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TE Jimmy Graham, CHI (1 Viewer)
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shadyridr
Footballguy
and he played for the packers
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
OH no the dreaded crabtree signing
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
Graham played this week he will play next week, reports are he didnt suffer a set back. More treatment and longer rest since he plays Sunday night is a plus. All day to get the arm loosened up.
IgglesFan
Footballguy
Would be great if someone could find a video or Vine, but Graham was a joke coming off the line yesterday. He was basically just throwing his left shoulder at guys to try to disrupt them...to no avail. Now wonder the Lions didn't bother accounting for him...no way was Brees going to throw him the ball.
benched Allen for him yesterday...that won't happen again until I am certain Graham can truly play.
benched Allen for him yesterday...that won't happen again until I am certain Graham can truly play.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Sabertooth
Footballguy
He just got traded in a league I'm in.
Mark Ingram
DMC
for
Jimmy Graham
Rashad Jennings.
Husband and wife made the deal. Husband (2-5 record) giving up Graham to wife (4-3 record).
Mark Ingram
DMC
for
Jimmy Graham
Rashad Jennings.
Husband and wife made the deal. Husband (2-5 record) giving up Graham to wife (4-3 record).
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Just trying to decide if there is any way that isn't collusion.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Guy in my dynasty league offered Graham for sale. I offered him next year's #1 and got shot down. What does he expect? He's a scratch and dent markdown. I won't be offering again.
DukeBroadway
Footballguy
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I offered Bridgewater, Brandon Marshall, and Antonio Gates for him in one league. I have not heard back.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I assumed he meant the 1.01 pick next year. Which Graham is still worth more than.
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
My question is why are so many people down on Graham? He may be slowed now, but it is a shoulder, he will get better in 6 weeks before the playoffs.
I play in a one league with some dufuses, because he had a bad game they all think he sucks or are trying to low ball like I'm gonna all of a sudden say "OK you convinced me Graham sucks." I'm trying to get a QB and have a trade of Cutler, Ellington and Graham for Rodgers and have been told I'm not paying enough. I think I'm paying out my ### for Rodgers.
Back to the topic, fantasy is a what have you done for me lately league now that Graham had a zero last week he may be easier to get in redraft. I wouldn't be moving him unless it was for an elite QB or RB.
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
Depending on the other guy's roster, I think that's quite a fair trade. If I had a real hole at rb2 and I didn't have Julius Thomas, that deal would be a no-brainer for me. Very fair offer!
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
He has Reed at TE and is starting WW fodder at RB and literally has to find someone off the wire for byes. He isnt the brightest guy anyways. His RBs in redraft are Sankey and Bush with Mathews and Williams on the bench. I even threw in Allen who someone cut on waivers but shouldnt. His exact quote was "I'm 6-1 and Mathews will be back to stud levels and Reed will get better when RG3 is back, He is taking all the risk with the Graham injury." Exact quote. Like I said, some dufuses.
Graham is as much advantage at TE as Rodgers is at QB.
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Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
Agree 100%. In fact I'm not sure you should even do this trade. I know cutler stinks lately but maybe you can bite the bullet and stream QBs? Assuming your league is yardage heavy, I'd hate giving up both Graham and Ellington. Of course I'm also the guy that trading away Gio and Donnell (after his 3 Td week) for Graham and Trent. Jury still out on that one...
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
Graham was a decoy last week, he should be better this week. If not he is only gonna get better every week. By the playoffs he will be back to an elite performer. For what its worth, Yahoo trade eval has me at -28 and the person getting Graham at +38. Not that that matters but its a guide to who is getting ripped at that differential, trade talk has been harder and harder over the years as people value meter is always different when they own a player. They are always the best.
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shadyridr
Footballguy
fair? Thats a HORRIBLE trade for jerry
Rick James
Footballguy
yeah that is the definition of trade rape.
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
What trade are you guys talking about? Not Sabertooth's. I'm talking about Graham, Eklington and Cutler for Rodgers. Yeesh...
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
They think I'm getting raped, and I agree. I am willing to pay for a player. Argument can be made for who is the bigger idiot me for offering it or the other guy for refusing to even consider it.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Yup. Interchangeable. Dynasty I like Graham a bit more because his contract is settled and Brees is younger than Manning. Otherwise they are a wash.
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
Good question, and when Graham is healthy there is no one I want over him including Julius. Graham is just as likely to score and puts up more catches and yards.leftcoastguy7 said:
In dynasty no, not that close to me but than again I generally play in 1.5 PPR TE leagues where Grahams higher volume is more appreciated.leftcoastguy7 said:
In a redraft, under any format, I'd trade Graham for Thomas due to Grahams injury.
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Rick James
Footballguy
instantlyleftcoastguy7 said:
SproutDaddy
Footballguy
why? He's worth a lot more.
Tusken Raider
Footballguy
His injury has me concerned. Have Olsen & Graham in PPR and am trying to move JG right now for a starting WR or RB. I can't afford to hold him & need wins now to save my season.
If he rebounds & picks back up to his normal numbers, so be it. But something seems off with the Saints this year, and Graham's injury has slowed them a lot. Hoping his name/potential can pry a nice deal for me.
If he rebounds & picks back up to his normal numbers, so be it. But something seems off with the Saints this year, and Graham's injury has slowed them a lot. Hoping his name/potential can pry a nice deal for me.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I'd rather stick it out with Graham then grab JT in a 1.5 PPR league (ffpc). JT is 11th in targets, 7th in receptions and 13th in yards yet he still leads all TEs because of the torrid TD pace. A healthy Graham can keep pace with him in the TD department while averaging more targets/receptions/yards on a weekly basis. It seems like a good move on the surface but I honestly don't think it is, unless you think Graham is going to be plagued by this injury for the rest of the season.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
For reference.
Dynasty Superflex:
I gave: Bortles, Brandon Marshall, and Antonio Gates
I got: Jimmy Graham, EJ Manuel, Danny Woodhead, 2015 3rd Round Pick, 2016 3rd Round Pick
Dynasty Superflex:
I gave: Bortles, Brandon Marshall, and Antonio Gates
I got: Jimmy Graham, EJ Manuel, Danny Woodhead, 2015 3rd Round Pick, 2016 3rd Round Pick
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
Mike Triplett @MikeTriplett 24s24 seconds ago
#Saints RBs Pierre Thomas (shoulder) and Khiry Robinson (forearm) both held out of team drills. TE Jimmy Graham, CB Keenan Lewis limited.
#Saints RBs Pierre Thomas (shoulder) and Khiry Robinson (forearm) both held out of team drills. TE Jimmy Graham, CB Keenan Lewis limited.
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
I was expecting a DNP so limited is a great sign. Shows no setbacks and he is progressing since he DNP on Wednesday last week.
redraft, julius is much more valuable than graham. grahams value is quite depreciated, or it should be. hes clearly not capable of producing for at least 1 more week and at massive risk for reinjury. im taking julius, gronk, olsen, reed, and gates over graham. expecting players to get healthy mid season is a losing proposition.leftcoastguy7 said:
zamboni
Footballguy
True. Just have to hope there's better clarity this week for lineup setting purposes since the Saints are playing Sunday night.
lod01
Footballguy
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
Its a sprained shoulder that is getting better week by week.
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
Starting him and not thinking twice about it even after his goose egg.need2know said:
DaWidowMaker
Footballguy
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
It should be as easy as if he is active then he is in your lineup. Goose egg be darned.
Skoo
Footballguy
That's the way I look at it. I've had him for 4 season in a keeper league and last week was the first time he didn't produce anything when playing with an injury.
I got crap on another forum for saying people should start him last week but as I told them, I'd do the same today if I had the same information I did on Sunday.
In the process of making a trade to get Graham in my other league, most likely giving Vereen and Cameron for him.
Buy low sell high and all that good stuff
