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The countup to 3000 hits (1 Viewer)
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Notorious T.R.E.
Showdown!™ Administrator
My bad. For those ages I was just using baseball-reference.com and their age last season. I think b-r.com uses their age in June though so it said 28. I was too lazy to do the math.
Giantseasonticketholder
Whammy
I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Jeter in the OF in a few years, al a Robin Yount. SS is much more demanding than say, LF. It will be interesting to see if Jeter plays beyond his current contract. We'll see 7 years from now. 3,000 hits would certainly cement his place in Cooperstown.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
This is insufferable.
blake
Footballguy
[QUOTE=']Raffy needs 55 to make him even more of a lock for the HoF than he already is...
[/QUOTE]Which is a shame in its own right as he is certainly one of many in the HOF that don't deserve it at all, but hey, I'll take my Palmeiro complaints somewhere else.Jeter is truly great.
[/QUOTE]Which is a shame in its own right as he is certainly one of many in the HOF that don't deserve it at all, but hey, I'll take my Palmeiro complaints somewhere else.Jeter is truly great.
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blake
Footballguy
Have to admit, this made me laugh and nothing more. 10% is folly at best.
To further poke holes in your theory, a lot of the 3000 hit club had power? Interesting...Pete Rose
Ty Cobb
Tris Speaker
Cap Anson
Honus Wagner
Paul Molitor
Eddie Collins
I only listed seven players of the top 10 on the all-time most hits list as the other three (Musial, Aaron and Yastrzemski) had power. Did these guys have a lot of power? Among all seven combined, there were TWO 20 homer seasons.
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Notorious T.R.E.
Showdown!™ Administrator
Have to admit, this made me laugh and nothing more. 10% is folly at best.To further poke holes in your theory, a lot of the 3000 hit club had power? Interesting...Pete Rose
Ty Cobb
Tris Speaker
Cap Anson
Honus Wagner
Paul Molitor
Eddie Collins
I only listed seven players of the top 10 on the all-time most hits list as the other three (Musial, Aaron and Yastrzemski) had power. Did these guys have a lot of power? Among all seven combined, there were TWO 20 homer seasons.
Cobb was top 10 in slugging 16 of 24 season, #1 eight different times.Speaker was top 10 in 16 of his 22 seasons.
Honus Wagner - 15 of 21 seasons, 6 times in first.
Eddie Collins - 9 top tens. Cap Anson - 12.
Molitor and Rose are the only exceptions from the list you've given and they both played a very long time. Do you see Jeter finishing his career as a DH or at 1B?
Jeter has zero top ten finishes in SLG%.
I still give Jeter a 10% chance.
C
CrossEyed
Guest
Do you get the feeling that no one else really cares?
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
How many career hits does Jack Wilson have.
C
CrossEyed
Guest
Not sure, but he had 13 more hits than Jeter last year.
Giantseasonticketholder
Whammy
Well, if you started the thread 35 days ago, and it's averaging lets say 30 views a day, and Jeter continues his pace of a hit per day I'd pinpoint August 12th as that day.He did swing at a bad pitch that resulted in a DP, but did hit a liner with the basesloaded that was at Burnitz.
Giantseasonticketholder
Whammy
DJ's first career Grand Slam 
Giantseasonticketholder
Whammy
[QUOTE=']18 more for Raffy and make his lock for the Hall of Fame (first ballot) even more of a lock than it already is...
[/QUOTE]It's sad when a DH gets in the Hall. Part time players don't deserve it. Especially on the first ballot.By the way, 5 hits for DJ tonight!
1818!
[/QUOTE]It's sad when a DH gets in the Hall. Part time players don't deserve it. Especially on the first ballot.By the way, 5 hits for DJ tonight!
1818!
Giantseasonticketholder
Whammy
Sorry, I just got back and saw you didn't post yet. Very big night indeed!
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
It's sad when a DH gets in the Hall. Part time players don't deserve it. Especially on the first ballot.Giantseasonticketholder said:
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Yea, I guess there should be NO pitchers in the hall since they only play about 10% of everyone else. Plus there hitting stats are way below hall standards. Not to mention AL pitchers don't even go to the plate. It's sad when a DH gets in the Hall. Part time players don't deserve it. Especially on the first ballot.[/QUOTE]I see that you are an idiot...Before this season...Giantseasonticketholder said:
1B : 2046
DH : 423
OF : 212
This year...
1B : 58
DH : 11
Yes he does some DHing, but he usually plays the field...
Giantseasonticketholder
Whammy
It's sad when a DH gets in the Hall. Part time players don't deserve it. Especially on the first ballot.[/QUOTE]I see that you are an idiot...Before this season...
1B : 2046
DH : 423
OF : 212
This year...
1B : 58
DH : 11
Yes he does some DHing, but he usually plays the field...
[/QUOTE]Sorry, I guess I'm still sore over that joke of a Gold Glove he was given in 1999.3,000 hits will put him in for sure.
Giantseasonticketholder
Whammy
No Raffy Palmeiro fans
Giantseasonticketholder
Whammy
Giantseasonticketholder
Whammy
Notorious T.R.E.
Showdown!™ Administrator
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
I'm not a big fan of Raffy's case for the Hall, but 600/3000 is not going to be denied. I don't like that he has basically been a better then average part-time player for a long time. But then again, thats part of baseball, so it qualifies.COlin
Giantseasonticketholder
Whammy
It's sad when a DH gets in the Hall. Part time players don't deserve it. Especially on the first ballot.
[/QUOTE]
Yea, I guess there should be NO pitchers in the hall since they only play about 10% of everyone else. Plus there hitting stats are way below hall standards. Not to mention AL pitchers don't even go to the plate. [/QUOTE]That's not my point, but to further expand yours, there will be less and less primarily starting pitchers going to the Hall in the future. Clemens, Maddux, Pedro, and RJ are first ballot, no question. Is there another sure-fire HOF'er out there after that?
[/QUOTE]Possibly John Smoltz... 170 wins, 154 saves, 3.26 ERA, 1.17 WHIPComparison to Eck (who pitched relief a lot longer)... 197 wins, 390 saves, 3.50 ERA, 1.16 WHIP
[/QUOTE]Possibly. I feel if he stayed as a closer, he would easily have surpassed 300 save and with his career as a starter, it woould most certainly have been enough to get him there.Rivera is a definite First Ballot but he is not a starter. I think closers will become more prevelant in HOF voting in the next 20 years and there will be more closers getting in than starters.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
Yea, I guess there should be NO pitchers in the hall since they only play about 10% of everyone else. Plus there hitting stats are way below hall standards. Not to mention AL pitchers don't even go to the plate. [/QUOTE]That's not my point, but to further expand yours, there will be less and less primarily starting pitchers going to the Hall in the future. Clemens, Maddux, Pedro, and RJ are first ballot, no question. Is there another sure-fire HOF'er out there after that?
[/QUOTE]Possibly John Smoltz... 170 wins, 154 saves, 3.26 ERA, 1.17 WHIPComparison to Eck (who pitched relief a lot longer)... 197 wins, 390 saves, 3.50 ERA, 1.16 WHIP
[/QUOTE]Possibly. I feel if he stayed as a closer, he would easily have surpassed 300 save and with his career as a starter, it woould most certainly have been enough to get him there.Rivera is a definite First Ballot but he is not a starter. I think closers will become more prevelant in HOF voting in the next 20 years and there will be more closers getting in than starters.
[/QUOTE]Are you actually trying to trademark "first ballot"?BTW, answer my question please. What was your point regarding the DH? How is that any more of a "part time player" than a pitcher?
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