Henry Ford
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Both due today. One electronic filing (thank God) and one bound and mailed. I'm getting so drunk tonight.
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Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
I've met every one of "them." Hate them all.
CLE brings out the best (and by best I mean absolute worst) of our profession.
How about the attorney that asks a question of the panel that has a judge on it he practices in front of alot and the question morphs into a joke with the judge about that one case that they had together that isn't even in the topic field of the CLE?
I love the retired attorney who is still getting his CLE because he has nothing else to do who asks multiple questions all based on cases he had 40 years ago, especially when 90% of the law that governed his case isn't law anymore.
Or, and this is one of the best, the female attorney who has to interject into every paragraph of her presentation the phrase, "old boy network." God she is awesome.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
glvsav37
Footballguy
Ok...stupid question...I've been tasked with developing a promotional video game for a client that is a very well known law service. This one particular service they are promoting is like a mad-libs for contracts and tasks. Basically, the lawyer would subscribe and have all these contracts at their fingertip, fill in a few pieces of information and generate contracts, Commercial law type stuff.
Question for you guys...what types of games do you like to play? We are thinking of targeting lawyers on their down time (train, before meetings, weekends, etc) and wrapping it into a promotion to preview the service. We want you to share it socially, so we don't want to target it to lawyers when they are supposed to be working.
Of you guys, what would peak your interests enough to play it?
Puzzle games (like blackout or scrabble type)?
strategy games?
Action games (like a Temple run)?
Legal Trivia-type?
we have ideas, just want to see where you guys interests would be.
Otis...your a corp lawyer, right? We are in Nassau county so if your local can we chat?
Question for you guys...what types of games do you like to play? We are thinking of targeting lawyers on their down time (train, before meetings, weekends, etc) and wrapping it into a promotion to preview the service. We want you to share it socially, so we don't want to target it to lawyers when they are supposed to be working.
Of you guys, what would peak your interests enough to play it?
Puzzle games (like blackout or scrabble type)?
strategy games?
Action games (like a Temple run)?
Legal Trivia-type?
we have ideas, just want to see where you guys interests would be.
Otis...your a corp lawyer, right? We are in Nassau county so if your local can we chat?
-fish-
Footballguy
weird lawyer in my upcoming trial just served his final witness list. I'm listed as a witness, along with the attorney that used to represent his clients but dropped them because they're crazy. he also listed 7 other people who hate his clients, whom he's never deposed.
he has refused to respond to phone calls or emails for the last 3 weeks. his secretary confirmed three or four times so far that he is in his office, but "can't take my call."
trial should be fun.
he has refused to respond to phone calls or emails for the last 3 weeks. his secretary confirmed three or four times so far that he is in his office, but "can't take my call."
trial should be fun.
-fish-
Footballguy
I would never do anything law-related in my downtime.
This sounds like an awful idea.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Seconded. Playing a "law trivia game" would fall somewhere below "passing a kidney stone the size of a bowling ball" on my list of fun gaming activities.
I don't know if his other ideas are just like LegalZoom branded CandyCrush or something, but I wouldn't do that either.
My suggestion would be to let me import my clients into The Sims and then let me torture them to death.
-fish-
Footballguy
Non-lawyer visitors: if you haven't read the other 90 pages of this thread, this is all you really need to know.
krista4
Footballguy
Thorn
Footballguy
My favorite is the guy who wears a suit and tie to an all-day CLE. Especially if it's on a Friday. Tool.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Time Entry: The game of trying to figure out what the hell you did two Thursdays ago.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
I actually had a course in law school that was pretty much nothing but playing board games. It was called "Changing the Rules" and was supposedly about how subtle changes to rules could have profound results on outcomes. It was really about me playing the professor in Twilight Struggle.
Anyway, for our grade we could either write a paper or participate in a group project. I wrote a paper (about introducing a bunch of European Soccer rules like Bosman free agency and promotion/relegation into MLB), but a bunch of the class did the class project where they created Litigation: The Game. It was soul-destroyingly boring, which should have given me heads--up about my future life choices.
Anyway, for our grade we could either write a paper or participate in a group project. I wrote a paper (about introducing a bunch of European Soccer rules like Bosman free agency and promotion/relegation into MLB), but a bunch of the class did the class project where they created Litigation: The Game. It was soul-destroyingly boring, which should have given me heads--up about my future life choices.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Let's not do this. It reminds me off all the hilarious people in law school who always made legal reference jokes.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Mortal Kombat style trial by combat game. With realistic lawyers instead of ninjas.
Called "Martial Law."
Called "Martial Law."
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Henry Ford
Footballguy
Pick your client and your lawyer. Larry the 53-year old 250-lb docket clerk has a finishing move of slamming your head in a file cabinet.
Also a decrease in all of your stats if your client is actually right.
Also a decrease in all of your stats if your client is actually right.
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Henry Ford
Footballguy
In other news standing here waiting for a certificate of mailing suuuuucks.
cosjobs
Footballguy
My father and I bought a house last January. It had flooded two years ago Halloween and was repaired/remodeled for probably about 120K and I bought it for 320K at the first of this year.
Last week the creek flooded again after a storm cell dumped 15" of rain in less than three hours. There was about 14" of water in the house, both cars were totaled a huge mess. I immediately hired a remediation company to come and cut away 4' of drywall, rip out all the cabinets , bathtubs, everything, so they could bring in the commercial dryer and stuff and take care of any potential mold/moisture/water related problems, so I could begin doing the rebuild on Monday.
I go to the city Friday to pull a permit and was denied. They told me there was a new city code in effect that stated that permits would not be issued to anyone whose home had accrued, over the previous 10 years, repairs costing more than 50% of the home's value. They told me they had determined the cost of my repair plus the repair two years ago would exceed that limit, so no permit for me.
This means I cannot repair my house. In short order, they won;t be letting me live here, since the first floor is currently unsafe and uninhabitable. I won't be able to sell it to anyone, because it now has no value, yet will continue to be taxed at about $6000 a year.
All I will get is a check from my flood insurance equal to the estimated repair cost, probably around 100k. I won't need to do the repairs since I can't get a permit, meaning I'll net out 75k (after paying for the remediation work already done). So my home, recently appraised for over $400K will get me $75K, I can't live, there, I can't sell it and I will be required to pay $6000 a year in taxes.
This code was not in effect when I bought the house or I was not informed of this.(Sue the realtor?) I would never purchased this house had I known of this onerous legacy it carried.
Its possible I can argue and crunch numbers and get the total repair cost in just under the 50% cap. But that means the least little flooding incident over the next 10 years and I'm back where I am now.
The area I live in had never flooded before two years ago Halloween.
The city has know watershed problems with Onion Creek, which is what backflowed into Slaughter Creek which runs behind (or in) my house.
10 years ago, the city approved massive commercial development a couple miles away which has caused huge runoff into Onion Creek and they have never correct downstream to handle the extra water runoff. We are in between Onion Creek and the huge development.
Advise?
Last week the creek flooded again after a storm cell dumped 15" of rain in less than three hours. There was about 14" of water in the house, both cars were totaled a huge mess. I immediately hired a remediation company to come and cut away 4' of drywall, rip out all the cabinets , bathtubs, everything, so they could bring in the commercial dryer and stuff and take care of any potential mold/moisture/water related problems, so I could begin doing the rebuild on Monday.
I go to the city Friday to pull a permit and was denied. They told me there was a new city code in effect that stated that permits would not be issued to anyone whose home had accrued, over the previous 10 years, repairs costing more than 50% of the home's value. They told me they had determined the cost of my repair plus the repair two years ago would exceed that limit, so no permit for me.
This means I cannot repair my house. In short order, they won;t be letting me live here, since the first floor is currently unsafe and uninhabitable. I won't be able to sell it to anyone, because it now has no value, yet will continue to be taxed at about $6000 a year.
All I will get is a check from my flood insurance equal to the estimated repair cost, probably around 100k. I won't need to do the repairs since I can't get a permit, meaning I'll net out 75k (after paying for the remediation work already done). So my home, recently appraised for over $400K will get me $75K, I can't live, there, I can't sell it and I will be required to pay $6000 a year in taxes.
This code was not in effect when I bought the house or I was not informed of this.(Sue the realtor?) I would never purchased this house had I known of this onerous legacy it carried.
Its possible I can argue and crunch numbers and get the total repair cost in just under the 50% cap. But that means the least little flooding incident over the next 10 years and I'm back where I am now.
The area I live in had never flooded before two years ago Halloween.
The city has know watershed problems with Onion Creek, which is what backflowed into Slaughter Creek which runs behind (or in) my house.
10 years ago, the city approved massive commercial development a couple miles away which has caused huge runoff into Onion Creek and they have never correct downstream to handle the extra water runoff. We are in between Onion Creek and the huge development.
Advise?
cosjobs
Footballguy
if we have a case against anyone (including the city), we have a dream team of plantiffs. My father is a 90 year old, blind veteran. We bought this place so he and mom could live out there life with us under our care. I had to pay 10000 to get them in a senior care place while doing the remodel. Now they can never return. The guy two doors down is in a wheelchair and the majority of other residents in this neighborhood are elderly.,
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
What state
Thorn
Footballguy
God I hated those people.
Thorn
Footballguy
Sounds like you need to get political. Who is your city counselor?
cosjobs
Footballguy
Ann Kinchen. I spoke with her policy advisor for an hour and a half Friday evening. Pretty sure they'll advocate.
Was doing some reserch and the city code is base on the FEMA 50% rule. However that rule is only for occurrences in a one year window, not 10 like Austin's code. Seems as though its predominately used in coastal area for owners wanting to do big remodels, even without any flooding. They're capped at 50% of value, but its only a year and its cumulative. So if they have a 100K house they can do a 50K upgrade, then enxt year its a 150K house so they cna do another 75K upgrade, etc.. This is what FEMA was trying to control which is completely different than what iI'm trying to do, yet mine is infinitely more restrictive. Also, flash floods are random event, whereas coastal flooding is a fact of life..
I've found nothing yet pertaining to this rule is flash flood areas, most everything I've read is about coastal cases in FLorida.
Evidently if city govts put really restrictive code in place, their area gets a big discount on the FEMA policies.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Apparently the ABA has declared that the first Friday in November is National Love Your Lawyer Day. Which it apparently doesn't realize is roughly the adult equivalent of bringing your mom to the prom.Christo said:WTF?
Ned Ryerson
Footballguy
Legal strategy question
Let's say for argument's sake your client had 100 times the legal resources of a prospective adversary. Based on the disparity in resources, you believe that if you suggest a certain legal approach, that the other side will likely just back down or just go away. That said, if the other side does not just back down or go away and decides to defend itself aggressively, you will almost certainly lose. The proposed cause of action is not entirely without merit (it would pass Rule 11 muster) but is not ultimately likely to be a successful cause of action.
There are other course of action available with lower ceilings but higher floors as well.
Let's say for argument's sake your client had 100 times the legal resources of a prospective adversary. Based on the disparity in resources, you believe that if you suggest a certain legal approach, that the other side will likely just back down or just go away. That said, if the other side does not just back down or go away and decides to defend itself aggressively, you will almost certainly lose. The proposed cause of action is not entirely without merit (it would pass Rule 11 muster) but is not ultimately likely to be a successful cause of action.
There are other course of action available with lower ceilings but higher floors as well.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Don't know a thing about Texas law. Except I'm pretty sure I read once that if you are found guilty they throw a brick at you.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
I'm going to cop out and say tell the client exaclty this and let them make the call and then cover yourself with a CYA letter after they make the call.
Thorn
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Also, would add to the conversation:
"You know this guy/company. Will he/it fold up and give up, or listen to his/its lawyer, who knows exactly what I know about our chances of winning?"
"You know this guy/company. Will he/it fold up and give up, or listen to his/its lawyer, who knows exactly what I know about our chances of winning?"
Zow
Footballguy
Frankly, a client who pays his attorney's fees and isn't a huge jerk off is giving me all the love I'm looking for.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Ned Ryerson
Footballguy
We don't know anything about "this guy/company" just that it seems he/it has little skin in the present game, and has given little consideration to the matter despite our efforts to reach out amicably.
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njherdfan
Footballguy
So I passed the Maryland Bar. Question for those who practice: are all State Bars economic cartels, or is Maryland's an anomaly? In addition to paying $600 to take the exam, I now have to pay $60 and miss a day of work for a mandatory professionalism class, despite passing the MPRE, and then I need to pay another $40 and miss another day of work to attend my swearing in. Is this the kind of thing I can expect for the foreseeable future?
njherdfan
Footballguy
To be fair, that's why I took the Maryland bar. When I saw the list of states that required the MPRE, I saw that only Maryland and 1 other state was missing, and I thought I was getting doubly lucky. Turns out that I was mistaken.
waiving into DC also requires that you attend a swearing in and a separate all day class, if you are planning on doing that.
NCCommish
Footballguy
I've said it before you guys would love me. Fees paid on time in cash and I actually do what I'm told.
the rover
Footballguy
This trial is going to be great. Guy thinks the judge is going to let him put on 14 witnesses, 7 of whom have exactly the same knowledge, over the course of 4 days. His damage claim is $8k and the only reason we aren't in mandatory arbitration is that he asked for dec relief. I estimated 5 hours for trial.
NCCommish
Footballguy
Henry Ford
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Zow
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