defenses are focusing on him and looking to take him away which is leading to more work for Shakir and Cook out of the backfield.

Defenses were 100% double, sometimes triple covering him weeks 1 and 2.

Week 3 was such a blowout, we can’t really take anything from that game imo.

I’m feeling a lot better right now than I did at this time last week.

 

[dipandglide]

It looks like Kincaid's overall ceiling will be lower. I thought there'd be more volume. He's still better than most TEs and is tethered to a great quarterback, so I'm happily holding.

 

[TampaMike19]

It looks like Kincaid's overall ceiling will be lower. I thought there'd be more volume. He's still better than most TEs and is tethered to a great quarterback, so I'm happily holding.

Plus the ravens have been getting killed by tight ends so if there’s a breakout week it’s this week or nothing lol

 

[Big Nate]

It looks like Kincaid's overall ceiling will be lower. I thought there'd be more volume. He's still better than most TEs and is tethered to a great quarterback, so I'm happily holding.

Plus the ravens have been getting killed by tight ends so if there’s a breakout week it’s this week or nothing lol

I'm so in on this breakout game. Let's get it.

 

[kyoun1e]

It looks like Kincaid's overall ceiling will be lower. I thought there'd be more volume. He's still better than most TEs and is tethered to a great quarterback, so I'm happily holding.

Plus the ravens have been getting killed by tight ends so if there’s a breakout week it’s this week or nothing lol

I'm so in on this breakout game. Let's get it.

I think the key to a Kincaid breakout is somebody slowing down Cook. He's virtually wide open every time he catches the ball.

 

[Big Nate]

It looks like Kincaid's overall ceiling will be lower. I thought there'd be more volume. He's still better than most TEs and is tethered to a great quarterback, so I'm happily holding.

Plus the ravens have been getting killed by tight ends so if there’s a breakout week it’s this week or nothing lol

I'm so in on this breakout game. Let's get it.

I think the key to a Kincaid breakout is somebody slowing down Cook. He's virtually wide open every time he catches the ball.

Like I mentioned before I'm jealous of this BUF offense. They are absolutely killing it and picking apart the weaknesses in the D. Spreading the ball around and tossing TDs to everyone.

Think 4 different pass catchers had TDs last game. Why would they change it? Just have to hope this is the TE week with BAL being week to TEs. Just hope it isn't a 2 TD game for Knox as that has happpened before.

 

[DeaLerZ]

It looks like Kincaid's overall ceiling will be lower. I thought there'd be more volume. He's still better than most TEs and is tethered to a great quarterback, so I'm happily holding.

Plus the ravens have been getting killed by tight ends so if there’s a breakout week it’s this week or nothing lol

I'm so in on this breakout game. Let's get it.

I think the key to a Kincaid breakout is somebody slowing down Cook. He's virtually wide open every time he catches the ball.

Like I mentioned before I'm jealous of this BUF offense. They are absolutely killing it and picking apart the weaknesses in the D. Spreading the ball around and tossing TDs to everyone.

Think 4 different pass catchers had TDs last game. Why would they change it? Just have to hope this is the TE week with BAL being week to TEs. Just hope it isn't a 2 TD game for Knox as that has happpened before.

Knox is so annoying. He's definitely a hinderance to Kincaid having more success

 

[Big Nate]

It looks like Kincaid's overall ceiling will be lower. I thought there'd be more volume. He's still better than most TEs and is tethered to a great quarterback, so I'm happily holding.

Plus the ravens have been getting killed by tight ends so if there’s a breakout week it’s this week or nothing lol

I'm so in on this breakout game. Let's get it.

I think the key to a Kincaid breakout is somebody slowing down Cook. He's virtually wide open every time he catches the ball.

Like I mentioned before I'm jealous of this BUF offense. They are absolutely killing it and picking apart the weaknesses in the D. Spreading the ball around and tossing TDs to everyone.

Think 4 different pass catchers had TDs last game. Why would they change it? Just have to hope this is the TE week with BAL being week to TEs. Just hope it isn't a 2 TD game for Knox as that has happpened before.

Knox is so annoying. He's definitely a hinderance to Kincaid having more success

He might be a pain for Kincaid owners but he's a very good TE. When they run 2 TE sets both Knox and Kincaid are threats in the passing game. Knox can do it all which is why they gave him a new contract last year.

People can complain about Knox in fantasy but he's a very good TE.

 

[zamboni]

It looks like Kincaid's overall ceiling will be lower. I thought there'd be more volume. He's still better than most TEs and is tethered to a great quarterback, so I'm happily holding.

Plus the ravens have been getting killed by tight ends so if there’s a breakout week it’s this week or nothing lol

I'm so in on this breakout game. Let's get it.

I think the key to a Kincaid breakout is somebody slowing down Cook. He's virtually wide open every time he catches the ball.

Like I mentioned before I'm jealous of this BUF offense. They are absolutely killing it and picking apart the weaknesses in the D. Spreading the ball around and tossing TDs to everyone.

Think 4 different pass catchers had TDs last game. Why would they change it? Just have to hope this is the TE week with BAL being week to TEs. Just hope it isn't a 2 TD game for Knox as that has happpened before.

Knox is so annoying. He's definitely a hinderance to Kincaid having more success

He might be a pain for Kincaid owners but he's a very good TE. When they run 2 TE sets both Knox and Kincaid are threats in the passing game. Knox can do it all which is why they gave him a new contract last year.

People can complain about Knox in fantasy but he's a very good TE.

Agreed - Knox got the contract likely more for his plus blocking skills rather than his receiving acumen. The offense has shifted more to a run-heavy scheme, and he's very valuable in that regard and can still be an asset in the passing game. He doesn't carry a ton of fantasy value, but he's a guy who's very valuable NFL-wise and that's all the Bills care about.

 

[DeaLerZ]

It looks like Kincaid's overall ceiling will be lower. I thought there'd be more volume. He's still better than most TEs and is tethered to a great quarterback, so I'm happily holding.

Plus the ravens have been getting killed by tight ends so if there’s a breakout week it’s this week or nothing lol

I'm so in on this breakout game. Let's get it.

I think the key to a Kincaid breakout is somebody slowing down Cook. He's virtually wide open every time he catches the ball.

Like I mentioned before I'm jealous of this BUF offense. They are absolutely killing it and picking apart the weaknesses in the D. Spreading the ball around and tossing TDs to everyone.

Think 4 different pass catchers had TDs last game. Why would they change it? Just have to hope this is the TE week with BAL being week to TEs. Just hope it isn't a 2 TD game for Knox as that has happpened before.

Knox is so annoying. He's definitely a hinderance to Kincaid having more success

He might be a pain for Kincaid owners but he's a very good TE. When they run 2 TE sets both Knox and Kincaid are threats in the passing game. Knox can do it all which is why they gave him a new contract last year.

People can complain about Knox in fantasy but he's a very good TE.

Agreed - Knox got the contract likely more for his plus blocking skills rather than his receiving acumen. The offense has shifted more to a run-heavy scheme, and he's very valuable in that regard and can still be an asset in the passing game. He doesn't carry a ton of fantasy value, but he's a guy who's very valuable NFL-wise and that's all the Bills care about.

Yeah of course. But we are talking about fantasy value here not real life value that makes sense for the team lol

 

[Big Nate]

It looks like Kincaid's overall ceiling will be lower. I thought there'd be more volume. He's still better than most TEs and is tethered to a great quarterback, so I'm happily holding.

Plus the ravens have been getting killed by tight ends so if there’s a breakout week it’s this week or nothing lol

I'm so in on this breakout game. Let's get it.

I think the key to a Kincaid breakout is somebody slowing down Cook. He's virtually wide open every time he catches the ball.

Like I mentioned before I'm jealous of this BUF offense. They are absolutely killing it and picking apart the weaknesses in the D. Spreading the ball around and tossing TDs to everyone.

Think 4 different pass catchers had TDs last game. Why would they change it? Just have to hope this is the TE week with BAL being week to TEs. Just hope it isn't a 2 TD game for Knox as that has happpened before.

Knox is so annoying. He's definitely a hinderance to Kincaid having more success

He might be a pain for Kincaid owners but he's a very good TE. When they run 2 TE sets both Knox and Kincaid are threats in the passing game. Knox can do it all which is why they gave him a new contract last year.

People can complain about Knox in fantasy but he's a very good TE.

Agreed - Knox got the contract likely more for his plus blocking skills rather than his receiving acumen. The offense has shifted more to a run-heavy scheme, and he's very valuable in that regard and can still be an asset in the passing game. He doesn't carry a ton of fantasy value, but he's a guy who's very valuable NFL-wise and that's all the Bills care about.

Yeah of course. But we are talking about fantasy value here not real life value that makes sense for the team lol

Yes but the real life is why Kincaid is not always producing in fantasy. People can complain about Knox but he's not going anywhere.

 

[FarFromHome]

As someone who really over drafted this guy it's really hard to not admit it was a mistake. I was excepting a huge year. Was expecting a 15 to 20 weekly ppr average. He has been single digits 3 of 4. Smh. They just don't make any effort to actually use him. He is still a weekly starter, because the tight end position has been so bad, but the frustration is real.

 

[zamboni]

As someone who really over drafted this guy it's really hard to not admit it was a mistake. I was excepting a huge year. Was expecting a 15 to 20 weekly ppr average. He has been single digits 3 of 4. Smh. They just don't make any effort to actually use him. He is still a weekly starter, because the tight end position has been so bad, but the frustration is real.

No question Kincaid has been a disappointment, but a lot of that relates to the low volume passing game through the first four weeks. That and Shakir's emergence certainly hasn't helped in this low volume environment.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

As someone who really over drafted this guy it's really hard to not admit it was a mistake. I was excepting a huge year. Was expecting a 15 to 20 weekly ppr average. He has been single digits 3 of 4. Smh. They just don't make any effort to actually use him. He is still a weekly starter, because the tight end position has been so bad, but the frustration is real.

Yep. It’s a sunk cost, though. You still have to play him because he’s not actively hurting you relative to the TEs on your opponents’ rosters.

 

[TampaMike19]

As someone who really over drafted this guy it's really hard to not admit it was a mistake. I was excepting a huge year. Was expecting a 15 to 20 weekly ppr average. He has been single digits 3 of 4. Smh. They just don't make any effort to actually use him. He is still a weekly starter, because the tight end position has been so bad, but the frustration is real.

The biggest burn is that the breakout WRs in the 5th and 6th round were the opportunity cost…maybe a few RB’s as well. Overall though, it wasn’t a great year for this draft range. Still gotta play him but I get the frustration.

Yesterday was perfect script too.

 

[zamboni]

Looks like Shakir was just ruled out by McDermott. Could be a bigger opportunity for Kincaid in the slot to have that breakout game we've been looking for.

 

[kyoun1e]

Looks like Shakir was just ruled out by McDermott. Could be a bigger opportunity for Kincaid in the slot to have that breakout game we've been looking for.

Man, I hope so.

Think HOU a tough matchup for TEs though.

 

[zamboni]

Looks like Shakir was just ruled out by McDermott. Could be a bigger opportunity for Kincaid in the slot to have that breakout game we've been looking for.

Man, I hope so.

Think HOU a tough matchup for TEs though.

Maybe - who knows. Just hope it's a back and forth passing game script for both teams.

 

[Payne]

Looks like Shakir was just ruled out by McDermott. Could be a bigger opportunity for Kincaid in the slot to have that breakout game we've been looking for.

Man, I hope so.

Think HOU a tough matchup for TEs though.

Could be a shootout

 

[TampaMike19]

Looks like Shakir was just ruled out by McDermott. Could be a bigger opportunity for Kincaid in the slot to have that breakout game we've been looking for.

Last week was best matchup of the year for tight ends and the game script as well. If it ain’t this week then it ain’t happening.

 

[FarFromHome]

Looks like Shakir was just ruled out by McDermott. Could be a bigger opportunity for Kincaid in the slot to have that breakout game we've been looking for.

Last week was best matchup of the year for tight ends and the game script as well. If it ain’t this week then it ain’t happening.

Yep. Those of us that overdrafted Kincaid keep thinking ""this"" is the week. My fear is week 15 comes and we are still thinking ""this"" is the week. Ha ha. Having said all that, thiiiiiiis is the week. Giddy up!!!!

 

[travdogg]

Looks like Shakir was just ruled out by McDermott. Could be a bigger opportunity for Kincaid in the slot to have that breakout game we've been looking for.

Watch Curtis Samuel get 10 targets

 

[FarFromHome]

Looks like Shakir was just ruled out by McDermott. Could be a bigger opportunity for Kincaid in the slot to have that breakout game we've been looking for.

Watch Curtis Samuel get 10 targets

I picked up Samuel in both my leagues with Shakir out. Maybe I start em both. I'll show them. Ha ha

 

[kyoun1e]

HOU statistically good against TEs.

However, here are the TEs they've faced:

B. Strange
J. Mundt
C. Kmet
G. Everett

Safe to say, we can throw those stats out the window.

In 2023, HOU D was 4th to last in points against TEs.

 

[JohnnyU]

Are any TEs trustworthy? Ferguson seems to have a decent floor. Probably Kraft too. Kincaid? Probably not trustworthy.

 

[jurrassic]

Feels very droppable.

 

[kyoun1e]

Feels very droppable.

Along with everyone but Kelce.

 

[LionOfGosforth]

Yeah had a belly full of this dude. Sick of hearing that it's down to game script or whatever. Things were lined up perfectly last game, down 17-3, no Shakir. Another dud. Useless.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Feels very droppable.

For who? TE is mostly one big zero this year.