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The 2010 K Thread (1 Viewer)

Havent seen any links yet but I believe last year they had one active and the other out so it was clear.....

 
There's no point in giving up on Hartley so soon, since his salary is already guaranteed for the year and Carney has no long-term future with the team. Besides, there's no guarantee that Carney will maintain his accuracy throughout the season (it's worth noting that Carney's accuracy was 4th lowest of his career in 2009).

On the bright side, Carney has eclipsed Isaac Bruce as the last remaining NFL player who played for the Los Angeles Rams.

 
dagwood said:
Kiddnets said:
Havent seen any links yet but I believe last year they had one active and the other out so it was clear.....
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Hartley won't get back in this year unless Carney gets hurt.
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Wrong, Carney has no leg. Hartley will kick everything over 35 most likely and Carney will kick everything under until Carney can correct Hartley's issues with rushing his kicks and hooking them to the right.
videoguy505 said:
Carney will be in for scoring (PAT & FG), Hartley will kick off.
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Wrong, Thomas Morstead does Kickoffs and as I said Carney will not be handling all FG's
 
I doubt there will be 2 K's active. probably 75% that Carney kicks this week. but even if he does, he's not the answer long term. Hartley will get the job back, and he still may even kick this week.

the Saints really wanted Carney as a kicking coach, but he still has a desire to play, and once you get hired as a coach you can't play any more during that season. that's why Carney was reluctant to become a coach, and why the Saints signed him as a player. the Saints want him more as a mentor than a long term solution.

even with his struggles this season, Hartley is over 86% for his career, including 5 for 5 in the playoffs. dude has talent.

 
Maik Jeaunz said:
I doubt there will be 2 K's active. probably 75% that Carney kicks this week. but even if he does, he's not the answer long term. Hartley will get the job back, and he still may even kick this week. the Saints really wanted Carney as a kicking coach, but he still has a desire to play, and once you get hired as a coach you can't play any more during that season. that's why Carney was reluctant to become a coach, and why the Saints signed him as a player. the Saints want him more as a mentor than a long term solution.even with his struggles this season, Hartley is over 86% for his career, including 5 for 5 in the playoffs. dude has talent.
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:football: You hit several nails on the head with this post.
 
Josh Scobee. 59 yard game winner on final play of game. Jaguars 31-28 over Colts.

Matt Prater hits his fourth field goal of the day. Broncos up 26-20; 0:28 left in the game.

On small campuses around the country, September featured 30 days and 32 kickers: http://bit.ly/dzwMQL and http://bit.ly/cZkNSg

Falcons kicker Matt Bryant hits a 43 yard game winner with two seconds remaining. Atlanta 16-14 over San Francisco.

RT @TennesseeTitans: Rob Bironas' 55-yard field goal was the 3rd longest of his career.

Kickology blog: Big Kickers on Campus, 2010 week 5 http://bit.ly/cggCyI

 
Mike Herman said:
Sebastian Janikowski Connects With Teammates After Missed Field Goals http://bit.ly/doBVdf

Touchbacks A Priority For David Buehler, Too http://bit.ly/aVBD0M

With New Orleans kickers still dominating the kicking headlines, we look back at Saints kicker Tom Dempsey http://bit.ly/9ZipiM
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I have a framed, signed picture of/by Dempsey kicking his famous kick.Alex Karras is rushing in from the right side of the Saints' line, hands outstretched.

The fans seem oddly nonplussed, so do many of the players. Some people are watching the kick, some are watching Demsey.

Scarpatti, a DB, was holding.

Dempsey is still around town, sells insurance and is known as a great guy.

About a million Orleanians claim they saw the kick. Another 10 million claim they heard it on the radio.

Fact is, 1/2 of the stadium had left and the game could not be heard on radio because (true story) a swarm of bees had chosen that particular moment to overwhelm the wires in the stdium's transmitting towers and the end of the game was nothing but static.

Lots of people heard the roar of the remaining crowd from outside the stadium though.

Dempsey deserves credit as one of the most remarkabl;e athletes of all time. Played in teh NFL with half a foot???? Come on.

 
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Mike Herman said:
Maik Jeaunz said:
I doubt there will be 2 K's active. probably 75% that Carney kicks this week. but even if he does, he's not the answer long term. Hartley will get the job back, and he still may even kick this week. the Saints really wanted Carney as a kicking coach, but he still has a desire to play, and once you get hired as a coach you can't play any more during that season. that's why Carney was reluctant to become a coach, and why the Saints signed him as a player. the Saints want him more as a mentor than a long term solution.even with his struggles this season, Hartley is over 86% for his career, including 5 for 5 in the playoffs. dude has talent.
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:yes: You hit several nails on the head with this post.
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Okay...so when do we think Hartley might get the job back?
 
Veteran PKs Shayne Graham, Shaun Suisham visit New England http://bit.ly/cbwuAq

RT @Adam_Schefter: Redskins reached agreement with punter Hunter Smith, who will sign tomorrow.

RT @Official_Saints: Payton on who will start at K this week "no update. (Carney & Hartley) are both kicking well so that is encouraging."

Atlanta Falcons kicker Matt Bryant named NFC special teams player of the week. http://bit.ly/cYj5k9

Jaguars kicker Josh Scobee named AFC special teams player of the week.

 
Do you think Josh Scobee is a good pickup this week, you kicker fans? I picked him up this week because Buffalo's defense is putrid and the Jags should actually put some points on the board this week.

 
Kickology blog: 717 Field Goals http://bit.ly/ch0ZVo

Phil Dawson’s field goal puts him at top of Browns record books http://bit.ly/9XGXwW

Adam Vinatieri's four field goals help Colts hold off Chiefs http://bit.ly/9dwWPn

Connor Barth's field goal lifts Tampa Bay Buccaneers past Cincinnati Bengals 24-21 http://bit.ly/9cFc5u

Missed field goal again haunts New Orleans Saints http://bit.ly/bB4d8E

Redskins Notes: Graham Gano Redeems Himself http://bit.ly/ahZ0eZ

Redskins 16, Packers 13: Mason Crosby Left Kicking Himself http://bit.ly/d3C1Iv



Sage Rosenfels replaces Matt Dodge as Giants' place kick holder http://bit.ly/adIfoO

 
Mike Herman said:
Missed field goal again haunts New Orleans Saints http://bit.ly/bB4d8E
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So what are the odds Hartley gets his job back in the next 1-3 weeks? It seems strange that NO is going to continue to have two kickers on the 53-man roster, that Carney is clearly not the long-term answer at the position, plus he also missed a key 29-yarder that was a big reason of why Hartley got benched in the first place.
 
"[Garrett Hartley] kicked really well the last two weeks [in practice] and worked very hard. We had the opportunity to evaluate things and fix some technical issues."

- John Carney

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NEW ORLEANS

New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton said it would have been nice for kickers John Carney and Garrett Hartley to compete again in practice this week, but the team couldn’t afford to because injury issues at other positions forced them to release Carney on Tuesday. It wasn’t practical to keep both kickers on the active roster, Payton said Wednesday, because they needed more depth at the injury-riddled halfback and safety positions—which led them to sign running back Julius Jones and safety Matt Giordano. “In an ideal world, it would have been nice to keep them both this week,” Payton said. “In the end, it really became a challenge to carry the second kicker. “Garrett has done a good job of responding,” Payton said of Hartley, who missed a 29-yard game-winning field goal against Atlanta on Sept. 26 and was inactive the last two weeks. “I thought he kicked exceptionally well today and had a good week last week. It just became too much of a challenge to carry the extra kicker.”

When asked if the release of the 46-year-old Carney would have been made even if he hadn’t missed a 29-yard field goal in a 30-20 loss to the Arizona Cardinals on Sunday, Payton said he didn’t know. But he reiterated the need to add another running back and safety was a factor in the team’s decision. “That’s a good question,” Payton said. “Just paying attention to how Garrett is kicking and how he’s responded, without getting into a hypothetical, with the two needs here it just became challenging with that extra specialist.”
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picked him up for the matchup. looks like might wanna look elsewhere.

Tynes deteriorates since Friday Lawrence Tynes, K NYGNews: Although the New York Giants were confident on Thursday that kicker Lawrence Tynes' injured left ankle would not cause him to miss the Week 6 game against Detroit, Tynes could do almost nothing during Friday's walkthrough. Tynes is very questionable for the game on Sunday and New York signed place kicker Shayne Graham in case Tynes is forced to miss the game.Analysis: Tynes could have been a nice low-end bye-week replacement Fantasy option in deeper leagues for Week 6 with this tasty matchup, but now he might not even play in the game. If you were planning on starting the native of Scotland, you better think about adding an insurance kicker now in case Tynes is inactive on Sunday morning. Graham would be suitable in a pinch, since he'd have the same matchup.
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Kickology blog: NFL Week Six: Overtimers, Uprights & Frustrating Winds http://bit.ly/by6fW9

Packers coach Mike McCarthy publicly put punter Tim Masthay on notice Monday http://bit.ly/bRBU08

Lou Groza Award Stars of the Week: Aaron Jones (Baylor), Dan Conroy (Michigan State) & Nate Freese (Boston College) http://bit.ly/ckgIDz about 4 hours ago via TweetDeck

Giants release kicker Shayne Graham to make room for OT Meredith:

RT @SDUTChargers: News not as good re: Floyd and Nate Kaeding. They're not expected to play -- ka

Kickology blog: CFL Week 16: Unexpected Feet http://bit.ly/9gl5AR

 
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