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Waive/injured guys technically have to pass through waivers. I believe it's a sort of unspoken rule that other teams generally don't claim them. Pats have done this before though... I think they claimed Jake Ballard (TE - NYG) his rookie year when he was injured in camp.
Everyone at round 6 has some warts, but this is who I thought they should have picked: http://www.foxsports.com/north/story/undrafted-richardson-out-to-prove-he-s-first-round-talent-052714
They are taking his This is Gross podcast and turning into a new TV show on the Panthers new sport network deal. Not sure the channel.
prior to the season they have to be cut and go through the waivers process to get to ir.
No, teams do this all the time. There is an unwritten rule that most teams follow where if you know the player is going to IR you don't snake them. But there is no written rule against it. I would bet several teams have done this already with no repercussions. And really all this upset over this guy is silly, Having watched the tape available on him I see him getting run down by average college guys. He was never going to be an RB at this level IMO. He might have been a pretty good fullback though. So yeah it sucks but NE didn't break any rules and I hope it works as well for them as the LaFell signing seems to be.
First, last year was a bit of a fluke. We weren't supposed to be the #2 seed in the NFC. Second, I agree on this draft. There were other WRs and OTs I liked late. Look at our now departed 6th round RB, we could have taken Antonio Richardson or tried to grab him as an UDFA. It wouldn't surprise me if he has a very solid career and I don't care how good we felt about our OTs they are unproven and you always need depth and potential. Third, we needed a red zone threat like Benjamin. If you didn't watch our offensive debacle against SF, then you might not get the pick. I initially didn't like him, but all reports have positive and he is 100% what we need in the red zone. So I can see your points, but we were competing for the SB last year. We should have beaten Seattle week 1 if not for a couple awful fumbles. We beat SF and NE and our WRs were terrible then. I actually like them better this year because believe it or not they have potential. I'd look at 2014 as a get your young guys better and compete and get ready for 2015. We overachieved in 2014, but we have some bad contracts that we need to shed so this year is prep for going all out. I hope we get another good WR and RB in the next draft or FA. Our D looks good for a while.
I don't share your opinion. I don't think the WRs we have this year are worse than what we had last year. I'm excited to see Benjamin develop as well as the other youngsters. The veterans Avant and Cotchery are solid, and Underwood got some good time in last year for the Bucs. We also have Olsen plus Dickson to pair with him. The RB position is fine. I'm not seeing the garbage you are.
plus they have tried drafting wideouts and they just didnt pan out. Lafell had all the tools but just couldnt get it done. He is a weird headache. Big strong fast but he just cannot play wr.
Wow, see, this is why I asked. I was curious to see how my views differ from the Panther fan. To me, Olsen is solid as hell. Beyond that, the RBs are ancient and made of tissue paper and the WRs are probably the worst in the league as a whole. Which one of them will be keeping defensive coordinatos up at night? Zero speed.
Benjamin is going to keep coordinators up. His lack of speed has been greatly exaggerated. So has his supposed lack of route knowledge. I mentioned it earlier but I love how people act like Lafell was Rice. Smitty had lost a step. People laughed when we brought Ginn in now he is all world or something. Cotchery and Avant are both better than anyone not named Smith we had last year as a WR. Benjamin is looking like a true number 1. We didn't have one last year even Smith admitted that. This offense is going to be more potent that people think.
When experienced defenders and a coach with 17 years as a player say he is true number one I am willing to go with their characterization. But we'll see. I just think the demise of the passing game has been greatly exaggerated.
Such a waste of a pick. I'll remember that one for a while if Richardson does well with the Vikings.
True, but I liked Richardson as a prospect based on his potential and I knew then that was a mistake for us grabbing a guy who I felt wouldn't contribute over a guy who "might" at a big position of need. Unfortunately, it seems to be playing out that way and it sucks because you can never have enough OL depth/talent/potential.
I always viewed Gaffney as a guy who'd make you look like a genius if he did anything but being a 6th rounder if he didn't pan out it wasn't that costly. I doubt we had to draft him as I think he would have been a UDFA but who knows? I was no more than lukewarm on the pick and then once I watched what tape I could find I went to unimpressed.
Right, that is the puzzling part. As you said, you don't hit on all your draft picks, but we had glaring holes at OT going into the draft. I'd much rather spend a pick on a guy with some red flags, but a guy who has the talent to be a starter at a need position than a guy who is a backup/special teamer at best. Maybe he isn't a starter for us, but if he is solid, we could use OL depth, look at this off-season. Best case, he gets back to his 2012 form and becomes your Jordan Gross for years. Gaffney would have never had that type of impact.NCCommish said:
I was just searching for a topic on him but couldn't find anything. According to Rotoworld, he's one of those "standouts at OTA's/camp" type guy that we hear about each year, but he was also PFF's #1 ranked TE on Week 1 of the preseason. He's definitely worth a speculative add and see how he pans out type guy. He's another one of those basketball players turned TE types that everyone seems to love. Just looked to add him in one of my dynasty leagues but of course there is a Panthers homer in there that has every Panthers player rostered so he wasn't available.
Williams is a guy that played sparingly in college. He was diagnosed with a spinal cord issue Stenosis. He played basketball instead. Went and got a second opinion and was cleared to play football. Got on the Panthers radar at one of the regional tryouts. Been a bit of a project due to being raw but by all accounts is really going strong now. Good blocker, very good athlete, has improved his route running and has nice hands. Got behind the defense and got a TD in the first game.
Thanks. As a Giants fan and big David Wilson supporter, the Stenosis thing is definitely a bit of a concern, but I guess everybody has varying degrees of the condition. Dickson really isn't anything special and if Williams really is a good blocker that can catch as well, I don't see him having too much of an issue passing Dickson.
Yep really been rooting for this guy. If you are an undrafted rookie or you get picked up off regional tryouts you want it to be with the Panthers. They really seem to have a best guy plays attitude.
He is a one cut kind of runner not going to dance around. He can run with power but I have also seen him run away from guys on film. He is good at making guys set their feet with a fake and then running around them in the open field. He looks like he can be a decent blocker. He also can catch at least a bit as he had several receiving touchdowns.
Jacquizz esque but I think he runs a little hotter
I thought the OL did well. Buffalo has a decent defense IMO.
Poor Jimmy can't catch a break. But yeah Benji really looks like another first round hit for the Panthers. All those bust of the draft guys going to be eating some crow. Not that it will matter. They will still be trying to tell us how smart they are next season. Speaking of Jimmy I'm looking at you Kiper.
Cam starting to warm up a bit
For a 14th round rb (I guess this depends on your league and format, but I grabbed him in round 14 last week), I think he's worth a shot.
Drafting him is easy - it's owning him that's hard - buy a ouija board so you can figure out his status from week to week
panthers aren't that bad --- now, maybe if it was the raiders, he might have something to worry about...........
Yes, draft on Sunday. That reminds me, I need to get the trophy engraved this week for Jeff. It's fun having the trophy, but not so fun bringing it back to the draft.
