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Thailand cave rescue (1 Viewer)

The Thai Prime Minister has postponed his planned visit today. No word on why or when it is rescheduled for, if ever

 
As a parent of 4 I can’t imagine the emotions seeing your boy come walking out.  I tear up just thinking about these kids - if it were my own son I would be a mess.

God bless these divers/rescue workers, amazing work they have done.

 
Need to find the article - a woman in 2007 was the lone survivor in a Thai cave expedition similar to what happened here - with water rushing in.e

She was talking about what the boys may be feeling

:shock:

 
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belljr said:
Need to find the article - a woman in 2007 was the loan survivor in a Thai cave expedition similar to what happened here - with water rushing in.

She was talking about what the boys may be feeling

:shock:
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Bad credit? Did she borrow from the mob?

 
The Thai authorities have not confirmed that anybody has been rescued today, yet. It's getting dark over there so hoping they will soon

 
AAABatteries said:
As a parent of 4 I can’t imagine the emotions seeing your boy come walking out.  I tear up just thinking about these kids - if it were my own son I would be a mess.

God bless these divers/rescue workers, amazing work they have done.
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The word hero gets thrown around a lot.  Like a lot lot.  But these rescue workers are truly deserving of being called heroes.  The pressure has to be absolutely relentless.  

 
Sabertooth said:
The word hero gets thrown around a lot.  Like a lot lot.  But these rescue workers are truly deserving of being called heroes.  The pressure has to be absolutely relentless.  
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It’s amazing to me that we (humans) not only have people that are skilled to do these types of things but that they are so willing to do it.  These type of events always remind me how much good there is in humanity - sure I read the PSF and occasionally the SP so I know there’s a lot of bad but I wish we could focus on the good we as humans do more often.

 
AAABatteries said:
As a parent of 4 I can’t imagine the emotions seeing your boy come walking out.  I tear up just thinking about these kids - if it were my own son I would be a mess.

God bless these divers/rescue workers, amazing work they have done.
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Actually, I am not sure these emotions are in play. From the piece I recently read, the authorities aren't releasing the names of the folks being rescued. The families are all in the dark as to who is out and who isn't. It sounds like all the parents are still at the cave entrance. As a parent of 3, I can't imagine knowing that one of my kids was stuck in the cave but now may or may not be. It seems like a super cruel lottery right now. 

Perhaps the families really do know and they are somehow keeping it from the press, but I can't see how the press wouldn't ferret out the info. I know I'd be too weak to hang out at the cave knowing one of my kids really wasn't there just to help the authorities.

This wasn't the first place I read it, just the first place I found it after looking for it again:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/09/health/parents-thai-boys-rescued-intl/index.html

 
Sabertooth said:
The word hero gets thrown around a lot.  Like a lot lot.  But these rescue workers are truly deserving of being called heroes.  The pressure has to be absolutely relentless.  
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On top of all that ... any of these volunteer divers could've found a good reason that they couldn't drop everything and come to Thailand at just this moment. And no one would have questioned it.

The ones on the scene performing the rescues ... they've not only volunteered, but have made sacrifices great and small to do so.

 
Take every bit of advantage you can get:

The threat of monsoon rains re-flooding the cave is not as acute as previously feared, according to Johannes Sander of the Munich base industrial weather forecasters Sander and partner.

In an email he said rainfall today was mostly in foothills away from the cave and tomorrow will see less rain.

He writes: “Monsoon rain patterns are very local. On Wednesday strong rainfall will happen about 30km or 50km north of the Tham Luang region, while the area around the cave will see little precipitation, and even less than today or tomorrow. The lack of signficant rain with support pumping of the flooded caverns.”
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Doug B said:
On top of all that ... any of these volunteer divers could've found a good reason that they couldn't drop everything and come to Thailand at just this moment. And no one would have questioned it.

The ones on the scene performing the rescues ... they've not only volunteered, but have made sacrifices great and small to do so.
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I am just an awe of those guys.

You have people from around the world with special expertise who saw the need, and answered the call, and never thought twice about it.  And, a special level of appreciation for the Thai authorities running this operation - clearly complex and emotional.  There were undoubtedly dozens of ideas tossed out there on how to approach this - but to take all that info, make a plan of action, and get everyone pulling in the same direction.  Great management, imo.

And the local support for the families.

And the medical crews.

And quite frankly a number of other local personnel who are helping to stage this is just incredible - and shows what humanity is capable of.

I hope this continues to go well.

 
Reminds me of the firefighters that come from all over the world to risk their lives to save people they don't even know.

It's the best kind of thing that humans do.

 
So I've got a lot Facebook friends and relatives who live in Bangkok.  The stuff they're posting is basically the same if not less info than what we have here.  Echoing what some have said re. the families not even knowing if their kid is one of the rescued or the still-to-be rescued, it's interesting to me how little some of the SE Asian countries seem to disclose on matters such as this.  Remember Malaysa 370?  The government kept so much secret for so long.  I wonder why they're so guarded in situations like this?  Fear of looking bad?  Wanting to "own their challenges?"  It's interesting.

Regardless, amazing progress so far.  Hopefully they go 12/12 (and the coach) and ALL The families get great news.

 
AAABatteries said:
It’s amazing to me that we (humans) not only have people that are skilled to do these types of things but that they are so willing to do it.  These type of events always remind me how much good there is in humanity - sure I read the PSF and occasionally the SP so I know there’s a lot of bad but I wish we could focus on the good we as humans do more often.
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I agree.  The confluence of skill, courage, and selflessness in humanity is awesome to behold sometimes.  Humans truly at their best.  

 
Per CNN- it’s a British led team of international divers- the very best at cave diving in the world. These are the same guys that went in yesterday. The job is so strenuous that they need a full day of rest each time. They will get the remaining 5 out tomorrow. 

 
timschochet said:
8 out now. So awesome. Love this story. 
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Put me on the opposite side of the fence. I flipped on CNN yesterday and they had ongoing coverage about this story.

I feel like there's a hundred more important things going on at home that are more important than focusing on this story.

It really shows how concerned the news media is for ratings that everything is put on the back burner over 10 or so kids halfway across the world.

I don't see how this is a good story or at all entertainment for us in America. I think it's overall in poor taste to be doing play-by-play commentary on a situation like this.

But hey, that's just one man's opinion.

 
Stuart Ullman said:
Put me on the opposite side of the fence. I flipped on CNN yesterday and they had ongoing coverage about this story.

I feel like there's a hundred more important things going on at home that are more important than focusing on this story.

It really shows how concerned the news media is for ratings that everything is put on the back burner over 10 or so kids halfway across the world.

I don't see how this is a good story or at all entertainment for us in America. I think it's overall in poor taste to be doing play-by-play commentary on a situation like this.

But hey, that's just one man's opinion.
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Wow. Yeah we certainly do disagree. 

So much of the news, 99% of it, is bad news. You want more bad news, just wait until this story is over, there will be plenty of it. There will always be lots for you to focus on. 

This is a rare inspiring feel good story (at least so far) and I can’t get enough of it. 

 
timschochet said:
Wow. Yeah we certainly do disagree. 

So much of the news, 99% of it, is bad news. You want more bad news, just wait until this story is over, there will be plenty of it. There will always be lots for you to focus on. 

This is a rare inspiring feel good story (at least so far) and I can’t get enough of it. 
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To each their own!

 
Stuart Ullman said:
I feel like there's a hundred more important things going on at home that are more important than focusing on this story.
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This could've been said of the moon landing as well. Or any other human interest story (Baby Jessica in the well, the release of American hostage in Iran, etc.).

And AFAIC ... this is going on at home. The team and their families are people just like me and mine and -- fundamentally, when all artifice and ephemera is stripped -- they have the same emotions, fears and struggles as we do.

 
AAABatteries said:
As a parent of 4 I can’t imagine the emotions seeing your boy come walking out.  I tear up just thinking about these kids - if it were my own son I would be a mess.

God bless these divers/rescue workers, amazing work they have done.
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God bless those 4 poor, poor children...

Jk, gb

 
We were going to go on a cave tour in northern Wisconsin in August.  Scheduled it in April.

I just can`t do it now and my wife said there is no way in hell she is setting foot inside a cave..I don`t think I will ever set foot inside a cave again after this.

 
Stuart Ullman said:
Put me on the opposite side of the fence. I flipped on CNN yesterday and they had ongoing coverage about this story.

I feel like there's a hundred more important things going on at home that are more important than focusing on this story.

It really shows how concerned the news media is for ratings that everything is put on the back burner over 10 or so kids halfway across the world.

I don't see how this is a good story or at all entertainment for us in America. I think it's overall in poor taste to be doing play-by-play commentary on a situation like this.

But hey, that's just one man's opinion.
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Wow. I find it rather refreshing to see countries come together to help save people they don't know, not to mention the odds stacked against them in how enormously dangerous it is. 

I don't know what channel you are watching, but the news channels  are reporting other news too.

 
Getzlaf15 said:
Please stop ruining the thread by responding.  
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Honestly, you're a poor taste for treating me like this. I came in here to voice my opinion, not argue with anyone.

Learn some respect. We all deserve respect. You're acting like I'm sub-human who doesn't have rights.

 
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Stuart Ullman said:
Honestly, you're a poor taste for treating me like this. I came in here to voice my opinion, not argue with anyone.

Learn some respect. We all deserve respect. You're acting like I'm sub-human who doesn't have rights, which makes you the person who should be ignored and vilified.
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The righteous indignation from the internet troll. Never gets old.

 
Imagine wanting to watch more wretched news about how the world is burning down instead of an awesome feel-good story. 

 
Besides the incredible courage, international cooperation, and selflessness, I'm even more fascinated by the problem-solving and logistical effort involved. It reminds me of the race to the moon in some respects because it seemed so impossible just a week ago.  Humanity can do some really remarkable things when we put our best minds on a problem. 

 
bagger said:
The righteous indignation from the internet troll. Never gets old.
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I'm not a troll though. You're treating me with no respect. I'm a human being.

You have the choice to treat me like one, you're not. You're treating me bad and rationalizing it to yourself.

I've never done anything wrong to you.

 
Capella said:
Imagine wanting to watch more wretched news about how the world is burning down instead of an awesome feel-good story. 
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Except that's not what I said, at all. You're bending my words for laughs and to put me down.

Seriously, everyone acts like I'm some bad person. But you all treat me worse than I've ever treated any of you.

I'm insulted and you just bent my words to look cool in front of your friends. I'm a human being.

 
SayWhat? said:
More rescue updates, less nonsense.  TIA!
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I agree. I made one post giving my opinion. Another post agreeing to disagree. Being respectful.

Then, everyone insulted me. If everyone just treated me with respect, the whole thing would have blown by.

Toxic.

 
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NotSmart said:
@Joe Bryant

@FBG Moderator

A little help please in getting this thread back to what we all want it to be.
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You've made more posts about me than my original two posts in this thread. You've derailed your own thread more than I have, when I was simply giving my opinion.

Unbelievable the amount of bullying and hate in this world. I don't even know you but you want to make me miserable.

 
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Da Guru said:
We were going to go on a cave tour in northern Wisconsin in August.  Scheduled it in April.

I just can`t do it now and my wife said there is no way in hell she is setting foot inside a cave..I don`t think I will ever set foot inside a cave again after this.
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This is kind of like cancelling your Hawaiian vacation because some surfer in South Africa got bitten by a shark.

 
Capella said:
Imagine wanting to watch more wretched news about how the world is burning down instead of an awesome feel-good story. 
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There were talking about the coverage last night and some shrink said many people watch and listen to hear bad news.  Then he likened it to the motorcycle jumps last night and said "Many people don`t watch these things to see the jumper succeed..but to see a spectacular crash live."

 
Mookie said:
It reminds me of the race to the moon in some respects because it seemed so impossible just a week ago.  Humanity can do some really remarkable things when we put our best minds on a problem. 
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Sometimes when following the Thai soccer team story, I think of the Apollo 13 rescue. Anyone that's seen the movie: remember that scene when Ed Harris dumped out a box of parts on a table and told the engineers that those things were ALL they had to work with to get the astronauts home? 

 
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