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PlasmaDogPlasma said:
It seems like Elizabeth could have taken less than seven months to search the house and then entrap Don.
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My read was that discovery by the contact that the U.S. had an organ eating biological weapon is why the Russians suddenly accelerated it. If I recall, the contact did not want the Level 4 access prior to that, so they were in a holding pattern to request that access until they switched gears.

 
Uruk-Hai said:
What do you guys think Arkady's proposal to Gaad was? Wanting Gaad to turn?
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He could have at least listened to the offer and played it cool. Way overreacted. No idea what the offer was but I'm thinking maybe it had to do with Martha?

 
dal_boys_phan said:
My read was that discovery by the contact that the U.S. had an organ eating biological weapon is why the Russians suddenly accelerated it. If I recall, the contact did not want the Level 4 access prior to that, so they were in a holding pattern to request that access until they switched gears.
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How often does a family of 4 really leave their house unattended, especially for any length of time?  Also, I think Elizabeth was hoping that eventually her mission would not be needed.

 
dparker713 said:
How often does a family of 4 really leave their house unattended, especially for any length of time?  Also, I think Elizabeth was hoping that eventually her mission would not be needed.
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Elizabeth/Patty did the house search when she was babysitting to allow the parents to have some "kid free cabin time".  She made sure the kids were asleep and then went on the search.

 
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Still two episodes behind but the whole martha storyline was riveting television. Best stretch of episodes this show ever did.

 
shadyridr said:
Still two episodes behind but the whole martha storyline was riveting television. Best stretch of episodes this show ever did.
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Agreed, and that's saying something for a shows that's felt tense and claustrophobic from day one. I won't say anymore in response since you have a couple more to get caught up.

 
shadyridr said:
Still two episodes behind but the whole martha storyline was riveting television. Best stretch of episodes this show ever did.
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I just reached the same point.  It was riveting.  I definitely thought she was getting killed and am still not convinced she wasn't killed offscreen and that Philip will find out later.  Not that I'm in any hurry, but I've always thought the series ender the show runners have in mind is for Philip to kill Elizabeth and then defect.  

 
Over the past month or so, I've finally binge watched this show and am now caught up.   Great show.  Curious to know if we'll ever find out what they were going to propose to Gaad.

 
Renewed for the final two seasons.

http://deadline.com/2016/05/the-americans-end-run-2-season-renewal-fx-seasons-5-6-1201762485/

FX’s praised Cold War spy drama The Americans is getting an end date. The network has given the series, now airing its fourth season, a pickup for two more seasons, a 13-episode Season 5 to air in 2017 and 10-episode sixth and final season to air in 2018.

Additionally, FX Productions, which co-produces The Americans with Fox 21 TV Studios, has closed new overall deals with executive producers/co-showrunners Joe Weisberg, who created the series, and Joel Fields to develop their next show.

“Through its first four seasons, critics have lauded The Americans as one of the best shows on television and, remarkably, a series that keeps getting better every year,” said FX’s president of original programming Eric Schrier. “We have no doubt that this two-season order will allow Joe and Joel to tell this story to its perfect conclusion.”

Added Fox 21 president Bert Salke, “While we are already mourning the eventual end, we are grateful to FX for this generous two-season pickup that enables the show to go out on its own terms and gives the creators time to craft a final stretch as satisfying as the show itself.”

While The Americans has been lauded by critics throughout its run as one of the best dramas on TV, the series has been largely overlooked by the Emmys except for a best guest actress trophy won by Margo Martindale. (It has won TCA, Critics’ Choice and Peabody drama series awards.) The period drama starring Keri Russell and Matthew Rhys also has been a very modest ratings performer, helped a bit by solid DVR gains.

“It’s hard to believe we’re heading into the final stretch on The Americans, and we’re so grateful to know we’ll be telling the story to its conclusion,” said Joel Fields and Joe Weisberg. “It’s a lot of people putting their hearts and souls into The Americans, at this point for a lot of years. We’re looking forward to the final two.”

Joe Weisberg and Joel Fields executive produce alongside Graham Yost, Chris Long and Stephen Schiff , along with Amblin Television heads Justin Falvey and Darryl Frank. Joshua Brand is consulting Producer. The Americans is produced by Fox 21 Television Studios and FX Productions.

 
Aerial Assault said:
I just reached the same point.  It was riveting.  I definitely thought she was getting killed and am still not convinced she wasn't killed offscreen and that Philip will find out later.  Not that I'm in any hurry, but I've always thought the series ender the show runners have in mind is for Philip to kill Elizabeth and then defect.  
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I think the show will end with both of them dead.  

 
3C's said:
I think they'll both grow weary of their duties and become double-agents. :ph34r:   :D
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Yeah, I could certainly see that happening.  I think Phillip in particular is having a lot of doubts.  I guess he has since the very beginning of the show.  

I feel like most TV & movie writers feel compelled to eventually bring killers to justice, and they've murdered a lot of people.  I'm sure there are exceptions, though.  

 
Jeremy said:
Yeah, I could certainly see that happening.  I think Phillip in particular is having a lot of doubts.  I guess he has since the very beginning of the show.  

I feel like most TV & movie writers feel compelled to eventually bring killers to justice, and they've murdered a lot of people.  I'm sure there are exceptions, though.  
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Elizabeth definitely doesn't like the fallout of her latest effort. :mellow:

Immunity for all the secrets they could share. Of course this will all be wrong. The real ending: the family will finally go to Epcot and fade to black.

 
Final Scene...

November 1989 - Paige is a Senior at George Mason University, and is spending the Fall semester abroad in Europe. When the East Germans announce a policy change for Berlin, she makes her way there, and joins in the celebration tearing down the Berlin Wall.

Her parents catch a glimpse of Paige in the news footage on TV. Philip grins, and yells for Henry to come watch. Elizabeth's reaction is more enigmatic, part grimace, but a hint of a wry smile.

 
Along those lines, I know some wished she (Paige) would go away. She has a nice role now and the actress is doing a very good job.

 
I think they have done a really good job with the Paige character as they have given her a ton of conflict to deal with which the actress had handled masterfully.   

It's also interesting that, for the first time, Elizabeth seems genuinely conflicted.  Philip had always been the softer one, and the one portrayed as most likely to flip, but this thing with Don has really affected Elizabeth.  

One observation, is it odd that something as sensitive as a level 4 biochemical grade material is accessible by a person who is not an born American?  Of course Don could easily have become a citizen although they have not even made his nationality clear, but he is certainly an adult immigrant.  

I wonder what limitations are held on giving highly sensitive jobs to somebody who isn't American by birth.  This is sort of why the Russians are hoping to recruit Paige, right?    For example would the CIA or FBI ever reasonably be headed by a person who is not a natural citizen and very easily vetted?

 
I know I just can't wait to see all the fits and crying and moodiness we get from Paige now that she's seen what her mom can do.

You know, as opposed to thanking mom for keeping her from getting raped by bums.

 
Psychopav said:
That dinner was almost as awkward as Walt-Jesse-Skylar.

Great episode...
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Was just coming here to post that. Pastor Tim's look of unbridled glee when he heard Stan was FBI was priceless.

The scam on Don seemed, to me, a little too convoluted. But maybe they thought coming at him directly for the code wouldn't work? 

 
Righetti said:
I think they have done a really good job with the Paige character as they have given her a ton of conflict to deal with which the actress had handled masterfully.   

It's also interesting that, for the first time, Elizabeth seems genuinely conflicted.  Philip had always been the softer one, and the one portrayed as most likely to flip, but this thing with Don has really affected Elizabeth.  
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It's funny because even as it seems she is conflicted, I can't help but think she's playing Pastor Tim for some reason. I wasn't sure if she was serious or putting on an act.

 
jamny said:
It's funny because even as it seems she is conflicted, I can't help but think she's playing Pastor Tim for some reason. I wasn't sure if she was serious or putting on an act.
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I agree.  I keep vacillating between 'she's about to break down for real' and 'she's laying the groundwork to seduce him'.  Since she hasn't discussed this with Philip, I am leaving toward the former, and this being her 'EST moment'.

 
Psychopav said:
I agree.  I keep vacillating between 'she's about to break down for real' and 'she's laying the groundwork to seduce him'.  Since she hasn't discussed this with Philip, I am leaving toward the former, and this being her 'EST moment'.
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I don't know about seducing him but I still think she doesn't trust him and she keeps saying how she'll do anything to protect Paige. I also think there's something suspicious about Pastor Tim going missing.

 
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
I love this show, but I'm not sure two more seasons won't be stretching it.
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3 seasons felt about right. that's gotta be the capper on most of these types of shows.  any more than that and they start throwing in ridiculous scenarios.  it has felt tense and realistic to this point.. i hope they don't #### it up

 
that episode felt too predictable. all the way down to the end scene.

like they needed to build in a pause on the series for a week

 
Why oh why couldn't Mom just let the guys take Paige out to take the misery of watching her away.. "did you have to kill him?"  :wall:

Finale next week looks like a good one :popcorn:

 
Weird! The season finale is on now. And only 20 minutes. 

So says Directv anyway.

 
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3C's said:
Weird! The season finale is on now. And only 20 minutes. 

So says Directv anyway.
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wtf?

I don't want to turn it on because it's at the end but you're right. Unless it's just a sneak preview.

It shows it as an hour and 15 minutes tonight.

 
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I know. Very weird. http://www.imdb.com/tvgrid/2016-06-08/0610?ref_=tttv_tv_dt_1#FX

I'm glad I checked because my DVR is recording this one and none others. Just set it to record tonight too.
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Wow, just checked the living room dvr and had the same thing. It had nothing to do with The Americans, it was an exercise video with Regis Philbin. And tonight's episode wouldn't have recorded. Thanks for the heads up. A lot of people will be pissed if they don't catch the mistake.

 
It's bizarre. If you click on that IMDB link or go to IMDB and find today's episode it says it aired at 06:10.

 
I think we need more of Paige looking pensive.  Good God, I'm hoping she gets whacked soon.  Other than that the show is fantastic.  

 
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Very good season but I had hoped for something a little more dramatic at the end. Not a complaint though, looking forward to next season.

 
My DVR has ####ed this up every week for like half the season.  Thank goodness for FXNow app....

strong season....the noose is starting to tighten...

 
Loved how Philip and Elizabeth were almost accidentally grooming Paige the way the Center wants them to, subtly teaching her how to be a handler (with the Pastor and his wife being her agents), managing the personalities and emotions of people she needs to keep content and get in good with.

Then there was a moment when they were both sitting at the dining room table, where Paige corrects her mother on the best way to approach the Pastor and his wife after the birth of their baby...just like when Philip and Elizabeth have disagreed with their handlers in the past on how best to approach their own agents, having a deeper understanding of their personalities and the relationships involved. That's when Elizabeth started to realize what was happening.

And then when Paige started reporting what Matthew was saying, that's when Elizabeth and Philip both finally saw what they had been doing. I thought it was intentional all along, a gradual training process brought on by the necessity of the situation with Pastor Tim that just happened to line up with the Center's plans...but their reaction to her reporting Matthews intel kinda showed that they hadn't realized what they were doing imo.

Paige is a natural at it, once she got over having to fake all of her church interactions now. And now she wants self defense training from Elizabeth. I don't think the show will be on long enough for it to really happen or if Philip would allow it, but Paige clearly has an aptitude for this like they did/do.

Idk why anyone is complaining about her reaction to Elizabeth's hobo murder in the parking lot--she actually got over that relatively quickly and even accepted the fact that her mother told her that she had basically killed so many people "in self defense" that she couldn't remember how many she'd killed. She took it in stride and was all-in after that.

 
Loved Stan's :thumbup:  reaction to his son getting to first base with Paige and then the look on Phillip's face.  

 
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