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TE Jimmy Graham, CHI (4 Viewers)

Dr. Dan said:
According to Fantasy Labs (never heard of them), Graham is not on final injury report. To play Thursday


Anyone benching??? Not sure how serious his injury is. Held out Monday and Tuesday practices, but probably because of the short week I imagine. 

I'm likely starting... can't afford a healthy bench right now with other byes. 
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I have Engram, so I am going with him, but I doubt there are many options otherwise that would make me sit him.

 
freaked out for a second because the seahawk website shows him as DNP today but game status is N/A..... however various reports have him practicing in full today and not listed on final injury report... so he should be good to go

 
Mulling an offer of Gronk for my Howard and Graham. My RBs would be a shambles without Howard.

Very tempted nonetheless.

Without a few big 4th quarters, Graham would be approaching WW status.

 
davearm said:
Mulling an offer of Gronk for my Howard and Graham. My RBs would be a shambles without Howard.

Very tempted nonetheless.

Without a few big 4th quarters, Graham would be approaching WW status.
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It's borderline amazing how wrong you are on a routine basis.

 
I took a chance and picked him up for Eifert and draft picks when his stock was down earlier in the season, paying off big time now. Looks like he is firmly back in top 5 TE territory again.

 
Sat him for Engram. And a nice parting kick to the balls--would have played him had I known forte was gimpy....

 
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msommer said:
Jimmy is getting himself a new big contract in the off season
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Hopefully from a better team. TDs are up and down year to year. The yardage is brutal in Seattle. They don't use him downfield and the way Wilson runs around, the fast little guys are better able to get open on those plays. They rarely even run a deep pattern to Graham.

 
to think my trade of Graham and Ajayi for Aaron Jones was rejected 3 weeks ago

glad I didn't give up on this guy. Seattle always looks lost offensively for the first 4 or 5 games it seems

 
Milkman said:
He still looks bad running to me but if he's going to get that many redzone looks he's a top 4ish TE every week. 
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Yeah I agree. He may be tough to defend in the end zone but he used to look uncoverable everywhere. That part of his game hasn't returned.

 
davearm said:
Mulling an offer of Gronk for my Howard and Graham. My RBs would be a shambles without Howard.

Very tempted nonetheless.

Without a few big 4th quarters, Graham would be approaching WW status.
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Doesn't matter when he gets pts, just keep getting them Jimmy

 
Yeah he's not the same player he used to be getting 6-8 receptions and over 100 yards, but he's their best red zone threat at this point, at least lately. He'll go up and get them, that's for sure. 

His game has evolved as he's gotten older and dealt with injuries. 

Regardless, hopefully this is the last year I have to hitch my ride to this guy. TE is an odd position after this year when you look at a lot of the "elites" getting older. Drafting one of them early might not be as much of a lock as it has been the last 3-4 years or so. 

 
biju said:
It's borderline amazing how wrong you are on a routine basis.
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Shoutout to the FBG Data Dominator, it's excellent.

Anyway, it tells me that Graham has accumulated 22.3 fantasy points (std scoring) in the first three quarters of his team's games, good for TE24 (19 catches, 163 yards, 1 TD in 8 games).

TE24 is indeed WW material (in most leagues anyway).

 
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If you're not a win now team I'd sell Graham but push for elite TE1 return on him. Someone in the league will give you that I imagine. He's not the same player but he is in a great situation all of a sudden. #1 red zone option on a team that just traded for a good LT and lost their best CB. He looks like he's primed to finish the year strong. If you're a win now team he gives you a significant advantage at TE the rest of the year. He's a FA this offseason and I doubt Sea brings him back. Who knows where he goes then......

 
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it's not hard to see potentially a drop off for Graham rest of season.

  1. he's only playing about 60% of snaps... targets are still top ten on league for TE's, he's just not playing every down.
  2. he's not putting up yardage... excellent fantasy production has solely been dependant on TD's
  3. at least half of his TD's this year have been GL jump ball TD's... how much longer are teams going to let a safety try and go 1 on one with graham at the stripe? Will NFL coaches wise-up and start to double graham and dare seattle's crummy o line to run the ball in goal to go situations? as it is RB's have gotten 25 looks in the red zone compared to 37 for WR's (and of that 25 i bet a decent chunk are looks in the passing game not just running plays)
I'm going to target a top 3 TE with a 2 for 1 trade involving graham in an attempt to sell high....

 
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Andrew74 said:
Is your avatar Graham punching you in the face?   :D
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LOL!

actually i traded henry and had to play him...oops.  I love it that SEA cannot run the ball at all...from here on out Graham could be epic.

That being said, baldwin getting tackled on the goal line was lucky...sometimes better lucky than smart (sometimes).

 
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JIMGET said:
LOL!

actually i traded henry and had to play him...oops.  I love it that SEA cannot run the ball at all...from here on out Graham could be epic.

That being said, baldwin getting tackled on the goal line was lucky...sometimes better lucky than smart (sometimes).
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No it's always better to be lucky than smart

 
He seems to be a real threat to score multiple TDS every game.  Not many players can give you that.

 
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Jimmy Graham (ankle) is questionable for Week 12 against the 49ers.

He didn't practice on Wednesday or Thursday, though that's not unusual for him. Graham has been scorching hot, collecting seven touchdowns over his last six games. He'll be a no-brainer TE1 if he gets the green light Sunday at San Francisco. That games kicks off at 4:05 PM ET.

Source: Tim Booth on Twitter 

Nov 24 - 4:45 PM
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need2know said:
He seems to be a real threat to score multiple TDS every game.  Not many players can give you that.
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Definitely. However, this is also why I think he is on the all-bust team next year. TDs are hard to reproduce year in and year out, at least from what I've seen (I could be very wrong). The guy is a huge end zone threat and I'm thrilled to have him on my team this year now (I definitely wasn't over the first month or so!) But without those TDs, he's not even startable. Many other TEs get targets plus occasional TDs. I'd rather have a TE targeted heavily on a regular basis than one like Graham who is a huge red zone threat and that's about it

 
^ TD’s are indeed difficult to reproduce year-after-year.... unless you’re a 6’ 7” b-ball playing baller. In this anomalous case, it could also be a major positive since he doesn’t need his 20’s health to run like a stallion years into the future - he only needs to be able to “jump ball” in the end zone. 

There are exceptions to many rules and Graham is one of them....

 
higgins said:
^ TD’s are indeed difficult to reproduce year-after-year.... unless you’re a 6’ 7” b-ball playing baller. In this anomalous case, it could also be a major positive since he doesn’t need his 20’s health to run like a stallion years into the future - he only needs to be able to “jump ball” in the end zone. 

There are exceptions to many rules and Graham is one of them....
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I suppose he is averaging over 7 targets a game this year. Hard to argue with that. Just frustrating to see 3/35 for 3 quarters and then suddenly 5/80/1. He very well may be an exception to the rule. I believe his contract is up after this season? That was more where my thoughts were with his TDs year after year. If he moves on from Seattle would he be used the same way as he is now? Seems like Seattle just now has figured it out. Maybe they bring him back. I would probably draft him reluctantly like I did this year because the top 2-3 were gone

 
Hoping he gets outta there. This guy should be catching big passes down the seam but Russell Wilson has already turned his back to the defense preparing to run around like a chicken with his head cut off. Once that happens big Jimmy Graham is out of the picture and the small quick WRs are the targets because they can more easily create separation when Wilson is running around. Any OC worth a crap should see the ease at which he scores in the redzone and mimic that part. Please go back to Drew Brees. All the other pieces are in place for a 2019 run.

 
lod001 said:
Hoping he gets outta there. This guy should be catching big passes down the seam but Russell Wilson has already turned his back to the defense preparing to run around like a chicken with his head cut off. Once that happens big Jimmy Graham is out of the picture and the small quick WRs are the targets because they can more easily create separation when Wilson is running around. Any OC worth a crap should see the ease at which he scores in the redzone and mimic that part. Please go back to Drew Brees. All the other pieces are in place for a 2019 run.
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Although Cook is working out like a dream in Oakland I can't imagine what Carr would do for Graham. GB could be in the market for a TE next offseason, although they were stung so bad by Bennett I can't see them going back to FA for that. No way. Ted's going to say, "see! that is what happens when you spend in FA (Bennett)"

I think Brees would be good for him again. Amazing how that franchise looked like it was headed for the abyss and suddenly they're looking like a contender again

 
Jimmy Graham caught 1-of-3 targets for -1 yards in the Seahawks' Week 15 loss to the Rams.

Graham and Doug Baldwin were both complete non-factors in the humiliating defeat, and Graham watched as No. 2 TE Luke Willson scored a 26-yard touchdown in the final quarter. Graham should rebound next week at Dallas.
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Graham got robbed of a decent reception where he took 3 steps after he caught it yet still ruled an imcomplete pass because the ball came out as he was hitting the ground (defender did help yank it out).

I hate how the NFL rules catches like this, but at least it is consistently bad?

 
I hope he gets off this team. He's useless since Wilson has his back turned towards the other EZ when Graham is running his route.

 
3 week stat line. 2 catches, 5 yards, 1TD. Run away from Seattle as fast as possible.

Currently being paid $1 million per TD.

Stat correction: 2 yards in 3 games.

 
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I've heard a lot of mixed reviews on Graham.  My buddy who is a seahawks fan says they grossly under utilize him.

Some of the footballguys articles imply he's looking much slower.  

I'm guessing it's a combination.  Thoughts?

 
jm192 said:
I've heard a lot of mixed reviews on Graham.  My buddy who is a seahawks fan says they grossly under utilize him.

Some of the footballguys articles imply he's looking much slower.  

I'm guessing it's a combination.  Thoughts?
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I guess I haven't really watched him play much this year since I just haven't seen Seahawks games but it seems like they only target him in the red zone. He isn't gonna be as athletic as he was when he was putting up 80-1200-10 or whatever but he should still easily be a mismatch against LBs and smaller safety's in the middle of the field but Seattle just doesn't target him there

 
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