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[otello]

I am honestly torn on nxc6 or nd6+. I think I prefer nxc6, but I could go either way. I think nxc6 gives them more opportunities to mess up.

Has anyone looked at nc3?

no. We have 16 hours to make a move. I will be out of pocket until later this evening, will check in later.

 

[kutta]

I am honestly torn on nxc6 or nd6+. I think I prefer nxc6, but I could go either way. I think nxc6 gives them more opportunities to mess up.

Has anyone looked at nc3?

I think Bb4 is bad for us if we play nc3.

 

[Psychopav]

White

Fair enough.

I think with Nf6+ we end up trading queens. I prefer Nxc6. I agree it gives them more opportunities to make a mistake, and it allows us a little opportunity to get our king's bishop in play, maybe even get our queen on the black squares if things break right.

 

[kutta]

White

Fair enough.

I think with Nf6+ we end up trading queens. I prefer Nxc6. I agree it gives them more opportunities to make a mistake, and it allows us a little opportunity to get our king's bishop in play, maybe even get our queen on the black squares if things break right.

What do you think of Nd6+?

 

[Psychopav]

White

Fair enough.

I think with Nf6+ we end up trading queens. I prefer Nxc6. I agree it gives them more opportunities to make a mistake, and it allows us a little opportunity to get our king's bishop in play, maybe even get our queen on the black squares if things break right.

What do you think of Nd6+?

I assumed this:

17.Nd6+ Bxd6 18.exd6 Nxd4 19.Qxd4 Qxd4 20.Rxd4

Which is probably a best case scenario for exchanging queens but this board looks awful sparse of white now. I like it better than Nf6+ but unless we have a good attack plan from Nd6+ I would prefer to hang on to the queen.

 

[Psychopav]

Than again, I guess we wouldn't have to take on 19. We could go Qc3 instead. Yeah, that might work.

 

[SacramentoBob]

OMG you guys are only on move 16?

 

[otello]

A close call, but I say we have consensus on Nxc6 as white. We have put a lot of thought into this. Please confirm asap. We have 12 hours to move.

 

[kutta]

Than again, I guess we wouldn't have to take on 19. We could go Qc3 instead. Yeah, that might work.

We can't play that. They will take the knight on e4

 

[kutta]

I'm good with nxc6, but if DB is set on nd6 I can live with that too.

 

[otello]

Black:

They played cxb5.

I am kind of liking Qb6 here. There is no way they are getting their black bishop over to force us off that diagonal anytime soon. It also opens up our first rank for our rooks, specifically to get to the c file.

I think qb6 is a solid move. Any other thoughts here?

I'm down with Qb6 as black.

we have consensus here.

moving qb6 as black today.

 

[otello]

I'm good with nxc6, but if DB is set on nd6 I can live with that too.

he and others can speak up if that is the case. We have labored over this one for a while. Db, others? Speak now...

 

[Psychopav]

I'm good with nxc6, but if DB is set on nd6 I can live with that too.

he and others can speak up if that is the case. We have labored over this one for a while. Db, others? Speak now...

Otello, are you down with nxc6?

 

[otello]

Yes. We are in a tough spot with that last move by black. Let's see what happens.

 

[Psychopav]

Black:

They played cxb5.

I am kind of liking Qb6 here. There is no way they are getting their black bishop over to force us off that diagonal anytime soon. It also opens up our first rank for our rooks, specifically to get to the c file.

I think qb6 is a solid move. Any other thoughts here?

I'm down with Qb6 as black.

we have consensus here.

moving qb6 as black today.

If they move g5 in the next couple of moves, we will probably respond with f5. In that case, we might be better off with our queen on d7. Rc1 might be a better move to leave that option open.

 

[otello]

I'm good with nxc6, but if DB is set on nd6 I can live with that too.

he and others can speak up if that is the case. We have labored over this one for a while. Db, others? Speak now...

Otello, are you down with nxc6?

yes.

 

[otello]

Black:

They played cxb5.

I am kind of liking Qb6 here. There is no way they are getting their black bishop over to force us off that diagonal anytime soon. It also opens up our first rank for our rooks, specifically to get to the c file.

I think qb6 is a solid move. Any other thoughts here?

I'm down with Qb6 as black.

we have consensus here.

moving qb6 as black today.

If they move g5 in the next couple of moves, we will probably respond with f5. In that case, we might be better off with our queen on d7. Rc1 might be a better move to leave that option open.

so you are suggesting rc1, then?

 

[Psychopav]

Black:

They played cxb5.

I am kind of liking Qb6 here. There is no way they are getting their black bishop over to force us off that diagonal anytime soon. It also opens up our first rank for our rooks, specifically to get to the c file.

I think qb6 is a solid move. Any other thoughts here?

I'm down with Qb6 as black.

we have consensus here.

moving qb6 as black today.

If they move g5 in the next couple of moves, we will probably respond with f5. In that case, we might be better off with our queen on d7. Rc1 might be a better move to leave that option open.

so you are suggesting rc1, then?

I am suggesting rc1 but you 3 are the pros. I'm here to learn.

 

[otello]

White: I am moving Nxc6

 

[otello]

Black:

They played cxb5.

I am kind of liking Qb6 here. There is no way they are getting their black bishop over to force us off that diagonal anytime soon. It also opens up our first rank for our rooks, specifically to get to the c file.

I think qb6 is a solid move. Any other thoughts here?

I'm down with Qb6 as black.

we have consensus here.

moving qb6 as black today.

If they move g5 in the next couple of moves, we will probably respond with f5. In that case, we might be better off with our queen on d7. Rc1 might be a better move to leave that option open.

so you are suggesting rc1, then?

I am suggesting rc1 but you 3 are the pros. I'm here to learn.

i am no pro, my friend. Just having some fun. We have some time on this move.

 

[otello]

White Nxc6 moved

 

[dancingbones]

White Nxc6 moved

Didn't get to respond this AM, but I think we're good here.

Let's see what they do now.

 

[otello]

Psychopav, how do we protect our a pawn with your Rc1 idea, where we move our queen off of the diagonal protecting it.

 

[Psychopav]

Psychopav, how do we protect our a pawn with your Rc1 idea, where we move our queen off of the diagonal protecting it.

It depends on what they do. If they advance their b pawn, then I think we go Qxb6. If they move Rb1 or Qb2 then I'd advance our b pawn.

 

[dancingbones]

Black:

They played cxb5.

I am kind of liking Qb6 here. There is no way they are getting their black bishop over to force us off that diagonal anytime soon. It also opens up our first rank for our rooks, specifically to get to the c file.

I think qb6 is a solid move. Any other thoughts here?

I'm down with Qb6 as black.

we have consensus here.

moving qb6 as black today.

If they move g5 in the next couple of moves, we will probably respond with f5. In that case, we might be better off with our queen on d7. Rc1 might be a better move to leave that option open.

I think we'd actually be better off with our queen on b6 in that case.

g5, f5

If they take f5 with their e pawn, we take with the Knight & have a very strong position (their d pawn is isolated, & we have our rook already on a semi-open f file)

 

[kutta]

Sand PM'd me some smack going on in the X thread. Pizzatyme is dissing us:

Is team O okay? Can they still fog a mirror?

They're talking, but not sending anything over. Probably because the last 25 posts are "OH ####! Our white game is ####ed!"

 

[Psychopav]

Sand PM'd me some smack going on in the X thread. Pizzatyme is dissing us:

Is team O okay? Can they still fog a mirror?

They're talking, but not sending anything over. Probably because the last 25 posts are "OH ####! Our white game is ####ed!"

Sounds like they nailed it.

 

[kutta]

I actually think we have some goodness in our white game. I am assuming we are going to trade queens and end up like:

17. Nxc6, QxQ

18. RxQ, bxc6

I really don't see much debate there. I suppose they could play bxc4 first and we would have the decision to trade queens, but I think they are going to take the queen. After:

19. Be2, Bc5? or (Bb4?) - I just don't see much for them here except that

20. Bh5

I like this for us. They can't play Bb7 because we take the pawn at f7. If they 0-0 we could play h4. It feels like their pieces are pretty bottled up, and it's time to attack.

We also need to get our rook to f1 unless they castle and we play h4 because then he might be just fine on the h file.

 

[dancingbones]

I actually think we have some goodness in our white game. I am assuming we are going to trade queens and end up like:

17. Nxc4, QxQ

18. RxQ, bxc4

I really don't see much debate there. I suppose they could play bxc4 first and we would have the decision to trade queens, but I think they are going to take the queen. After:

19. Be2, Bc5? or (Bb4?) - I just don't see much for them here except that

20. Bh5

I like this for us. They can't play Bb7 because we take the pawn at f7. If they 0-0 we could play h4. It feels like their pieces are pretty bottled up, and it's time to attack.

We also need to get our rook to f1 unless they castle and we play h4 because then he might be just fine on the h file.

I think you mean c6 instead of c4.

 

[kutta]

I actually think we have some goodness in our white game. I am assuming we are going to trade queens and end up like:

17. Nxc4, QxQ

18. RxQ, bxc4

I really don't see much debate there. I suppose they could play bxc4 first and we would have the decision to trade queens, but I think they are going to take the queen. After:

19. Be2, Bc5? or (Bb4?) - I just don't see much for them here except that

20. Bh5

I like this for us. They can't play Bb7 because we take the pawn at f7. If they 0-0 we could play h4. It feels like their pieces are pretty bottled up, and it's time to attack.

We also need to get our rook to f1 unless they castle and we play h4 because then he might be just fine on the h file.

I think you mean c6 instead of c4.

Jesus Christ! What the hell is wrong with me??

 

[kutta]

Hopefully I can get the syntax right on this one...

If they do decide to take the Knight with the b-pawn, I think that's good for us.

17. Nxc6, bxc6

18. Qf3?, Qa5+

19. c3, Be7 or Bc5

20. Nf6+ with the threat of taking the pawn at c6 with our Q.

They could play

19...., Bb7

Which I think slows us down a bit but I'm still OK with it.

The bottom line is that we need to get our asses in gear on an attack because if they get going first we could be screwed.

 

[otello]

We are prepared to do that, K.

 

[otello]

Black:

They played cxb5.

I am kind of liking Qb6 here. There is no way they are getting their black bishop over to force us off that diagonal anytime soon. It also opens up our first rank for our rooks, specifically to get to the c file.

I think qb6 is a solid move. Any other thoughts here?

I'm down with Qb6 as black.

we have consensus here.

moving qb6 as black today.

If they move g5 in the next couple of moves, we will probably respond with f5. In that case, we might be better off with our queen on d7. Rc1 might be a better move to leave that option open.

I think we'd actually be better off with our queen on b6 in that case.g5, f5

If they take f5 with their e pawn, we take with the Knight & have a very strong position (their d pawn is isolated, & we have our rook already on a semi-open f file)

we cool with qb6 as black?

 

[kutta]

Black:

They played cxb5.

I am kind of liking Qb6 here. There is no way they are getting their black bishop over to force us off that diagonal anytime soon. It also opens up our first rank for our rooks, specifically to get to the c file.

I think qb6 is a solid move. Any other thoughts here?

I'm down with Qb6 as black.

we have consensus here.

moving qb6 as black today.

If they move g5 in the next couple of moves, we will probably respond with f5. In that case, we might be better off with our queen on d7. Rc1 might be a better move to leave that option open.

I think we'd actually be better off with our queen on b6 in that case.g5, f5

If they take f5 with their e pawn, we take with the Knight & have a very strong position (their d pawn is isolated, & we have our rook already on a semi-open f file)

we cool with qb6 as black?

yes

 

[Psychopav]

Black

Yes, Qb6

 

[otello]

Will move qb6 as black

 

[otello]

White: They took our queen. Qxd3

 

[otello]

Black - Qb6 moved

 

[otello]

White - take queen with rook or bishop -

Kutta above:

17. Nxc4, QxQ

18. RxQ, bxc4

 

[kutta]

We have a couple choices. We could play Nf6 right now and force the knight off d7. We could take the queen with our pawn or our bishop. Or we could take the queen with our rook.

Taking with the bishop is interesting because it allows us to castle easily, but I think taking with the rook is best because it gets us set up to double up rooks and get our bishop on e2.

 

[otello]

Taking with pawn is good because we will be able to provide further support to our e pawn, and also free up our black bishop.

 

[kutta]

Taking with pawn is good because we will be able to provide further support to our e pawn, and also free up our black bishop.

I just hate blocking our access to the d file. I think the only way we win this game is by attacking, and I don't see much of an attack if we take with the pawn.

I agree with your thought about supporting the e pawn though.

 

[otello]

Taking with pawn is good because we will be able to provide further support to our e pawn, and also free up our black bishop.

I just hate blocking our access to the d file. I think the only way we win this game is by attacking, and I don't see much of an attack if we take with the pawn.I agree with your thought about supporting the e pawn though.

it will free up our white bishop as well to get centralized as well.

 

[Psychopav]

I like taking with the bishop. Taking with the pawn looks like it just bottles up our bishop even more.

Otello, where do you plan to attack after taking with the pawn?

 

[otello]

I like taking with the bishop. Taking with the pawn looks like it just bottles up our bishop even more.

Otello, where do you plan to attack after taking with the pawn?

we would need to play d4 to protect the e pawn and open up for our white bishop.If we intend to play Nd6+ after they play bxc6, it may make sense to take the queen with the Rook, whereas if we took Q with pawn we would have doubled pawns. P makes a good point. How we take the Q should support our attack.

 

[dancingbones]

I like taking with the bishop. Taking with the pawn looks like it just bottles up our bishop even more.

Otello, where do you plan to attack after taking with the pawn?

we would need to play d4 to protect the e pawn and open up for our white bishop.If we intend to play Nd6+ after they play bxc6, it may make sense to take the queen with the Rook, whereas if we took Q with pawn we would have doubled pawns. P makes a good point. How we take the Q should support our attack.

If we take with the Rook. (option A)

18. Rxd3 bxc6

19. Be2

then I think they move their black bishop - Bc5, Bb4, or Bg7

they could also pull their Knight to c5 here

If we take with the Bishop (option B)

18. Bxd3 bxc6

19. O-O or Rf1

Same move options as above. Which position to we like better for an attack?

I think option B has us further along in our attack, yes?

 

[Otis]

Just wanted to say I'm honored to have a team here.

 

[otello]

X

 

[kutta]

I like taking with the bishop. Taking with the pawn looks like it just bottles up our bishop even more.

Otello, where do you plan to attack after taking with the pawn?

we would need to play d4 to protect the e pawn and open up for our white bishop.If we intend to play Nd6+ after they play bxc6, it may make sense to take the queen with the Rook, whereas if we took Q with pawn we would have doubled pawns. P makes a good point. How we take the Q should support our attack.

If we take with the Rook. (option A)

18. Rxd3 bxc6

19. Be2

then I think they move their black bishop - Bc5, Bb4, or Bg7

they could also pull their Knight to c5 here

If we take with the Bishop (option B)

18. Bxd3 bxc6

19. O-O or Rf1

Same move options as above. Which position to we like better for an attack?

I think option B has us further along in our attack, yes?

I guess I really like the idea of getting our bishop to h5, and I don't see a good way to do that by taking the queen with the bishop. Let's look a little deeper into taking with the bishop and see what kind of attack we really do get. I'll do that tonight for a bit.

 

[otello]

Black

They castled O-O