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I would love to take a flyer on Sid Rice.
me too. Forgot about Sid.I would love to take a flyer on Sid Rice.
That's not good. Holmes is a shell of the guy he was as a Steeler. They'd have been better off keeping LaFell or Ginn.Holmes is the top guy I can find left maybe at this point.
Enlighten me Carolina fans I'm perplexed James Jones down. I would be absolutely pissed if panthers were my team?how does the carolina fans perceive their lack of moves and maybe there draft strategies? I can't remember the last time I have seen a team let go there top 4 wrs and lose value at other positions and not really make one fa signing to booster their depleted position. Your coach is definitely considered one of the better around the league. I'm just dumbfounded. Maybe their faith in this wr class is high but how many can they fill these holes with. It takes about two to three years to become a productive nfl receiver so wtf is going on in Carolina!! someone help me understand?
Might as well at this point.Jayrok said:me too. Forgot about Sid.pantherclub said:I would love to take a flyer on Sid Rice.
Kenny Britt > Miles Austinbicycle_seat_sniffer said:sign 2 of
Miles Austin
Santonio Holmes
James Jones
Draft a rookie in round 1.
The thread pretty well spells out how the fans feelEnlighten me Carolina fans I'm perplexed James Jones down. I would be absolutely pissed if panthers were my team?how does the carolina fans perceive their lack of moves and maybe there draft strategies? I can't remember the last time I have seen a team let go there top 4 wrs and lose value at other positions and not really make one fa signing to booster their depleted position. Your coach is definitely considered one of the better around the league. I'm just dumbfounded. Maybe their faith in this wr class is high but how many can they fill these holes with. It takes about two to three years to become a productive nfl receiver so wtf is going on in Carolina!! someone help me understand?
For whatever reason, I think he's sleeping fine. He did this. I refuse to believe he couldn't predict this scenario happening and now he's crapping his pants. I have no idea what the plan will be though....none. An all WR draft??Yeah we will wait until the dust settles and grab bargains. You can't wait for the dust to settle to find a number 1 receiver. Even a half ### one. If I'm DG I'm not sleeping well about now.
That'd be good.When Tavarres King becomes the next out-of-nowhere stud WR a la Victor Cruz (who was added by NYG when Gettleman was head of scouting, and was an undrafted nobody), Carolina fans will stop panicking so much.
If he is going to quadruple dip I guess that counts as a plan. I have to assume they are pretty damn happy with King and McNutt.For whatever reason, I think he's sleeping fine. He did this. I refuse to believe he couldn't predict this scenario happening and now he's crapping his pants. I have no idea what the plan will be though....none. An all WR draft??Yeah we will wait until the dust settles and grab bargains. You can't wait for the dust to settle to find a number 1 receiver. Even a half ### one. If I'm DG I'm not sleeping well about now.![]()
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I don't know what Jones was asking but I wouldn't want to over pay for people like Jones, Holmes or Sanders. It's still just March and since there are no Larry Fitzgeralds out there to try and sign, I don't have a problem with DG waiting at this point.Enlighten me Carolina fans I'm perplexed James Jones down. I would be absolutely pissed if panthers were my team?
Speaking of Kennison, in 2000 the Saints let him go after he had been their leading receiver. They went into the 2000 season with Joe Horn, whom they had acquired via trade from KC, where he had been a no. 3 WR with 35 catches after 3 years of doing nothing, Willie Jackson, a backup from Jax whom they got via FA, FA Jake Reed, holdover Keith Poole, and FA TE Andrew Glover (from MIN, like Reed). Reed and Glover were at the near end and actual end of their careers, respectively. Ricky Williams and Chad Morton were there at RB, Blake and Brooks were QB. The main takeaway is that what looked like a backup scrub from afar, Joe Horn, broke out with a 94/1340/8 season. Mike McCarthy was the OC and they actually finished with something like the 10th ranked scoring offense, top 15 yardage. Carolina was 18th in points last year, 26th in yardage, incredibly low for a playoff team and (ahem) division winner. The Saints situation was different because they had been atrocious offensively, had been absolute losers the year before, and 2000 was wholesale turnover of the roster and coaching staff. Carolina is not that, so it's very weird. And Shula is the polar opposite of McCarthy. Still someone will be there to pick up those yards and TDs left over by SS, Ginn and LaFell especially. In all, 156/1983/15 from the 4 WRs somehow is going to be distributed among maybe a couple free agents of determinable quality to be seen, and/or McNutt/King, and maybe likely a 1st round pick and maybe a mid-round pick. Somewhere in that mix someone will have a great season, maybe it will be Olsen actually but even then at least one of the WRs will likely be relevant.The 2007 Chiefs went into the draft with Samie Parker and 34 yo Kennison.This is so odd, never seen a team this deep into free agency with such a huge hole.
Depends on the health of Dobson. I think the pats keep lafell because dobson's foot is a real concernI don't know what Jones was asking but I wouldn't want to over pay for people like Jones, Holmes or Sanders. It's still just March and since there are no Larry Fitzgeralds out there to try and sign, I don't have a problem with DG waiting at this point.Enlighten me Carolina fans I'm perplexed James Jones down. I would be absolutely pissed if panthers were my team?
I won't be surprised if Lafell doesn't make the final Patriots roster and ends up signing back with the Panthers at a lower rate. He still has to compete with Thompkins and Dobson for a spot. Maybe King and McNutt have shown DG something that we don't know. Couple those things with a plan to draft strongly at WR and I'm not ready to panic yet.
Don't they have Boyce too?Depends on the health of Dobson. I think the pats keep lafell because dobson's foot is a real concernI don't know what Jones was asking but I wouldn't want to over pay for people like Jones, Holmes or Sanders. It's still just March and since there are no Larry Fitzgeralds out there to try and sign, I don't have a problem with DG waiting at this point.Enlighten me Carolina fans I'm perplexed James Jones down. I would be absolutely pissed if panthers were my team?
I won't be surprised if Lafell doesn't make the final Patriots roster and ends up signing back with the Panthers at a lower rate. He still has to compete with Thompkins and Dobson for a spot. Maybe King and McNutt have shown DG something that we don't know. Couple those things with a plan to draft strongly at WR and I'm not ready to panic yet.
They do but they play different roles in the offense.Don't they have Boyce too?Depends on the health of Dobson. I think the pats keep lafell because dobson's foot is a real concernI don't know what Jones was asking but I wouldn't want to over pay for people like Jones, Holmes or Sanders. It's still just March and since there are no Larry Fitzgeralds out there to try and sign, I don't have a problem with DG waiting at this point.Enlighten me Carolina fans I'm perplexed James Jones down. I would be absolutely pissed if panthers were my team?
I won't be surprised if Lafell doesn't make the final Patriots roster and ends up signing back with the Panthers at a lower rate. He still has to compete with Thompkins and Dobson for a spot. Maybe King and McNutt have shown DG something that we don't know. Couple those things with a plan to draft strongly at WR and I'm not ready to panic yet.
Actually I think Doss is the kind of guy the Panthers should be looking at now, someone who's young, been in the background as a WR3-4, with return skills, and who is looking for a place to emerge. It's a good signing by the Jags.Doss off the market to the Jags. 24 yo, really good in college, had some descent Ravens games, sticky hands.
I'm with you, that's why I posted his news in here. Sounds like Lance Moore could be close with the Steelers too.Actually I think Doss is the kind of guy the Panthers should be looking at now, someone who's young, been in the background as a WR3-4, with return skills, and who is looking for a place to emerge. It's a good signing by the Jags.Doss off the market to the Jags. 24 yo, really good in college, had some descent Ravens games, sticky hands.
I think the Panthers should be looking at someone like that, plus a grizzled old vet, 1-2 high and mid draft picks, and see what they get out of King and McNutt. So far none of that has happened though.
Anyway, are the Panthers' chances dwindling on landing this kid if his stock is rising as it appears to be? Who's realistically available at 28?He should still be there when we pick. He may even fall into the second.Been high on Benjamin for a while now. It appears the NFL is catching up. Do they not watch CFB??Anyway, are the Panthers' chances dwindling on landing this kid if his stock is rising as it appears to be? Who's realistically available at 28?
Obviously opinions vary and things can change quite a bit by draft date, but CBS / NFL Draft Scout posts a pretty decent listing every year which includes projected draft round. Here's their current ranking, and you can see the guys they think might be the last of the round 1 or 1-2 types.Been high on Benjamin for a while now. It appears the NFL is catching up. Do they not watch CFB??Anyway, are the Panthers' chances dwindling on landing this kid if his stock is rising as it appears to be? Who's realistically available at 28?
I hope he drops to the 2nd, I don't like him at all for our #1 sole hope at 1.28. He has some qualities, but he also has potential bust/won't do much out of the gate all over him. He doesn't seem polished to me, i.e. a guy who can step in and elevate the rest of the WRs week 1. If we could get one of the smaller/quicker guys and get him in the 2nd or that kid from Vandy (can't recall where he is rated), that might not be bad. Lots of potential at WR/OL in the draft, I hope they maximize it, we are going to need it. Our offense could be a huge hole.He should still be there when we pick. He may even fall into the second.Been high on Benjamin for a while now. It appears the NFL is catching up. Do they not watch CFB??Anyway, are the Panthers' chances dwindling on landing this kid if his stock is rising as it appears to be? Who's realistically available at 28?
Ya, if anyone thinks Britt or Holmes or Austin or Sid Rice or Cotchery or anyone else has extra leverage on Carolina because of the dearth of veterans on the current roster, think again. Gettleman CHOSE to let Smith go, and let LaFell and Ginn sign elsewhere for more money than he was willing to pay, and let Nicks do the same. No reason to think he is going to change his strategy now that the barrel scrapings are the ones available.This is looking awful.
I do like the article above acting like Britt has leverage on the Panthers. Britt has literally no leverage on anyone. He isn't signing a big deal with guaranteed money anywhere. I know he tore it up for a period between 2010 and 2011, but that was 3 years ago. An 11-96 2013 when he was healthy for 12 games is pathetic. He has a 1 year deal for minimal $$$/easy cut written all over him.
That said, I would take anything at this point.
There won't be anyone where we pick that isn't a potential bust. Not a lineman, not a WR, not a DB. If they are there at 28 in any round there are likely question marks. Durability, commitment, skill, etc. I would love Benjamin in the second but he won't last until our pick in that round. And I don't really want the alleged Smith clone everyone has us taking either in the first either. But we are going to pick someone and they will likely have something to prove.I hope he drops to the 2nd, I don't like him at all for our #1 sole hope at 1.28. He has some qualities, but he also has potential bust/won't do much out of the gate all over him. He doesn't seem polished to me, i.e. a guy who can step in and elevate the rest of the WRs week 1. If we could get one of the smaller/quicker guys and get him in the 2nd or that kid from Vandy (can't recall where he is rated), that might not be bad. Lots of potential at WR/OL in the draft, I hope they maximize it, we are going to need it. Our offense could be a huge hole.He should still be there when we pick. He may even fall into the second.Been high on Benjamin for a while now. It appears the NFL is catching up. Do they not watch CFB??Anyway, are the Panthers' chances dwindling on landing this kid if his stock is rising as it appears to be? Who's realistically available at 28?
I agree that Benjamin won't last, but I think that Beckham/Cooks got much better reviews at the combine, so they seem to have less question marks.There won't be anyone where we pick that isn't a potential bust. Not a lineman, not a WR, not a DB. If they are there at 28 in any round there are likely question marks. Durability, commitment, skill, etc. I would love Benjamin in the second but he won't last until our pick in that round. And I don't really want the alleged Smith clone everyone has us taking either in the first either. But we are going to pick someone and they will likely have something to prove.I hope he drops to the 2nd, I don't like him at all for our #1 sole hope at 1.28. He has some qualities, but he also has potential bust/won't do much out of the gate all over him. He doesn't seem polished to me, i.e. a guy who can step in and elevate the rest of the WRs week 1. If we could get one of the smaller/quicker guys and get him in the 2nd or that kid from Vandy (can't recall where he is rated), that might not be bad. Lots of potential at WR/OL in the draft, I hope they maximize it, we are going to need it. Our offense could be a huge hole.He should still be there when we pick. He may even fall into the second.Been high on Benjamin for a while now. It appears the NFL is catching up. Do they not watch CFB??Anyway, are the Panthers' chances dwindling on landing this kid if his stock is rising as it appears to be? Who's realistically available at 28?
https://twitter.com/josephperson/status/446017756182609920In non-Cam news, WR Jerricho Cotchery wrapped up visit w/ Panthers. Left w/out a contract, per source. Deciding between CAR and Steelers.
Hey coach! Go long!This one stung. Found it in responses to the PFT article on the Newton ankle surgery:
linvillegorge says:Mar 18, 2014 5:46 PM
The best WR employed by the Panthers at the moment is their 46 year old WR coach Ricky Proehl.
Burleson is a great guy for a year or two.
We lead the league in dead money. I think it's over 17 million this year. It's killing this team.The amazing thing is the Browns also have $15M in dead money on top of the $32M in cap space - that's about 1/3 of the cap not used on players currently.
I'm a King fan and I think it's a possibility that he'll break out. I like McNutt as well.When Tavarres King becomes the next out-of-nowhere stud WR a la Victor Cruz (who was added by NYG when Gettleman was head of scouting, and was an undrafted nobody), Carolina fans will stop panicking so much.