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Team O Chess (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter otello
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otello
Footballguy
otello
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dancingbones
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otello
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dancingbones
Footballguy
White
What about:
21. Nxc5 Bxc5
22. Rf1 O-O (or Rf8)
23. Rdf3
They cannot protect the f pawn here.
What about:
21. Nxc5 Bxc5
22. Rf1 O-O (or Rf8)
23. Rdf3
They cannot protect the f pawn here.
kutta
Footballguy
Nd6, Bxd6
Rxd6, Bb7
Bf2, Ne4
Rxe6
This looks really good, but I don't see how we don't lose material with Ke7.
kutta
Footballguy
otello
Footballguy
kutta
Footballguy
I hope we aren't missing something but I think they are hosed
Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
White
I haven't had a chance to look yet (been out all day) but I wouldn't want to make a move just to gain a pawn. We're already down significantly in pawns so I think we need to go on the offensive. If we take a pawn and end up in better position, that would be enough. Tactics alone just to gain a free pawn won't help us I think. Too late for that.
I haven't had a chance to look yet (been out all day) but I wouldn't want to make a move just to gain a pawn. We're already down significantly in pawns so I think we need to go on the offensive. If we take a pawn and end up in better position, that would be enough. Tactics alone just to gain a free pawn won't help us I think. Too late for that.
otello
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kutta
Footballguy
Yes. Kd7. I think they just take our rook with their pawn then
kutta
Footballguy
We Are only down 2 pawns. If we can win a pawn while attacking I think that bodes well for us
Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
They might trade for our c pawn:
21.Nxc5 Bxc5
22.Rf1 Rf8
23.Rdf3 Bb4+
24.c3 Ba5
25.Rxf7 Rxf7
26.Rxf7 Bxc3+
Not that bad. I'm starting to dislike Nd6+ and Nf6+..
kutta
Footballguy
How about nxn, bxn, rf1, rf8, rc3?
I think we win a pawn and we allow our rook to get close to the 7th rank. If we can get it there, we can gang up on their f pawn. They would get out g pawn by eventually playing Bb7.
ETA: well it looks like them playing Bb4 after Rc3 is a winner for them.
I think we win a pawn and we allow our rook to get close to the 7th rank. If we can get it there, we can gang up on their f pawn. They would get out g pawn by eventually playing Bb7.
ETA: well it looks like them playing Bb4 after Rc3 is a winner for them.
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Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
How about Rf6 then iinstead of Rc3?
otello
Footballguy
If we play Rc3, can't they play Bb4 and pin our rook to our king?Also, might they play O-O instead of Rf8?
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kutta
Footballguy
Yes, see my edit above. The Bb4 move screws us.
I am leaning towards what DB suggested earlier: I don't think we can win the f pawn, but we can cause some pretty good trouble for them and really lock them up.
21. Nxc5 Bxc5
22. Rf1 O-O
23. Rdf3 Ra7
24. h4
If they take the h pawn, that's great. It opens up the g file for our rook. If they don't, we can take their g pawn and work to get our rook onto the g file or the h file which would result in a pretty good attack.
I like this because they are really tied up. Their rooks have to stay put (we may have to play Ke2 at some point to avoid a check at b1, but i they try such shenanigans I think we can get our attack going before they get their's going.
kutta
Footballguy
I agree.
Good point about the order of the rook moves. We may want to play Rf3 to force their hand into castling or playing Rf8. Then we could decide to maybe play h4 while our other rook is still on the h file.
dancingbones
Footballguy
I agree Nxn is the move here. We can talk Rook strategy after they take with the bishop.
dancingbones
Footballguy
otello
Footballguy
We want to also put pressure on g file. Use of our g and h pawns will be key, along with rooks. I think this is a close game, but we have some interesting ideas to develop. Advancing their a pawn is the least of their thoughts at this time. I am enjoying this more than the tournament to be honest.
kutta
Footballguy
otello
Footballguy
Moved.
kutta
Footballguy
I think they can move their queen and give up the exchange or push the pawn and be really screwed.
otello
Footballguy
rook for bishop may be better for them.
kutta
Footballguy
I agree
kutta
Footballguy
Oh yeah. When I get to my computer I'll pass along the latest. It's been crickets for awhile.Kutta, lack of snide e-mails about the time we're taking to move :noted:.
kutta
Footballguy
I think our next move combo as white should be rf3, Bf2, and o-o. If they take our bishop on f2, we take with the f3 rook. This way we get rid of their powerful bishop and put tons of pressure on their f pawn. We can then work at playing rf6 and h5.
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kutta
Footballguy
They moved in both games:
Us as black - they moved Qe1.
This is kind of what Otello and I were discussing earlier. It looks like they are choosing to go down the exchange rather than lose a piece and give us a good attack. I think BxR is a no-brainer here. I've looked around and don't see anything else super clever, but someone else might find something. I think we follow it up with Rc8 and g5. I think it's time in this game to just grind it out and not make any mistakes. When we have an opportunity to trade material we should take it, especially queens. Our rook will rule the roost with all those backwards pawns they have.
Us as white - they moved BxN
I am NOT a fan of their bishop on that diagonal. I think their one big threat right now is to play Rb8 and threaten to play Rb1+ and try to win our c pawn also. If we can castle we can eliminate that threat. Here's what I'm thinking:
Rf3, 0-0 (they are forced to play either 0-0, Rf8, or Ra7 here. I don't see anything else reasonable. If they play Rf8, we play Rf6 winning their h pawn, so I don't see them doing that).
Bf2, BxB (I think they pretty much have to take the bishop. If they don't, our bishop will be covering a7 so they can't play their rook there. I really hope they don't take it because we have some great attacks if the don't.)
RxB, ? (I really don't know what they will do here. Maybe c4 so they can get their white bishop into play).
0-0
Whatever they do I think we 0-0. They have to play ra7 at some point to protect the f pawn. I like our spot here. Their pieces are all tied up protecting that pawn. We can now try h4 to see if we can get an attack going over there. The good thing is that they can't really ever move their rook on f8 because we will take the pawn, so their king is going to be trapped over there.
Overall I think we should win our black game and have a good shot at our white game. We should be able to at least pull out a draw in the white game.
Us as black - they moved Qe1.
This is kind of what Otello and I were discussing earlier. It looks like they are choosing to go down the exchange rather than lose a piece and give us a good attack. I think BxR is a no-brainer here. I've looked around and don't see anything else super clever, but someone else might find something. I think we follow it up with Rc8 and g5. I think it's time in this game to just grind it out and not make any mistakes. When we have an opportunity to trade material we should take it, especially queens. Our rook will rule the roost with all those backwards pawns they have.
Us as white - they moved BxN
I am NOT a fan of their bishop on that diagonal. I think their one big threat right now is to play Rb8 and threaten to play Rb1+ and try to win our c pawn also. If we can castle we can eliminate that threat. Here's what I'm thinking:
Rf3, 0-0 (they are forced to play either 0-0, Rf8, or Ra7 here. I don't see anything else reasonable. If they play Rf8, we play Rf6 winning their h pawn, so I don't see them doing that).
Bf2, BxB (I think they pretty much have to take the bishop. If they don't, our bishop will be covering a7 so they can't play their rook there. I really hope they don't take it because we have some great attacks if the don't.)
RxB, ? (I really don't know what they will do here. Maybe c4 so they can get their white bishop into play).
0-0
Whatever they do I think we 0-0. They have to play ra7 at some point to protect the f pawn. I like our spot here. Their pieces are all tied up protecting that pawn. We can now try h4 to see if we can get an attack going over there. The good thing is that they can't really ever move their rook on f8 because we will take the pawn, so their king is going to be trapped over there.
Overall I think we should win our black game and have a good shot at our white game. We should be able to at least pull out a draw in the white game.
kutta
Footballguy
Kutta:
Sent 10 April 2014 - 10:24 AM
I am really looking forward to your next few moves. Let's leave it at that.
Sand:
You have the other one now (Rxc1). Our more interesting one (at present) should come along soon. We have it figured, just need to get a quorum and consensus.
Sand:
#### your brick yet?
We're kickin' back and taking in some sun for the weekend. I expect we'll here from you boys Monday morning?
Kutta (after Bh6 in black game).
Check out our next move in your white game and let me know how hot that sun is feeling. I'm pretty sure that game is lost for you.
Kutta (next day):
How are you boys doing over there? It's pretty quiet in here...
Sand:
Dunno - I haven't seen a move yet. But then again I have been out racing rather than sitting inside playing chess.
Edit: Never got a notification. Not sure how that got missed. Looks like a 1-1 situation.
Kutta:
Well, let's see how things play out. There is no shame in resigning and saving us all a little time.
Sand:
Ditto.
Kutta (after their Qe8 move in our black game)
That must have been painful...
Sent 10 April 2014 - 10:24 AM
I am really looking forward to your next few moves. Let's leave it at that.
Sand:
You have the other one now (Rxc1). Our more interesting one (at present) should come along soon. We have it figured, just need to get a quorum and consensus.
Sand:
#### your brick yet?
We're kickin' back and taking in some sun for the weekend. I expect we'll here from you boys Monday morning?
Kutta (after Bh6 in black game).
Check out our next move in your white game and let me know how hot that sun is feeling. I'm pretty sure that game is lost for you.
Kutta (next day):
How are you boys doing over there? It's pretty quiet in here...
Sand:
Dunno - I haven't seen a move yet. But then again I have been out racing rather than sitting inside playing chess.
Edit: Never got a notification. Not sure how that got missed. Looks like a 1-1 situation.
Kutta:
Well, let's see how things play out. There is no shame in resigning and saving us all a little time.
Sand:
Ditto.
Kutta (after their Qe8 move in our black game)
That must have been painful...
