**The Official Randall 'touchdown robber' Cobber Bandwagon** (1 Viewer)

[TripItUp]

Cobb will get a few more targets, but GB will spread most of the excess targets and TD opportunities around so I don't think the offensive boost will be huge.

I do think this negates some of the concern about him regressing, though, so you could argue there's less risk in selecting him.

Slightly higher ceiling plus slightly higher floor = bump for me.

This is where I'm at...maybe 20 extra targets.

His 3rd round ADP is now justified, was slightly overvalued prior to the Jordy news.

 

[Sabertooth]

People forget that Cobb was coming off an all himself last season.

 

[Deamon]

People forget that Cobb was coming off an all himself last season.

huh?

 

[steelerfan1]

People forget that Cobb was coming off an all himself last season.

huh?

think he meant to say acl and got auto corrected.

 

[Deamon]

Maybe a few more targets but I don't think his short/intermediate/backfield role changes much. Adams and TE Rodgers (and Lacy) the real beneficiaries here.

Ya I agree 100 percent on this. But does he regress with the added coverage? Getting the top CB on him?

 

[Deamon]

People forget that Cobb was coming off an all himself last season.

huh?

think he meant to say acl and got auto corrected.

Ah ok that makes sense. What does that imply though about his forcast for this year?

 

[TheBottomLine]

People forget that Cobb was coming off an all himself last season.

huh?

think he meant to say acl and got auto corrected.

Well, if he meant to say ACL then he is wrong, so not sure what he meant. Cobb fractured his fibula, he didn't tear his ACL.

 

[dschuler]

I don't think Randall Cobb really benefits much. He was 91/1287/12 TDs last season. He might have more targets, but will also face tougher coverage as well. Davante Adams is the big winner here.

 

[Deamon]

I don't think Randall Cobb really benefits much. He was 91/1287/12 TDs last season. He might have more targets, but will also face tougher coverage as well. Davante Adams is the big winner here.

I think we are all aware that the boost won't be huge. And that it's clear DA and Lacy and TE Rodgers are the big winners. Just wondering what affect this has on him. Small bump or small drop off, or no change at all

 

[steelerfan1]

could cobb become similar to an antonio brown situation?

looking at surrounding cast of both has some comparisons.

 

[Deamon]

Hmmm interesting. The more I look at it the more I think he is going to step into that kind of role. Always overshadowed, and now I think he shows up this week with a bit of swagger in his step.

 

[EastonBlues22]

Maybe a few more targets but I don't think his short/intermediate/backfield role changes much. Adams and TE Rodgers (and Lacy) the real beneficiaries here.

Ya I agree 100 percent on this. But does he regress with the added coverage? Getting the top CB on him?

Top CBs rarely play the slot, and that's where Cobb will be spending most of his time in 3 wide sets. Other top CBs only play one side of the field, and that's easy enough to bypass in 2 wide sets. I don't think it affects Cobb's production all that much.

Not really worried about teams double-covering. Safeties have to respect whoever is running the deep routes. Cobb might get a few more of those, but he'll still likely be primarily used as a short and intermediate threat. It's not like he's going to be routinely fighting a CB and safety 40 yards down the field for jump balls.

 

[Deamon]

Maybe a few more targets but I don't think his short/intermediate/backfield role changes much. Adams and TE Rodgers (and Lacy) the real beneficiaries here.

Ya I agree 100 percent on this. But does he regress with the added coverage? Getting the top CB on him?

Top CBs rarely play the slot, and that's where Cobb will be spending most of his time in 3 wide sets. Other top CBs only play one side of the field, and that's easy enough to bypass in 2 wide sets. I don't think it affects Cobb's production all that much.

Not really worried about teams double-covering. Safeties have to respect whoever is running the deep routes. Cobb might get a few more of those, but he'll still likely be primarily used as a short and intermediate threat. It's not like he's going to be routinely fighting a CB and safety 40 yards down the field for jump balls.

Awesome, great point I never really thought of. I guess I kind of assumed Cobb would be booted from the slot without Jordy. In 3 W/O sets do you really think Janis is going to be playing on the outside and Adams on the other outside and Cobb in the middle??? Really curious to see what GB does with them.

So you think no real downside from the extra blanket coverage, and obvious bump from extra targets.

 

[TripItUp]

I have never liked Randall Cobb at his ADP, but if Jordy is out for the year I think Cobb is looking at a minimum of 20 additional targets. I think that would more than counter the negatives that additional coverage may add.

Conservatively I see a slight uptick, which makes his 3rd round ADP about right. I had him as overvalued prior to the Jordy injury.

 

[Deamon]

I have never liked Randall Cobb at his ADP, but if Jordy is out for the year I think Cobb is looking at a minimum of 20 additional targets. I think that would more than counter the negatives that additional coverage may add.

Conservatively I see a slight uptick, which makes his 3rd round ADP about right. I had him as overvalued prior to the Jordy injury.

how bout in ppr

 

[steelerfan1]

I'm still waiting for SWC to weigh in for my final eval.

 

[TripItUp]

I have never liked Randall Cobb at his ADP, but if Jordy is out for the year I think Cobb is looking at a minimum of 20 additional targets. I think that would more than counter the negatives that additional coverage may add.

Conservatively I see a slight uptick, which makes his 3rd round ADP about right. I had him as overvalued prior to the Jordy injury.

how bout in ppr

I like him more in PPR.

 

[Mene]

could cobb become similar to an antonio brown situation?

looking at surrounding cast of both has some comparisons.

That is exactly the comparison I made last night in a debate about this topic. Brown and Cobb are roughly the same size, same speed, and similar styles. With the way Cobb moves around the formation, works the middle of the field, and gets a lot of slot corner coverage, I could see a scenario where he gets an additional 30 targets, and puts up a 110/115rec, 1350/1400yd, 9-10td line, which would be huge in PPR.

 

[Faust]

Randall Cobb says role won't change much with Jordy Nelson out:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13511947/green-bay-packers-randall-cobb-says-no-need-press-jordy-nelson-out

 

[Larry Buckles]

Just went out with a shoulder injury. Not sure how bad

 

[Righetti]

Saw speculation that it was a separated shoulder...nothing confirmed

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

Saw speculation that it was a separated shoulder...nothing confirmed

Speaking as a sports PT, it's one of two things. Should separation, of which there are 3 degrees of severity, or fractured clavicle.

 

[flapgreen]

Not watching game but you could see if it was bad if he was holding tight most likely

 

[Da Gildz]

Face into palm.

 

[sho nuff]

Saw speculation that it was a separated shoulder...nothing confirmed

Speaking as a sports PT, it's one of two things. Should separation, of which there are 3 degrees of severity, or fractured clavicle.

Often make diagnosis by a bad angled replay (if you even saw it) and not examining someone at all?

Always laugh at these diagnosis by people on here...no matter what your background is.

 

[Billy Bats]

Rappaport: Still awaiting word on the severity of #Packers WR Randall Cobbs shoulder injury. Among the worries, broken collarbone is not one of them.

9:27pm - 29 Aug 15

 

[trader jake]

Saw speculation that it was a separated shoulder...nothing confirmed

Speaking as a sports PT, it's one of two things. Should separation, of which there are 3 degrees of severity, or fractured clavicle.

Often make diagnosis by a bad angled replay (if you even saw it) and not examining someone at all?

Always laugh at these diagnosis by people on here...no matter what your background is.

Easy...it's not rocket science good buddy. Certain types of falls/twists/hits and the resulting reactions make an immediate range of injury options fairly obvious to even non-skilled observers.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

Saw speculation that it was a separated shoulder...nothing confirmed

Speaking as a sports PT, it's one of two things. Should separation, of which there are 3 degrees of severity, or fractured clavicle.

Often make diagnosis by a bad angled replay (if you even saw it) and not examining someone at all?

Always laugh at these diagnosis by people on here...no matter what your background is.

Typical mechanism of injury. Fall onto shoulder with the force of another player on top. I'm surprised at people who dismiss expert opinion with absolutely no background in medicine.

 

[trader jake]

Rappaport: Still awaiting word on the severity of #Packers WR Randall Cobbs shoulder injury. Among the worries, broken collarbone is not one of them.

9:27pm - 29 Aug 15

Okay, worst case eliminated. Well, as much as one can "eliminate" anything at this point.

 

[flapgreen]

Saw speculation that it was a separated shoulder...nothing confirmed

Speaking as a sports PT, it's one of two things. Should separation, of which there are 3 degrees of severity, or fractured clavicle.

Often make diagnosis by a bad angled replay (if you even saw it) and not examining someone at all?

Always laugh at these diagnosis by people on here...no matter what your background is.

Typical mechanism of injury. Fall onto shoulder with the force of another player on top. I'm surprised at people who dismiss expert opinion with absolutely no background in medicine.

I'm not opposed to it myself.

 

[sho nuff]

Saw speculation that it was a separated shoulder...nothing confirmed

Speaking as a sports PT, it's one of two things. Should separation, of which there are 3 degrees of severity, or fractured clavicle.

Often make diagnosis by a bad angled replay (if you even saw it) and not examining someone at all?

Always laugh at these diagnosis by people on here...no matter what your background is.

Typical mechanism of injury. Fall onto shoulder with the force of another player on top. I'm surprised at people who dismiss expert opinion with absolutely no background in medicine.

I'm surprised by people who offer medical opinions based only on short clip of a guy going to the ground.

I get what it looks like... Its just funny to me.

 

[flapgreen]

Didn't see the play myself so can't really say

 

[trader jake]

Didn't see the play myself so can't really say

You would think, "Hey, that looks like a shoulder injury!" Maybe even, "Or an A/C sprain or clavicle break."

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

Saw speculation that it was a separated shoulder...nothing confirmed

Speaking as a sports PT, it's one of two things. Should separation, of which there are 3 degrees of severity, or fractured clavicle.

Often make diagnosis by a bad angled replay (if you even saw it) and not examining someone at all?

Always laugh at these diagnosis by people on here...no matter what your background is.

Typical mechanism of injury. Fall onto shoulder with the force of another player on top. I'm surprised at people who dismiss expert opinion with absolutely no background in medicine.

I'm surprised by people who offer medical opinions based only on short clip of a guy going to the ground.I get what it looks like... Its just funny to me.

Mechanism of injury is one of the key pieces of an evaluation. How dare this expert speculate based on replays!:

Dr. Mark Adickes ‏@jocktodoc 28m28 minutes ago

.@packers WR Randall Cobb taken to locker room with injury. Best Case: mild A/C sprain. Worst Case: Shoulder dislocation/clavicle fracture.

 

[flapgreen]

Saw it now. He walked off the field with his arms hanging. Would be tough to do that with a high grade sprain or clavicle fx

 

[flapgreen]

Saw speculation that it was a separated shoulder...nothing confirmed

Speaking as a sports PT, it's one of two things. Should separation, of which there are 3 degrees of severity, or fractured clavicle.

Often make diagnosis by a bad angled replay (if you even saw it) and not examining someone at all?

Always laugh at these diagnosis by people on here...no matter what your background is.

Typical mechanism of injury. Fall onto shoulder with the force of another player on top. I'm surprised at people who dismiss expert opinion with absolutely no background in medicine.

I'm surprised by people who offer medical opinions based only on short clip of a guy going to the ground.I get what it looks like... Its just funny to me.

Mechanism of injury is one of the key pieces of an evaluation. How dare this expert speculate based on replays!r. Mark Adickes ‏@jocktodoc 28m28 minutes ago

.@packers WR Randall Cobb taken to locker room with injury. Best Case: mild A/C sprain. Worst Case: Shoulder dislocation/clavicle fracture.

Maybe I saw it wrong but I thought Cobb walking to the locker room like normal. Again, that would be really tough with a clavicle fx. Shoulder dislocation even harder. Not saying impossible but he would have to be one tough dude

 

[Phenomena]

Saw speculation that it was a separated shoulder...nothing confirmed

Speaking as a sports PT, it's one of two things. Should separation, of which there are 3 degrees of severity, or fractured clavicle.

Often make diagnosis by a bad angled replay (if you even saw it) and not examining someone at all?

Always laugh at these diagnosis by people on here...no matter what your background is.

Typical mechanism of injury. Fall onto shoulder with the force of another player on top. I'm surprised at people who dismiss expert opinion with absolutely no background in medicine.

I'm surprised by people who offer medical opinions based only on short clip of a guy going to the ground.I get what it looks like... Its just funny to me.

Mechanism of injury is one of the key pieces of an evaluation. How dare this expert speculate based on replays!:

Dr. Mark Adickes ‏@jocktodoc 28m28 minutes ago

.@packers WR Randall Cobb taken to locker room with injury. Best Case: mild A/C sprain. Worst Case: Shoulder dislocation/clavicle fracture.

Either of these are 8-12 week timelines to heal full. Put him on IR/return, get to the playoffs, and the Packers are in business.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

Saw speculation that it was a separated shoulder...nothing confirmed

Speaking as a sports PT, it's one of two things. Should separation, of which there are 3 degrees of severity, or fractured clavicle.

Often make diagnosis by a bad angled replay (if you even saw it) and not examining someone at all?

Always laugh at these diagnosis by people on here...no matter what your background is.

Typical mechanism of injury. Fall onto shoulder with the force of another player on top. I'm surprised at people who dismiss expert opinion with absolutely no background in medicine.

I'm surprised by people who offer medical opinions based only on short clip of a guy going to the ground.I get what it looks like... Its just funny to me.

Mechanism of injury is one of the key pieces of an evaluation. How dare this expert speculate based on replays!r. Mark Adickes ‏@jocktodoc 28m28 minutes ago

.@packers WR Randall Cobb taken to locker room with injury. Best Case: mild A/C sprain. Worst Case: Shoulder dislocation/clavicle fracture.

Either of these are 8-12 week timelines to heal full. Put him on IR/return, get to the playoffs, and the Packers are in business.

A grade 1 AC sprain would have him back in 2-4 weeks.

 

[sho nuff]

Saw speculation that it was a separated shoulder...nothing confirmed

Speaking as a sports PT, it's one of two things. Should separation, of which there are 3 degrees of severity, or fractured clavicle.

Often make diagnosis by a bad angled replay (if you even saw it) and not examining someone at all?

Always laugh at these diagnosis by people on here...no matter what your background is.

Typical mechanism of injury. Fall onto shoulder with the force of another player on top. I'm surprised at people who dismiss expert opinion with absolutely no background in medicine.

I'm surprised by people who offer medical opinions based only on short clip of a guy going to the ground.I get what it looks like... Its just funny to me.

Mechanism of injury is one of the key pieces of an evaluation. How dare this expert speculate based on replays!r. Mark Adickes ‏@jocktodoc 28m28 minutes ago

.@packers WR Randall Cobb taken to locker room with injury. Best Case: mild A/C sprain. Worst Case: Shoulder dislocation/clavicle fracture.

Did he claim it was the only two possibilities?

Anyway...have fun speculating.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

Saw speculation that it was a separated shoulder...nothing confirmed

Speaking as a sports PT, it's one of two things. Should separation, of which there are 3 degrees of severity, or fractured clavicle.

Often make diagnosis by a bad angled replay (if you even saw it) and not examining someone at all?

Always laugh at these diagnosis by people on here...no matter what your background is.

Typical mechanism of injury. Fall onto shoulder with the force of another player on top. I'm surprised at people who dismiss expert opinion with absolutely no background in medicine.

I'm surprised by people who offer medical opinions based only on short clip of a guy going to the ground.I get what it looks like... Its just funny to me.

Mechanism of injury is one of the key pieces of an evaluation. How dare this expert speculate based on replays!r. Mark Adickes ‏@jocktodoc 28m28 minutes ago

.@packers WR Randall Cobb taken to locker room with injury. Best Case: mild A/C sprain. Worst Case: Shoulder dislocation/clavicle fracture.

Did he claim it was the only two possibilities?Anyway...have fun speculating.

Don't be a ghost when it comes back AC separation. See you when it is announced.

 

[flapgreen]

I say he'll be back by the first game

 

[zeeshan2]

@WillReeveJr

BREAKING: Randall Cobb does NOT have a broken bone. Still being evaluated and will have soft tissue looked at tomorrow via MRI. #Packers.

8:30pm - 29 Aug 15

 

[flapgreen]

Saw speculation that it was a separated shoulder...nothing confirmed

Speaking as a sports PT, it's one of two things. Should separation, of which there are 3 degrees of severity, or fractured clavicle.

Often make diagnosis by a bad angled replay (if you even saw it) and not examining someone at all?

Always laugh at these diagnosis by people on here...no matter what your background is.

Typical mechanism of injury. Fall onto shoulder with the force of another player on top. I'm surprised at people who dismiss expert opinion with absolutely no background in medicine.

I'm surprised by people who offer medical opinions based only on short clip of a guy going to the ground.I get what it looks like... Its just funny to me.

Mechanism of injury is one of the key pieces of an evaluation. How dare this expert speculate based on replays!r. Mark Adickes ‏@jocktodoc 28m28 minutes ago

.@packers WR Randall Cobb taken to locker room with injury. Best Case: mild A/C sprain. Worst Case: Shoulder dislocation/clavicle fracture.

Either of these are 8-12 week timelines to heal full. Put him on IR/return, get to the playoffs, and the Packers are in business.

A grade 1 AC sprain would have him back in 2-4 weeks.

Grade 1 would be my best guess.

 

[Foxer2373]

Well do I Cry for my draft I have Rodgers and no decent back up or do I cheer for my draft that has Lacy ppr

Ok no speculation but what would the packers look like with no Cobb and no Nelson?

 

[towney]

Ty Motgomery or Jeff Janis next one up?

 

[sho nuff]

Saw speculation that it was a separated shoulder...nothing confirmed

Speaking as a sports PT, it's one of two things. Should separation, of which there are 3 degrees of severity, or fractured clavicle.

Often make diagnosis by a bad angled replay (if you even saw it) and not examining someone at all?

Always laugh at these diagnosis by people on here...no matter what your background is.

Typical mechanism of injury. Fall onto shoulder with the force of another player on top. I'm surprised at people who dismiss expert opinion with absolutely no background in medicine.

I'm surprised by people who offer medical opinions based only on short clip of a guy going to the ground.I get what it looks like... Its just funny to me.

Mechanism of injury is one of the key pieces of an evaluation. How dare this expert speculate based on replays!r. Mark Adickes ‏@jocktodoc 28m28 minutes ago

.@packers WR Randall Cobb taken to locker room with injury. Best Case: mild A/C sprain. Worst Case: Shoulder dislocation/clavicle fracture.

Did he claim it was the only two possibilities?Anyway...have fun speculating.

Don't be a ghost when it comes back AC separation. See you when it is announced.

It may very well be ...the point is...never mind, you dint get it.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Clavicle fracture imo

 

[The Kerminator]

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 5m5 minutes ago

Randall Cobb is on the sideline, standing next to Aaron Rodgers wearing a green #Packers hoodie. Hands in front pouch of sweatshirt.

Not sure what this means in terms of his injury

 

[The Kerminator]

Clavicle fracture imo

Too bad for you that x-rays already ruled out a broken bone per Packers

 

[flapgreen]

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 5m5 minutes ago

Randall Cobb is on the sideline, standing next to Aaron Rodgers wearing a green #Packers hoodie. Hands in front pouch of sweatshirt.

Not sure what this means in terms of his injury

Means it isn't bad