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Texas man sues Ford dealership after his truck ends up on an ISIS vid (1 Viewer)

Fennis said:
GroveDiesel said:
Sounds like he has received a ton of harassment because of it though. I think he has a legit claim.
What's his legit claim? The dealership didn't sell the car to ISIS either.
His claim is that he attempted to remove the decal himself precisely to avoid bad PR if the truck was sold to someone that would do something in it that would make his company look bad, but a representative of the dealership told him that they would do it instead in order to not damage the paint. The dealership did not remove the decal and the previous owner's company did experience bad publicity and harassment due to the dealership's negligence.
That's a nice narrative that conveniently fits his lawsuit. Even if what he said is true (I doubt the dealership will agree to this version) was the eventual sale to ISIS and being captured on camera a predictable consequence of this truck being sold with his name intact on it?

Besides, this yahoo should just change his logo to something like - "We'll blow the #### out of your #### problem!" At least make a little hay with it.
It's absolutely foreseeable that somebody would buy the truck and do something stupid in it. The exact person and circumstance is only relevant in calculating damages. The only thing that matters in determining their negligence was whether the dealership should have reasonably foreseen the possibility of someone doing something dumb in the truck with the contractor's decal and creating bad publicity for the contractor. And I believe that that possibility absolutely should have been foreseen.

At the very least, I think it's reasonable enough that a judge/jury should get to decide.

 
Fennis said:
GroveDiesel said:
Sounds like he has received a ton of harassment because of it though. I think he has a legit claim.
What's his legit claim? The dealership didn't sell the car to ISIS either.
His claim is that he attempted to remove the decal himself precisely to avoid bad PR if the truck was sold to someone that would do something in it that would make his company look bad, but a representative of the dealership told him that they would do it instead in order to not damage the paint. The dealership did not remove the decal and the previous owner's company did experience bad publicity and harassment due to the dealership's negligence.
That's a nice narrative that conveniently fits his lawsuit. Even if what he said is true (I doubt the dealership will agree to this version) was the eventual sale to ISIS and being captured on camera a predictable consequence of this truck being sold with his name intact on it?

Besides, this yahoo should just change his logo to something like - "We'll blow the #### out of your #### problem!" At least make a little hay with it.
It's absolutely foreseeable that somebody would buy the truck and do something stupid in it. The exact person and circumstance is only relevant in calculating damages. The only thing that matters in determining their negligence was whether the dealership should have reasonably foreseen the possibility of someone doing something dumb in the truck with the contractor's decal and creating bad publicity for the contractor. And I believe that that possibility absolutely should have been foreseen.

At the very least, I think it's reasonable enough that a judge/jury should get to decide.
Exactly why this numbnuts should have removed the decal himself. I don't buy for a second he tried to do it himself at the dealership. That was probably made up by his POS lawyer.

 
dealership has gotta be an ISIS front, right? A truck with a decal on it has gotta be worth a decent amount less than a truck without one.

 
Officer Pete Malloy said:
Sand said:
GroveDiesel said:
That is pretty funny.

I doubt he's losing business though. Money grab imo.
Sounds like he has received a ton of harassment because of it though. I think he has a legit claim.
He accepted cash for an item. Once he did that his claim on anything not in writing in the contract having to do with that sale is null and void. Sadly he has no recourse - frivolous lawsuit.
Eh...that's not what this is about.
To a troll, every thread looks like it's in the shadowy underside of a bridge.

 
Fennis said:
GroveDiesel said:
Sounds like he has received a ton of harassment because of it though. I think he has a legit claim.
What's his legit claim? The dealership didn't sell the car to ISIS either.
His claim is that he attempted to remove the decal himself precisely to avoid bad PR if the truck was sold to someone that would do something in it that would make his company look bad, but a representative of the dealership told him that they would do it instead in order to not damage the paint. The dealership did not remove the decal and the previous owner's company did experience bad publicity and harassment due to the dealership's negligence.
That's a nice narrative that conveniently fits his lawsuit. Even if what he said is true (I doubt the dealership will agree to this version) was the eventual sale to ISIS and being captured on camera a predictable consequence of this truck being sold with his name intact on it?

Besides, this yahoo should just change his logo to something like - "We'll blow the #### out of your #### problem!" At least make a little hay with it.
It's absolutely foreseeable that somebody would buy the truck and do something stupid in it. The exact person and circumstance is only relevant in calculating damages. The only thing that matters in determining their negligence was whether the dealership should have reasonably foreseen the possibility of someone doing something dumb in the truck with the contractor's decal and creating bad publicity for the contractor. And I believe that that possibility absolutely should have been foreseen.

At the very least, I think it's reasonable enough that a judge/jury should get to decide.
Exactly why this numbnuts should have removed the decal himself. I don't buy for a second he tried to do it himself at the dealership. That was probably made up by his POS lawyer.
Why do you think that? I can't imagine anyone selling a work vehicle and not having the decal removed. Seems like a logical explanation that the dealership told him they'd take care of it.

 
Fennis said:
GroveDiesel said:
Sounds like he has received a ton of harassment because of it though. I think he has a legit claim.
What's his legit claim? The dealership didn't sell the car to ISIS either.
His claim is that he attempted to remove the decal himself precisely to avoid bad PR if the truck was sold to someone that would do something in it that would make his company look bad, but a representative of the dealership told him that they would do it instead in order to not damage the paint. The dealership did not remove the decal and the previous owner's company did experience bad publicity and harassment due to the dealership's negligence.
That's a nice narrative that conveniently fits his lawsuit. Even if what he said is true (I doubt the dealership will agree to this version) was the eventual sale to ISIS and being captured on camera a predictable consequence of this truck being sold with his name intact on it?

Besides, this yahoo should just change his logo to something like - "We'll blow the #### out of your #### problem!" At least make a little hay with it.
It's absolutely foreseeable that somebody would buy the truck and do something stupid in it. The exact person and circumstance is only relevant in calculating damages. The only thing that matters in determining their negligence was whether the dealership should have reasonably foreseen the possibility of someone doing something dumb in the truck with the contractor's decal and creating bad publicity for the contractor. And I believe that that possibility absolutely should have been foreseen.

At the very least, I think it's reasonable enough that a judge/jury should get to decide.
Exactly why this numbnuts should have removed the decal himself. I don't buy for a second he tried to do it himself at the dealership. That was probably made up by his POS lawyer.
Why do you think that? I can't imagine anyone selling a work vehicle and not having the decal removed. Seems like a logical explanation that the dealership told him they'd take care of it.
Who decides to remove a decal that has been on the truck for years last second at the dealership? I could maybe buy that the deal was done and he realized that he had left it on there as he was leaving and went in the shop and asked a worker to remove it. But no way did this guy start to peel the decal off at the dealership and get told not to. If he waited that long its not like the guy had a portable sander or any tools with him and was about ready to go to town. If he was peeling it off with his fingers he wouldn't damage any paint. It just doesn't pass the sniff test.

I don't even try to replace my state parks sticker until I get home because I know it will be impossible to peel off a sticker with my fingers that has been on my windshield for a year. I just put the new one on the dash next to it that first day at the park.

There is a fedex trailer that somebody cut the wheels off of and uses it to store random stuff right off the highway about 30 miles south of me. It has also been graffitied and is on a major route. Pretty sure the guy didnt steal it from Fedex, so obviously fedex sold it that way. Pretty sure fedex hasnt sued the guy.

When we sell our trucks we make sure that the logo is completely removed before we trade it in. DOT numbers, phone number, everything. Only an idiot would try to do this at the dealership. It isn't right that in our society lawyers have enabled and even actively recruited people to pass the blame off for their stupidity any chance they get.

 
parasaurolophus said:
Pipes said:
Fennis said:
GroveDiesel said:
Sounds like he has received a ton of harassment because of it though. I think he has a legit claim.
What's his legit claim? The dealership didn't sell the car to ISIS either.
His claim is that he attempted to remove the decal himself precisely to avoid bad PR if the truck was sold to someone that would do something in it that would make his company look bad, but a representative of the dealership told him that they would do it instead in order to not damage the paint. The dealership did not remove the decal and the previous owner's company did experience bad publicity and harassment due to the dealership's negligence.
That's a nice narrative that conveniently fits his lawsuit. Even if what he said is true (I doubt the dealership will agree to this version) was the eventual sale to ISIS and being captured on camera a predictable consequence of this truck being sold with his name intact on it?

Besides, this yahoo should just change his logo to something like - "We'll blow the #### out of your #### problem!" At least make a little hay with it.
It's absolutely foreseeable that somebody would buy the truck and do something stupid in it. The exact person and circumstance is only relevant in calculating damages. The only thing that matters in determining their negligence was whether the dealership should have reasonably foreseen the possibility of someone doing something dumb in the truck with the contractor's decal and creating bad publicity for the contractor. And I believe that that possibility absolutely should have been foreseen.

At the very least, I think it's reasonable enough that a judge/jury should get to decide.
Exactly why this numbnuts should have removed the decal himself. I don't buy for a second he tried to do it himself at the dealership. That was probably made up by his POS lawyer.
Why do you think that? I can't imagine anyone selling a work vehicle and not having the decal removed. Seems like a logical explanation that the dealership told him they'd take care of it.
Who decides to remove a decal that has been on the truck for years last second at the dealership? I could maybe buy that the deal was done and he realized that he had left it on there as he was leaving and went in the shop and asked a worker to remove it. But no way did this guy start to peel the decal off at the dealership and get told not to. If he waited that long its not like the guy had a portable sander or any tools with him and was about ready to go to town. If he was peeling it off with his fingers he wouldn't damage any paint. It just doesn't pass the sniff test.

I don't even try to replace my state parks sticker until I get home because I know it will be impossible to peel off a sticker with my fingers that has been on my windshield for a year. I just put the new one on the dash next to it that first day at the park.

There is a fedex trailer that somebody cut the wheels off of and uses it to store random stuff right off the highway about 30 miles south of me. It has also been graffitied and is on a major route. Pretty sure the guy didnt steal it from Fedex, so obviously fedex sold it that way. Pretty sure fedex hasnt sued the guy.

When we sell our trucks we make sure that the logo is completely removed before we trade it in. DOT numbers, phone number, everything. Only an idiot would try to do this at the dealership. It isn't right that in our society lawyers have enabled and even actively recruited people to pass the blame off for their stupidity any chance they get.
:goodposting:

All very well-reasoned, air-tight conclusions. I see no counterpoints to any of these absolute statements. This definitely settles it.

 
parasaurolophus said:
Who decides to remove a decal that has been on the truck for years last second at the dealership? I could maybe buy that the deal was done and he realized that he had left it on there as he was leaving and went in the shop and asked a worker to remove it. But no way did this guy start to peel the decal off at the dealership and get told not to. If he waited that long its not like the guy had a portable sander or any tools with him and was about ready to go to town. If he was peeling it off with his fingers he wouldn't damage any paint. It just doesn't pass the sniff test.

I don't even try to replace my state parks sticker until I get home because I know it will be impossible to peel off a sticker with my fingers that has been on my windshield for a year. I just put the new one on the dash next to it that first day at the park.

There is a fedex trailer that somebody cut the wheels off of and uses it to store random stuff right off the highway about 30 miles south of me. It has also been graffitied and is on a major route. Pretty sure the guy didnt steal it from Fedex, so obviously fedex sold it that way. Pretty sure fedex hasnt sued the guy.

When we sell our trucks we make sure that the logo is completely removed before we trade it in. DOT numbers, phone number, everything. Only an idiot would try to do this at the dealership. It isn't right that in our society lawyers have enabled and even actively recruited people to pass the blame off for their stupidity any chance they get.
:goodposting: All very well-reasoned, air-tight conclusions. I see no counterpoints to any of these absolute statements. This definitely settles it.
Happy to see you are one lawyer that gets it. It would have been a shame if you would have become an ambulance chaser type like so many of your peers. Your judgment has improved greatly since the days of letting other people from the internet create and manage an online dating profile on your behalf.

There is a reason I didn't say all lawyers. Refreshing to hear your thoughts.

PS I know you were being sarcastic.

 
parasaurolophus said:
Who decides to remove a decal that has been on the truck for years last second at the dealership? I could maybe buy that the deal was done and he realized that he had left it on there as he was leaving and went in the shop and asked a worker to remove it. But no way did this guy start to peel the decal off at the dealership and get told not to. If he waited that long its not like the guy had a portable sander or any tools with him and was about ready to go to town. If he was peeling it off with his fingers he wouldn't damage any paint. It just doesn't pass the sniff test.

I don't even try to replace my state parks sticker until I get home because I know it will be impossible to peel off a sticker with my fingers that has been on my windshield for a year. I just put the new one on the dash next to it that first day at the park.

There is a fedex trailer that somebody cut the wheels off of and uses it to store random stuff right off the highway about 30 miles south of me. It has also been graffitied and is on a major route. Pretty sure the guy didnt steal it from Fedex, so obviously fedex sold it that way. Pretty sure fedex hasnt sued the guy.

When we sell our trucks we make sure that the logo is completely removed before we trade it in. DOT numbers, phone number, everything. Only an idiot would try to do this at the dealership. It isn't right that in our society lawyers have enabled and even actively recruited people to pass the blame off for their stupidity any chance they get.
:goodposting: All very well-reasoned, air-tight conclusions. I see no counterpoints to any of these absolute statements. This definitely settles it.
Your judgment has improved greatly since the days of letting other people from the internet create and manage an online dating profile on your behalf.
Yeah that was actually pretty fun though.

 
I remeber when local police departments would sell their old police cruisers with the lights and stickers still on them. Luckily one or the local cars didn't end up in isis control.

 

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