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Fwiw, just caught up so broad thoughts on the season:

Started a little slow and fragmented but the last two have picked things up, especially this last one.

The music does mean so much. I guess because of the emotional resonance and ability to ring back memories and how you felt at key times in life. I couldn't stand Yaz as a middle school kid where all the chicks listened to that and violent femmes, but it was perfect to set the backdrop in this episode.

 
Officer Pete Malloy said:
Daywalker said:
The look on his face as he seduces that girl in the last scene?

Show goes into areas that haven't been so overdone in tv/film. Refreshing.
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Like what?
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For the most part Walter White was against other bad guys. Not that difficult to get behind. Similar to Tony Soprano.

In The Americans they are trying to subvert the U.S. and everyday citizens. Odd to find myself rooting for them. The entertainment is getting past that tendency and start rooting against them.

 
I didnt watch last nights episode yet but I gotta get one thing off my chest. This show is boring. Its VERY well done, very well written, very well acted, and very well directed but its boring. After three seasons, I gotta admit it. Not much really happens episode to episode. Also, i really dont root for any characters. Only one I like is Phil (and Clark lol) but I really dont root for him. The kids are just there. Keri Russell is loathesome. The FBI guy is so blah. The Russians are interesting but I am reading what they say most of the time. Just a weird show. Yet Ill keep watching and I dont know why. Carry on.

 
Raider Nation said:
PLEASE pop a cap into this terribly uncomfortable storyline with the 15-year-old seducing the disgusting, creepy old guy.
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Between that and the overwhelming Paige and Church storyline they're starting to lose me. (Although the latter did provide a couple good yuks late in the episode).

Interesting to see if Beeman going to the funeral provides any spy-related storyline or is it all personal woe.

 
did they change writers this season?

I was hoping more intrigue around Afghanistan

it seems they are focusing too much on the teeny-boppers

 
Just started watching this a few weeks ago and now am all caught up. This is a mostly fantastic show.

I do agree that they could without the two teenage girl story lines which are dominant now. Probably best if they just replace those scenes with more footage of Keri Russell's bare ###

 
So what exactly did Nina extract from her cell mate? I was kind of hoping they were going to make out a little.

 
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So what exactly did Nina extract from her cell mate? I was kind of hoping they were going to make out a little.
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That she was in on the "drop".. Up until that point she had proclaimed her innocence and that she had been setup..

By getting her to admit that she knew what she was doing they can now get more information from her. :bye:

 
It's amazing how good a spy Elizabeth is but how unvonvincing she is (the character not Keri Russell) when she is around Paige. You can see right through her. Not sure if this is by design or just an oddity in the show but she can't even fain genuine interest in anything Paige does.

 
Can somebody enlighten me to who the the two south African apartheid fighters guys are?

I remember the one guy was the second most wanted man in SA and the kid was some privileged kid who was starting some Revolution in campus but I'm a bit list why the Russians have any interest in them, why they capture then and who the black guy is

 
Righetti said:
Can somebody enlighten me to who the the two south African apartheid fighters guys are?

I remember the one guy was the second most wanted man in SA and the kid was some privileged kid who was starting some Revolution in campus but I'm a bit list why the Russians have any interest in them, why they capture then and who the black guy is
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The Russians were heavily involved with anti-apartheid groups in SA at that time. The black guy is apparently an important figure in one of those groups. The guy the couple grabbed was a SA government guy that wanted to kill the black guy.

 
Hans is the guy working with Elizabeth.

Todd is the other white SA kid. He's posing as a campus radical with the end apartheid movement. Hans (correctly) suspects Todd of actually being a pro-apartheid plant, here to discredit the anti- movement.

Reuben (black guy) is a wanted SA freedom fighter who the KGB wants to use as bait to capture Todd and, more importantly, Vettner (sp?). So, Todd sets up a meeting with Reuben (or the other way around) under the pretense of being a fellow freedom fighter.

Vettner is the older guy Philip takes out at the end and throws in the van along with Todd. Vettner was some kind of SA government spy dude who wanted to kidnap/kill Reuben.

The lady Elizabeth shot was another SA operative. I'm guessing the van she was near was the one they were going to dump Reuben into.

 
She's maybe the most tragic character in this thing. She is basically the living embodiment of the story Nina shared about doing it for love. A bit far fetched though. I mean she sees Phillip what 1 night a month or so?

 
Uruk-Hai said:
Hans is the guy working with Elizabeth.

Todd is the other white SA kid. He's posing as a campus radical with the end apartheid movement. Hans (correctly) suspects Todd of actually being a pro-apartheid plant, here to discredit the anti- movement.

Reuben (black guy) is a wanted SA freedom fighter who the KGB wants to use as bait to capture Todd and, more importantly, Vettner (sp?). So, Todd sets up a meeting with Reuben (or the other way around) under the pretense of being a fellow freedom fighter.

Vettner is the older guy Philip takes out at the end and throws in the van along with Todd. Vettner was some kind of SA government spy dude who wanted to kidnap/kill Reuben.

The lady Elizabeth shot was another SA operative. I'm guessing the van she was near was the one they were going to dump Reuben into.
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Thank you, this makes it all a lot more clear

 
I think this season is great. It's slow, but it's still great. My only complaint is that you have to be fully locked and loaded when you're watching, no checking phone, etc. Accents are heavy, tons of characters and storylines, etc.

Question - the red head chick that Keri Russel shot, was she just "in the way" or was she some undercover person?

 
Tiger Fan said:
I think this season is great. It's slow, but it's still great. My only complaint is that you have to be fully locked and loaded when you're watching, no checking phone, etc. Accents are heavy, tons of characters and storylines, etc.

Question - the red head chick that Keri Russel shot, was she just "in the way" or was she some undercover person?
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She was one of the SA bad guys. She had the accent, plus I don't think Elizabeth would have shot her since she (SA chick) didn't see anything up to that point.

 
Uruk-Hai said:
Tiger Fan said:
I think this season is great. It's slow, but it's still great. My only complaint is that you have to be fully locked and loaded when you're watching, no checking phone, etc. Accents are heavy, tons of characters and storylines, etc.

Question - the red head chick that Keri Russel shot, was she just "in the way" or was she some undercover person?
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She was one of the SA bad guys. She had the accent, plus I don't think Elizabeth would have shot her since she (SA chick) didn't see anything up to that point.
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I had to watch that scene twice to figure out what the hell was happening. I think you're right, but they've a poor job with this particular storyline.

 
I do sometimes think they add too many storylines to ever make this seem reasonably plausible.

I'd think that if there were Russian spies planted in the US, they wouldn't risk them on this many jobs constantly. It's like they are running them in circles and one wrong move or one recognition could cost them their entire operation which they've spent a lifetime to set up. This is why this South African thing seemed like overkill

 
I don't think they're trying for "real" on the spy side of things, which is interesting since one of the show runners is ex-CIA. I also think they give vague clues that most of us don't pick up on every time. "Pay attention, but not too much" seems to be what they're saying.

 
Uruk-Hai said:
Officer Pete Malloy said:
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Malloy doesn't like it? Shocked.
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I hated the pilot. Then I gave it a shot. It grew on me a little. I was actually surprised at how much it improved.

But the last 4-5 episodes have been boring and weak. They could do much better.
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I literally fell asleep 20 minutes into this last episode.
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DVR it and watch the next day, fellow old man
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I was watching it on DVR. And I can't think of the last time I fell asleep in front of the TV.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
Uruk-Hai said:
Tiger Fan said:
I think this season is great. It's slow, but it's still great. My only complaint is that you have to be fully locked and loaded when you're watching, no checking phone, etc. Accents are heavy, tons of characters and storylines, etc.

Question - the red head chick that Keri Russel shot, was she just "in the way" or was she some undercover person?
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She was one of the SA bad guys. She had the accent, plus I don't think Elizabeth would have shot her since she (SA chick) didn't see anything up to that point.
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I had to watch that scene twice to figure out what the hell was happening. I think you're right, but they've a poor job with this particular storyline.
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The white dude they kidnapped wanted to pose as anti-apartheid and blow something up in order to set the movement back. Elizabeth and Phillip were ordered to take him out of the equation so that doesn't happen. I assume the black dude was a communist sympathizer who was on board for this mission as well as anti-apartheid.

 
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