Why will they not be able to resign these players? I'm not sure I'd want to pay Jones what he may want...but why can't they?Also, Braves need a little pitching help no? Looks to me like they have a great 1-2 combo, a solid #3 and then what (including bullpen)
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Teixeira to the Braves (thread title change) (1 Viewer)
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culdeus
Footballguy
Pretty sure Blalock is being groomed for the 1B job. For now you'll see Wilkerson back there. Next year ideally it would be Botts at DH.
harrycarey
Footballguy
Rosenthal said the Braves have moved to the forefront of the Dotel bidding
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
No kidding. There was an article on ESPN.com a few months ago and it revealed that Jone had the WORST defensive zone rating for ALL outfielders last year. And he's been in the bottom half of the league for a few years now.He put on all of that weight to try to become a HR hitter and it cost him his range in the outfield. Now he's just another bum that either strikes out or hits a HR. If he was an inconsistent hitter but still one of the best defensive fielders in the game, I wouldn't dislike him so much, but I've been advocating that the Braves get rid of him for about 4 years now.
Everytime he comes up to bat my wife rolls her eyes as I say "Here comes another strikeout from the bum again."
Weapon of Mass Instruction
Watch my feet!
I meant "won't" sign him due to tight purse strings.guru_007 said:
Weapon of Mass Instruction
Watch my feet!
Harris (.321), Renteria, Jones, Jones, Tex, Francouer, Johnson, McCannorshadyridr said:
Johnson, Renteria, Jones, Jones, Tex, Francouer, McCann, Diaz (.340)
Plus, these lineups don't include Yunel Escobar a very, very compelling young player.
Jiggyonthehut
Footballguy
The offense is going to be scary.harrycarey
Footballguy
And if we add Dotel like Rosenthal says we're close to doing, our bullpen will improve a lot (assuming Soriano gets enough rest)The offense is going to be scary.
is this enough for the Braves to bypass the Mets?harrycarey
Footballguy
not unless the Braves add a 3rd SPChuck James could be that, but he kills the bullpen by throwing 100 pitches in 5 innings
Capella
Footballguy
what's the problem exactly? they're both of age.
ScottNorwood
Footballcutie
It's still creepy
Capella
Footballguy
I guess it was 3 years ago. He's 21 now.
yeah but 2 kids already in three years. thats pretty quick fast. I may have chosen a different path if I were an 18 year old stud prospect
Jiggyonthehut
Footballguy
Yep but with a bullpen of Dotel, Moylan, Paronto, Soriano and Wickman, he doesn't have to do late into the game. Its becoming more and move obvious that the Braves are not going after SP because of a perceived lack of an adequate #3 on the market. Instead, the braves are loading up on RP to create a scenario where, in a short series such as the playoffs, the Braves can dominate the first two games behind that stellar lineup and excellent SP from Smoltz and Hudson and then ride the meat of the bullpen in game 3. This way, the Braves can take control of a 5 game series and would be in position to make an early run in 7 game series. But an injury to either Smoltz or Hudson would but these plans on the backburner.So with those 2 moves and the Mets HUGE move of getting Castillois this enough for the Braves to bypass the Mets?
not unless the Braves add a 3rd SPChuck James could be that, but he kills the bullpen by throwing 100 pitches in 5 innings
Jiggyonthehut
Footballguy
Perhaps but bagging a teacher while you're still in school is every boy's dream.EDIT: And she's REALLY HOT.yeah but 2 kids already in three years. thats pretty quick fast. I may have chosen a different path if I were an 18 year old stud prospect
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tikigods
Footballguy
Paronto as closer?
potato
Footballguy
Scott Norwoods Mom
Footballguy
WTG son
harrycarey
Footballguy
Escobar and Jo Jo Reyes for Bronson Arroyo being discussed
pgreenfan
Footballguy
I really was hoping the Rangers would have gotten Reyes.
culdeus
Footballguy
Salty set to start at 1B tonight. Also sets record for longest Ranger last name with 14 characters.
Weapon of Mass Instruction
Watch my feet!
Now that would be immensely stupid. Escobar is a five tooler. I love that kid. NO FREAKIN' WAY. He is basically the successor to either Chipper or Edgar.harrycarey said:
Jiggyonthehut
Footballguy
This guy knows things.EDIT: Though I do like AAA prospect Brent Lillibridge more long-term than Esco. But that giving up Escobar for Arroyo IMO isn't really a good option.
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harrycarey
Footballguy
I agree that we can't deplete our prospects further.... after Reyes are there any other young starters that can help us anytime soon? We also have Lillibridge at short in AAA, and i heard some say he could replace Andruw in CF and be a leadoff hitter. We need to keep Brandon Jones (of) as well, maybe someone likes Thorman.
Jiggyonthehut
Footballguy
Well that depends on whether Matt Harrison is part of the Teixeira deal. He's a middle of the order lefty that has pitched well in AA Mississippi. Reyes is a better prospect, however. I also was really high on Neftali Perez, one confirmed part of the Teixeira trade. He's a power arm that has MR/closer written all over him but has location issues. But we'll see how he pans out in Texas. As for prospects still in the system, Tommy Hanson is a few years away but really has dominated his level of play (2.54 ERA, 78 Inn, 29 BB, 98 SO, 7 HR, .196 OBA) and is potential ace material. Tall guy with great stuff, potential to be a top of the order guy but that will be at least a year or two away. Also Eric Cordier is a good 3-pitch guy with an overpowering fastball. He has fantastic stuff but has battled injuries and is slated to have TJ surgery soon. Won't pitch until '08 assuming a full recovery and certainly wont find himself in Atlanta for a few years.
Jiggyonthehut
Footballguy
Dotel to the Braves in exchange for Kyle Davies. 
Davies had a miserable outing after being demoted to AAA. Walks are a huge issue and often what does him in. Again, its a trade to become immediately better and, because I'm down on Davies, I think we end up with the better option even if Dotel is just a rental.
Also an update on the bigger trade. It ended up being Teixeira + Mahay <-------> Salty, Andrus, Feliz, Harrison AND Beau Jones.
Another SP traded out of the Braves' system but he's a ways away from any major-league action.
EDIT: We have added three players to the roster (Tex, Mahay and Dotel) and lost two (Ledezma and Salty). Pena will likely be called back up to backup McCann, leaving the roster at 27 active. Meaning Asciano will definitely be sent down and either Yates/Paronto will be released. ---> leaves the roster at 25.
EDIT(2): Still looking for a SP. One minute to the deadline.
Davies had a miserable outing after being demoted to AAA. Walks are a huge issue and often what does him in. Again, its a trade to become immediately better and, because I'm down on Davies, I think we end up with the better option even if Dotel is just a rental.
Also an update on the bigger trade. It ended up being Teixeira + Mahay <-------> Salty, Andrus, Feliz, Harrison AND Beau Jones.
Another SP traded out of the Braves' system but he's a ways away from any major-league action.
EDIT: We have added three players to the roster (Tex, Mahay and Dotel) and lost two (Ledezma and Salty). Pena will likely be called back up to backup McCann, leaving the roster at 27 active. Meaning Asciano will definitely be sent down and either Yates/Paronto will be released. ---> leaves the roster at 25.
EDIT(2): Still looking for a SP. One minute to the deadline.
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Weapon of Mass Instruction
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I bet there is another trade that we don't know about yet that will trickle out as approval comes after the deadline. My guesses on players involved? Thorman and/or Wickman and/or
harrycarey
Footballguy
1100 AM in Cleveland is reporting that there is a possible twist to this Wickman deal and it could end up being a big trade that goes down to the deadline with league approval. They have a contigent deal in place with Cleveland and JS has jumped in and is in hot pursuit of Javier Vazquez.
The Braves are looking to trade Wickman to the Indians for Cliff Lee. Then JS trades Lee, Reyes, and Escobar to the White Sox for Vazquez.
The Braves are looking to trade Wickman to the Indians for Cliff Lee. Then JS trades Lee, Reyes, and Escobar to the White Sox for Vazquez.
Jiggyonthehut
Footballguy
Well there is another--but for another reliever. Royce Ring LRP for Will Startup + Wilfredo Ledezma.
Its a good deal but we still need SP. Ring is a hard throwing lefty with a high # of K's but also struggles mightily with walks. Essentially, a McBride clone.EDIT: Unless we send Ring down to the minors, we will have to cut yet another person from the roster.
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Jiggyonthehut
Footballguy
Pnishthm said:
Sadly, the trade was finalized only 90 minutes before the deadline so Tex wont be in the lineup.
Ike Turner
Footballguy
Can't even imagine the chaos going on in NL-Only Roto leagues right now.
A few years back in an NL only league I was in, a near fist fight broke out when Fred McGriff went from the Rays to the Cubs.
A few years back in an NL only league I was in, a near fist fight broke out when Fred McGriff went from the Rays to the Cubs.
Jiggyonthehut
Footballguy
Deliverance
0-0, 1 RBI
0-0, 1 RBI
Jiggyonthehut
Footballguy
Jiggyonthehut
Footballguy
ANOTHER HR...2RBI Today, 2R
Since Joining the Braves...6RBI, 4R
We are all witnesses
Since Joining the Braves...6RBI, 4R
We are all witnesses
oso diablo
Footballguy
culdeus
Footballguy
bumpHow you liking Mr. EmptyNumbers now?
tikigods
Footballguy
Trade seems to be even-steven right now.
