****The 2019 Carolina Panthers Thread**** We Rhule At Losing (1 Viewer)

[The Commish]

I don't think this is a big deal to Cam. They've tried to make clear how important he is to them. There's little incentive here to do a deal now (for either side). The panthers are getting him on the cheap while other QBs to be signed over the next couple years are driving up the price tag for Cam. He's gonna get paid by someone. I don't think it's even a remote concern for him.

More interesting comments to me were DG's around Bell as a left tackle. THAT is a much bigger concern IMO.

 

[Faust]

Ron Rivera applying Moneyball approach to Panthers?

 

[NCCommish]

Ron Rivera applying Moneyball approach to Panthers?

What he doesn't seem to get is our receivers catching ten ball a game was a problem not a good thing.

 

[pantherclub]

Ron Rivera applying Moneyball approach to Panthers?

What he doesn't seem to get is our receivers catching ten ball a game was a problem not a good thing.

I think he gets everything just fine. After a 12-5 season that had some awesome highlights I am willing to give him a wide pass on his strategy for 2014 and beyond.

 

[FUBAR]

Ron Rivera applying Moneyball approach to Panthers?

What he doesn't seem to get is our receivers catching ten ball a game was a problem not a good thing.

I think he gets everything just fine. After a 12-5 season that had some awesome highlights I am willing to give him a wide pass on his strategy for 2014 and beyond.

give him the benefit of the doubt until he proves otherwise.

 

[Bruce Hammond]

Ron Rivera applying Moneyball approach to Panthers?

What he doesn't seem to get is our receivers catching ten ball a game was a problem not a good thing.

I think he gets everything just fine. After a 12-5 season that had some awesome highlights I am willing to give him a wide pass on his strategy for 2014 and beyond.

give him the benefit of the doubt until he proves otherwise.

I'll say it again... Tav King will be a big surprise. Just cuz a guy hasn't yet put up the stats doesn't mean he can't when given the chance. Antonio Brown was a 6th rounder, so was Garcon. Colston, Steve Johnson, Edelman were 7th rounders. Marvin Jones and Riley Cooper and Denarius Moore were 5th rounders. Welker was undrafted.

Why the heck NOT 5th rounder Tav King??!!

 

[NCCommish]

Ron Rivera applying Moneyball approach to Panthers?

What he doesn't seem to get is our receivers catching ten ball a game was a problem not a good thing.

I think he gets everything just fine. After a 12-5 season that had some awesome highlights I am willing to give him a wide pass on his strategy for 2014 and beyond.

If he thinks our anemic offense is all he has to replicate he doesn't get it. Ask the 49ers.

 

[BassNBrew]

Looking for a few more owners for the upcoming FBG pre-Draft Survivor league. Details and signup thread in mock draft forum. It's free and it's draft and go so you don't have to manage the team. Draft starts early April.

 

[JFS171]

I would imagine a lot of the cap quotes from the presser are more "grandstanding" than anything on Gettleman's part. What's he supposed to say? We've got tons of money to spend!

My point isn't that the cap isn't going to be an ongoing issue - it's still something to navigate. But the situation was far more dire last year, IMO, and GMan put together a strong roster. I have faith he'll do the same again this year.

My guess is they exercise Cam's 5th year option to make sure he's under contract for another season, and put off his long-term deal until next year. I know GMan said he's the franchise guy, and I don't doubt that he is. But I do think there's enough hint of a question as to whether he's a legit franchise cornerstone that they'd like to see him play with more talent on offense before 100% paying him like he's a franchise cornerstone. My point - at this point a lot of saying Cam is a franchise QB is based on him ironing out the inconsistencies and the skills he displays continuing to be refined and enhanced by a better supporting cast. But what if the inconsistencies don't improve? What if he's more Tony Romo-level guy than Brady/Manning/Rodgers level guy?

After that, I'd think Gross and Hardy are the top priorities, but GMan isn't going to mortgage the future to keep Hardy now. He's certainly an important player -- no doubt. And the Giants model was always based on dominating with the front 4 and patching the secondary together. If that's the model for this team, Hardy becomes even more important. But GMan also has to be realistic, and I think yesterday accomplished the goal of putting that thought in the fans' collective mindset and in Hardy's group's mindset - they'll let him walk if they have to.

Regardless - GMan has earned my trust... should be an interesting offseason indeed.

If they exercise the option they pay Cam like a franchise QB anyway. It's pretty equivalent to the tag as far as how his price next year is figured.

That's not the point. The point is that they push Cam's deal off another year with an action taken in this offseason (exercising the option) without having to use the franchise tag next year. What it does is allow them to still have his rookie contract counting against the 2014 cap instead of the first year of his long-term deal. In 2015, they'd have the first year of his long-term contract (as I'd expect they would resign him at that point) as opposed to having to have the space for the franchise tag. Point being - it buys them time to navigate the cap situation without having Cam entering the final year of his deal and heading for FA.

What it seems most likely is they franchise Hardy. He has already said there would be no hard feelings in fact it seems he almost expects it. And they get Cam his deal this year. Your QB shouldn't be a lame duck because it looks like a vote of no confidence. Now that's fine if you are worried but I don't think anyone in the Panthers org is worried that Cam isn't their guy.

How is picking up the option on his rookie deal a vote of no confidence? It's extending his contract by a year, through the 2015 season, instead of letting him play out the last year of his deal this year, then franchise tagging him.

The franchise tag route could be seen as lacking confidence in Cam, sure. I could buy that. But, picking up his option wouldn't seem to be IMO.

Plus, let's consider the financial impacts. The 5th year option is the average of the top 10 QB contracts. Franchise tag would be the average of the top 5 QB contracts. While it may not be a huge difference, it's financially smarter to exercise the option than employ the franchise tag.

Gettleman: Panthers will use fifth-year option on NewtonORLANDO

While reiterating that Cam Newton remains the Panthers' franchise quarterback, general manager Dave Gettleman said the team will use the fifth-year club option to keep Newton under contract through at least 2015.

Newton, the first No. 1 pick to sign under the new collective bargaining agreement, agreed to a four-year contract worth a guaranteed $22 million in 2011.

Under the new CBA, teams control the fifth year for first-round picks at a controlled price. For the top 10 picks, the fifth-year salary is the average of the top 10 players at their position. Teams have until May 3 to exercise the fifth-year option.

"We're in conversations on that now," Gettleman said Tuesday at the NFL owners meetings. Asked if he expected to use the option on Newton, Gettleman said: "The short answer is yes. That's a fair statement."

Gettleman indicated the moves the Panthers are making now -- or those they're not making -- are with future salary caps in mind.

Hope Newton is in on it or the next fair statement will be we are looking for new QB.

If we can't sign him we can always franchise him right? No way he leaves town I'd hope. Best running QB in the league but average as a passer. We could transition him as well if we weren't sold on giving him a gazillion dollars and going into cap hell on another sunk cost like our RB's currently. I actually think this may be wise.

It's not a lack of commitment to Cam - it's getting the cap right so they can be consistently competitive for years to come. There's no money this year to write a long term contract for Cam, so exercising the option and putting the decision off another year was the fiscally responsible move. I know some believed we could get Cam at a discount this year before he put up another huge season, but 1) He doesn't strike me as the type to sign for less than he believes he's worth; and 2) it's just a risk they've got to take with the cap situation.

Next year they likely approach him with a long term deal, and he never plays under that 5th year option. If they can't hammer it out, they could always franchise him in 2016.

I don't think he's going anywhere.

 

[Englishteacher]

From NFL.com:

Will Oakland Raiders trade or release Terrelle Pryor?113

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• By Dan Hanzus
• Around the League Writer
• Published: March 27, 2014 at 10:39 a.m.
• Updated: March 27, 2014 at 12:09 p.m.

We already know that Terrelle Pryor isn't long for the Oakland Raiders. The question is how he'll exit the picture.

Fox Sports' Alex Marvez reported Wednesday that the Raiders have received "trade feelers" for Pryor. If the Raiders cannot move the quarterback in a trade, they likely will release him next month.


Vic Tafur of the San Francisco Chronicle reported earlier this week that the Raiders have been quietly shopping Pryor since January. The Raiders aren't exactly working from a place of leverage; coach Dennis Allen admitted this week that Pryor is third on the Raiders' depth chart behind Matt Schaub and Matt McGloin.

"Terrelle wants to start so bad," general manager Reggie McKenzie said Monday at the NFL Annual Meeting. "So we're going to ... I'll visit with him and we'll talk to him and we'll move on from there."

Pryor started nine games for the Raiders last season, finishing with a 57.4 percent completion percentage, seven touchdown passes, 11 interceptions and a 69.1 passer rating. He added 83 carries for 576 yards and two touchdowns on the ground.

It's hard to imagine the Raiders fetching more than a late-round draft pick in a trade. The much more likely scenario has Pryor hitting waivers in the near future.

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If we can get him cheap, I wouln't mind. I'm thinking sixth round or later.

 

[NCCommish]

From NFL.com:

Will Oakland Raiders trade or release Terrelle Pryor?113

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• By Dan Hanzus
• Around the League Writer
• Published: March 27, 2014 at 10:39 a.m.
• Updated: March 27, 2014 at 12:09 p.m.

We already know that Terrelle Pryor isn't long for the Oakland Raiders. The question is how he'll exit the picture.

Fox Sports' Alex Marvez reported Wednesday that the Raiders have received "trade feelers" for Pryor. If the Raiders cannot move the quarterback in a trade, they likely will release him next month.


Vic Tafur of the San Francisco Chronicle reported earlier this week that the Raiders have been quietly shopping Pryor since January. The Raiders aren't exactly working from a place of leverage; coach Dennis Allen admitted this week that Pryor is third on the Raiders' depth chart behind Matt Schaub and Matt McGloin.

"Terrelle wants to start so bad," general manager Reggie McKenzie said Monday at the NFL Annual Meeting. "So we're going to ... I'll visit with him and we'll talk to him and we'll move on from there."

Pryor started nine games for the Raiders last season, finishing with a 57.4 percent completion percentage, seven touchdown passes, 11 interceptions and a 69.1 passer rating. He added 83 carries for 576 yards and two touchdowns on the ground.

It's hard to imagine the Raiders fetching more than a late-round draft pick in a trade. The much more likely scenario has Pryor hitting waivers in the near future.

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If we can get him cheap, I wouln't mind. I'm thinking sixth round or later.

Let him hit the wire. To be honest I'd rather draft someone than take him on. He wants to start. He ain't starting here.

 

[NCCommish]

As I said they don't seem to get what the problem is with this offense:

“I don’t think you need a true No. 1 that does everything. I don’t think you need to have a guy like Detroit’s Calvin Johnson,” Rivera said Wednesday on the final day of the league meetings. “I think you need to have a guy that’s going to account – if there’s 10 catches in a game by your wide receivers, he gets six of them.”
Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/03/26/4796087/ron-rivera-panthers-might-not.html#storylink=cpy

Here's a clue your wide receivers need to catch more than 10 balls. All that ball control got us what? Oh yeah bounced first playoff game to a team that went off the field talking about our lack of offensive fire power.

 

[Bruce Hammond]

As I said they don't seem to get what the problem is with this offense:

“I don’t think you need a true No. 1 that does everything. I don’t think you need to have a guy like Detroit’s Calvin Johnson,” Rivera said Wednesday on the final day of the league meetings. “I think you need to have a guy that’s going to account – if there’s 10 catches in a game by your wide receivers, he gets six of them.”Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/03/26/4796087/ron-rivera-panthers-might-not.html#storylink=cpy

Here's a clue your wide receivers need to catch more than 10 balls. All that ball control got us what? Oh yeah bounced first playoff game to a team that went off the field talking about our lack of offensive fire power.

Pretty strange comment by Rivera, not needing a #1 WR but then saying one of them will get 6 of the 10 WR catches per game.

Hey Rivera, 6 catches x 16 games = 96 freakin' catches.

So who is the guy he has in mind for the 96 catches. I'll take him on my fantasy team!

 

[jurb26]

As I said they don't seem to get what the problem is with this offense:

“I don’t think you need a true No. 1 that does everything. I don’t think you need to have a guy like Detroit’s Calvin Johnson,” Rivera said Wednesday on the final day of the league meetings. “I think you need to have a guy that’s going to account – if there’s 10 catches in a game by your wide receivers, he gets six of them.”

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/03/26/4796087/ron-rivera-panthers-might-not.html#storylink=cpy

Here's a clue your wide receivers need to catch more than 10 balls. All that ball control got us what? Oh yeah bounced first playoff game to a team that went off the field talking about our lack of offensive fire power.

Pretty strange comment by Rivera, not needing a #1 WR but then saying one of them will get 6 of the 10 WR catches per game.

Hey Rivera, 6 catches x 16 games = 96 freakin' catches.

So who is the guy he has in mind for the 96 catches. I'll take him on my fantasy team!

Note the if in his comment. If WRs catch 10 balls in a game. I'd like to know how many games that is going to be. I'm betting maybe 1 at this point.

 

[Bruce Hammond]

As I said they don't seem to get what the problem is with this offense:

“I don’t think you need a true No. 1 that does everything. I don’t think you need to have a guy like Detroit’s Calvin Johnson,” Rivera said Wednesday on the final day of the league meetings. “I think you need to have a guy that’s going to account – if there’s 10 catches in a game by your wide receivers, he gets six of them.”

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/03/26/4796087/ron-rivera-panthers-might-not.html#storylink=cpy

Here's a clue your wide receivers need to catch more than 10 balls. All that ball control got us what? Oh yeah bounced first playoff game to a team that went off the field talking about our lack of offensive fire power.

Pretty strange comment by Rivera, not needing a #1 WR but then saying one of them will get 6 of the 10 WR catches per game.

Hey Rivera, 6 catches x 16 games = 96 freakin' catches.

So who is the guy he has in mind for the 96 catches. I'll take him on my fantasy team!

Note the if in his comment. If WRs catch 10 balls in a game. I'd like to know how many games that is going to be. I'm betting maybe 1 at this point.

He's talking an average of 10 WR catches. In another part of the article he says "Our receivers averaged – as a group, collectively – 10 catches a game,” Rivera said. “If we are going to continue to run the ball successfully, on the average we have to make 10 catches a game.”

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/03/26/4796087/ron-rivera-panthers-might-not.html#storylink=cpy

 

[The Commish]

From NFL.com:

Will Oakland Raiders trade or release Terrelle Pryor?113

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• By Dan Hanzus
• Around the League Writer
• Published: March 27, 2014 at 10:39 a.m.
• Updated: March 27, 2014 at 12:09 p.m.

We already know that Terrelle Pryor isn't long for the Oakland Raiders. The question is how he'll exit the picture.

Fox Sports' Alex Marvez reported Wednesday that the Raiders have received "trade feelers" for Pryor. If the Raiders cannot move the quarterback in a trade, they likely will release him next month.


Vic Tafur of the San Francisco Chronicle reported earlier this week that the Raiders have been quietly shopping Pryor since January. The Raiders aren't exactly working from a place of leverage; coach Dennis Allen admitted this week that Pryor is third on the Raiders' depth chart behind Matt Schaub and Matt McGloin.

"Terrelle wants to start so bad," general manager Reggie McKenzie said Monday at the NFL Annual Meeting. "So we're going to ... I'll visit with him and we'll talk to him and we'll move on from there."

Pryor started nine games for the Raiders last season, finishing with a 57.4 percent completion percentage, seven touchdown passes, 11 interceptions and a 69.1 passer rating. He added 83 carries for 576 yards and two touchdowns on the ground.

It's hard to imagine the Raiders fetching more than a late-round draft pick in a trade. The much more likely scenario has Pryor hitting waivers in the near future.

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If we can get him cheap, I wouln't mind. I'm thinking sixth round or later.

Oh God no!!!

 

[NCCommish]

Allegedly the reason for the Eagles cutting Jackson is his affiliation with the Crips.

 

[stbugs]

Allegedly the reason for the Eagles cutting Jackson is his affiliation with the Crips.

Weird opportunity. Could be a real good or a real bad pickup. I would have to imagine that unless there is other info that we don't know that we have to take a look.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Panthers coach Ron Rivera told USA Today on Friday that "we'd be interested" in free agent DeSean Jackson.
Rivera may be feeling some outside pressure with his receiver corps in shambles five weeks away from the draft. The Charlotte Observer previously reported the Panthers weren't interested in Jackson. Perhaps that feeling has changed. "He's an intriguing player and we'll take a look at him," Rivera said. "I just got word (of D-Jax's release) and this is surprising to hear. He's an explosive player who has great vertical speed and is strong going to the ball."

Related: Panthers

Source: USA Today

 

[pantherclub]

Rotoworld:

Panthers coach Ron Rivera told USA Today on Friday that "we'd be interested" in free agent DeSean Jackson.

Rivera may be feeling some outside pressure with his receiver corps in shambles five weeks away from the draft. The Charlotte Observer previously reported the Panthers weren't interested in Jackson. Perhaps that feeling has changed. "He's an intriguing player and we'll take a look at him," Rivera said. "I just got word (of D-Jax's release) and this is surprising to hear. He's an explosive player who has great vertical speed and is strong going to the ball."

Related: Panthers

Source: USA Today

What's the worst that could happen?

 

[cstu]

Rotoworld:

Panthers coach Ron Rivera told USA Today on Friday that "we'd be interested" in free agent DeSean Jackson.

Rivera may be feeling some outside pressure with his receiver corps in shambles five weeks away from the draft. The Charlotte Observer previously reported the Panthers weren't interested in Jackson. Perhaps that feeling has changed. "He's an intriguing player and we'll take a look at him," Rivera said. "I just got word (of D-Jax's release) and this is surprising to hear. He's an explosive player who has great vertical speed and is strong going to the ball."

Related: Panthers

Source: USA Today

What's the worst that could happen?

The Panthers would have to sign him to a multi-year deal with a lot of guaranteed money to sign him and he causes trouble in the locker room (the exact thing they got rid of Steve Smith for).

 

[pantherclub]

They don't have a lot of room under the cap so they most certainly will not pay him a great deal.

 

[Faust]

Source: Panthers have no interest in DeSean Jackson

 

[Englishteacher]

The worst that can happen? Hernandez.

 

[NCCommish]

Rotoworld:

Panthers coach Ron Rivera told USA Today on Friday that "we'd be interested" in free agent DeSean Jackson.
Rivera may be feeling some outside pressure with his receiver corps in shambles five weeks away from the draft. The Charlotte Observer previously reported the Panthers weren't interested in Jackson. Perhaps that feeling has changed. "He's an intriguing player and we'll take a look at him," Rivera said. "I just got word (of D-Jax's release) and this is surprising to hear. He's an explosive player who has great vertical speed and is strong going to the ball."

Related: Panthers

Source: USA Today

This was before Rivera and crew had read about the gang stuff.

 

[NCCommish]

Jackson may have only one or two teams desperate enough to take a shot. Raiders look like his best bet. But if they don't bite he will have to play real cheap or not play I think until he can move past all this gang crap.

 

[jurb26]

Jackson may have only one or two teams desperate enough to take a shot. Raiders look like his best bet. But if they don't bite he will have to play real cheap or not play I think until he can move past all this gang crap.

Jackson will have a slew of teams interested in him. Wash and Oak are only the first at bat. I'm sure other teams are looking into his issues and their cap space before they go any further.

 

[BassNBrew]

I don't care if DJax is Crips or Bloods as long as Cam doesn't care and he and his posse stay on the south side of town.

 

[NCCommish]

Jackson may have only one or two teams desperate enough to take a shot. Raiders look like his best bet. But if they don't bite he will have to play real cheap or not play I think until he can move past all this gang crap.

Jackson will have a slew of teams interested in him. Wash and Oak are only the first at bat. I'm sure other teams are looking into his issues and their cap space before they go any further.

No he really won't unless he can untangle the gang thing. No one wants another Hernandez and there will be pressure from the top to make sure there isn't..

 

[NCCommish]

I don't care if DJax is Crips or Bloods as long as Cam doesn't care and he and his posse stay on the south side of town.

I say we stash them at the lake you should have some rentals to suggest.. We southsiders already have enough to deal with.

 

[jurb26]

Jackson may have only one or two teams desperate enough to take a shot. Raiders look like his best bet. But if they don't bite he will have to play real cheap or not play I think until he can move past all this gang crap.

Jackson will have a slew of teams interested in him. Wash and Oak are only the first at bat. I'm sure other teams are looking into his issues and their cap space before they go any further.

No he really won't unless he can untangle the gang thing. No one wants another Hernandez and there will be pressure from the top to make sure there isn't..

Reading thru the other Hackson threads, the gang thing gas been pretty well debunked.

 

[NCCommish]

Jackson may have only one or two teams desperate enough to take a shot. Raiders look like his best bet. But if they don't bite he will have to play real cheap or not play I think until he can move past all this gang crap.

Jackson will have a slew of teams interested in him. Wash and Oak are only the first at bat. I'm sure other teams are looking into his issues and their cap space before they go any further.

No he really won't unless he can untangle the gang thing. No one wants another Hernandez and there will be pressure from the top to make sure there isn't..

Reading thru the other Hackson threads, the gang thing gas been pretty well debunked.

Well we will see. The Eagles claim they found more than what was reported in the media. But hey if someone wants to take a chance have at. But this will be different than Hernandez if it goes south because they knew there was an issue.

 

[Noah Davis]

So I've seen two of mocks from the NFL network showing Bridgewater falling out of the 1st round (Bucky Brooks & Bryan Fischer) . Now I think this is highly unlikely but given our cap situation wouldn't he be the BPA at 28?

It would go something like this:

1. Snag Bridgewater @ 28 - give him 1 year under Cam.
2. In 2014 heavily feature Bridgewater in pre-season
3. If mathematically eliminated from playoffs feature Bridgewater in final games
4. In 2015 we'd have three options trade Cam for a kings ransom
5. Let Cam walk and get some choice compensatory picks.
6. Trade Bridgewater for multiple additional picks....

Any of the above options would put us in a better situation (cap or talent) with a limited drop-off in QB skill....if DG is truly running it like a business with the best decisions for the team.

 

[pantherclub]

So I've seen two of mocks from the NFL network showing Bridgewater falling out of the 1st round (Bucky Brooks & Bryan Fischer) . Now I think this is highly unlikely but given our cap situation wouldn't he be the BPA at 28?

It would go something like this:

1. Snag Bridgewater @ 28 - give him 1 year under Cam.
2. In 2014 heavily feature Bridgewater in pre-season
3. If mathematically eliminated from playoffs feature Bridgewater in final games
4. In 2015 we'd have three options trade Cam for a kings ransom
5. Let Cam walk and get some choice compensatory picks.
6. Trade Bridgewater for multiple additional picks....

Any of the above options would put us in a better situation (cap or talent) with a limited drop-off in QB skill....if DG is truly running it like a business with the best decisions for the team.

dude wtf? Seriously W.T.F?

Lay off the drugs this early in the day.

 

[The Commish]

Put me in the camp of those that don't "get" the Bridgewater love.

 

[Noah Davis]

So I've seen two of mocks from the NFL network showing Bridgewater falling out of the 1st round (Bucky Brooks & Bryan Fischer) . Now I think this is highly unlikely but given our cap situation wouldn't he be the BPA at 28?

It would go something like this:

1. Snag Bridgewater @ 28 - give him 1 year under Cam.
2. In 2014 heavily feature Bridgewater in pre-season
3. If mathematically eliminated from playoffs feature Bridgewater in final games
4. In 2015 we'd have three options trade Cam for a kings ransom
5. Let Cam walk and get some choice compensatory picks.
6. Trade Bridgewater for multiple additional picks....

Any of the above options would put us in a better situation (cap or talent) with a limited drop-off in QB skill....if DG is truly running it like a business with the best decisions for the team.

dude wtf? Seriously W.T.F?

Lay off the drugs this early in the day.

Why they make the day so enjoyable....as you can see initially I said Highly Unlikely it's just a theoretical exercise in maximizing return. I'd say there is less than a .001% chance of it happening.

I'm not a huge Bridgewater fan I just don't see a college QB calling plays at the line of scrimmage often as a junior - only two that come to mind are Manning @ UT and Luck @ Stanford....needless to say it got my attention. Short to intermediate accuracy is pinpoint. He's efficient and effective just not really fun to watch.

 

[NCCommish]

So I've seen two of mocks from the NFL network showing Bridgewater falling out of the 1st round (Bucky Brooks & Bryan Fischer) . Now I think this is highly unlikely but given our cap situation wouldn't he be the BPA at 28?

It would go something like this:

1. Snag Bridgewater @ 28 - give him 1 year under Cam.
2. In 2014 heavily feature Bridgewater in pre-season
3. If mathematically eliminated from playoffs feature Bridgewater in final games
4. In 2015 we'd have three options trade Cam for a kings ransom
5. Let Cam walk and get some choice compensatory picks.
6. Trade Bridgewater for multiple additional picks....

Any of the above options would put us in a better situation (cap or talent) with a limited drop-off in QB skill....if DG is truly running it like a business with the best decisions for the team.

You bring in Bridgewater you create QB controversy the first off game Cam has. It ain't happening.

 

[Englishteacher]

More low-level, value free agent looks. Was a Pro Bowler though. From NFL.com:

Thomas DeCoud to visit Carolina Panthers4

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• By Kevin Patra
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• Published: April 3, 2014 at 01:07 p.m.
• Updated: April 3, 2014 at 01:35 p.m.

Free safety Thomas DeCoud remains jobless after being cut by the Atlanta Falcons in February.

The 2012 Pro Bowl defensive back will visit the Carolina Panthers on Monday, NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported Thursday, according to a source. DeCoud previously visited the Detroit Lions.

Free-Agent Tracker

The Panthers' current starting safeties are newly signedRoman Harper and Charles Godfrey.

Godfrey was solid before injuring his Achilles tendon and missing all but two games in 2013. Coach Ron Rivera has been non-committal about the 28-year-old safety this offseason.

DeCoud, 29, struggled last season, leading to his release. In Carolina, the safety could be a potential low-level signing with good upside, which general manager Dave Gettleman feasted on last offseason leading thePanthers' run to the playoffs.

 

[Englishteacher]

Same story from PFT:

Panthers bringing Thomas DeCoud in for a visitPosted by Darin Gantt on April 3, 2014, 12:44 PM EDT

Getty ImagesPanthers general manager Dave Gettleman did good business last year, sifting through to discard pile and patching together a secondary.

It appears he’s looking to do the same thing, with nearby discards.

After signing former Saints safety Roman Harper, the Panthers are bringing in former Falcons safety Thomas DeCoud for a visit next week, according to Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network.

DeCoud’s a former Pro Bowler who fell out of favor in Atlanta in a hurry, leading to his release last month.

If the Panthers added him, it’s probably not a good sign for Charles Godfrey, who would either be on the way out or in line for a pay cut from the $5 million he’s scheduled to make this year.

Godfrey’s coming off an Achilles injury, but has some positional flexibility. The former college cornerback could play the slot corner role vacated by Captain Munnerlyn if he can get his cap numbers down.

 

[NCCommish]

It seems like Decoud had a down year just like the rest of the Falcons. If inexpensive he should be a solid signing here given our front 7 strength.

 

[BassNBrew]

Any thoughts on bringing in Reed, Samuel, and Bailey for the vet min. Maybe one has some gas left in the tank and they would like playing on a quality defense.

 

[Noah Davis]

So I've seen two of mocks from the NFL network showing Bridgewater falling out of the 1st round (Bucky Brooks & Bryan Fischer) . Now I think this is highly unlikely but given our cap situation wouldn't he be the BPA at 28?

It would go something like this:

• Snag Bridgewater @ 28 - give him 1 year under Cam.
• In 2014 heavily feature Bridgewater in pre-season
• If mathematically eliminated from playoffs feature Bridgewater in final games
• In 2015 we'd have three options trade Cam for a kings ransom
• Let Cam walk and get some choice compensatory picks.
• Trade Bridgewater for multiple additional picks....

Any of the above options would put us in a better situation (cap or talent) with a limited drop-off in QB skill....if DG is truly running it like a business with the best decisions for the team.

You bring in Bridgewater you create QB controversy the first off game Cam has. It ain't happening.

I get that hence the .001% chance qualifier I included all I am trying to gage is from THEORETICAL perspective I.e. For discussion only is there merit to it. Too me it is a straight money all concept....disconnect reality and evaluate on logic and merit. It is completely out of the box but so was drafting Russell Wilson. It went against conventional wisdom. Yet it is paying HUGE dividend

 

[pantherclub]

Drafting Wilson in the 3rd round was "out of the box"?

 

[Englishteacher]

Any thoughts on bringing in Reed, Samuel, and Bailey for the vet min. Maybe one has some gas left in the tank and they would like playing on a quality defense.

I'd be for it. At worst, it'd provide depth and I read on NFL.com they are hurting for work.

 

[Englishteacher]

Not good. From PFT:

Travelle Wharton says he’s leaning toward retirementPosted by Josh Alper on April 2, 2014, 2:52 PM EDT

Getty ImagesThe Panthers have already seen offensive linemen Jordan Gross and Geoff Hangartner retire since the end of last season and a third member of the line says he’s closing in on the same decision.

Guard Travelle Wharton was at South Carolina’s pro day on Wednesday and took his eyes off Jadeveon Clowney long enough to say that he’s leaning toward never facing Clowney in an NFL game. Wharton told Joseph Person of theCharlotte Observer that he’s leaning toward retirement, although no final decision has been made.

Wharton is currently ranked 101st on what is now PFT‘s Hot 100 and more list ofthe top free agents, but the 32-year-old hasn’t generated much buzz in free agency after a good season in Carolina. While that season hasn’t generated the offers Wharton might have liked at this point, an injury or deviation from draft plans could lead a team to come knocking on Wharton’s door before he totally closes it.

Wharton missed all of 2012 with a torn ACL, but returned to the Panthers last season to make 12 starts for the NFC South champions.

 

[Max Power]

I don't think its a lock the Panthers go WR in RD1. OL needs just as much attention.

 

[NCCommish]

So I've seen two of mocks from the NFL network showing Bridgewater falling out of the 1st round (Bucky Brooks & Bryan Fischer) . Now I think this is highly unlikely but given our cap situation wouldn't he be the BPA at 28?

It would go something like this:

• Snag Bridgewater @ 28 - give him 1 year under Cam.
• In 2014 heavily feature Bridgewater in pre-season
• If mathematically eliminated from playoffs feature Bridgewater in final games
• In 2015 we'd have three options trade Cam for a kings ransom
• Let Cam walk and get some choice compensatory picks.
• Trade Bridgewater for multiple additional picks....

Any of the above options would put us in a better situation (cap or talent) with a limited drop-off in QB skill....if DG is truly running it like a business with the best decisions for the team.

You bring in Bridgewater you create QB controversy the first off game Cam has. It ain't happening.

I get that hence the .001% chance qualifier I included all I am trying to gage is from THEORETICAL perspective I.e. For discussion only is there merit to it. Too me it is a straight money all concept....disconnect reality and evaluate on logic and merit. It is completely out of the box but so was drafting Russell Wilson. It went against conventional wisdom. Yet it is paying HUGE dividend

The Panthers considered drafting Wilson FWIW.

I just think the QB room is set. They have 2 guys with game experience sitting behind Cam today. Webb is here to try to take the number 2 job from DA IMO. Webb gives them a guy who should be able to run the offense without major changes unlike DA. I think if Webb proves anything this season he is the number 2 next year and DA moves on. Then they go back to carrying 2 QBs which seems to be DGs preferred strategy.

 

[NCCommish]

I don't think its a lock the Panthers go WR in RD1. OL needs just as much attention.

I think they'll go BPA and hope it matches need. I think there are going to be guys in the second and third rounds that would go earlier.most years as far as WR goes.

 

[pantherclub]

I don't think its a lock the Panthers go WR in RD1. OL needs just as much attention.

I think they'll go BPA and hope it matches need. I think there are going to be guys in the second and third rounds that would go earlier.most years as far as WR goes.

I hope a qb falls and they trade down and get some more 2nd or 3rd picks. this is a really deep draft this year

 

[NCCommish]

I don't think its a lock the Panthers go WR in RD1. OL needs just as much attention.

I think they'll go BPA and hope it matches need. I think there are going to be guys in the second and third rounds that would go earlier.most years as far as WR goes.

I hope a qb falls and they trade down and get some more 2nd or 3rd picks. this is a really deep draft this year

If they could get high enough picks in return I'd be good with that. But you can't give up the first round and not get a high second and third. I mean in the top ten both rounds minimum.