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Have about a dozen or 20 locations left, including the NJ TPKE and NYS Thruway.PlasmaDogPlasma said:I've never even seen a Roy Rogers. Are they still in business?
Have about a dozen or 20 locations left, including the NJ TPKE and NYS Thruway.PlasmaDogPlasma said:I've never even seen a Roy Rogers. Are they still in business?
Maybe, though Paige calling her mother a whore is right up there."You just wanted to bang her because you weren't getting enough action here."
Maybe the line of the season.
Did you notice Keri Russell's forehead and eye veins popping out when she was having that argument with Paige? About a year or so ago, I saw this interview with Keri, Matthew, and one of the showrunners, and they were talking about her forehead veins that pop out when she is mad. The editor wanted to edit out the veins on Keri's forehead to make her look prettier, and Keri said absolutely not. She said she didn't want to look pretty when she is mad. The showrunner said some critics call it her Emmy vein (although she has never won an Emmy for playing Elizabeth).Maybe, though Paige calling her mother a whore is right up there.
Needs to happen this year. Or is it too late already?although she has never won an Emmy for playing Elizabeth
I think the next Emmys will be the show's last shot.Needs to happen this year. Or is it too late already?
A lamb stew recipe. Clarice Starling is on the case for the FBI.Oooooooh, Irish spies! What are they after, secret boiled potato recipe?
Renee rats him out in the ultimate final twist.I think Stan helps Oleg because Gorbachev is better for world peace, but the FBI superiors will see it as treasonous...
I think she gets the Emmy this year. She's been magnificent.Needs to happen this year. Or is it too late already?
I miss Tanner in this one. Guess it got good enough to not bother criticizing or boring enough to not bother criticizing.And BTW..thanks to Insein...I am going to come to this thread as often as possible and cockpunch this show.
Wasn't even sure if the show was still on.Insein said:I miss Tanner in this one. Guess it got good enough to not bother criticizing or boring enough to not bother criticizing.
She'll be interrogated but can't she act dumb? Like she didn't know anything. The only one who knows is Stan and he can't say anything.Thought it was great, but dumb question....I guess Paige will be on the run for the rest of her life? From both the feds and the center?
Yeah I guess she could just act dumb, but I would have to think the Centre would be after her ASAP (or at least until Philip and Elizabeth get the word to the right people in Russia about the Centre.She'll be interrogated but can't she act dumb? Like she didn't know anything. The only one who knows is Stan and he can't say anything.
Paige didn't run. Philip and Elizabeth took the easy way out. They knew their chances of living a decent life were much better in Russian than in America. Paige didn't. She could easily end up in jail the rest of her life, but I think she was the braver one in this case because her future is so uncertain, and she seemingly did it because she didn't want Henry to be alone. Philip and Elizabeth chose flight over fight. Elizabeth even tossed the cyanide pill in the dirt with Henry's passport. Even at the end I had a hard time feeling any sympathy for them. Like Stan said, they murdered countless people in the DC area, ruined their kids' lives and then Philip took the parting shot by mentioning Renee to Stan. And they got away with everything.Yeah I guess she could just act dumb, but I would have to think the Centre would be after her ASAP (or at least until Philip and Elizabeth get the word to the right people in Russia about the Centre.
It might be Paige’s best bet to ask Stan’s advice on witness protection
Or killed by the Soviets because of 'loose ends.'Paige didn't run. Philip and Elizabeth took the easy way out. They knew their chances of living a decent life were much better in Russian than in America. Paige didn't. She could easily end up in jail the rest of her life, but I think she was the braver one in this case because her future is so uncertain, and she seemingly did it because she didn't want Henry to be alone. Philip and Elizabeth chose flight over fight. Elizabeth even tossed the cyanide pill in the dirt with Henry's passport. Even at the end I had a hard time feeling any sympathy for them. Like Stan said, they murdered countless people in the DC area, ruined their kids' lives and then Philip took the parting shot by mentioning Renee to Stan. And they got away with everything.
Dumb old Stan even had his gun down at one point before they left. You could give CrossEyed a week of training and he'd be a better FBI agent.I thought for sure Stan was going to shoot Philip.
I agree that Paige basically chose Henry over her parents, who have done nothing but lie to her. I don't think Philip was taking a parting shot by mentioning to Stan the possibility of Renee being a spy. As a friend, he honestly wanted to warn him of his suspicions so that he doesn't get blindsided again. Of course, that sets up a torturous scenario that probably ruins the marriage if she isn't a spy. But her being a spy without him knowing is probably a worse outcome. Probably not telling him and her ending up not being a spy is the only good possible outcome, but Philip didn't really have time to plan this out. He was warning a friend he wasn't going to see again.Paige didn't run. Philip and Elizabeth took the easy way out. They knew their chances of living a decent life were much better in Russian than in America. Paige didn't. She could easily end up in jail the rest of her life, but I think she was the braver one in this case because her future is so uncertain, and she seemingly did it because she didn't want Henry to be alone. Philip and Elizabeth chose flight over fight. Elizabeth even tossed the cyanide pill in the dirt with Henry's passport. Even at the end I had a hard time feeling any sympathy for them. Like Stan said, they murdered countless people in the DC area, ruined their kids' lives and then Philip took the parting shot by mentioning Renee to Stan. And they got away with everything.
Good call, this didn't even cross my mind. I was thinking she just couldn't keep it together.Very good final episode. I'm glad it didn't end with a shootout or some ridiculous race to leap across the border. And that it ended with Philip and Elizabeth together, since so much of the show revolved around their marriage.
Many at the Centre are very unhappy with Elizabeth's recent actions - does she survive in Russia long enough to rebuild a decent life there?
Did Paige refuse to speak to Henry on the pay phone because she knew she would get off the train before crossing the border - didn't want the authorities to know she was with her parents if they were listening in, and wanted to be able to play innocent to Henry?
I initially thought like you but I was still thinking about the show trying to fall asleep last night and then had that same thought as TMM. Pretty awesome if that's the case, and I was hoping Sepinwall would have asked that in his wrap up with the creators.Good call, this didn't even cross my mind. I was thinking she just couldn't keep it together.
I think the #1 reason is that they wanted to get the message back re: Gorbachev.Agree with most, very solid closing episode. Maybe because I expected more mayhem and death, but I'm glad they didn't go that way.
Philip and Elizabeth had no choice really. Did they take the easy way out and run? I guess you could look at it that way, but they had no other good option. Life in jail or the possibility of a decent life somewhere. Nobody is choosing jail. They did what they had to do, pretty much like always. My question is, why did they choose to go, or have to go, to Russia? Their roots? Most difficult place for the US to extract them from if they wanted to? Why not just go hide out and build a new life somewhere in Europe or Asia?
The Stan and Philip exchange was perfectly done and I do think he was telling Stan about Renee as a friend.
It was great that Paige went to the safe house to slam some vodka. End of the day, I'm probably most satisfied by her decision over anyone else's. She'll be there for her brother and I don't think her story ends by facing any kind of charges or whatever. Maybe she has to worry about the Centre, but that's crumbling. No chance she continues as a spy, right?
Confirmed in this interview:The Stan and Philip exchange was perfectly done and I do think he was telling Stan about Renee as a friend.
Right. Her parents true identities are known now, and she will be under a watchful eye. I doubt the Centre would go after her to hurt her. She never really knew the true nature of their missions, because Claudia and Elizabeth talked those details when she would leave the room/apartment. She always knew the positive side of what they were doing as spies, except hearing what her parents told Stan about the Centre in the parking garage. She also thinks her parents never killed anyone. The Centre doesn't know she originally ran with her parents, and neither does the FBI (except for Stan). Stan would protect Paige, and Paige would protect Stan.No chance she continues as a spy, right?
Yeah, Philip and Elizabeth had to get back to deliver the message themselves.I think the #1 reason is that they wanted to get the message back re: Gorbachev.
If we assume that they do, it really makes Stan out to be the hero in all of this by letting them go.
I liked this Q&A about their disguises.Those disguises shouldn't have held up.
At what cost and... for what gain?And they got away with everything.
good pointssimey said:Right. Her parents true identities are known now, and she will be under a watchful eye. I doubt the Centre would go after her to hurt her. She never really knew the true nature of their missions, because Claudia and Elizabeth talked those details when she would leave the room/apartment. She always knew the positive side of what they were doing as spies, except hearing what her parents told Stan about the Centre in the parking garage. She also thinks her parents never killed anyone. The Centre doesn't know she originally ran with her parents, and neither does the FBI (except for Stan). Stan would protect Paige, and Paige would protect Stan.
Right, I guess I overlooked the immediate nature of the message in favor of their long term plan.Tiger Fan said:I think the #1 reason is that they wanted to get the message back re: Gorbachev.
If we assume that they do, it really makes Stan out to be the hero in all of this by letting them go.
It was a classic horror movie move: Build up the tension, release it and let the audience relax, and then hit them with the hammer.Paige on the train platform was the biggest "holy crap!" moment for me.
They got my dumb ###, that's for sureIt was a classic horror movie move: Build up the tension, release it and let the audience relax, and then hit them with the hammer.
i thouggt when stan left the house after he hugged his wife he was going to blow his brains outThey got my dumb ###, that's for sure
What I liked about this show was how it showed "real life" and "true human emotions" through the lens of the typical American family that is anything, but.i thouggt when stan left the house after he hugged his wife he was going to blow his brains out