TE Jimmy Graham, CHI (2 Viewers)

[Acrobat7]

no way he plays. out next week too. just hope he can return and be effective and doesnt get reinjured.

 

[Reegus]

no way he plays. out next week too. just hope he can return and be effective and doesnt get reinjured.

Worst poster on these boards. Constantly makes terrible calls.

 

[Faust]

Any concerns that Graham will play today as a decoy and on a limited snap count?

 

[jvdesigns2002]

Any concerns that Graham will play today as a decoy and on a limited snap count?

Big time concern for me--but as a Graham owner--what choice do we have but to play him? I got stuck playing Amaro on Thursday because I didn't know what to expect form the Graham situation--and now I'm left with choosing between Graham, Storm, Justin Hunter, or Zac Stacy as a flex. Unless Graham owners have a legit and solid second option--I think we just have to start him regardless of how low our confidence is.

 

[Tango]

Any concerns that Graham will play today as a decoy and on a limited snap count?

He will definitely be on a limited snap count. So obviously concerns there are 1000% warranted.

Decoy-risk is lower than the re-injury-risk, but they're both significant. But both of those risks are built into everyone's opinion already, so there's nothing new with either.

 

[Zow]

Any concerns that Graham will play today as a decoy and on a limited snap count?

Of course there's a concern. It's high risk/high reward. So weigh your options accordingly.

 

[Jerry Curl]

Any concerns that Graham will play today as a decoy and on a limited snap count?

He will definitely be on a limited snap count. So obviously concerns there are 1000% warranted.

Decoy-risk is lower than the re-injury-risk, but they're both significant. But both of those risks are built into everyone's opinion already, so there's nothing new with either.

Just like it was definite he would be out this week?

 

[Omniscient Deity]

Any concerns that Graham will play today as a decoy and on a limited snap count?

For sure. But when you're starting a TE that you're realistically expecting 3-4 catches from in his place I'd rather hope that Grahan can catch 3-4 passes with a better chance at a TD. Guys like Jordan Reed, Delanie Walker, etc are a different story though.

 

[Tango]

Any concerns that Graham will play today as a decoy and on a limited snap count?

He will definitely be on a limited snap count. So obviously concerns there are 1000% warranted.

Decoy-risk is lower than the re-injury-risk, but they're both significant. But both of those risks are built into everyone's opinion already, so there's nothing new with either.

Just like it was definite he would be out this week?

Ha! Well, nothing is definite! If he is pain-free and doing awesome, there's a chance he'll play 100% of snaps of course...but obviously that's unlikely. This is more art than science. I think the reality is that he got injured two weeks ago (the only facts I have since I do not attend Saints practices personally), and I'd bet you anything is snap percentage is less than 80%.

 

[SameSongNDance]

FOX's Jay Glazer said the plan is for Jimmy Graham (shoulder) to play roughly 30 snaps in Sunday's game at Detroit.

That sounds absolutely arbitrary and also good enough for me to start him.

 

[steveski]

FOX's Jay Glazer said the plan is for Jimmy Graham (shoulder) to play roughly 30 snaps in Sunday's game at Detroit.

That sounds absolutely arbitrary and also good enough for me to start him.

It's probably because the plan is for the Saints to get into the redzone 30 times today. And each of those times it only takes 1 play to score. And each of those scores goes to Jimmy Graham.

So my modest projection:

Jimmy Graham 30 catches for 60 yards and 30 TD's.

 

[johnnyboy8102]

Contemplating flexing him over Andre Johnson now that Graham can play 30 or so snaps.....

 

[Omniscient Deity]

30 snaps locks it up for me, he's in over the scrubs I picked up from the waiver wire.

 

[SengerCJ]

Starting him over Witten. eek.

 

[Acrobat7]

Can't bench Cameron/Kelce for 30 snaps - sorry Jimmy!

 

[SameSongNDance]

Can't bench Cameron/Kelce for 30 snaps - sorry Jimmy!

Kelce played on 29 before the bye.

 

[TartanLion]

Going with Reed. Smaller chance of a disaster that I can't afford.

 

[IgglesFan]

rolling with Graham over Allen

 

[acme]

saw him on the 2nd play of the game but haven't seen him since... decoy day...

 

[LargeMouthBass]

I picked up Owen Daniels and ended up putting Graham in the last minute. Hate these mind games coaches play.

Shoulda known he wasn't gonna do much today. Damn!!!

 

[GoBirds]

I picked up Owen Daniels and ended up putting Graham in the last minute. Hate these mind games coaches play.

Shoulda known he wasn't gonna do much today. Damn!!!

Did the same.

Any targets at all?

 

[LargeMouthBass]

Nope. Maybe be in the second half. Best case scenario would be for Detroit to score some TDs and NO playing from behind. If NO has the lead, I doubt they'll even use Graham.

 

[buck naked]

Dear national "reporters":

#### you and your bull #### ####### reporting on Jimmy Graham. ####ers.

 

[TartanLion]

Doughnut avoided although it did little to help my team.

 

[GoBirds]

With another L this week don't know if they can keep this BS up and have a shot at the division.

 

[NREC34]

Doughnut avoided although it did little to help my team.

How do you figure? It's saying Graham got 0 for my opponent this week on yahoo.

 

[LargeMouthBass]

Doughnut avoided although it did little to help my team.

How do you figure? It's saying Graham got 0 for my opponent this week on yahoo.

I think he got the wrong Graham.

 

[Tango]

With another L this week don't know if they can keep this BS up and have a shot at the division.

No wins in the entire division this week...

 

[SameSongNDance]

I was prepared for this.

 

[Balco]

Ugh.

 

[GoBirds]

With another L this week don't know if they can keep this BS up and have a shot at the division.

No wins in the entire division this week...

Another week not making up any ground.

 

[TartanLion]

Doughnut avoided although it did little to help my team.

How do you figure? It's saying Graham got 0 for my opponent this week on yahoo.

I mean I benched him for Reed hence avoiding the zero, but Reed didn't do much better much like most of the rest of my team as well !

 

[Tango]

With another L this week don't know if they can keep this BS up and have a shot at the division.

No wins in the entire division this week...

Another week not making up any ground.

half-empty vs half-full, etc.

 

[just_want_2_win]

I don't own JG this year but this is about par for the course. I had him the last two years and each of those he experienced a high ankle sprain that cost him a couple games around the bye, led to a few limited-snap/decoy games, and a slow comeback post-injury. At his ADP this year, figured no longer worth it even though he can single-handedly win a few weeks for you when healthy. Olson has been more than adequate at the TE slot on my team.

 

[cvnpoka]

no way he plays. out next week too. just hope he can return and be effective and doesnt get reinjured.

Worst poster on these boards. Constantly makes terrible calls.

yup. pretty sure i was right about him not being able to play. just like with calvin.

glad my stalker is back tho.

 

[GoBirds]

With another L this week don't know if they can keep this BS up and have a shot at the division.

No wins in the entire division this week...

Another week not making up any ground.

half-empty vs half-full, etc.

2-4

 

[Jerry Curl]

no way he plays. out next week too. just hope he can return and be effective and doesnt get reinjured.

Worst poster on these boards. Constantly makes terrible calls.

yup. pretty sure i was right about him not being able to play. just like with calvin.

glad my stalker is back tho.

Did he play? Didnt you say no way he plays? How are you right again?

 

[Balco]

What are the chances the Saints rest him? I am hoping they just shut him down a couple of games.

 

[cvnpoka]

ya i wouldnt call that playing

 

[shadyridr]

Theres a very real chance hes a decoy again next week

 

[Balco]

Theres a very real chance hes a decoy again next week

Gross. I am going to sit him. Problem is, I picked up Josh Hill (14 team league, pickings are slim) as his replacement, but I can't start him with any confidence either.

 

[Tango]

With another L this week don't know if they can keep this BS up and have a shot at the division.

No wins in the entire division this week...

Another week not making up any ground.

half-empty vs half-full, etc.

2-4

Yeah...no hiding from that.

I cant believe they were running so much inside their 25 up 10.

That was where it went off the rails. PUT THEM AWAY.

 

[John 14:6]

Theres a very real chance hes a decoy again next week

Gross. I am going to sit him. Problem is, I picked up Josh Hill (14 team league, pickings are slim) as his replacement, but I can't start him with any confidence either.

I'm going to continuing sitting him until he starts putting in some full practices. I may miss a huge game at some point, but I can't risk those zeros in a ppr league...

 

[Jerry Curl]

With another L this week don't know if they can keep this BS up and have a shot at the division.

No wins in the entire division this week...

Another week not making up any ground.

half-empty vs half-full, etc.

2-4

Yeah...no hiding from that.

I cant believe they were running so much inside their 25 up 10.

That was where it went off the rails. PUT THEM AWAY.

My biggest problem with coaches, not trying to score TDs every possible drive.

 

[Tango]

With another L this week don't know if they can keep this BS up and have a shot at the division.

No wins in the entire division this week...

Another week not making up any ground.

half-empty vs half-full, etc.

2-4

Yeah...no hiding from that.

I cant believe they were running so much inside their 25 up 10.

That was where it went off the rails. PUT THEM AWAY.

My biggest problem with coaches, not trying to score TDs every possible drive.

There was a ton of time at that point. Between 5-10 minutes

 

[jdoggydogg]

Ugh. Benched Emmanuel Sanders, Roddy White, and Michael Floyd for Graham today.

 

[Grahamburn]

Ugh. Benched Emmanuel Sanders, Roddy White, and Michael Floyd for Graham today.

You might want to entertain a trade.

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

Home vs GB on SNF up next.

 

[shadyridr]

Did he even get targeted yesterday?

twice. he looked like a shell of himself out there. barely ran routes without any energy, detroit said they had zero concerns about him. clearly a decoy.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

immy Graham played on 30-of-75 snaps in Sunday's loss at Detroit.

Graham played enough snaps to be a factor, but he oddly wasn't really a part of the gameplan. He had zero catches on two targets and the Lions defenders said afterward they weren't worried about him. ESPN Saints reporter Mike Triplett says it's difficult to predict if Graham's role will increase going forward, as the tight end's ability to block and absorb contact are in doubt. Owners can just hang their hat on the fact that he didn't appear to suffer any setbacks Sunday.

Source: profootballfocus.com
Oct 20 - 8:22 AM