Not the best year to be doing this, though,.,two guys made of glass. good when they play but the can't stay healthy. and their contracts will be higher than a rookie TE , right? just find a good one in the draft.
Not the best year to be doing this, though,.,two guys made of glass. good when they play but the can't stay healthy. and their contracts will be higher than a rookie TE , right? just find a good one in the draft.
Henry is great when he plays, not good. Of the two tight ends he is far better than Hooper.two guys made of glass. good when they play but the can't stay healthy. and their contracts will be higher than a rookie TE , right? just find a good one in the draft.
Speaking Tuesday, Chargers GM Tom Telesco confirmed that impending free agent Hunter Henry is a candidate for the franchise tag.
Telesco added that the team would prefer a long-term contract, and that talks are ongoing. Henry would be due roughly $11 million under the tag. Despite his injury issues and an up and down 2019, Hunter would be an extremely hot commodity on the open market. The tag is a distinct possibility.
SOURCE: Jeff Miller on Twitter
Feb 25, 2020, 1:13 PM ET
ESPN's Jenna Laine reports the Chargers are expected to franchise tag TE Hunter Henry.
Henry has been nothing short of spectacular when healthy during his short career, but he's ultimately played in just 41-of-64 regular season games since being drafted in 2016. Still, the presence of Henry, Keenan Allen and Mike Williams gives the Chargers one of the league's better trios of pass catchers entering the 2020 season. Of course, it remains to be seen who will be tasked with getting these players the football. The leading candidate for now is Tyrod Taylor, but this is a good enough offensive environment to foster a rookie signal caller sooner rather than later.
SOURCE: Jenna Laine on Twitter
Mar 2, 2020, 1:55 PM ET
I like Henry, and I think the Chargers should keep him, but the overhype is out of control on how good he is.Henry has been nothing short of spectacular when healthy during his short career
I don't think so myself, feel it's warranted. Had this same conversation last year, not sure if it was with you, and the counter to what I'm about to say was OJ Howard. Fair enough. But I think there are reasons other then just Arians why Howard can't get more targets.. In LAC while it's a TE friendly system with Allen, the RB's and slower tempo it's not easy to get a lot of targets as some of these others and in my opinion health and targets have been the issue and only issue.I like Henry, and I think the Chargers should keep him, but the overhype is out of control on how good he is.
I posted this recently in a Chargers forum:I don't think so myself, feel it's warranted. Had this same conversation last year, not sure if it was with you, and the counter to what I'm about to say was OJ Howard. Fair enough. But I think there are reasons other then just Arians why Howard can't get more targets.. In LAC while it's a TE friendly system with Allen, the RB's and slower tempo it's not easy to get a lot of targets as some of these others and in my opinion health and targets have been the issue and only issue.
But on a per target basis Henry is pretty much just as good as the current consensus top 3 TE's, arguably the best.
Looking at them in terms of career catch rate, ypc and TD's per target:
Henry, 71.2% catch , 12.6 ypc, one TD per 11.23 targets
Kelce, 70.9% catch, 12.8 ypc, one TD per 19.32 targets
Kittle, , 70.8% catch, 13.6 ypc, one TD per 25.41 targets
Ertz, 68.9% catch, 10.9 ypc, one TD per 21.8 targets
So again you can use an example like OJ Howard and just throw all this aside. You can say Henry's efficiency is helped a little by defensive focus on other targets and I'd agree, but the others have had varying degrees of players to take attention away as well with Kittle easily having the least.
But I feel based on what I see and statistically when Henry is healthy and they actually use him he's been every bit as spectacular as the top TE's in the game today. It's also why I badly wanted him to leave LAC even when I was not worried about Tyrod being his QB next year, think way to often he's not utilized enough. Looks like I'm going to have to wait till next year.
Based on your post, we probably disagree about him, and that is fine. There is no shame in being the TE who falls in the 6-10 range of the current TE rankings, and that's where I think he is in real life. (Fantasy might be a different story without Rivers.)Per PFF, here is where his cumulative statistics ranked in 2019 among TEs:
Those totals all came in 12 games. Many, maybe all, of those totals would have been greater and ranked higher had he not gotten hurt. On the other hand, he has never played 16 games in a season. Even ignoring 2018, when he missed the entire season, he missed 7 games total in the other 3, an average of more than 2 games per season.
- 55 receptions – #10
- 652 receiving yards – #9
- 36 first downs – tied for #7
- 164 YAC – #27
- 5 TDs – tied for #7
- 3 drops – tied for #13
- 1 fumble – tied for #4
- 5 penalties – tied for #7
Per Player Profiler, here is where his rate-based statistics ranked in 2019 among TEs:
The first 2 rate statistics above (target quality rating and route participation) show that he had the opportunity to be a top 5 receiving TE. But the rest of the metrics above, both cumulative and rate metrics, show he was not.
- 7.2 target quality rating – #1
- 73.9% route participation – #5
- 11.9 YPR – #11
- 8.6 yards per target – #9
- 2.03 yards per pass route – #13
- 72.4% catch rate – #13
- 82.1% true catch rate – #23
- 5.3% drop rate – #17
Here is how he graded out among TEs in 2019 per PFF:
So this type of grading also does not support the idea that he is a top 5 TE. PFF would clearly grade these guys out ahead of him: Kittle, Kelce, Andrews, Higbee, Waller, Hooper, and Goedert. And they would grade Ertz and Everett as being about the same.
- Overall: 73.1, #16 among 134 TEs who received a overall grades
- Receiving: 75.0, #18 among 120 TEs who received a receiving grade
- Run blocking: 56.8, #75 among 134 TEs who received a run blocking grade
- Pass blocking: 56.5, #95 among 127 TEs who received a pass blocking grade
Football Outsiders is a bit more kind to Henry, though on balance he remains outside their 2019 top 5:
On the whole, he is a low top 10 TE, not a top 5 TE. I will also point out that his run blocking tends to be overrated on this site. He is better than Gates was, but that is a low bar. His blocking is good enough for him to dominate snaps, but he really should be running routes much more than run or pass blocking.
- 138 DYAR (total value) – #5
- 19.5% DVOA (value per play) – #9
- 736 Effective Yards – #8
I think his production is likely to dip with Tyrod, Stick, or a rookie QB, and those seem like the most likely outcome at QB in 2020. All that said, I think the Chargers should and will keep him. They have the cap space and don’t need the headache of trying to replace him while also dealing with their QB, OL, IDL, LB, and CB situations.
Yes perfectly fine that we agree to disagree.Based on your post, we probably disagree about him, and that is fine. There is no shame in being the TE who falls in the 6-10 range of the current TE rankings, and that's where I think he is in real life. (Fantasy might be a different story without Rivers.)
I would also point out that Henry's rookie season (2016) drastically skews his TD statistics. I mean, it happened, but:
I think the Rivers to new QB situation is underplayed for Henry and other Chargers fantasy players.
I think my post made it very clear why I commented on his TDs in 2016.You chose to focus and hone in for some reason solely on the TD's.
Yes perfectly fine that we agree to disagree.
I'd love him with Brady but my guess he's going to get some combo of Tyrod and a rookie QB not named Burrow. And in that case it's stock way down for 2020 and this is coming from someone who was just making a case I think he's an elite talent.How do you all think he will be without Rivers in PPR (full or 0.5)?
Chargers placed the franchise tag on TE Hunter Henry.
This was widely expected and a no-brainer move for the Chargers. Henry's injury history has limited to him playing 41-of-64 regular season games, but he's averaging 8.9 yards per career target, making him one of the better tight ends in the league when he's on the field. With the Chargers potentially going with a rookie quarterback for part of the upcoming season, it's wise to keep Henry around as a check-down option with some YAC ability. Henry will be a mid-range TE1 in fantasy drafts depending on who is under center. He'll be incentivized to have a big season to secure a long-term deal next offseason.
SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
Mar 13, 2020, 1:26 PM ET
Except he really doesn't have any YAC ability.as a check-down option with some YAC ability
Franchise-tagged TE Hunter Henry said he's "fine" playing under the tag for the entire year.
“I think it’s fine,” Henry said in an interview on SiriusXM NFL Radio. “Obviously, I think I would like to get something done. Just security, and long term and just with the team and the franchise. It’s another year of playing football, man, that’s how I look at it. . . . Whatever the situation is, I’ll be looking forward to going out with this squad." Henry and the Chargers were close to a long-term extension earlier this offseason but discussions reportedly slowed before the two sides could hammer out the final details. Even so, he's been participating in the team's virtual workouts and is fully expected to receive an extension at some point in the next calendar year. Henry turns 26 in December.
SOURCE: Pro Football Talk on Twitter
May 24, 2020, 1:43 PM ET
Charles Clay was a clear focal point of the Bills offense back when Tyrod Taylor was their starting QB. Does this mean good things for Hunter Henry in 2020, or does his injury history have you looking elsewhere?
Liz: It would not surprise me if Henry led all Chargers in targets. There, I said it. He’s the only pass-catching option with a skill set that could buoy either QB. Tyrod historically targets his TEs, and Herbert will likely need to. Henry’s durability issues limit his upside, but his reliability on the field makes him a fine option inside the top-10 options at the position.
Scott: Buffalo’s roster had such a different shape to it, I’m not going to take any stock in the Taylor-Clay history. Henry still could be a fine player, but this isn’t a connection I’m going to consider.
Dalton: Given Henry’s durability concerns, the competition for targets in LA, and my expectation of seeing a lot of Herbert, Henry is an easy pass at a loaded TE position. In fact, I barely have him inside my top-15 tight ends.
As close to zero as one can get. He's got other concerns that could torpedo his production and value but Parham is not one of them.I'm curious of Parham's impact here.
I doubt that, but we'll see.As close to zero as one can get. He's got other concerns that could torpedo his production and value but Parham is not one of them.
As close to zero as one can get. He's got other concerns that could torpedo his production and value but Parham is not one of them.
I didn't like the Phillip Rivers I saw last season. While a new QB is an unknown quantity, I can see a TE being a security blanket. Big factor may be if the Chargers need to use the TE in more blocking schemes... other than that, I see the QB change as a push, perhaps a positive.QB matters.
14. What are the chances TE Donald Parham and OL Storm Norton make the roster?
Donald Parham and Storm Norton both spent the winter playing in the XFL — Parham for the Dallas Renegades and Norton for the Los Angeles Wildcats — and they parlayed their success into camp spots with the Chargers. Fans were excited by both signings because of the name recognition from the XFL, but I think that has led to their stock being a little inflated. Both guys have quite a bit of work to do to make the 53-man roster.
Parham, to me, has a better shot than Norton because the Chargers are a bit thin at tight end behind Hunter Henry. The third tight-end spot is pretty open, and if Parham shows promise in camp, especially as a blocker, he could claim it.
Hunter Henry caught 5-of-8 targets for 73 yards in the Chargers' Week 1 win over the Bengals.
Henry looked healthy and moved well with the ball in his hands. His 73 yards led the team and his eight targets were right behind Mike Williams, who surprisingly played through a shoulder injury. The Chargers offense may be one that struggles to consistently move the ball in 2020 -- that was the case in Week 1 at least -- but Henry will be squarely in the mix for low-end TE1-level volume. Given the expected negative game script, Henry is a top-12 tight end option against the Chiefs in Week 2. Keep in mind that Henry is in a contract season.
- Rotoworld
Hunter Henry caught 6-of-8 targets for 83 yards in the Chargers' Week 2 overtime loss to the Chiefs.
Henry has had back-to-back eight-target games with two different quarterbacks. This week, first-round rookie Justin Herbert drew a surprise start because of a Tyrod Taylor pregame chest injury. After Herbert's performance, it's likely that Henry will be catching passes from him for the rest of the season barring injury or chaos. That's good news for Henry as Herbert provides more arm talent than Taylor. Treat Henry as a top-eight tight end against the visiting Panthers in Week 3. Keep in my Henry is playing in a contract season.
Sep 20, 2020, 8:09 PM ET
Hunter Henry caught 4-of-8 targets for 23 yards and one touchdown in the Chargers' Week 5 loss to the Saints.
Henry's touchdown was a perfectly-throw out route by Justin Herbert in the red zone, putting the ball only where Henry could catch it. The yards haven't been there the last couple weeks, but Henry did corral his first touchdown of the season in this one. Henry will be a middling TE1 next time out in Week 7 against the Jaguars after the bye.
Oct 13, 2020, 12:08 AM ET
Sorry, just thought I read it somewhere earlier in the weekNo injury designation
Thought the same thing earlier with Kittle on my IR but so far I’m happy I stuck with Henry.Sorry, just thought I read it somewhere earlier in the week
I so badly want to sit Henry tonight hoping Kittle plays this week....with Irv Smith as my backup
Henry is the safe play
Hunter Henry caught 5-of-7 targets for 65 yards and a touchdown in the Chargers' Week 15 win over the Raiders.
It was one of Henry's best overall games of the season, one where he went 4/46/1 before halftime. Frustratingly, he drew only three targets after the break, but fantasy managers managed to get what they came for in the first half. Henry's score was a 10-yarder where he caught a low throw and took on two defenders at the goal line. Ceiling has remained frustratingly elusive, but Henry has provided a decent floor. The Chargers get the Broncos for the fantasy finals in Week 16. Henry went 4/33 vs. Vic Fangio's defense earlier this season.
Dec 18, 2020, 12:20 AM ET
Hunter Henry was held out of Tuesday's practice.
Henry's injury is unknown. It's likely just maintenance coming off one of his best games of the season. Provided everything checks out with his health, Henry will be in the top-five mix for Sunday's game against the Broncos.
Dec 22, 2020, 3:30 PM ET
Hunter Henry missed Wednesday's practice with an illness.
Henry has been held out for two straight days. This is on the heels of Henry turning seven targets for 65 yards and a touchdown with a matchup against the Broncos on tap. Check back in on Sunday for an update on Henry's status.
Dec 23, 2020, 10:55 PM ET
I have't seen that reported anywhere yet. Chargers may be keeping it tight lipped.Does he have covid or was he just close contact? Is it 0% chance he plays this week?